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[fluid lance]

I'll send a pic of teams now

[elfin knot]

gears for them also

[rich mural]

100% gear issue

Ship positioning could Use some work as well though

[analog haven]

show equipment

[lusty sinew]

eugen should be tanking not shimakaze, for future reference left is tank, middle is sandwich and right is off tank

[rich mural]

It's gonna be shit if that's failing in 10-1

[analog haven]

that mob fleet should not be having problems, and i can see how that boss vang can leak in suicides

[lusty sinew]

thats way better than the stuff i had back then

[rich mural]

Go read Sam's guide in #bot-spam /equip

[lusty sinew]

+0 equips

[urban parrot]

considering that 10-1 boss is the suicide board congo

you're probably gonna want triple BBs for that boss

[rich mural]

They don't

What they need is better gear and to enhance it

[analog haven]

also show what equip inventory you have and show the equips buildable from research

theres a lot to replace there

[urban parrot]

well the CAs aren't dying at least

despite the shit gears

[analog haven]

the ships themselves are far stronger than what i had to work with but equip really does need to be fixed

[rich mural]

And this is why equips are more important than ship choice

[fluid lance]

The gear guide is kinda of hard to read

[rich mural]

Gimme a few minutes to regear this

[analog haven]

also show the craftable menu the ones ready to craft we may be able to get some good stuff from there, the button next to gear lower right

[fluid lance]

There

[analog haven]

the blue gears too, we can use blue steering gear/camo and 76mm too

[fluid lance]

All blue stuff

[rich mural]

I'm aware some of this you don't have, mainly the 4 Tenzens and an additional 120mm

so try and open some more tech boxes to get them

also enhance your gear

[fluid lance]

Ok

[rich mural]

plus 6 for transitional stuff, +10 for stuff you'll be using well into the mid and late game

[fluid lance]

Transitional are blue gears?

[analog haven]

some purple too

the 120 is transitional until you have better dd guns for example

[elfin knot]

also b/w shells from the core shop

[fluid lance]

I need lots of coins for enhancing

[elfin knot]

it's one of the reason x- 4 stages are better than x-1

[fluid lance]

I used core shop for core srs but since i buyed all i may use core for gears now

[elfin knot]

these btw #bot-spam message

[rich mural]

well that was a waste of 4500 core data

[elfin knot]

only ship you now want to get from there or ideally ever was independence,but she can wait till you have atleast 2 pair of the both shells

[fluid lance]

Funny enough i was planning to get her after the srs haha

For looks

[elfin knot]

type 1 ap and super heavy

not the yellow ones

[fluid lance]

These but in purple version?

[elfin knot]

that gold white is the higher rarity of white purple yes

[fluid lance]

So should i buy the white or not i got 800 core

[analog haven]

yes

[elfin knot]

don't get this, other two yes: 2 pairs

[analog haven]

you'll use the white more on the long run. you somtimes drop black shells when you research your hpfcr

but white shells stick around

yellow one is like a mild upgrade only ships like hood monarch and vanguard, and they work just fine with white shell

so only when you are super rich on core can you consider buying yellow shell

[fluid lance]

Anything worth from here?

[analog haven]

tenzan

[elfin knot]

eh

champy

[analog haven]

try to get 2 of those as soon as yu can

champy you can get when you get around to pr3, but you can also pick those up and they are worthwhile

champy x3 then grab 2 tenzans still will work

[elfin knot]

you try to get most of tenzan bps from research then buy the remaining from here if you want, but get 3 champys then

[analog haven]

3 champys first, then tenzan yeah

[fluid lance]

champys?

[rich mural]

literally all the PR3 ships are coinable and all the gear in the lab

there's 0 reason to research focus PR3 these days

[fluid lance]

I wonder how i got here should i open these?

[analog haven]

the stuff you want are in sakura tech boxes, also eagle union and royal

[fluid lance]

Ok

[analog haven]

(tenzan) sakura, (bofors) eagle union, (120mm) royal

[fluid lance]

76 i should get one at least

[elfin knot]

[fluid lance]

Which should i recycle

I need space

[elfin knot]

there's a safe to scrap guide in /equip

[fluid lance]

Ok

[elfin swallow]

You can safely dismantle those cranes (Ship Maintenance) that you've got up to +8 and +5, and use the money/plates elsewhere, you will never need those things and will get plenty of BPs for more if someday you want one for some reason.

As a general rule of thumb at the start, don't ever equip anything that isn't at least +6 (ideally +10). Early on, you will have a shortage of purple plates, but that disappears pretty quickly for all but the purple aux plates.

[fluid lance]

Ok

[fluid lance]

Alright i did this now i need blue general blueprints for auxiliary gear and some tenzans and a twin 120mm

[fluid lance]

Question people told me to retrofit unicorn bcs she is better than perseus

[elfin knot]

yeah uni is miles better than percy

what about it?

[fluid lance]

I mean i have her at lv 70 currently at max retrofit upg i have so when should i replace perseus with her

When she level 90 and is modernized?

[elfin knot]

80 will do but ok

they both will use the same gear

[fluid lance]

Ok so should i with the new gear try to enter 10-2.... Or should i simply grind for while 9-4

[elfin knot]

with the proper gears upgraded you'll have much better chance to clear it now

so go ahead

[fluid lance]

I mean i need like 4 tenzans still but well if i see i'm getting blasted i'll just quit

[elfin knot]

[fluid lance]

Even tho chap 10 looks easier than chap 15 💀

[elfin knot]

it's easier, you just don't have the gears

you can try with +6 poverty plane in those empty slots

[fluid lance]

Which is mob and which is boss

[elfin knot]

the one with healer is mob

you have to move around some ships btw

[fluid lance]

Healer?

