W 15 help

[native thicket]

@chrome ledge

[dark tusk]

yea i see some mistakes here

[hollow cliff]

Yep, quite a few

[dark tusk]

i just dont think DMG CVs are the play in W15

they're perma revealed

[gaunt phoenix]

yikes Skyraider + Tenrai shinano
That sounds slow af

[dark tusk]

being slow isnt the largest problem

it's poor AA

and shinano isnt much utility

i guess 4 wyverns is at least good AA

[north rivet]

sushi gun is unusable on her

[hollow cliff]

Not unusable but a poor choice for 99.9% of scenarios

[chrome ledge]

doesnt show on my phone, lol maybe now it will after sneidn this message

i still dont see it, i odnt know how show my feet without seeing this on my phone

[gaunt phoenix]

congrats, you found the thread

[chrome ledge]

from my comptuer

not on my phone

[gaunt phoenix]

How

have you tried finding the hastag at the top?

[chrome ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1165465334988427304/image0.png?ex=6546f32d&is=65347e2d&hm=eade96e31894faf385d65beda4811bb427d14c582b56b396662ad27dca68b651&
this is all i see on my phone still

[plain bluff]

There, that's how you do it on your phone

[plain bluff]

Look at my image

the left one

[gaunt phoenix]

ᴳᵒᵈ ʰᵒʷ ᵗʰᵉ ʰᵉˡˡ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢ ˢᵗᶦˡˡ ᵃ ᶦˢˢᵘᵉ

[hushed lily]

Yeah is see the thread

[chrome ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1165469718614917170/image0.png?ex=6546f742&is=65348242&hm=e4cd3f39035a3c03064285957da38869028aa86e785551e82486d788820f4584&
this is my phone display on gameplay help there is no exta hashtag when i click the left top stuff it does not do anything to let me see this channel, i doono how show ships on my phone if my phone cant show this channel

[vocal steeple]

what does the drop-down arrow next to “gameplay help” do

on the right

of gameplay help

[chrome ledge]

all i see is this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1165472630644670515/image0.png?ex=6546f9f8&is=653484f8&hm=e5d5032c7026602479681e1d7a44458fd001a03ff11e173e05ba8df41ea61a6b&
( i have to respond to the gameplay help cuz i cant see this chat on my phone)\

[hushed lily]

Curious, you using iPhone / Android, and is the discord app on your mobile updated to the latest version?

[chrome ledge]

it should be, shoulkdnt it update on its own?

[hushed lily]

shrug some folks have it on never update and stuff. The main possibility that you can't see it is either an outdated app, or a very specific phone OS/ Launcher - app conflict

[dark tusk]

mine neveer did

[chrome ledge]

It’s on this phone ok let’s get started

[dark tusk]

timings are subject to several things*

i suspect my CVs are too fast and causing some issues

[gaunt phoenix]

I wonder, why that DD gun for Musashi's 2nd slot

[dark tusk]

brunhilde gun is probably fine

155kai is not good

155 kai 90% whiffs all the fireboats

[hollow cliff]

Regular 155 seemed to work fine

[dark tusk]

it's long range and comparable dps to plygun so

it's actually 5 more range then 155kai

[gaunt phoenix]

[gaunt phoenix]

Ships

• FdG kinda sucks for W15
• Surely you have better options for CVs than Sarat0ga
• Shima works ig since this is mob
• Cheshire works too ig since AA carry

Gear

• Backliners want STAAG/Haze aloooooot more than regular AA guns, especially FdG who needs as much HIT as she can get
• Give Shima the Blue Twin 76mm since it fires faster
• +13 Rainbow Quint mags... yikes I cant imagine how many +13 plates those costed
• AA radar is a meme aux

[dark tusk]

he said assume all ships, blaster

that he has all ships

I dont think shima works

Rice tried her on 13h, w15 is prob even worse

[hollow cliff]

Why do you keep posting SS of gear

[dark tusk]

he's posting what he tried

[chrome ledge]

I was told to post the ships and gear I used and not a he

[dark tusk]

i mean yea

[dark tusk]

do you have max tech

or BB/CV rld at least

[chrome ledge]

And the comment about rainbow torp… but ya I got everything cept 15-4 ship obviously

Unless there something I don’t know it’s maxed to my knowledge

[hollow cliff]

we mean fleet tech

[chrome ledge]

I shown what I know I donno what yer asking

[hollow cliff]

Perma stat bonus from getting ships to 120

[chrome ledge]

No clue

[dark tusk]

if you click details, you can read the stats of each hull class

[hollow cliff]

so no then

[chrome ledge]

I got lots of 125 and 120 though

[dark tusk]

could you click on the details button on this screen and read your CV and BB rld

[chrome ledge]

Are you asking this ?

