Chapter 13 fleet idea or challenge mode fleet

[obsidian current]

I can raise the level of other ships over time

[steady cradle]

13-4 hard?

[obsidian current]

13-3

[steady cradle]

hard?

[obsidian current]

No the normal one since I can't complete the clear all enemies condition

[steady cradle]

k

no san diago?

o i blind

[obsidian current]

I got her retrofit level 117

[steady cradle]

unicorn?

[obsidian current]

level 100 retrofit

[steady cradle]

show me ur fighters

[steady cradle]

k hm

[maiden delta]

Mob: FDG, Unicorn, Klaudia, Adalbert, Laffey 2, Yuddachi
Boss: Zwei, NJ, Yorktown 2, Agir, San Diego, Unzen

quite a few interesting decisions I must say

[steady cradle]

thats wut am thingking of idk

[steady cradle]

his klaudia is only 77 man

[maiden delta]

yes and?

[steady cradle]

wut u expect a lv77 ship to do

on 13-3

[maiden delta]

I expect them to level her to 120

[obsidian current]

I like the fleet idea

[maiden delta]

and then tackle W13

[obsidian current]

I can level the 77 to 120

[steady cradle]

k good

[maiden delta]

also get your Enterprise and Helena leveled

[steady cradle]

i thoguht he want to do it rn

XD

[maiden delta]

and lock your ships please

[obsidian current]

I will Thank you

[obsidian current]

im so low on oil to even do them at the moment

[obsidian current]

I will

[vital mantle]

Above w12 there’s no reason to rush, so default is just rec good fleets with much more flexibility on levels

Plus, clearing takes a lot of oil

If you fail that stings

[obsidian current]

im currently at 43 oil

[steady cradle]

u have wyven?

[scenic fiber]

they dont

[steady cradle]

oof

br 810?

[steady cradle]

show all planes

[obsidian current]

i dont got either

[steady cradle]

only gold

[obsidian current]

bet

[maiden delta]

just follow Sam's gear guide in #bot-spam /equip

[vital mantle]

As for challenge mode… try unzen changchun and an Shan, backline Bismarck uvh and yorktown2 or nj

Might work

You’ll need to gear well anyhow

[obsidian current]

Thank you I'll try that

[vital mantle]

Actually nvm, do you have aurora?

Yeah I don’t think you’ll cut it,

Or you’ll need Helena luck and cut it quite close

[vital mantle]

Hm. Well you have an ok chance

Level up aurora

[steady cradle]

mob?

[obsidian current]

bet

[obsidian current]

That can work i got most of those equips

[maiden delta]

why is their best tank, Agir on mobbing, why Oxy Torp and AA Radar

why Swordfish at all

[steady cradle]

maybe he doesnt have good torp bomber

[maiden delta]

it's literally one of the worst options

they have more Barracudas right there

and a Ryussei and Saiun

[steady cradle]

bro u not using ryusei as mob bomber

[obsidian current]

I've only got 9 torp bombers

[maiden delta]

converging torp bombers when used correctly can be quite potent at mobbing

[steady cradle]

parallel for mobing

[maiden delta]

of course I'd prefer Ju-87ds and Rysseis and Saiuns are fine

[vital mantle]

That’s not quite true by the way

[maiden delta]

especially when the alternatives are Barracudas

[steady cradle]

u can try

idm

[vital mantle]

Parallel for mobbing, converging for bossing. It’s said quite often but really not a good theorem

[maiden delta]

Skyraider is not good for W13, 13-4 esepcially and they only have one F4u Pirtate and they shouldn't be going for more

[rich nebula]

Especially if Boss moving all over the place

[maiden delta]

I don't know why Adalbert is boss tanking over Agir

or why Yuddachi is bossing over Unzen

or Sandy

[steady cradle]

f4u for aa

[vital mantle]

You seem to have a fairly good understanding. Some things could be better though

[maiden delta]

they only have one

[steady cradle]

maybe unzen is for mobing

[rich nebula]

iirc i even use Cheshire for W13 mob fleet tank

[maiden delta]

what does that even mean

[steady cradle]

he dont have cheshire

[maiden delta]

why are you putting the stronger AA ship in the mob fleet when by far in a way the boss has the biggest plane threat

[rich nebula]

Oh

[maiden delta]

this doesn't make sense

[rich nebula]

Portland retrofit for mob tank i guess (?)

