Current Game Status/Questions

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I don’t have a second formation set up at the moment because of my current gear situation. Plus, I’m also still working on FDG. This is my current formation and the current characters I’m using with their current gear as well as the excess gear in my depot.

The next picture is how far along FDG is towards unlocking. After I post this picture, I’ll get ready to ask my next question.

The next thing I also just wanted to mention is the next pics I’m going to upload all of the only PR characters I currently do not have enough points to be able to develop/unlock. Every single other character has either been started, is close to completion, is completed already, or I have the ability to develop when necessary.

[severe charm]

well you should make two fleets. you seem to have plenty of gear

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it’s only I think two factions that I can’t develop all characters in the PR section.

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my only problem is I’m using the website to make those fleets and I’m not good at figuring out what gear to put on if it’s not a recommended piece of gear. I probably should write some things down somewhere, but I don’t have the capability to do that for another hour or so. a lot of the gear the website that you guys suggested a while back. I’m missing a lot of that gear or enough copies of it.

these are the only characters I don’t have the capability to develop right now on the other hand.

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sorry, if that’s a lot at once I’m currently at work and I don’t have the greatest memory anymore. wanted to get everything out before I forgot but I was thinking or asking.

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Wait so what is your question exactly?

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First question is. What should my gear and two formations be?

I know how to use the website, but most of the gear it recommends I do not have or do not have enough copies. So not sure what to put on each character.

Second question. Which characters should be worked on developing/unlocking after FDG.

(Seattle, Saint Louis, Monarch, and Anchorage have all at least been unlocked and either started development, finished development, or am closed to being finishing being fully developed.) The images above are the only characters I cannot develop yet. Every other one can be developed that I have not mentioned.

[severe charm]

you need to repost with all equipped gear

unless you're failed to get unzen's gun somehow you seem to not be using good gear on your actual ships

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I am just going so far with what the website said and what I have available to me

I can pin it. It is at the top of the thread

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I will just reply. It does not want to let me pin it

@severe charm does that help me replying to my earlier post?

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you're only showing unequipped gear. we would need to know what ALL your gear is including equipped gear

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Those are the characters I am currently using and the equipped gear from the info screen

The next photos under that are what is in my depot

[severe charm]

so you weren't able to get an unzen gun even though you have unzen?

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wdym?

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you have unzen right?

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Yes

If you are referring to UR gear. I have zip, zilch, nada UR gear

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her event came with this gun but I don't see it anywhere

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Nope no UR gear. The Highest I have is SR gear.

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ok that's unfortunate

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I do not think I have the resources for it and I do not know how to get it either

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it was in her event shop

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When was that?

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same time you got unzen

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apparently not then

[severe charm]

yeah ok it is what it is

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how to you even get materials for UR gear?

I certainly do not have enough materials to craft any UR gear atm

[severe charm]

you just get event points and buy it

it would have been 10000 event points and you can fairly easily get 30000 event points

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I don't usually play enough lately for that most times with at leat 4 - 5 other games I play daily give or take

Sometimes I do though

I also play MSF, SWGOH, Asphalt 9 Legends, a Looney Tunes game, and some other ones every so often as well. Like Warframe and Destiny 2.

[severe charm]

so start with swap everything between unzen and saint louis except the gun. Give Unzen this gun

unzen is the great ship. saint louis is the not as great ship so you want your best stuff on unzen

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Do I need to also post more or my dock and switch some ships out?

[severe charm]

you should

i'll write up some more and be back in about an hour

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ok

by the way, this is the current situation with craftable UR gear

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what map are you farming?

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I do not even know what map you would even farm the parts on?

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it is a general question. could have just pinged you i guess

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I switched around what you suggested but any further advice?

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it would be good to know what you are willing to farm

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Whatever I need to make two decent teams. I have all the IB characters on first fleet rn for FDG

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At the same time trying to finish farming xp to unlock FDG

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mob: Bismarck, Tirpitz, Unicorn, Unzen, Z23, Laffii

boss: Hood, Enterprise, Intrepid, Anchorage, Helena, Sandy

do anything 12+

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Which Laffey? I or II. Since I’ve been working on number two.

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II

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I have all of the chapter 12 notes done but I’m stuck on 13–1

[severe charm]

just do 12 then. bad IB ships and 13 progression don't mix

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I can’t get past it yet, but tomorrow when I have time to re-organize, I’ll redo everything. Any advice on gear, though since the website hasn’t been the greatest help 100%

in addition to that after I finish off FDG any advice on who to work on next?

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agir typically follows after fdg

give everything on gneisenau to bismarck except for secondary

give bismarck's main gun and AA to tirpitz

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OK I might have some more questions for you on that tomorrow when I have more time to fix everything

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I noticed that image is only 6 of them and not all 12. What do you do for the other 6? Also how did you create that image?

