Hi
#Shipbuilding
placid plover
twilit ledge
Heya
placid plover
Let me screenshot my fleets
twilit ledge
What content is this for: OpSi, META or campaign?
placid plover
OpSi and Campaign ig
weak sky
what specific part of campaign
placid plover
?
twilit ledge
What chapter are you on?
weak sky
what part of campaign are you stuck on? W13? 10? 15?
placid plover
Last stage I cleared was 12-1
I'm not necessarily stuck but I'm wondering if I need to change ships or something, and if the ships I like can clear what I want
I know I can't really ask for 'general' stuff but the roster of 'ready to use' ships isn't that large
twilit ledge
Sounds good. If possible, sort your dock into Main Fleet and Vanguard, it makes it a little easier to fleet build
twilit ledge
Screenshots are always preferred to a video, it's easier to refer back to them
placid plover
One sec
Sorry I was being called
And these are my fleets
So I want to be able to use different ships, one reason being when I'm farming and some ships are low on morale, another just being the fact that I want to use ships I like
In OpSi I don't have to worry about morale or oil, but campaign gives more exp
And I have to keep going eventually
Like I got Huan Ch'ang and Chi An cause I liked their design, same with Carl
And the Tacos
twilit ledge
I'd replace Zara with Portland and throw another DPS in there, but other than that your fleets are fine. That said, swapping Soyuz and Nelson would probably be a better idea, and for chapter 12 and 13 in particular you can use 3 carriers in your mob fleet.
high lily
You don't even have two core fleets yet
placid plover
I don't know what makes up a core fleet though
Oh yeah Fleet 3 is just placeholders
Well not really placeholders, I was editing the 3rd fleet for farming
placid plover
What do you mean by that?
random frost
you can replace constellation with saratoga and let enty fill in the saratoga on boss, esp cause ch12 n 13 needs carrier
placid plover
Should I make Constellation the flagship of F2?
twilit ledge
Like your Guam is done but Laffii isn't
What are you talking about? Both Laffey are MLB
high lily
Maxing your ships makes them strong. You have two maxed ships
high lily
What are you talking about? Both Laffey are MLB
And Laffi is 117 and they want to swap her out already
placid plover
When did I say that?
twilit ledge
Yeah, you're making a lot of assumptions here with no basis. The entire point of this thread is for Daniel to know who to focus on
high lily
So I want to be able to use different ships
I want to use ships I like
placid plover
Yeah but it's not like I'm gonna delete the other fleets 
twilit ledge
high lily
Swap boss and mob around then. Boss fleets use very little morale.
twilit ledge
Since Guam is 125 I'd stick her in your boss fleet; no need to keep her in mob, which is where you get the majority of your XP. Portland can tank for mob
placid plover
Can Anchorage take that place when I level up her skills more?
twilit ledge
Sure, she's quite a bit tankier than Portland anyway.
high lily
Anything can farm 12-1
placid plover
Yeah that's how I got Bremerton and Carl up so high in just 2 days
random frost
not rly when lethal and no gear
twilit ledge
Anchorage, Tai Yuan, Friedrich Carl, Enterprise, Independence, and Impero are probably the strongest ships you have at lower levels
random frost
come on saying anything doesn't help since lvl 1 mutsuki with no gear is classified as "anything"
high lily
Like the gear on a L1 ship matters
placid plover
Anchorage, Tai Yuan, Friedrich Carl, Enterprise, Independence, and Impero are pr...
Yeah I wanted to work on Impero but I had to use my SSR Bulins on some others, but I think I can use them on her now
I got 4 so just enough
I know I won't be using Huan, Atago, or Takao anytime soon, unfortunately for me lol
high lily
I don't see what impero does for you. If you have two core fleets then ships to raise are either for combat data or fleet tech.
placid plover
Or just for the sake of, yknow, using ships I like
I can have my core fleets and waifus too
high lily
Then just use them.
placid plover
I plan to, but I wanna know how to make teams out of them efficiently, which I know is possible
high lily
If you want to be efficient you combine progression with combat data with fleet tech
placid plover
By combat data you mean the "Accumulate (x) EXP with (y) faction ship" missions, right?
high lily
You need 3 vanguards and at least 1 bb and 1 cv
So fdg, Haku, plymouth, agir, hmm shimanto?