[steady cradle]

unzen less health

so alberta

[maiden delta]

I wasn't referring to you with that statement

[steady cradle]

he want clear all mob

[vital mantle]

You misunderstand. Boss is the bigger threat here so we try to make that fleet have Sandy and agir and unzen instead

[maiden delta]

HP is not the only deciding factor for eHP and this isn't about Unzen vs Adalbert, it's about Agir over Adalbert

[rich nebula]

Sorry i forgot to reply to @steady cradle ow

[maiden delta]

that's irrelevant if the boss fleet doesn't clear

and Adalbert is perfectly capable of surviving for all mobs

[steady cradle]

ok

[rich nebula]

Adalbert is good?
I thought she good only in bed 😏😂

[steady cradle]

wait he has volga

😮

[rich nebula]

Anyways

[maiden delta]

yes...

[rich nebula]

Unzen for boss? Isn’t she squishy

[obsidian current]

volga is only 38 for now 🥲

[maiden delta]

she's off tanking not main tanking, she'll be fine with proper leveling and gearing

[rich nebula]

I assume you playing manual ?

[obsidian current]

I do

[rich nebula]

Ohhh
Seems possible

[steady cradle]

u will need her for w14 and w15

[vital mantle]

Fyi since you brought up Portland, you can consider her and unzen to be about same level (maybe slightly better tankiness wise here but a worse ship )

[obsidian current]

Alright I'll level her up as well

[vital mantle]

Need is a strong word but she is good

[maiden delta]

not that you'll be tackling W14 or W15 anytime soon

[rich nebula]

Portland bing chilling since she mob fleet and has healer
Unzen…
Yeah, worse

[vital mantle]

We’re not using Portland here at all though…

[rich nebula]

Oh sorry

Aldalbert right?

Ok ok

👌

[steady cradle]

am saying je wil need volga for future

[maiden delta]

probably Laffey 2 actually

[steady cradle]

so leveling volga up is worth it4

[rich nebula]

Maybe coz i use portland for mob in my runs
Anyways

[flat summit]

Level up all your healers as a general rule because they heal differently enough to be worth it, except perseus

[obsidian current]

My experience with portland she was helpful for doing w12

[maiden delta]

I can assure you there will be no need for all of Unicorn, Perseus, Ryuuhou, Painleve, Shouhou, Klaudia, Aquila, and Volga

[rich nebula]

Perseus still good for W13…
Right??? 💀

[maiden delta]

Unicorn retro is just better than her

[vital mantle]

Both being preload healers, you are not going to use both of them

[vital mantle]

^

[maiden delta]

this makes even less sense

[steady cradle]

i just want him to have one elss ship to level up

actually

nvm

lets go balanz

[rich nebula]

Belfast making it based on phantom’s shipgirls’ level?

Phantom needs to level up ships

[maiden delta]

I don't even know at this point

[rich nebula]

😂😂😂

[vital mantle]

By the by, the 90mm AA is good

Also yeah that’s a significantly worse set of fleet and gearing. Sorry for not posting my own though

[steady cradle]

i assume he dont have

cause i dont think he do

ik 90mm is better

[rich nebula]

Is Phantom rushing story or bing chilling?
Coz tbh, he can just go farm at 12-4 then attack W13 later

[steady cradle]

true

[obsidian current]

Maybe a bit of both mostly chilling

[vital mantle]

Look, just farm and level the better ships

[steady cradle]

ive not do 13-4 ever after i cleared it

its still on hard

XD

[vital mantle]

There’s no rush, w12 is where people farm normally even in endgame

There’s no bonus in clearing later worlds earlier

[rich nebula]

Recommended ships are very very very effective in W13- just level them up and W13 will be a breeze

[maiden delta]

the bigger issues really are equips

[rich nebula]

W12 is intro to plane hell
W13 is mid hell

[maiden delta]

really +10 minimum on all gear by the time you get to W13

[steady cradle]

idk wut he has tho

[vital mantle]

I do see a rikka

[steady cradle]

am on minimun like the most normal ones

[obsidian current]

Definitely once I did w13 one of my fleet completely got destroyed and the other barely survived

These are the equips I got

[rich nebula]

Phantom?
How do you want to clear W13:
The meta way?
The normal way?
Or the meme way?