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the gear on your other ones was already stated. I can make pictures for those also if you really need it

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ok

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https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

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I am going to rework the formations in a moment

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This is where I’m at with the gear so far

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I did have to craft some more purple gear because I didn’t have enough of it for some of the characters so far

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thank you I’ll take a closer. Look that one SR piece of gear on hood I may not have an additional one to use but I have to check. If so, I don’t even know if I’d be able to craft it right now. I’ll let you know what I find out.

same also for Z23

If I don’t, I’ll let you know

so for Hood. all my twin, 113s have been used up. I don’t have anymore left and I have to see if I can even craft it or not. I don’t know yet.

looks like I need 14 more to be even able to craft one and I don’t know where you can get the pieces to craft it at.

I have the elite version of that gun, but not the SR version.

[severe charm]

put the staag on hood

in general gold aa > all lower aa. you have 10 gold aa and only 10 ships that can use aa so it's all good. it's only a matter of deploying your gold aa correctly.

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staag?

also, any ideas how to get more blueprints or whatever for those weapons the gear, you originally suggested that’s already used up on other characters? Not sure the best way to get more copies of it.

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nvm figured it out now that I had a chance to pull my computer up while on break at work

For Tirpitz should I still craft the AA you suggested or craft one of these?

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yeah it wasn't being used on anyone

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gold aa. you shouldn't need to craft anything

or there you go. craft a hazemeyer and use it on bismarck

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Well I did not have the AA gear piece atm you suggested to use there on Tirpitz

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the twin 90 is also really good

the first gold one

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Well do you still want me to use that elite AA after I craft it on Tirpitz or should I craft the other SR AA weapon instead?

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in general gold aa > all lower aa. you have 10 gold aa and only 10 ships that can use aa so it's all good. it's only a matter of deploying your gold aa correctly.

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That is should I craft the Twin 90mm?

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if you want or don't bother. just depends on your gold and parts

a +0 twin 90 isn't going to be better than a +10 quad bofors

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ok. Well I still have to level them up

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it's up to you. there's nothing wrong your existing gold aa except you need more STAAGs and Hazemeyers

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wait a minute I was on Z23 not Tirpitz woops

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you do research and ops and open gold boxes and buy all unique event gear

core data also I guess

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OK well I have to head back to work. so this is the current situation.

Might’ve still mixed some things up and might have to still flip-flop things around. But I was running out of time.

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it's good enough

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OK I’ll keep it that way for now and I’ll just level up the gear. Hopefully at some point point in the future, I can get that other gear that’s better. However, I’m not sure the best way to farm better gear in addition to finishing off FDG? any advice on that since I’m not getting a good drop rate for those particular chests that drop SR gear.

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you just have to keep doing research and ops. Like I can make over 70 gold hydraulic steerings or over 1 for every month the game has been in service. But you only have 1 in almost a year. Even if you only want to play 15 or 30 minutes a day you should be able to get one every 2 months by doing the most rewarding things first. And xp grinding is generally one of the least rewarding things you can do in the game.

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What are gold hydraulic steerings?

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I’d be playing operation, siren more if there was a way to auto the map at some point that way I don’t have to click on every every single enemy I have to attack, but there doesn’t seem to be way to do that. I cannot unlock the entire map within a month with what time I play this game and the difficulty of some of those notes even if I switch the difficulty

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ops is the most autoable thing in the game

you can literally auto it for like 8 hours at a time

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what do you mean cause I’ve tried to auto it and it doesn’t work. It won’t let me. Maybe I’m missing something.

I have to literally manually select every single ship by attack and such. I’ve never fully unlocked the map even once.

[severe charm]

you don't need to finish the map. you just need to finish chapter 4. once you do that you can full auto ops.

chapter 4 is a one time thing and probably takes a few hours. after that you can full auto ops every month

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well, if that’s the case, then I don’t know how to sit at the auto because I haven’t seen any way to do that. Also, are you referring to chapter 4 in the campaign or in operation siren?

in addition to that, do I need to adjust these formations for operation siren that I currently have made?

I assume I at least need to make formation one into the same as what they currently are, but not sure about the last two and the submarine one.

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does your ops reset?

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I believe so. Give me a moment and I’ll show you.

nothing is currently unlocked right now on it. Just shows my characters of the gnome where I last left them the last time I played.

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ok yes it resets (in 9 days)

so to auto all you need to do is buy the Operation Siren Data Logger from the Exchange Shop for 5000 oil at the beginning of every month.
Use it. And then you can strategic search until you run out of AP. you can run for hours by starting with say 1000 AP.

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Let me figure out what shop that is one moment

These are the four stores I’m seeing inside operation, siren and none of them have that particular item available

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In addition, how do you get more of these?

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convert combat data packs and analyze research blueprints

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nope. go to the world map, bottom left

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Which ones are those?

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Give me a moment to check

I assume you mean this thing? then, if so, how do I use it or when’s the best time to use it to get to where I can auto the map?

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immediately after reset. for this month it's up to you whether 5000 oil is worth 9 days of full auto

I assume also that since you don't play a lot, 5000 oil isn't an issue

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research blueprints

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Well, is it worth them analyzing any of them for any of these store items?

I have several hundred of different categories. I’d have to take a picture though to show you.

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it's the primary suggestion for combat data packs and the only thing you can do with excess research blueprints

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So should I buy all of those UR pieces of gear?

And anything else from that store?

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also, what’s the difference between the different ones you can analyze? Are they for different gear types and such or what?

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Took a lot of resources, but what about this?