Plymouth and shimanto aren't likely to be usable soon although you could probably unlock plymouth
placid plover
512/900 tech points for Plymouth
And also my current development is on Kearsarge, which I just started today
high lily
Ok so 120 perseus is a goal
high lily
Hood and Nelson also
placid plover
I kinda neglected Hood in favor of Constellation, Nelson, and more recently Soyuz
She doesn't have enough exp for 105 but I can put her and Perseus in the fleet the next time I grind 12-1
Along with Anchorage, Enty, and Bremerton or Carl
I've been grinding with those last two since I completed 12-1
Hence their levels
high lily
Well you can't unlock kearsarge and get hms backline tech at the same time. So if eagle main then try to find hms vanguards to raise. Like Sirius and Nubian
Cheshire...
I would probably try to get away with a enty, sara, indy main on 12-1. If it can't survive then replace indy with perseus
high lily
Independence. You're working on kearsarge right?
high lily
Isn't that Indianapolis?
Relevant indy and irrelevant indy 
high lily
You really want to avoid using capped ships when farming. Especially when there is an excellent alternative to unicorn in perseus.
placid plover
Noted
high lily
Soyuz you need to decide between making your core fleet better or getting an admittedly useless kearsarge faster.
weak sky
Kear wont be useful if she isnt D30
Pretty much every PR/DR Backliner is required to be at D30 to properly function
placid plover
Then should I just put my research focus to PR6?
I have more BP for Kearsarge than Plymouth rn
Well I guess Agir has more BP than both
placid plover
Why all of them though
weak sky
PR4 is overall the most cracked season
Agir and Ancho are some of the tankiest vanguards in the game
AvP has her freeze utility
Hakuryuu has beeg damage
And Marco is good too but her value is pretty diminished by FdG and the other UR/DR BBs
PR4 is also the season that drops Tenrai, the best overall DB
weak sky
You can exclude her if you want, but getting her maxed out will make getting prints for Agir and Haku easier (because when a ship reaches D30 (or FS5 if applicable), their face research is removed from the selection)
high lily
You don't need MP
I usually don't manage to finish 3rd PR before 2nd DR but of course S4 is an old season with PR coining
high lily
Why all of them though
Because it's very difficult to finish even 1 DR without finishing nearly everyone
Also sometimes rng will simply screw you. I tried to finish kearsarge first but game force so many hindy research on me she was late by 2 weeks
placid plover
This is what I got now, before you said the triple cv main
They're still unchanged here
So for all of ch 12 I should have a triple CV main boss fleet?
Or mob
Or was that specifically for 12-1
high lily
Is getting kearsarge the most important thing for you?
placid plover
Well I mean, I don't even have enough tech points for anyone else in PR4
I kinda just hyperfocused on Anchorage and neglected the other factions
It's more like I want Kearsarge because waifu reasons but she's not the most important, just the only one I can really work on
high lily
Ok you can unlock anyone you want. Order doesn't really matter because in the end you can get everyone. But keep your research focus on 4.
The fleet looks a bit weak but could be fine simply because they're some of the most op ships in the game. Bremerton isn't useful though but if waifu whatever
placid plover
Why isn't she useful?
high lily
Comparatively Bad would be the simple explanation?
placid plover
Well then I mean I guess I could put Carl instead to work on getting her lvl 120 for tech points
high lily
Carl is ok. The meta choice would be helena
placid plover
So should I use that fleet to continue W12 or keep grinding 12-1
high lily
Bbl
placid plover
Damn the main fleet died
high lily
Yeah too weak. Use sara instead of indy
high lily
So should I use that fleet to continue W12 or keep grinding 12-1
So if morale concerns you then 12-4 is better. Same morale used, more everything else
But you can't push with bad farming ships
placid plover
Do I have to use 3 CVs though?
