#Iron Blood fleet questions

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real linden
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test

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so I switched my formations around again because I have to do main first AVP. Just wondering if I should switch the formations up a little bit or not. FDG is only 15 or 16 I think.

toxic basin
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avp doesnt need vanguard exp

real linden
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I said main line right now and not vanguard. That is why I need advice for IB main line.

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Actually sorry typo for main. I fixed the typo

toxic basin
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you shove all three ib main fleet ships onto mob and run 12-4

real linden
real linden
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I do not think I can run 12-4 atm. I not only need more oil. But some of my ships are not high enough level for that yet. I can probably only do 10-1 until they are higher level

toxic basin
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is 12-1/4 on safe?

real linden
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yes, but even with semi decent gear, I’m pretty confident with the level that those ships are at. I can’t do that one just yet. Pretty sure some of those ships need to be a little bit higher level first. Plus I haven’t max limit breaked Bismark yet. Sooooooo…….

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@dense hornet

toxic basin
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you can definitely do 12-4 then
it doesnt take a whole lot

real linden
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well again right now I’m not worried about the node to grind since I need to save my oil back up again. I mainly questioned about which main line ships to put in Fleet one in fleet two and if I need to put them in a certain position. I will worry about the gear and grinding out the XP later.

toxic basin
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it doesnt really matter who you use

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for position, throw tankiest ship on flag

real linden
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well, since my iron blood ships are still working progress, I don’t even know who that would be. again, I’m gonna mess with gear later

toxic basin
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YorkBruh then just use bismarck, tirpitz, fdg
throw a few exp books on fdg

real linden
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I will when I get them back where they need to be. Don’t have a lot of them right now.

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@oak nest do you have any advice on which main line IB ships to put where?

dense hornet
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Unicorn for heal is you need it. Maybe put some carriers in your main fleet if ships are dying and it’s due to air superiority.

real linden
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I mean, FDG is not at Max research rank yet and she still under 100 level wise.

toxic basin
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i mean, how many books do you have that youre saying that you need to "get them back"

real linden
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I’ll just put it this way. It’s bad enough.

dense hornet
real linden
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that’s why I’m trying to figure out what ships to use and where.

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don’t worry about the rest of it later. If I need to move some ships around, that’s perfectly fine with me.

dense hornet
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@real linden surviving with 2/3 iron blood in main line is better than not surviving with 3/3 in main line.

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It’s just 1/3 slower. Maybe less since unicorn carries so hard, it’s pretty fast.

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In the end, this is not hard to figure out, why are you so tentative and want so much advice to do something so straightforward? @real linden

real linden
toxic basin
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i mean, we're already making it pretty simple by telling you what to use
only thing you really have to do is throw on some decent gear and auto-run 12-4 or something and see how it goes

real linden
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How about something like this?

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shell hemlock
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it is better to run 3 carriers in your 2nd fleet (the boss fleet) so that u hit the ACV requirement for the map and get less plane damage. your vanguards are strong enough that they will carry this. the extra xp u get from running gneisenau is probably not worth tbh so just stick 3x carriers there and it should clear

dense hornet
real linden
real linden
shell hemlock
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yep that should be fine. u can check if u meet the ACV req before u start the sortie but even being on Air Superiority is good enough. u can get more ACV by putting in CV with more fighter slots.

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if u want to min max more u could replace unicorn and z23 with ships that need xp and not level 125 but honestly "losing" the boss fleet xp doesnt matter that much

real linden
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ACV?

dense hornet
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Airspace control value

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I think it’s basically total avi

shell hemlock
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it is AVI + plane slots.
but u also need less if u have good AA. basically if this is green u are good to go

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real linden
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Actually, I took the one character out on fleet too because I didn’t realize they were still there

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shell hemlock
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u are back on 1 BB 2 CV which might hurt the ACV. just do a few runs. your ships look like they clear ch12 easily on safe

real linden
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Oh wait a minute I didn’t see that give me a moment

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fixed it.

real linden
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Not sure if you have any advice, but this is what year I put on my two fleets using the website. I also will show pictures of what gear is not equipped. That’s left over.