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change the first two fleets around for operation siren but what do I do for the final two fleets and sub?

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their alternate use is for combat data exp for the season indicated

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tenrai and quad 152 are the priorities but you may or may not want some more basic stuff first

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just fill them with junk. you only have 12 ships equipped anyway

unless you want to try equipping more ships?

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Well what is the one I crafted so far. Not in that game rn

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you haven't bought any of the rainbow gear yet (you need 3000 protocore to complete one)

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If you look I did craft one already

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This image

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oh ok. it's fine. tenrai is probably a smidge higher priority but no worries

you want and will get both eventually

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ok

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oh by the way, I’m over 40% done with the last objective for FDG. When I do start working on Agir. which of these would be the best characters to use to grind for XP?

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everyone on the 1st row except for graf is fine

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if that’s the case, when I change out both Vanguard portions of fleet one and fleet two? Just for that time while I’m grinding out XP? inhibition to that but I use the same gear currently on the Vanguard fleet. I’m using now.

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sure although they may not all be capable of surviving in the boss fleet of 12+

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yeah, so I’ll probably work on some thing else to grind their levels up until they get to the point where they can. the current team by the way with the gear you suggested can’t even get past 12–4 without some difficulty or 12–2. Current team also cannot do 13–1 yet either.

My assumption is that some characters need to be a higher level, and may or may not need their gear leveled up further

I might as well switch what is in the Dorm right now so I can start training their levels up a bit

In addition, should I craft any of these gear pieces?

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of course not. those ships suck(bismarck and tirpitz)

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ok

I might just then farm I guess Divergent chessboard?

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if that's what you want or 12-1 and 12-2 are perfectly safe also

although if fleet 1 can't mob 12-4 safe that's not normal

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Some of the ships in my formation have been taking a lot of damage on 12-1 and 12-2

yeah it cannot easily do that node right now

without taking a lot of damage. Also on another note. Now that I can develop almost every ship in PR with the exception or at least 2-3 factions. Are there any elite or lower ships I can get rid of safely unless for collections rewards like gems, SR gear, etc?

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that's not normal. what is unicorn doing?

this can do 12-2 from over 5 levels less and it's a far worse comp than yours.

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wdym what is Unicorn doing?

[severe charm]

unicorn shouldn't be letting the other ships get hurt. so if they are, then what is unicorn doing?

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I will look in just a moment

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what's with the bismarck? 2LB ships bad but even so you shouldn't be dying on 12-1. have you never gotten it to safe?

the other likely issue would be did you actually reasonable enhance your main gear?

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It is safe but still getting badly damaged on several but not all ships

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wdym?

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z23 gun wasn't enhanced in the last available picture

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give me a moment

I do need to get my credits back up regardless

[severe charm]

like this is my categorically worse fleet after 12-4.

but start with the obvious. limit break bismarck and enhance all main guns and planes to +10

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ok well do need to save up my credits and whatever the materials are called to upgrade gear then

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@severe charm so it likes the first full clear of either node 12–3 or 12–4 all my units were fine and some only lost a small amount of health. However, after starting and getting to I guess the fourth or fifth battle on the second run this happened with some of my ships but not all of them.

The Vanguard ships did not take much damage, but it looks like I think that’s Tirpitz possibly, started taking quite a lot of damage. However, after this battle was over the final boss popped up.

That could also be Bismarck. I don’t remember which ship that is.

I’m going to finish at least this clear up and see how the boss fleet does

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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at. Bismarck at 50% health? If it's not at safe yet just live with it. Your Bismarck is truly bad though which may explain her taking extra damage

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All notes for chapter 12 are already at safe but yet some ships are still getting pretty badly damaged.

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I see that makes sense. Some of the other ships do take a little bit of damage during five or so battles but it’s usually pretty minuscule.

I can certainly try chapter 13, but I don’t know how well it’s gonna go yet. I’ll test it out and let you know.

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I assume you're going to die. Your ships are so bad.(Bismarck and Tirpitz)

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on a different note, these are the characters I still need to finish completing the collections for just for the rewards. That being said, besides, finishing off those characters, are there any of the following elite or lower characters that I can get rid of that are not necessary for retrofitting or otherwise?

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Who knows. It's up to you. You will always be at risk they make ship better

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Was just trying to make some space that’s all

unless the collections ships are needed for something else any of them that are common or whatever the next tier up is, I’ll get rid of them after I finish getting their collection rewards.

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I have about 20% left to finish FDG

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@severe charm Just unlocked her. Any gear advice and on how to edit my formations?

Also is this character any good and should I craft any of the following gear?

I also just started Agir research btw

current formation and IB main line characters

[severe charm]

she won't be usable until D30

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This is all situationally useful

why is your bismarck still only LB2? Just use gneisenau then

you can start preparing for agir cdc2. you'll need ib vanguards

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I swear the current step says you only need mains for her

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Like what situation?

If I switch to Gneisenau. What gear do I put on her then?

I need enought SR level Bulin to be able to max lb Bismark

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it does but why wait until it's done before figuring out what vanguards you will use. like if you need to level some vanguards maybe now is the time while you commit to unicorn. later maybe you will try to not use unicorn at all. or just keep it simple and use unicorn forever and ever. Either way it doesn't hurt to start looking at it now versus when it's too late.