[dark tusk]

right

and CVs?

[chrome ledge]

Donno what one cv is

[dark tusk]

aircraft carrier

[chrome ledge]

You have to defeat the boss fleet with each fleet… I don’t see how you suppose to do that

[dark tusk]

the bosses are weaker than normal

@chrome ledge anyways

i dont claim to know boss fleet

[chrome ledge]

all my research ships are maxed cept the newest ones, like max luck bonus etc too

[dark tusk]

i see

but i really dont know what to put

[hollow cliff]

3rd boss main fleet I suspect kinda has to be a CV

[dark tusk]

that i know but i don't know which

i'm also leaning brest cheshire + 1

[chrome ledge]

what is bismark wei suppsoed be geared for ch 15?

[dark tusk]

either 457 or champy

[chrome ledge]

I spent 10k gold gearing these ships (kinda shocking I spent so much on another gear dump dispite what I have already ) and musashi gets 1/2 hp on manual off this one battle how are both fleets supposed to kill bosses?

[dark tusk]

i mean, you ran it with the same ships?

ill complete the boss fleet i guess

since you ran musashi back

[chrome ledge]

I didn’t … this was 10k gold of investment/ changes

[dark tusk]

mk7 wasnt it

[dark tusk]

give this a try

also, i spent like 120k gold on gear btwn 13h and W15

furthermore, the subs on light recon nodes will chunk CVs for 30-50% of their HP, musashi is still tanking a ton

the method for 15-3 boss is to make your mob fleet fight the first boss, tank the debuff, and let second fleet deal with second boss

the method for 15-4 boss, for me, was to have second fleet clear first and third bosses, and have mob fleet clear mobs + 2nd

[chrome ledge]

One fight ,.. with sub help on manual

[dark tusk]

that's because of alot of things about recon nodes

the fleet i suggested heals off recon nodes without subs

[chrome ledge]

I don’t understand, sorry

[dark tusk]

at least stays neutral

can you at least to reply to what you dont understand

[chrome ledge]

I doono why 130k since ch 13 is important I’m talking 10k plus all I had this is nuts

[dark tusk]

what

i just said how much i spent

that's all

[chrome ledge]

"that's because of alot of things about recon nodes
the fleet i suggested heals off recon nodes without subs"
this makes no sense to me and what im supposed to do and how it explains why i lost so much hp off one fight when you are supposed ot have 2 fleets attack bosses

[dark tusk]

"The fleet i suggested heals off recon nodes" means that when you fight on ammo, it's strong enough to heal instead of taking net damage

Recon nodes dealing so much damage is because of per-wave living time

if you leave some waves alive, they keep spawning more subs and sending more planes

if you clear waves in time, they kinda screenclear some of the planes

[chrome ledge]

-.- i dont know what this means, what does that have to do with my fleet? how do i heal in extra" recon mode" (what is "recond mode" this is so confusing

[dark tusk]

i said node, not mode

node is an enemy tile in the stage

recon fleets are a type of enemy ingame

[chrome ledge]

im spending so much time moving gear and making new gear its getting really frustating, so much so its like... i rather jsut wait for 3 fleet update

[dark tusk]

they'll never do that

i mean

you didnt even change comps yet right

what's with complaining about gear

[chrome ledge]

yes i did, i told you i spent 10k doing that and shown you the changes

[dark tusk]

comp refers to ship choices for a fleet

[dark tusk]

so when I posted this, the top 6 ships are their own fleet, and the bottom 6 are the second fleet

[chrome ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165464566696788109/1165513106676518973/AC1161CF-CEAA-4BE1-AC7B-C0F02CDD707F.png?ex=65471faa&is=6534aaaa&hm=3745004a89970ef9ed1e618df394627e3a4f8b6e4208bd4fde3e9e3d921f2822&

[dark tusk]

comp means composition

it's not just gear setup

[chrome ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165464566696788109/1165513137504665670/F492B82D-6D3C-4E63-B3CC-6E41CCB1ECA8.png?ex=65471fb2&is=6534aab2&hm=9f23f6bd76095461e529bef5f6be459619fd88b38d608b8ad3b839f9788e6c95&

these are new

[dark tusk]

alr

[chrome ledge]

why would you use a purple gun when i was told that rainbow gun at 13 was good with her with uh helana something about debuff timer or something

or is there some one else better for this?

[hollow cliff]

mobbong in W15 is a complteley different affair to bossing in like OpSi

[dark tusk]

i dont think anyone told you that today

triple 460 is a META fight only gun

[hollow cliff]

gear is always situationally dependent

[dark tusk]

Twin 410kai means that musashi will kill off the CV duos much faster

[chrome ledge]

do i have to use her then? i rahter not move gear around and use someone else then so i can leave her for meta killing

[hollow cliff]

gear presets exist for a reason

[dark tusk]

you cant be lazy with w15

jintm is light armor anyways

unless you mean zwei

[chrome ledge]

idk about "presets" they keep vanishing and its frustating

no i mean do i have to use mushasi can i use someone else? sould someone else be better?

and why hammann?