Enty is the one that died
Indy is higher lvl than Enty
high lily
Indy had less hp etc etc. Enty is going to be more tanky but that's not the issue. You simply don't do enough damage with those ships. Sara does damage. You may need to get rid of a vanguard also
placid plover
I'm gonna try again with Sara, Indy, and Perseus, with Sara as flag since she has 2k more HP than Enty
Idk about the vanguard though
high lily
Just use unicorn then. Or use xp books. Or is your gear even good and +10
placid plover
What's that website where you can see your fleets and their equipped gear
high lily
high lily
I'm gonna try again with Sara, Indy, and Perseus, with Sara as flag since she ha...
sara also has 2.5k more hp than indy
high lily
yeah that's really bad
high lily
show all
placid plover
high lily
do you even have coins and parts to +10 planes?
high lily
imo you're not in a position to use so many bad ships yet
placid plover
I got 528 purple and 681 blue
abstract tundra
Lvl shitters requires good gear
placid plover
5 carriers? Wdym
placid plover
Oh
high lily
strip unicorn
placid plover
high lily
either you use her or you don't. you can't afford to gear 3 fleets. when you want to use unicorn you need to swap gear between perseus and unicorn
placid plover
Unicorn's gear
high lily
taihou also...to make your life easy you can make her enterprises swap partner
placid plover
So put Hood on F3?
high lily
i only know old fleets. what's current fleets
placid plover
Taihou is with Hood and Nelson in F2
high lily
taihou, unicorn, hood
placid plover
high lily
wait why did you move the backline?
that's not how morale works
do you only have 3 dorm slots or something?
placid plover
???
What are you talking about
And yeah I do
You said to put Sara, Hood, and Taihou in the same fleet
high lily
Mob: saratoga, enterprise, perseus, anchorage, ty, Helena
Boss: SS, Stella, Indy, Guam, Portland, Laffii
Mob 2: Nelson, Unicorn, Taihou, FC, Laffey, Zara
placid plover
You never said anything about changing the other fleets tho
high lily
when you use mob 2 you need to move gear between perseus+enterprise and unicorn+taihou
I never said anything about Sara with Hood either...
placid plover
Ph whoops I said the wrong name
placid plover
taihou, unicorn, hood
Meant this
abstract tundra
Did u not buy 2nd floor
abstract tundra
Are u grinding nonstop that your ships are out of morale?
abstract tundra
Just take a break for 1-2 hrs then, your oil cant keep up anyway
placid plover
With the efficiency books
Yeah ik
And I do
But that doesn't change the fact that I wanna use other ships too, I don't just need 2 or 3 fleets
This is a waifu collection game anyway
abstract tundra
Start doing opsi with your good fleets and craft better gear
placid plover
I've been doing that too
I crafted the purple triple torp for Anchorage cause I saw that was her best torp on the community tierlist
I just don't have enough of the gold gun paper things
Or the gold coil
placid plover
Why the doubt react
high lily
I doubt it's actually her best torp
weak sky
technically from a reload standpoint, the blue dual torps are the best ones tho the difference is pretty minute
placid plover
I see
simple sand
why the hell did they reccomend 2 mob fleets
placid plover
simple sand
if you want to aim to clear W13
Mob: Saratoga, Independence, Unicorn, Carl, Tai Yuan, Laffey 2
Boss: Soyuz, Enterprise, Constellation?, Guam, Helena, Anchorage
focus on getting all the ships that aren't lvl 120 to lvl 120 first and foremost if your goal is to clear W13
don't try and split focus between 2 separate fleets, it's just inefficient because while total time to level 12 ships up may be the same, your first ships if you split focus will be done much later compared to when you focus on leveling one set of 6 ships at a time
placid plover
Fleets made
simple sand
which are?
placid plover
...Exactly what you told me to make?
simple sand
ok good
placid plover
if you want to aim to clear W13
Mob: Saratoga, Independence, Unicorn, Carl, Tai ...