[severe charm]

move whatever you have on bismarck 1 for 1

you could also not do agir and pump out avp while you're setup for ib main order is irrelevant. only how much swapping you are willing to do matters

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avp?

Well I have Agir ready to go, but I have research focus set to FDG right now.

Gonna do what I can on Agir rn, but using my daily limits on FDG.

btw is Agir main or vanguard ship?

For Bismarck. Would any of this SR gear be better for now?

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@severe charm

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vanguard

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none. your bismarck is bad. all non mlb ships are. move on to gneisenau

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august von parseval

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I was using this image to show what gear I had on her before. Before I posted the image to check if any of that SR gear would be a better choice

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ok I guess I can switch to her when it allows me to

current progress on AvP btw

which btw is Agir PRY or DRY and same question for AvP?

Switching to Gneisenau really lowers my mains power though

I was over 13k with Bismarck

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@severe charm do you think any of that SR gear is a better choice for Gneisenau? Also, based on the most recent picture I sent do you still have the same recommendations?

[severe charm]

this is ok but gneisenau is terrible with secondaries anyway

[severe charm]

you still have bismarck...

tl;dr fleet power is a worthless stat

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ok and would any of those gear pieces I can craft be better?

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ok

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https://tenor.com/view/epic-facepalm-gif-14650403

Woops. I switched up the gear but not the formation.

[severe charm]

none of them are secondaries so no

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ok

btw then who should I have in my main?

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tirpitz

you're still doing ib main combat data exp

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ok

Well then when I can switch PR ships again would you recommend me finishing up AvP first or sticking with Agir?

Cannot switch until tomorrow

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it's your choice. if you want to keep your life simple then keep doing research that needs ib main like agir cdc1, avp, odin, prinz rupprecht, etc. If you're tired of using bad ships then keep doing agir and switch everything at cdc2. you would drop all these horrible sucky ib backliners you're using and go back to using actual good ships that make you better.

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cdc1?

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combat data collection 1

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I forget what that is?

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good ships thast make me better. So that being said who should I switch to tomorrow?

[severe charm]

well you're not done with agir cdc1. you switch when you're done.

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I can worry about getting main line ships better later

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maybe you don't know about agir and cb/large cruisers?

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ok

I guess I don't

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read cdc2

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well did you see my progress already on AvP?

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0 unless you were planning to get 3M xp in one day...

FdG took you several weeks. AvP isn't going to be much faster

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ok yeah and starting to get low on oil. That being said what do you suggest?

so will need to take my time and build back up

only have 3117 oil rn

[severe charm]

I think you should actually get better and stop throwing every resource into terrible ships

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ok well what do you suggest then

[severe charm]

finish agir

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Also, since I want to get Unzen to 125 how do I get more of the mission resource. I forget. One moment

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start thinking about what ib vanguards you will use

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well do you have any IB vanguard recommendations?

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I don't have an agir to show so this is the best I can do

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#1220479583921635442 message

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I can Google IB PR ships I guess

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well actually since you can't finish heiny either use graf

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sorry phone was being a hare laggy. I see what you mean now.

Heinrich is max lb'd so what do you mean?

Just not at level 100 yet

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oh well

should have done bismarck instead so heiny is good to use

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wait now I am getting confused. I had Prinz Heinrich before I ever got Bismarck I am pretty sure of that.

[severe charm]

if you go back to that screenshot, heiny was still 2LB

maybe it's an old screenshot you had and not taken at time of posting

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I swear that was on old thread that you are referring to. Not sure I will have to look myself. Probably so though

any advice that being said though? I will get Bismark Max lbd once I get two of the appropriate Bulins

[severe charm]

don't bother. you'll be done with agir cdc1 before you can ween yourself off unicorn

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ok

Would you recommend though putting FDG in dorm to at least level her up for the time being?

[severe charm]

if it won't interfere with morale restoration

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ok

well FDG is not equipped and I have my mob team in the rest part of the dorm

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@severe charm

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@severe charm could I actually buy that thing in operation siren that costs 5k oil and then just use it tomorrow at reset?

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no it will disappear

why even try that though? Just buy it tomorrow

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ok. Will do I just wanted to confirm.

I have like only 7k oil rn. So have not played any today while I wait for it to refresh. However, I still got two objectives done for Agir. The first one for research projects and the one right below it

[severe charm]

sounds like you shouldn't be buying the 5k oil logger

but eh I think I remember you saying this is like 4th or 5th gatcha game so you need to decide how to balance time vs efficiency

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Well if I buy that and focus on Op Si for a bit I can save my oil back up though. So not really that worried about it. Was really just double checking

[severe charm]

you can do all of OPS without it. All you need is time

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I am aware. That is why I was trying to say. I will spend the 5k oil on that item and grind Op Si while I wait for the oil to regenerate

[severe charm]

that doesn't make sense to me

if you need oil why would you spend 5k oil on nothing?

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the thing to help me farm (auto) Op Si. You said it cost 5k oil

[severe charm]

you don't need it to farm ops. you can farm ops by just clicking more

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https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652

I am referring to Operation Siren. Since I have never even fully unlocked the map before. Not even once.