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I didn’t include elite or lower gear in those last two pictures cause I didn’t feel it was necessary

toxic basin
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its very necessary
second best HE shelling main gun for bb is purple

shell hemlock
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Gear is very decent.
Few changes I would suggest:

1- that fdg gun is trash. Use sth else on her. Check the ectl website but if not u can use champy gun (triple 406/50 MLE) or just same gun as your other BB triple 406 purple. Warspite’s gun also only good vs medium armor so not rly recommended to be used generally.

2-The backline doesnt rly need fire extinguishers. You only ever use that in ch 10-11 but for 12 not needed.

3- your aa guns are very decent. I remember someone telling me to just run triple roomba in ch12. Sth about the planes coming in waves and not needing fast aa. If it is working then it is fine dont swap it.

4- you almost never want to use rocket fighters in campaign (the ones on enty). Since they have no interception. Use normal fighters with 500-1000 lb bombs. Hellcat/flapjack/tigercat/seafang

5- the saiun kai and ryuusei on intrepid and enty are also going to be hit or miss. In campaign most ppl just use parallel torps bombers. So barracuda or wyvern if u have one

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One last thing. I noticed a bunch of +11 gear. Gold plates are really scarce in this game so dont go upgrading stuff u are not sure about. Check the plus13 command or ask in gph which gear to upgrade. And always +13 sth fully instead of splitting it between gear

real linden
real linden
shell hemlock
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Oh sorry I thought it was clear enough.

For FdG I would use sth like u have on bismarck main slot (purple main gun)

For the aux slots on all backline double shells. (Black and white form core shop) or shell + radar (https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/High_Performance_Fire_Control_Radar). If you dont have em that is fine for now

For fighters I gave a bunch of options (u have seafang in depot)

For torp bombers on everyone use barracuda (u have 3 in your depot)

U can also use the rainbow CL gun on any CL you use. In your case montpelier can use it

real linden
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sth?

shell hemlock
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Something. I mean the same gun

real linden
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barracuda was ranked lower than what I have on the website or at least it was lower on the list. I am not sure if that meant it was lower ranked or not. Also what gear you see is what I have. I do not have the resources to buy some of the other gear yet

shell hemlock
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The website ranks stuff on general usage. Ryuusei and saiun kai are great planes but u dont have a setup to slow the enemies so they tend to miss. U can use them if u want but pay attention and see. If they miss the torps swap to barracuda.

real linden
real linden
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is this what you were referring to? I made these changes based on what you typed.

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shell hemlock
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Hey sry had to go. Yes looks perfect now but put that aa gun on FDG on any vanguard and put a STAAG or hazemeyer on her if u have.

real linden
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sorry, but you have to be a little more specific. Especially with the acronyms. I only know what FDG stands for. I’m not sure what the other acronym stands for.

shell hemlock
dense hornet
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and these AA guns are good for Battle Ships because it adds hit and has decent AA:}

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top is better than the bottom

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hazemeyer

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staags are a common drop from research projects. Hazemeyer's can be upgraded into staags in gear lab, but probably not worth it, just wait for them in research

real linden
real linden
dense hornet
real linden
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like I said what you saw is what I got. I don’t have anything further. On another note, what is the best piece or pieces of gear to start saving up for crafting in the gear lab at this point? Since there are so many pieces of gear, I’m not really sure which direction to go and which ones to save for.

shell hemlock
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the best one that will make the most difference is wyvern

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all of these are decent to make. which one u do first depends on what u have. also check what materials they use. for example both flapjack and wyvern use electronics but wyvern is a great upgrade on barracuda but flapjack is only slightly better than what u currently have

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so better to save for wyvern

real linden
real linden
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also, not sure which one of you suggested to put all carriers for now on the boss fleet. but whoever suggested it I still had Warspite on there. I just changed it, but I gotta fix the gear now.