^
Should I screenshot everyone's gear too for you?
simple sand
just SS your whole depot including equipped gears
placid plover
Is that really a better idea?
I have a lot of gear on a lot of ships and it looks more cluttered
simple sand
if you feel they're geared competently then
show me what you have equipped on those ships
placid plover
Mob fleet
simple sand
yeah no you're dead
placid plover
Tf
simple sand
but at the least Unicorn should be running a Purple F4u, Independence a Gold Barracuda, etc
placid plover
I thought the F6F was better than the F4U
still peak
if gold
simple sand
Gold F6F is better than the Purple F4u
still peak
the purple f6f hellcat is worse than the purple f4u corsair
simple sand
not the Purple F6F
simple sand
W13 at a baseline needs good transitional gear
placid plover
Guess I'll screenshot what I don't have equipped
For some reason Enty was missing auxes so I put 2 +6 gold steam catapults
paper jackal
do you have any UR designs? to make wyverns? have you opened all the gold tech boxes u have?
placid plover
do you have any UR designs? to make wyverns? have you opened all the gold tech b...
I have, and no
THe only UR gear I have is Guam's main gun
paper jackal
how many? u need 9 to make 1 wyvern + around 70 electronics
placid plover
? I meant I have opened all the gold tech boxes I have
simple sand
For some reason Enty was missing auxes so I put 2 +6 gold steam catapults
better but still a lot of holes
paper jackal
I mean how many ur designs do u have
paper jackal
That wont cut it I am afraid. U should farm opsi more and just be patient. Chapter 12 is good enough to stay and farm for now while u work on your gear. Your ships need xp for level 120 anyway
placid plover
So then what about the gear of my mob fleet vs what I have in my depot?
If it's really that bad
simple sand
can you show all of your equips including those that are equipped, probably gonna have to steal stuff from unused ships
paper jackal
It is not the worst. Just not good enough for ch13. U need better aa guns + planes to cut it short
placid plover
paper jackal
To be fair with guam and laffey and enough levels. You can probably force it but there is really no benefit to pushing 13 early. U will end up coming back to farm 12 anyway
paper jackal
No u should only craft stuff that u will end up using. That bb aux is good but not a gamechanger for ch 13. And agir gun is good but with kron gun and alaska gun u really wont need it
placid plover
So then what should I do
placid plover
There's a bunch of gear there that I don't have
simple sand
actually seccond Quad Mag on Carl
simple sand
There's a bunch of gear there that I don't have
precisely
you can get it all from tech boxes though
point is you're not tackling W13 today, hunker down in W12 and start getting levels on your ships and open more tech boxes
placid plover
Should I stay grinding in 12-1 or 12-4
placid plover
I don't need coins
I'm 20k over my coin cap with 10k in the merchant that I can't claim
79k coins rn
Mostly because of D3
simple sand
don't worry about overcapping too much
it becomes more of a hassle trying to stay below the cap than it's worth
placid plover
this is about what you'll be aiming for
Why does every vanguard ship have the roombas
Is it that good of an AA gun?
simple sand
pretty much of the easy to get options
to the point where it'd be better to stack them rather than run a mix of them with Quad bofors
placid plover
Guess I'll rearrange my gear according to the image as best I can
simple sand
theres no need to clear W13 right this moment so just take your time with it, no rush what so ever
placid plover
Well it's not even about W13 anymore
I was just asking about my gear and what should be changed
Is that setup specific to W13 or something?
I'm gonna be grinding OpSi and W12 a lot so to make it faster I want better gear
placid plover
Oh
paper jackal
If u want good gear then farm opsi really. Not much else u can do to rush it. And have good uptime and correct research choice (pr4)
placid plover
I've been researching PR4
Should I always be buying the gold and UR gear design plans whenever I can?
placid plover
Well I beat the required chapter the day after reset so no
simple sand
you're aware of the changes to the port shops after your first reset though yes?
simple sand
3 day rotation of 8 items ends
you unlock items based on how many explorable nodes you clear
you need to clear 50 to unlock everything
placid plover
Is it better?
simple sand
well if you slack/forget to do it a few you're no longer screwed in terms of getting the good items
placid plover
I have a crap ton of AP items so should I just auto search secured C5 zones?