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why not? you can explore a new zone every 30 minutes on recon cooldown

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because first off all I do not have the time. Second my characters cannot normally complete every node because they have not been strong enough. Mostly the time aspect as it takes way too long and it has not been letting me auto things. I do not have the time to manual everything

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i see. it was the part where you said you would do ops while waiting for oil that confused me. you meant it more like you wouldn't miss the oil because you could do ops instead

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yeah just spend the oil to be able to makes ops more farmable and still claim oil every so often until I get to a decent point and keep playing those characters after enough regened.

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This is where my oil is currently at

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is this the thread you were talking about ? @minor adder

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https://tenor.com/view/nodding-saturday-night-live-yep-yup-yes-gif-2871158352032044666

This is my current status with each of those four factions, if I’m not mistaken

I just unlocked FDG and currently leveling her up in the dorm. I’m also currently working on unlocking Agir rn.

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if you have lots of exp packs, you can just limit break your ijn purple and gold ships to quickly get the IJN points needed for haku. Azuma is kinda skippable, I never use her.

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by the way, if you suggest me saving up cubes, I can certainly do that. I just won’t spend any on this event anymore. This is where I’m currently at though towards being able to get New Jersey from pulls.

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ok. I got a decipher that abbreviation because I’m not sure which faction you’re referring to off the bat.

[split storm]

you should have 400 plus orbs always ready for the next UR or UR rerun. Pulling heavily on lame events like this is super stupid.

[minor adder]

ok. That’s perfectly fine with me. I can start saving back up again.

also, still not sure what IJN stands for.

[split storm]

All "sakura empire" ships are labled "IJN" and is short for "Imperial Japanese Navy" You'll eventually learn and see the patterns.

[minor adder]

gotcha. by the way, like UniqueName was saying, would you recommend continuing to work on Iron Blood PR ships after I finish Agir?

I can post more if needed, but this is the current situation with the two characters I recently mentioned that are iron blood

[split storm]

My approach to research ships was I finished them all as kind of a completionist goal.
The typical beginner advice is focus on PR4 till you have the prints to finish Dev 30 or Fate Sim the DR ships, and then move on to PR5 then PR6. The reason is the ships and the gear in PR4 is better than PR5 and PR6 in that order, and the older seasons are coinable for blue prints and you can use catch up prints after you finish a coinable ship to fate sim 5 to convert to prototype core to buy gear prints from the shop

[minor adder]

The final photo is of my current mob fleet since I don’t have very good main line Iron Blood ships right now.

[split storm]

FdG is coinable blue prints, so she should be prioritized for actual use, but you don't need to research PR2 to get her, just set her to catchup prints and buy 10 prints a day or so

[minor adder]

I see. So you like to also be a completion list or a collector to I take it?

[split storm]

I grinded FdG's main IB exp requirement using Gneisenau and Scharnhorst

[minor adder]

that is who I currently have my catch-up ship set to. I’ll change it after she’s finished.

[split storm]

this game is very auto friendly, so just grinding stuff and slowly making progress is satisfying to me.

[minor adder]

I don’t yet have that second ship and I don’t have enough currency to purchase her yet.

[split storm]

what do you mean currency to purchase?

[minor adder]

at least not from the store anyway. I haven’t been lucky enough to get her if she drops from the divergent chessboard. If she does, I don’t know which node she drops from.

[minor adder]

I dont have Scharnhost yet. one moment

thanks give me a few

[split storm]

the wiki tells you where to grind each map drop

[split storm]

pretty sure you can do the "hard mode" and I'm pretty sure hard mode drops more ships

[minor adder]

I just did four runs of autoing B-3 and nothing yet

which, by the way, is already at safe

[split storm]

do hard mode

skip normal mode forever

D4 is easy

[minor adder]

is B–3 not hard mode? if so, I’m not sure if I’ve even completed that node yet. I have to check.

[split storm]

A and B maps are normal. C and D maps are "hard"
Further, all of the "D" maps have oil cap, so you can run full fleets for cheap, you don't even need to bring strong ships

[minor adder]

Gotcha

Well due to work, I haven’t had a chance to check where I’m at on those maps, so give me a few

[split storm]

if you want the 60 clears to get the SSR, you need to do D4, not B4

[minor adder]

This is where I’m at with the node you mentioned

As well as the surrounding nodes

I haven’t tried to attempt it either before or in a while, so I don’t know how well my units will do. We shall see.

oh, by the way, I already have Z46 max limit breaked

[split storm]

just bring a full fleet of ships around lvl 80 and you'll be fine. If you're worried, bring unicorn

[minor adder]

She’s already level 125 and in my mob fleet

[split storm]

waste of at least one bulin if you were planning on famring chessboard, imo

[minor adder]

my gear on my account, though is another story for each ship. I can’t even get past 13-1 yet.

I don’t remember how long ago I got her

[split storm]

lvl 125 z46 is wild

[minor adder]

with my current fleet one I can do the easy 12–1 to 12–3 I think that’s about it maybe 12–4.