😂

[obsidian current]

You know the meme way sounds fun

[rich nebula]

😂

[vital mantle]

Just quick fyi, that advanced sonar gold asw gear is bad

[rich nebula]

Nah
We can talk about it later
Focus on leveling ships and getting equipment for now

[obsidian current]

I've had most equips used so the spare I used for some stats

[obsidian current]

I will thank you

[steady cradle]

show me all bb cannon

[steady cradle]

meme way = shimakaze unzen jintsu

[maiden delta]

something like that

[obsidian current]

Ooo I'll try it thank you

These mostly been my 2 fleets I used

[maiden delta]

remember, +10 gear

[maiden delta]

yeah no wonder they failed

on top of bad ships AA is nonexistent

[vital mantle]

Is that even superiority

Oh well

[maiden delta]

considering there's only 2 CVs and one of them is Hiyo....

[rich nebula]

This is good right? Just give to AA-specific shipgirls

[maiden delta]

no

[steady cradle]

for sandiago maybe

[vital mantle]

No.

[vital mantle]

Double no

[rich nebula]

Eh?

[vital mantle]

Well…
Maybe.

[obsidian current]

Yea especially the iron blood

[vital mantle]

But don’t use it if something isn’t dying

[obsidian current]

So I swap it to this after

[maiden delta]

the only use I've had for it is sticking on low level main fleets to help them survive W12/W13 when leveling them

[rich nebula]

Demn
4 URs

[steady cradle]

laf no need repair tool because laf has her special dmg reduction

[vital mantle]

“Clun castle” suggested fleets to you. Use those

[maiden delta]

dead ships don't do damage

and why take risks

[steady cradle]

it doesnt make her much tankier

only a lil bit

so oo

[vital mantle]

You could argue it’s even better on her vs other dds

[obsidian current]

I mostly used it for mob fleets

[flat summit]

the repair tool heal is really good for laffeii though

[vital mantle]

Since it does a little regen. But admittedly she shouldn’t die

[rich nebula]

Laffey 2: i’M bUiLt DiFfErEnT
😂💀😂

[steady cradle]

not rly

[vital mantle]

Yeah I shouldn’t have said that.

aight have fun i'm leaving this convo to do some reading

[obsidian current]

I could give Laffey 2 the goldburn

[maiden delta]

have fun

[obsidian current]

Sure see ya

[rich nebula]

Happy reading

[obsidian current]

Imma work on leveling up ships and looking at the fleet recommendations thank you everyone

[steady cradle]

np :3

[maiden delta]

did you even get 13-4 down to safe

[rich nebula]

Slowly but surely

[rich nebula]

The X factor question 💀

[obsidian current]

All I see is lethal i havent made it to 13-4 only came as far to 13-3

[maiden delta]

get them down to safe if you're having trouble 3 starring still after the changes

[maiden delta]

and ignore this guy's fleet reccs

[obsidian current]

I will

[steady cradle]

i didnt

[steady cradle]

u can try i put the special aix for bis on her which mean u get less debuff when u out of ammo

idk

try do it without 3 starting first

like clear it first

[maiden delta]

it would a waste of core data to get it given how much in terms of gear they're missing

[rich nebula]

Phantom

Basically:
-level up recommended ships
-farm decent gears
-play on manual if fleet is dying

Just ask here again if you other problems

[maiden delta]

and it's entirely unnecessary for W13

[rich nebula]

gtg too, oxygen break
Happy gaming Commanders of culture
🫡

[obsidian current]

I will thank you

[obsidian current]

See ya

[obsidian current]

I saw that although I'm low on core data currently

[steady cradle]

o nvm

focus on others

just get it to safe then 3 star ig