Help Make Fleet Op Siren

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Please help me create the ideal composition for Op Siren Thank you

[elder plume]

Put Brest in fleet 1, put ancho in fleet2, put agir in fleet 3 and you are good to go, should be good enough

You can put indep instead of Percy in mob fleet too

[fallen crater]

Is it necessary to show the entire ship if there are other recommendations listed?

[elder plume]

Sure, usually yes but the fleets I see here aren't bad

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I don't know if my buff level is still low or my ship composition is not strong enough, some time ago there was a boss who could increase his health and I couldn't beat him automatically

[elder plume]

Fleet 2 and 3 should beat it no problem

That sounds like a great issue

Maybe it's also an adapt issue

And I doubt that mob fleet can auto a stronghold

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I have all UR and SSR ships level 120 ( except PR 6) , is there anything that can be replaced from the ship composition above? too much to put a picture of

[elder plume]

I'd replace NJ for vanguard, replace anchorage for unzen/harbin , replace Percy for independence, replace richileu for fdg, and put a bunch of cross fleet in fleet 4

Then put Brest in fleet 1 and kron in fleet 2

And agir in fleet3

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I was just confused as to why I couldn't beat a boss who could add blood. At that time I don't remember the name of the boss, but he took out a shield and could add blood.

Sorry, I have a problem with English, so I used Google Translate

[elder plume]

Adapts or gear or mechanics (for example you used BB fleet when it can make shelling dmg 1)

[fallen crater]

Yes, I think I saw it at that time, my damage didn't come in, but my fleets 2 and 3 which are specifically for the boss were already used, leaving me with the 4th fleet and you can see for yourself that there was no damage there.

[mint kiln]

Low adapt is bad as is bad gear

[fallen crater]

Suggestions for that, what is the minimum for me to be able to beat the boss?

[mint kiln]

188

[elder plume]

And 203/203/156 for arbiter

[fallen crater]

Ahh, that seems to be the problem, I remember now I'm only between 110-140

[fallen crater]

sorry, can you make it a fleet?

like fleet 1 should be anyone and so on

[mint kiln]

It's also your gear, changing ships won't fix your gear.

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I usually look at other players' recommendations and don't know whether they are true or not

[mint kiln]

You will need to show it to find out

[fallen crater]

Okeh iwill send here

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sorry, do you need a screenshot of the whole thing? Or is it just the ship that is used?

[mint kiln]

Just fleet 2 and 3 for now

Do you remember what you were fighting besides that it had heal? Was it a CL, CV, etc?

[fallen crater]

is it the boss? I think it's BB?

@elder plume like this?

[elder plume]

That's what I would make but I have a bad reputation with fleets so id wait till someone approves it first

[elder plume]

Yea looking good

But the issue is less a fleet issue more a gear/adapt issue

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This picture really makes it easier for me, thank you

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Now that leaves Fleet 4, what about Sandy, does it need to be replaced?

[elder plume]

9/10 you ain't using fleet 4 so doesn't matter, just do whatever with it

I like putting cross fleets/ buffs there

[fallen crater]

OK, thanks again, that makes it easier for me , Now it's just weapons, I think there are some weapons that I don't have

[elder plume]

You can ask anything about gear

Not like any of the gear I sent is bis or even practical/cost effective

that ryuusei meme especially

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@elder plume sorry to bother you again, I want to ask about weapons, especially for BB, for light armor, is the twin 457 not better than the triple 406?

i have 3 of them? +13

[elder plume]

He is more universal in mob, and for boss armor mod varies, 457 isn't as good as champy due to helena

You can use 457 in mob, but the fleet will have harder time against light armor bosses

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ah sorry i mean for the medium / hard

this one

How about this? is it better to use 457?

[elder plume]

For musashi she wants sakura gun, for the rest 457 loses due to it being too fast for helena

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Helena's skill is 20s, right?

[elder plume]

16 first time with sg then 20 for rest of battle

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which means waiting for Helena to cast a skill, then BBs fires her gun?

[elder plume]

Yes, 457 can easily desync on 2nd or 3rd proc, but champy will never desync

Also 457 will make you use double shell, leading to less hitrate

[fallen crater]

for this time it is 20s+ , but mine is only 19s+ , does it matter?