[split storm]

if you're following guides, just work on gear one slot at a time

[minor adder]

This is my current iron blood by the way

[minor adder]

I just posted a question in #gameplay-help while doing D-4

[split storm]

1. For grinding PR research, don't worry about good, you don't need good to grind out easy levels.
2. no, she's not good.

[minor adder]

finally unlocked her by the way!

[split storm]

Cool

[minor adder]

I checked though the archives in game last night, and I noticed there are quite a lot of iron blood ships that I do not have yet. Didn’t realize there were quite so many.

@split storm and @severe charm should I even start on the second combat data collection given these images? Also, will the gain even let me start on the second combat data collection if I haven’t finished the first?

[split storm]

You have to finish first before second.

I believe I farmed using all destroyers, z46,1,23. But just use whatever.

[minor adder]

Well, those are the Vanguard units I have currently

[split storm]

I get it, not sure what you want to hear.

[minor adder]

By the way, what does the full operation siren map look like? I’m not sure if I have the entire map. This is what mine currently looks like. Saving the corrosion level five nodes until I finish all the ones that aren’t.

[split storm]

that's the whole map, nothing in addition to the center area.

But make sure you complete all the "red" story nodes

[minor adder]

Yep working on it. For some reason I thought the map was bigger. Guess I misinterpreted or was misinformed.

[minor adder]

Is this plane worth crafting?

[split storm]

that is best in slot for Hyuga and Ise, but they aren't very good.

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[minor adder]

Sounds good. I still need to get enough materials to craft any of the other gear that is SSR or higher

[split storm]

stick with gear that is from boxes until you do enough opsi that you can craft what you want. Basically work one ship at a time one slot at a time, find out what would be better than what you currently have and work towards it

[minor adder]

would you agree that I still need to just get better units at a better state and better gear since I’m still struggling to get through 13-1?

[split storm]

are you struggling with mobs or with boss?
Why are you trying to clear 13-1 with ships you're using to grind PR research instead of with actually good ships?
Tirpitz and Gneisnau are not good. Z23 is not a good tank.
I have no idea who is in your hood fleet.

basically stay in w12 while you're grinding up ship levels, grinding it on safe is easy.
First clears of w13 are going to be difficult, especially if you don't have a good base of levels ships and gear. It gets easier once you got each of the levels to "safe", but even then, is considerably harder than w12

W13 also is hard without good AA cover and the use of both good AA vanguards and good plane interception. Better to run more carriers than battleships. Tirpitz and Gneisnau are doing you no favors.

okay, seems like your hood fleet has hood, enterprise, and intrepid along with Anchorage. Not sure who else is there.

what levels and gear are on enterprise and intrepid? who else is in your vanguard besides anchorage, what is anchorages dev level, what are they all equipped with?

there are a lot of questions, I know, but these may be reasons or concerns for why you're having trouble.

[minor adder]

both mobs and boss

[minor adder]

I was just trying to see where my units were currently at as a test

I’m not grinding it I just keep testing to see how far I can get

[minor adder]

OK well I also cannot do the hard mode of chapter 12 yet. That is still too difficult for me. I can only do easy right now.

[split storm]

If your best ships include Tirpizt Gneisnau and z23 and intrepid, you have some work you can do to do better.

[split storm]

hard mode is hard... it takes a while to get w12 hard mode cleared. It's easier when it is safe, but stays pretty hard.

w13 normal mode is almost as hard as w12 hard mode.

[minor adder]

I have several pictures I’m about to include, but I’m gonna break them up into sections

Current dock

current formations

current gear in depot

[split storm]

your levels are quite spread out, why is that?

[minor adder]

current gear in fleet 1 and 2 (I wish they had a sort filter for Fleet, one and fleet two etc.)

[minor adder]

wdym? I got them all at different times so of course they’re all gonna be at different levels since they weren’t all acquired at the same time and I used different fleets in the past. If that’s what you’re asking.

don’t really have enough resources to upgrade the gear any further right now. I only have one piece of UR gear and that’s it.

[split storm]

stay in w12 safe mode and grind up many more main fleet ships.... you have hardly any main line ships high level, but for some reason many more high lvl vanguards... you have hardly any "tank" type vanguard ships high lvl

[minor adder]

what do you mean grind more main fleet chips from W-2 or just from PRs?

did you look at my full roster or my current poor gear situation?

[split storm]

you should focus on a single fleet and then a single second fleet until you can easily clear w12, and then start carrying other ships. You have a ton of ships between lvl 90 and lvl 110, but hardly any at lvl 120, which means you keep swapping before you finish them.

[minor adder]

Well, the problem is I keep getting varying advice over time as I progress with the game so I haven’t got any consistent advice since this is not my main game

[split storm]

you didn't display your gear to include equipped gear.

[minor adder]

well, I would like to get Unzen to 125, but I don’t have enough materials.

[split storm]

this advice is what you should follow:
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[minor adder]

I did, but you have to keep looking at the photos. I sent them all at separate batches cause I can only send 10 photos at the time so you might have to scroll back up

I just didn’t include all the purple gear and the depot. That’s the only thing I didn’t include.