Or do explorable ones
I have to manually do explorable ones cause I don't have the 5k oil item or whatever
paper jackal
Clear all the icons first. The gold chests and the red zones (at least the ones u can do).
Also buy all the items in the port shops since u have the old system. If u buy sth it wont respawn so u have a better chance to spawn the good stuff in 3 days
paper jackal
I have to manually do explorable ones cause I don't have the 5k oil item or what...
Just do a few zones per day. Do the daily missions. Then by the end of the month when the icons have all piled up on the map u can clear it all in a few hours.
placid plover
A few explorable zones per day?
paper jackal
Yes. There are 62 zones I believe so if u do 2-3/day u will clear it all by the end. The only thing u need to do in opsi daily is the missions. U can leave all the icons for the last week or days. Just make sure u have free time. (If u prefer u can do them slowly every day as well).
If u dont waste AP u will have enough to clear every zone plus 1-2k extra AP by the end of the month
placid plover
So I shouldn't just grind secured C5 zones?
paper jackal
U only do that with the excess AP in the end since it would otherwise go to waste with the reset.
That is actually the least profitable thing u can do in opsi compared to the icons.
By icons I mean
Hidden zones
Abyssals
Strongholds
Arbiter
placid plover
Wdym go to waste? Why?
paper jackal
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Operation_Siren&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop#Reset
Read this but essentially u lose any unspent action point since opsi resets
placid plover
But I mean like
Am I gonna be using that many AP items to clear the zones?
Cause I buy the AP packs whenever i can
It says the AP packs reset when OpSi does but the gear lab materials don;t
Don't you get the materials from C4+ zones
paper jackal
It is better to clear the zones+icons first then farm c5
They require a lot of AP and like I said u get enough but not an infinite amount. Strongholds for example need 200 AP and u will have 6 per month so that is 1200 AP.
Abyssals need another 1000-1500 AP
If u start farming secured zones how will u know when to stop? U might end up spending too much AP and not be able to farm the icons
placid plover
Hm
high lily
why the hell did they reccomend 2 mob fleets
why do you assume anyone recommended two mob fleets. That's pretty elitist. You can maybe try helping people the way they demand
placid plover
@simple sand @hearty crest
One sec they made it so hard to find threads on mobile
Main ships
Vanguards ships
My campaign fleets are different from my opsi fleets btw
simple sand
BB Boss: Nelson retro, Soyuz, Alsace, Anchorage, Helena, Tai Yuan
CV Boss: Enterprise, Taiho, Ark Royal, Guam, Sirius, Laffey 2
Mob: Constellation, Unicorn, Independence, Carl, [filler], [filler]
4th fleet can be whatever
hearty crest
And why Ark Royal of all CVs
cause she slows, so you actually hit the converging torpd
placid plover
Man I have to level her and her skills that's gonna take like a week
hearty crest
placid plover
I mean I'll do it
It's just a while until the skills will be good
I'm supposed to retro her too right
hearty crest
she doesmt meed it but why wont you
simple sand
Where do I get her
medal shop
placid plover
Can't finish Ark's retro yet
simple sand
that's fine
placid plover
Man I can't even start leveling skills because Soyuz and Brennus have 6 and 10 hours left respectively
hearty crest
just check on your classroom more often, its been months since soyuz event , there is no reason shes still not maxed
placid plover
Holy shit unrelated but I just got 2 gem commisions in less than 24 hours that's great
placid plover
just check on your classroom more often, its been months since soyuz event , the...
