#W13 hardmode help

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wintry relic
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I'll post my leveled ships first

reef briar
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I think you got enough to work with the the first few images

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But is this for W13 normal or Hard?

wintry relic
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normal first

reef briar
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Hmmm I would say retro Sandy but I think you should be fine if you gear is not bad

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Mob:
York 2, Uni, Indep
Cheshire Kazagumo Yuudachi

Boss:
Whatever UR BB, Nano, Haku
Anchor, Juneau, Ply

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I think this should work

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You got pretty good ships

wintry relic
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oh chesh enough to tank mobs?

reef briar
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Mine was

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And I had a worse setup

wintry relic
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any tips on how to manual it then?

spiral holly
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You can auto it

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Dw about that

reef briar
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You can safely auto it imo

spiral holly
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If your gear is good you should have no issues whatsoever. I think mob could use more aa though

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Oh well

reef briar
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For the Boss BB I would use either Zwei or Sashi but any UR BB should work

reef briar
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If he double Fighters his York II

wintry relic
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what aa gun should i use? i only have 3 sextuples

reef briar
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"only" EssexWheeze

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I didn't have any when I beat W13

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But I guess both Chesh and Juneau should have one

wintry relic
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which fighters should i use on boss setup

reef briar
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The best ones you got I guess UniSip

wintry relic
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so like tigercats?

reef briar
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That works

wintry relic
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okay thanks

wintry relic
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damn 13-1 was a lot easier than last time i tried MutsukiHyperStare

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anything i need to change if i manage to get to hardmode?

reef briar
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probably yes

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I haven't done it yet

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So you might need someone else's help

wintry relic
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alright thanks for your help

wintry relic
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W13 hardmode help

spiral holly
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Have you tried it yet?

wintry relic
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on 13-2 now

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going pretty smoothly

reef briar
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For Hardmode @thorn swan might be able to help UniSip

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Sorry for ping

thorn swan
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Gimme a few minutes

reef briar
wintry relic
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yeah last time i tried, i had to use illus to try to get more fighters since the planes werent dying :/

spiral holly
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here's what I used for w13h as an example.

thorn swan
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Mob: aquila, independence, Unicorn, Plymouth, Kazagumo, Juneau

spiral holly
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idk about w15, but that's way harder

thorn swan
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Boss: Musashi, shinano, Haku, anchorage, scylla, cheshire

reef briar
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Double AA for Boss Noteshiro

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Taihou hits like a truck it seems

spiral holly
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your backline will get swamped. honestly musashi can die on boss

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with wyverns and aa you can avoid that

thorn swan
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Yeah

spiral holly
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but still can die

thorn swan
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I recommend aa radar on her for good measure

wintry relic
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okay i just need level scylla then Noteshiro

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any tips on manualing?

thorn swan
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This is for auto

spiral holly
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by default offered fleets will be for auto

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nobody really builds for manual

wintry relic
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do i just use musashi gun for musashi?

thorn swan
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No

wintry relic
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then which one Thinkpitz

spiral holly
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for w13-4h, 457mm (UR) georgia gun is optimal

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there's like of the bosses that's light armor or something iirc, use he on that one

wintry relic
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the gun from nj event?

spiral holly
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nah that's the 406 mk7

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georgia gun is research series 2 AP twin 457mm mark A gun

wintry relic
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oh i meant for the he gun

spiral holly
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oh yeah. for musashi probably still use the 410 kai

wintry relic
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wb for cv, change to rockets?

spiral holly
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the enhanced barrage on her is just too important

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honestly no clue about light armour stuff on cvs, back when I did it i was too lazy to swap and just used ap too hah

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13-4 taihou is really the hardest

wintry relic
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do i need use aa radars for her then

spiral holly
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on musashi? probably, what with your gear and probably overall weaker fleets musashi has a high chance of dying

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I did fine, but even with all that rainbow gear and wyverns and UR AA I still got to around 40% health sometimes, without it was kind of risky

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i was using biszwei though, who'd do better

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you had some oldtimers here who definitely failed their first attempts

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without naming anyone

wintry relic
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i have 1 ur aa gun, could make another one if needed

spiral holly
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as for w15... I admittedly haven't touched it yet, but that's w13h^2

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even the top fleets with the oldest and richest players still aren't guaranteed clears, (variable performance), resets are sometimes necessary

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though there are some that can still be quite consistent

spiral holly
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you can try it out, I'm pretty sure you'll see your musashi getting close to dying