[split storm]

keep grinding w12 til you can easily +10 most good gear, like these:

keep doing whatever hard mode you can clear and buy the gold white and black shells for your BB's. They help a lot.

keep doing research so you can get more rudders:

[minor adder]

OK well I’m only still working on chapter 6 for hard mode

This is what my gear Depot looks like with the equipped filter, turned on

I stopped at the elite gear. I didn’t go past that or too far into it.

[split storm]

why did you buy the yellow shell at all?

it is for brittish ships, better to put that on hood than gneisnau

yellow shell is a side grade from white shell for royal ships

better to just buy black and white shell

Seems like you mostly are doing okay with Gear, just need to build better slowly. Do so by grinding levels and plates and gear from w12, and then start farming opsi

you need to work on tanks and AA before you tackle w13, just stay in w12

[minor adder]

I’m just going with what people on the website has recommended to me in the past. I don’t mind switching things around if I have to.

Currently though with the gear the way it is I can’t get past 12–4 on easy very easily I know for certain my boss lead at least one of the characters gets killed by the time I just did four total clears of 12–4

[split storm]

you need to clear 12-4 until it's on "safe"

enemies do 20% less damage at safe

If you can't clear w12 easily, then why go on to w13?

[minor adder]

It is, but I still can’t clear it without issues

[minor adder]

right now I’m just trying to see if how good my current fleets are as just a test to see how they do in w13-1. I’m not actually trying to clear w13 yet.

regardless, now I have to wait I can’t do anything in operation siren right now, or with the campaign. I only only have a little over 1K oil left. An operation siren. I’m trying to do the story campaign but the boss that I’m trying to face I’ve had to rest and refresh the units once and even trying to use two fleets. A total of three times did not fully kill this boss off. So I have to wait roughly 8 hours before I can attempt it again. because by that time, I’ll be able to rest the characters and get the debuff off of them again.

getting closer with Agir though

I only need one more cruiser thing for the one objective. I’m currently at seven.

This is where I’m at, though with the hard mode nodes

[split storm]

Sorry , sounds rough. I don’t remember the early game grind very well. At some point nothing is hard

[minor adder]

also, for the hard chapter 6, I just haven’t decided to start working on that node yet. I will say, though I do not like the fact that things like the hard mode nodes and certain other things, do not allow you to set up your two or more fleets in the same way as certain other aspects of the game. It only lets you of course choose certain units for certain parts of it and that’s what I don’t like.

[split storm]

Hard mode gates you on purpose to have variety on your dock

I kind of like it

[severe charm]

I'm going to go back to this. You're not getting conflicting advice. you are misapplying what you are told.
these ships suck. That is unquestionable. But as shitty as they are they are the best you have for Agir. YOU chose to accept that level of badness in exchange for FdG and Agir. If you want to progress through 13, you can't use these ships. Having an easy life and progression are conflicting interests. You generally can't have both.

[minor adder]

I understand that. And again, it also depends on which ships I have available at the time to even work on said PR ships. Hard to use good ships when I don’t have them.

Had to edit that silly AutoCorrect with voice to text

[minor adder]

so I’m currently at this point with Agir. any advice on how to reformat my mob and boss fleet formations for the Vanguard ship XP portion? Including the gear and how to switch that around as well.

[minor adder]

I have not done any battles yet or change the gear around, but this is what I currently set it to. I can change it around if needed.

Call not sure if any of these pieces are gear worth crafting right now or not

[sturdy haven]

the best thing u can do is putting them in the dorm for the +120 moral boost
agir will take an eternity to reach dev25 at least to be usable ( or at least for my experience )
u can take it slow

[minor adder]

I do that once I unlock them but I still have to unlock them first

That is why I am trying to figure out what I need to do or what units and what gear I need to get one of those final two steps done

[sturdy haven]

so u are done from the 2m exp step ?

[minor adder]

I finished the main line ships step, but now I’m on the Vanguard ships step

I need to figure out which ships of the iron blood ships for Vanguard I need to use and what gear I need to use. You might have to scroll back up to see that situation with which Vanguard ships I have and which gear I was previously using on my previous formation.

Otherwise, I’d have to find it and repost it again

[sturdy haven]

use whatever u like just make sure u put them in the second floor

i used these for the process

slam on them some hp and go 12-1

[minor adder]

Never mind still waking up it took me a minute to realize what you were talking about

[minor adder]

this

[minor adder]

this

[sturdy haven]

do u have cross fleet barrage ships ?

[minor adder]

this

I reposted these particular things here or linked to these particular things to show you what gear I was using on my previous formations, and to show you what iron blood vanguard ship I currently have

[minor adder]

not sure what you mean. Just check those things. I replied to to show you where my previous formation was and what iron blood ships I have.

