Can’t clear 14-3 properly

[graceful vale]

My mob fleet is

Musashi, Aquila, Unicorn,
Guam, Laffy II, Plymouth

Boss fleet is
Bismarck Zwei, Yorktown II, Volga,
Brest, Sandy (Retrofit), Jeanne

I notice that for mob fleet, the backline dies before clearing all the mob fleets

For the boss fleet, the ramming ships rush to the backline too quickly and sinks Yorktown II, so i’m stuck getting A rank on the boss as well

I’m trying to use a working Chap 15 fleet to clear Chap 14 so i don’t have to redo my fleet again later for chap 15

[small wasp]

here is a thing

w15 need AA but you don't need ships with good AA in w14

so that's not really how it's work

[graceful vale]

I heard that if i have all the right ships, including UR ships, and maxed BP. Any working chap 15 fleet will work for chap 14

[small wasp]

also

1. put anti- sub aux like hedgehog on your vg
2. don't touch the light tower thingy I forgot the name thanks to my scuffed english

you can replace Guam with another DD like Shimakaze if you want to

double DD work for w14 mobbing

[old hound]

mob:
BisZwei w/ certificate - Volga - Unikai (keep ASW plane)
Laff-ii (keep Hedgehog gear) - Sandy/Shimanto dev30 - Guam

works in w15, w14 a lil' bit doubtful since guam is chonky

[small wasp]

and you probably want to change sandy on your boss fleet as well

[small wasp]

for Boss Agir Jeanne Unzen is better

assuming you have Unzen

[graceful vale]

Yes i do

[small wasp]

unzen also great on mob

you can put her on both

but Brest is kinda a meh option

Agir has better synergy with your BBs

[small wasp]

for mob FdG also much superior than Musashi

mob is just a daily breakfast for her

or even ship like Marco Pollo

[graceful vale]

Hmm are we trying to make a chap 15 fleet that works for chap 14 as well? Or are we just making a chap 14-3 fleet specifically?

[graceful vale]

For which fleet?

[graceful vale]

This happens even with hedgehog on laffy II and ABM-3 on unicorn

[graceful vale]

What certificate aux are you referring to?

[radiant iron]

Are you trying to 3 star or just simple clear ?

[graceful vale]

3 star

[radiant iron]

You can run Fdg/Unicorn/Volga-Aquila Felix-Laffey 2/Shima/Shimanto

[graceful vale]

If its not easy to make a working chap 15 fleet that works on chap 14 then ill just give up and make two separate fleets

[radiant iron]

I easily cleared with that just reminder to use your subs on ooa fights to make it much easier

[graceful vale]

What are AOA fights?

[radiant iron]

ooa* out of ammo

Guam's crossfleet barrage is also excellent to deal with suicide boats so you can run her on your bossfleet

You can also ditch 2nd healer for something with more damage like UvH or shinano

[graceful vale]

Hmm, which would be better?

I have them all built

[radiant iron]

UvH is fine

[graceful vale]

Any notable gears to attach on everyone?

[radiant iron]

sec

Can run something like this for vanguard

if you have a 2nd plygun then use it on felix

wait nvm uvh kinda dog for 3 star

Run shinano

Run Fdg/Shinano/Unicorn with this vanguard

457 + fire radar on fdg, everything else is standard 1000x lb/tenrai/wyvern on shinano and 1000xlb/wyvern on uni

[graceful vale]

Uni doesnt need TBM 3 for ASW?

[radiant iron]

not really with shinano asw boost, + 2 dd and 2 asw on vanguard

You can run it if you want but it's not necessary

[graceful vale]

I see, how about boss fleet?

[radiant iron]

Something like Bis2/UvH/Yk2 Guam/JdA/Unzen-Hinden-Ply should be free

boss is light so run he gear

[graceful vale]

Hmm i don’t have felix so i improvised and it works

[graceful vale]

But why should we not touch the light tower thingy?

[old hound]

they prob mean the lighthouse

in which case you could either take it, or not

in my clears, i took the lighthouse and did fine

thing is, lighthouse helps with decreasing enemy concealment

but is a double edged sword because the decrease might happen on ships you don't want to be unconcealed

[graceful vale]

I see

[old hound]

o wait. nvm

i was describing flares

lighthouse decreases the concealement of EVERYONE on the enemy side

[gusty oyster]

the thing is our sides concealment can be regained but the enemies can't

and using flare will make your backline target random things, if you don't time it well it's just dps lost