[elfin knot]

yeah percy

[fluid lance]

Ohhh

[elfin knot]

bremerton to boss as main tank(left most ship)

guam in mob as main tank

[elfin knot]

that works

im not sure how tanky unzen is so whelp

but 10-1 it should be more than fine

your ships really had no problems, they're all over leveled

it was the gears

[fluid lance]

I passed 10-1 lol with the horrible gear

10-2 is coming to haunt me

[elfin knot]

that'll do gl

[fluid lance]

It is level 98 the BOSS of 10-2?

[elfin knot]

yeah

you can check wiki for these info ^

[fluid lance]

Stella is in pain ;v; she is level 97 has half life left

[elfin knot]

percy bad

what is killing her btw

planes?

[fluid lance]

Yes planes my worst enemy and I saw they swarm you in later stages

[elfin knot]

you can try with the circle formation

[rich mural]

Planes aren't the issue

Throw a fire extinguisher on her

That'll help deal with the burns that are likely killing her

[elfin knot]

i didnt know about the burns mb

[fluid lance]

Fire?

Wait a sec... Is not just visual effects...

[rich mural]

no....

those burns/fires actually do DOT

[fluid lance]

Oh god...

[fluid lance]

I forgot formations exists but BOSS was kinda easy ngl

[elfin knot]

its easy really, uni retro will make your mob much better

gj clearing it tho

[fluid lance]

Ok so when uni is level 80 exchange with percy

But it should be fine for chapter 10 right

[elfin knot]

that and better gears

11-1 has more exp than others so you can level some ships there once you make it safe

12 is better since you get cogs tho

the difficulty only ramps up from 13 so dw

[rich mural]

just don't

Perseus is already 119

just keep using her till W12

you can make the change then

[fluid lance]

Ok

[fluid lance]

So i can like get to chapter 12 with this?

[elfin knot]

yeah

[fluid lance]

should i even pull in the war archive northern parliament rate up?

[elfin knot]

it's not announced yet but most likely gona be a ur and if so then yeah

you'd need atleast 400 cubes for the pity

[fluid lance]

lets hope we dont need to get to the pity lmao

[fluid lance]

at least im beating 10-2 easily now ty all

[elfin knot]

it should get better with better gear, gl again

[fluid lance]

question what is the current most poweful UR ship

[rich mural]

define most powerful

[fluid lance]

most useful UR for majority of game (pve mostly)

[rich mural]

that's still a question without an easy answer

because very few of the URs overlap in use case

put a gun to my head and I'd probably say Bismarck Zwei

but really you you'd be using URs and other ships in conjunction with each other

and it's not like you're gonna be able to get your hands on most of these ships anytime soon

[fluid lance]

well technically every year a bunch ships launch and for a rerun is at least 2 years

and i guess most ships will get left behind by a better one

[rich mural]

yes and that's my point

reruns are 2 years+ at this point in terms of turnaround time

and new URs are always being released

the meta is constantly changing

so trying to plan out which URs you're gonna try and get 2 years in advance is ultimately pointless

[fluid lance]

and will probably do until the end of the game lifespan...

so i guess that question wont get answered

[rich mural]

it won't

and really it doesn't need an answer

[fluid lance]

ok btw how much dock space is actually needed tbh i mean i spend gems on pure skins

[rich mural]

depends on what type of player you are

I'm currently sitting at 732 dock space, 3rd dorm slot, and the 2nd floor

[fluid lance]

i collect srs and urs but i also want main campaign full completion thats mostly it and i like some elites

[rich mural]

if you're fine with culling ships somewhere around 400 is probbly fine then

[fluid lance]

I need 4.2k gems oof btw what's more priority dorm slots, tactical slots or rings (for oath stat boost)

[rich mural]

you don't oath ships for the stat boost unless you're a mega whale

the 6% stat boost is negligable overall and if you're gonna oath for stats you're gonna want to oath all the main fleets in relevant boss comps

Tactical Slots I wouldn't get period

and really both dock and dorm slots have more or less equal priority

you're not F2P are you

[fluid lance]

I buyed Guam and Shinano Skin thats all payed for?

40 usd

But ye i'm not f2p anymore

But i will then just oath the ones with skins ngl

[rich mural]

well you get 4.2k gems total roghly as a F2P

plus around 1k additional gems annually

so that should take care of dorm slots and dock space

[fluid lance]

That if i didnt spend some in skins.... TvT but i'll buy the dock space i guess but how much dorm slots is the optimal

General Help to beat Chapter 10 to 12

[rich mural]

depends

I usually reccomend 3rd slot and 2nd floor

[fluid lance]

Ok

How much gems is 2nd floor i use the dorm currency for customization

[rich mural]

500 gems

[fluid lance]

Ok btw when do i have to worry about pr and dr ships?

I'm currently doing Roon

[rich mural]

they're a relatively low priority until you reach W12

once you do you can really start focusing on it

[fluid lance]

Alright with luck i do it before march

[fluid lance]

10-3 relatively easy but why does i have to play it 4 times for completion ;v;

[rich mural]

Because the devs decided so

[fluid lance]

What stage it becomes 5 times for 1 single stage?

[rich mural]

It depends

It's not the same number of clears for each map in each world

[fluid lance]

I guess i just lb normal bismarck and unlocked to dev agir for when i get to w 12

[fluid lance]

I got to 10-4 and also hit commander level 80

[fluid lance]

Well ty all if i get stuck i'll just come ask for help

[fluid lance]

Hello i have a question are the limited skins that end today worth buying?

[rich mural]

Completely personal preference

[fluid lance]

Ok i mean since i thought l2ds have like the most value