[sturdy haven]

yeah no issues
put ur strongest main ships with unicorn to do the mobbing
the vanguards u have should be enough
but i honestly can't tell u exactly how much it will take because i was using uvh that had a crossfeet barrage

even if she isn't in the fight from her position in the boss fleet she can help wipe the mobs

[minor adder]

Not sure what ship you’re talking about with that

OK well give me a minute I’ll show you which my main line ships are that are not iron blood. Give me a moment.

this is not all of them just the highest level ones for main ships

[sturdy haven]

yeah put the highest levels in ur fleets
it is that easy
unicorn saratoga ( level her she is one of the best characters in ur roster ) hood
ticonderoga owari enty

since most of them are CV put cv cats

[minor adder]

ok I can do that. Just need some gear advice. Not sure if I have all the gear shown on the website

Minus fixing the gear issues this is my current set up for fleet one and fleet two

I put Saratoga in dorm for now until she is leveled up

[split storm]

@minor adder the important thing is survival. If the ship survives you grinding good oil efficiency levels, it’s good enough.

I would put 23 on the outside and 46 on the inside, since 23 has way higher levels.

Middle vanguard position is most protected so put the squishiest one in the middle.

[minor adder]

OK I’ll fix it in a minute but what do you think about the gear since I’ve changed so many units around?

I’ve only taken the gear off some but not all of the Vanguard ships I was using, mainly just taking gear off all of the fleet, except for the one iron blood unit. Other than that I need to fix the gear situation with all the other units I’ve changed out in those two fleets.

I’ll still mess with the formation set up in just a moment but this is the current gear situation that needs to be addressed before I start grinding out the Vanguard ships

I’m fairly certain that I’ve taken all of the gear off the ships that I switched out and are not using for this step. However, now I just need to reapply the gear in certain ways.

by the way, I did flip-flop those two units just now and I did raise the one by about five levels using the boost. Also, this is what I currently have my dorm situated as.

just let me know if you guys have any advice on what gear to use now on those characters that I swapped out. I still left the gear on the ones that I’m still using for now

[split storm]

I’m pretty sure leveling up gear to lvl 10 is better than leveling up both to level 8

Warspite doesn’t have any gear on

Wait, most of your ships have no gear. Put gear on them

[minor adder]

well, I’m not sure which to put on which ship that’s the thing. do I need to take a picture of my gear again?

[split storm]

Follow gear recommendations in the tier list site and or with samhearts gear guide. Just use the best you have.

[split storm]

Bruh, I’m not going to dress up everyone of your ships. You’re exhausting if you think people are wanting to play the game for you.

[minor adder]

I’ll do my best and I might have questions later but I’ll have to wait till I’m on my break because I can’t do that and flip back-and-forth on my phone very easily

Not sure if you have any suggestions for any of the gear. I posted earlier if I need to craft any of it

[split storm]

I’m not looking at your depot of gear.

[minor adder]

Should I craft any of these at all? Just curious

[split storm]

[minor adder]

Not sure what that emoji or sticker means

I might have more questions later once I’m on my break and get a chance to look at the website

[minor adder]

I understand it’s just a lot of information and sometimes it’s confusing. I will look at the website when I get a chance but I still might have some additional questions later.

[minor adder]

The other reason I can’t look at the website on here is because I’m still a little confused how to bookmark something on an iPhone and come back to it later I still haven’t quite figured it out

[split storm]

please google "how to bookmark something on iphone"

[sturdy haven]

since u have 1 golden hellcat use these

[sturdy haven]

this on owari

[sturdy haven]

yeah also before going past +10 ask or consult the table of priorities

[split storm]

the build difference between ships of the same hull type varies very little from ship to ship... it varies more from armor type of enemy

[sturdy haven]

seeing this is kinda pain

[split storm]

at your stage, don't go past +10 for months until you understand. I think it would be better you understand why you prioritize +13 before you just get told what to do

[sturdy haven]

he will be spamming 12-1 to unlock agir so any minimal effort should be enough

[split storm]

whoops my bad @sturdy haven , I thought I was helping you instead of vdruid

[sturdy haven]

for 12-1 only main gun is important since he will be using 110+ ships right ? no need for aa although i know it is kinda intense

[minor adder]

Ifinally got enough Op Si items to craft one piece of SSR gear. Just trying to figure out which one to craft. I know one of my possible options is the Prototype XF5U. Which I did see as a recommended piece of gear on one or more ships

But can currently only craft one piece and that is it. So need to figure out which is the best option if I do craft any of the ones I am now able to

Another example is the Experimental XSB3C-1, but will have to check the site

I had to scroll up quite a ways to find the link you posted. I decided on crafting one of these for now and I’m assuming I should probably craft more when I get more resources.

[split storm]

Take the fleet you’re in and work on better gear one slot at a time.

That said, flap jacks are good.

Carriers need a lot of good gear to be good. Battle ships in general are easier (cheaper) to gear.

[severe charm]

flapjacks and golddivers are all sus and junk. junkers D4 is what you want

[minor adder]

https://tenor.com/view/pancakes-gif-3092495344425623850

[minor adder]

I am seeing varying opinions again here

[severe charm]

then you will need to decide on your own. or ask for more information and reasoning

[minor adder]

So I am noticing. I guess also no one got my GIF joke/pun?

[minor adder]

Since I’m one away from crafting another, but the game won’t show me where to get the blueprints for it where do you get blueprints to be able to craft this item?

Currently at 24 out of 25

[severe charm]

research

[split storm]

Torpedo planes do more damage than fighters and so are more important than fighters for an account.
Flap jacks are among the best fighters, but fighters are the least important for boss damage.