I got her skills to like lvl 8 and then started working on other ships that needed lvling on skills
hearty crest
placid plover
Now that I can get the T4 books it's easier
placid plover
<:YorkBruh:588629709328482325>
What? I didn't know I needed these two ships and I had to level Alsace, Mogador and a few others
Plus I forgot things a lot
simple sand
you do want multiple boss fleets for OpSi
and the better you build them indiviudally the smoother clears go and the less you need
placid plover
Now I need to look up what gear to give Sirius and Ark
Now that you know my ships is it easier to know whether I go for champ/tenrai first or do you need to see their gear too
placid plover
Is this good for her supporting capability
simple sand
possibly
you want her to be the first to launch but not too far ahead so that they don't desync
placid plover
Why "possibly"
Is there something that should be changed so that desyncing doesn't happen?
simple sand
Why "possibly"
possibly because it's dependent on the cooldown times of Enterprse and Taiho
if Ark Royal is too fast
give her slower planes
like Ryuuseis or Ju-87ds
simple sand
pretty much all of Taiho's planes need changing baring the Hell diver
and anyway, all of them need levels first and foremost
so get them leveled up first and when they're ready to be used sort out the cooldowns
because increasing levels increases reload stat which changes airstrike cooldown time
placid plover
What level do they need to be?
simple sand
120 preferably
something like that for heavy armor
medium and light something like that
hearty crest
something like that for heavy armor
f4u?
placid plover
Why are their 2nd aux slots empty
hearty crest
Why are their 2nd aux slots empty
well if u need a faster cv comp u run beacon, if not catapult
simple sand
that for medium and heavy armor on your BBs
placid plover
I have exactly one wdym
placid plover
that for medium and heavy armor on your BBs
Also why is Soyuz not using her gun?
simple sand
that for light
simple sand
Also why is Soyuz not using her gun?
why would she be
placid plover
????
Why wouldn't she be?
simple sand
it's her gun
placid plover
It's her gun after all
simple sand
but there's no inherent reason for her to be using it
placid plover
Why
simple sand
there's no bonuses or buffs she get's by using it
and I put it in Alsace to get her to sync a bit better
placid plover
Sync better how?
simple sand
Alsace being a bit slower means Soyuz has more time to apply her debuff so Alsace can take advantage of it
though you don't have a another French ship in the fleet
so yeah swap them
simple sand
something like that for heavy armor
also that instead for Heavy
placid plover
so yeah swap them
Swap them as in keep Soyuz's gun on Soyuz?
placid plover
I mean it's not like I can even follow that image as I don't have a single champ gun
simple sand
time to work on that then
placid plover
I already bought out the proto core bp for it but it's not enough to craft even one
simple sand
you'll use them a lot for bossing in OpSi and other places
yeah
that's why they're first priority
placid plover
Well since it's gonna take a while to reach 120 and get multiple of those guns I'm gonna keep doing opsi with the fleets I have since I'm not just gonna forget about opsi until they're 120/I have those guns, especially since I don't have any real issues clearing all zones outside of harbiter
Also do the exchange tickets carry over to the next reset or am I supposed to use them before reset?
placid plover
I will
simple sand
that's good to go as is
placid plover
But is there a reason why it's BB only and then CV only?
simple sand
taking advantage of damage buffs like Sirius
also it's just easier to sync within the same hull type rather than cross hull
placid plover
So Alsace flag and then Nelson and Soyuz?
simple sand
Nelson is flagship
placid plover
Is this good or should I use a different tank than Guam in the off tank on mob fleet
placid plover
Wdym by that
simple sand
middle
placid plover
I mean it's not like she's weak
paper jackal
Guam would be better main tank for the bb fleet tbh
Better dps + armor break + crossfleet for stella and indep
simple sand
I mean it's not like she's weak
she's not but level Advantage and disadvantage don't go away
simple sand
Guam would be better main tank for the bb fleet tbh
Better dps + armor break + c...
oh right, forgot about that
placid plover
Oh wait you said for the bb fleet
paper jackal
I think do Guam helena tai yuan for the bb fleet
And stick the rest in mob
placid plover
Guess I'll just switch Anchorage and Guam