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shell hemlock
real linden
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Also, Roomba! 😂😂🤣🤣

shell hemlock
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since u have laffey 2 there i wouldnt worry too much. what u have so far is fine. if u wanted to u can run 3x roomba on all of them in ch12. and we call it roomba cuz it looks like a roomba EntyHeh

real linden
shell hemlock
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on both really. mob and boss.

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but if u want to prioritize u can put on mob since your boss fleet is usually stronger

real linden
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well, I don’t know how many of them I have most of what I have for Vanguard units is that Boffors

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Give me just a moment

shell hemlock
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if u have this u can use it instead of the bofor since it is basically an upgrade

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but roomba still better at least in ch12 i think

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AA is rly complicated xD sry if it is confusing

real linden
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so when I have is when I got like I said. this is how far away I am from crafting certain SSR gear or gold gear.

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real linden
shell hemlock
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then it is okay. keep it like this for now.

real linden
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The rainbow or UR ships are probably 10 times worse in terms of being able to craft any of them

shell hemlock
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that is fine. the UR aa gun is really not needed before ch15. it is good but rly expensive and not a priority

real linden
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not sure what that emoji means.

shell hemlock
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lol... just a headpat. means nothing dw about it

real linden
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I 👀

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and I’m not gonna be playing anyway for a little bit while I wait for my oil to get back to at least 10K or higher

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I may or may not finish up operation siren within the next week or so, but we’ll see

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May be changing subject, but what are you guys think of this? I thought this was pretty funny. Since there’s no memes channel in the server.

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shell hemlock
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tbh i dont think memes/discussion are allowed much in gph even in threads. but there is #off-topic and #al-general (if related to azur lane). I am sure a lot of ppl meme in those channel but i dont frequent them much myself

real linden
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I 👀

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I will say that one is pretty clean and still pretty funny though. At least in my opinion.

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The last 2 emojis people have used I still don’t understand what they mean.

real linden
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by the way, is it worth it to ever spend these blueprints or just to keep saving them up for a while? I’ve had them in here for so long and I’m not sure the best way to use them. I mean for right now I’m just letting them sit there.

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FDG is currently at this point.

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I do have her set though as my catch-up ship in research focus.

toxic basin
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honestly would just use them

shell hemlock
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If u want to min max protocore u could coin FdG and then analyze these for protocore.
U could also just use them it is fine.
But only use for same series.
Dont use the general series 4 on series 2 ships.

real linden
shell hemlock
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but basically. u can coin FdG daily. buy 10 dev levels for 7200 gold. after she gets to Dev30 u can convert those general BP to FdG BP and then analyze them for 600 protocore

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u then use the protocore to buy UR gear from the protoshop

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u cant analyze them before she is Dev30

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u can do sth similar with catchup but u need to get the catchup after she is dev30. any BP u get now u cant analyze. i personally used her catchup on her not for protocore. but u can do that with azuma catchup later and the PR1-3 catchup

real linden
shell hemlock
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yes u are right. u cant analze them directly. but u can convert them to any ship from that series. so for example u can convert these to FdG prints. then if FdG is dev30 u can analyze them. if she is not dev30 u cant analyze and u have to use them on her

real linden
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Btw not sure if I asked. What IB ship should I work on next after AvP?

shell hemlock
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Agir is good.
It doesnt have to be IB.
Prioritize getting all the pr4 ships

real linden
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The Sakura Empire one I do not have enough tech points for

real linden
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that is where I’m at with Sakura Empire. Not sure what I can even do to get the amount of tech points. I need to start working on that character. I’m not sure what the best option will be. The only other character after AvP that I can work on is Marco Polo for PR 4.

real linden
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@shell hemlock

shell hemlock
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If u have FdG and most of Pr4 it really doesnt matter. Get whoever u want or have the tech points for. If u can work on marco do it since u want her ready to be coined after u finish coining AvP.