[hollow cliff]

Musashi when paired with the right fleet is the best mob flag for W15

Hammann 2 is there for her ASW, AA, ARA and Flag Cover skill

[chrome ledge]

oh okay .. what is that purple gun then im not even sure what that is

[dark tusk]

It's a gearlab upgrade of purple twin 410

[hollow cliff]

Twin 410mm Kai

[chrome ledge]

This? Upgrading the og hood gun?

[hollow cliff]

yes

it's not that much of an uograde but it's cheap and every bit helps

[chrome ledge]

whats her secondary? that is better then the 13 rainbow that i have?

[dark tusk]

it's not

if you have spare plygun, it's better

[chrome ledge]

so i got 2, 13s , it doesnt show the one she has on

but pythomth has her own if that is what your trying to imply asking

black shell over white for this?

[dark tusk]

black on mushy, white on zwei

[chrome ledge]

what fraction is "shmantio" i ran out of exp books she migth not be an option rn

[dark tusk]

you can swap w/ sandy

shimanto's role is AA carry

[chrome ledge]

sandy gear?

and who would be middle with the sandy subtitue

[dark tusk]

same as shimanto's but 100kai

sandy would stay middle

[chrome ledge]

100 kai is? i need a pciutre

[dark tusk]

rainbow dd gun

if you dont have it, then any twin 130 will do

[chrome ledge]

i made 3 of them

[dark tusk]

gud

[chrome ledge]

WHOOOOOOOOOO you kept my fake cat ❤️

[dark tusk]

well cheshire is strong

[chrome ledge]

brest is not vh plating?

[dark tusk]

Heavy armor has its own weaknesses

[chrome ledge]

i think i need a sub for jenne d ark if possable i dont remember what i got her to

[dark tusk]

could try unzen to try and clear faster

[hollow cliff]

especially in such a torp heavy environment

[chrome ledge]

unzen 109 atm

[dark tusk]

uhhh

then plymouth

[chrome ledge]

volga lv 116

[dark tusk]

that's not really bypassable

[chrome ledge]

is that critical? no shinano or something?

[hollow cliff]

you want the heals

[dark tusk]

klaudia works ok

[chrome ledge]

persus wont work?

[dark tusk]

0%

[hollow cliff]

I don't like Klaudia TBH as a sub

[dark tusk]

i also dont

worked better than enty in my fleets tho

[chrome ledge]

so 116 volga or 125 perious?

[hollow cliff]

just 120 volga

Perseus is just dead weight in any W15 fleet

[chrome ledge]

i dont have any more manuals, guess ill see if i can manual it 116 fn if not jsut have to wiat

is wayvern better then tyercat for yorktown II?

[dark tusk]

it could be, i dont rly imagine a difference

[chrome ledge]

hppa?

[dark tusk]

take off plymouths AA radar for a torp bulge

i intentionally didnt give beacons to both volga and yorktown2

youll want 457 zwei somewhat badly

i even equipped sandy with bulge hedgehog

same with aquila no beacon

[chrome ledge]

457 = ap thingy?

[dark tusk]

twin 457, and yes

[dark tusk]

did it work

[chrome ledge]

How do I find the boss fleet?

[hollow cliff]

kill 3 mob fleets, then two mob fleets, then one

the bosses appear each time after

the strat is to have your mob fleet kill all the mobs and the 2nd boss

and the boss fleet to kill the first and 3rd mobs

[dark tusk]

a* strat apparently

[hollow cliff]

yeah I still don't know of I'd reccomend it the other way

[chrome ledge]

you have to clear everything? what is the point in differenating between 2 star clear and 3 star then?

[hollow cliff]

you don't

kill 3 mobs, first boss appears

after you kill teh first boss and two more mobs the 2nd boss appears

after you kill the 2nd boss and one more mob the 3rd boss appears

[chrome ledge]

no, only more mob ships appeared

[hollow cliff]

are you in 15-3 or 15-4

[chrome ledge]

15-3

i shown pictue of it.. does 15-4 look exactly like 15-3?

[hollow cliff]

eh map is pretty much the same

just keep killing mobs with the mob fleet till the 2nd boss appears

[chrome ledge]

second boss does way too much damange and has way too much hp for something like this...

Took me like 4 tries.

Do they expect you pay gems for healing to 3 star this?

[hollow cliff]

you used your boss fleet to fights mobs so yeah

[chrome ledge]

that makes no sense what you said, both have to be boss fleets -.-

[hollow cliff]

the fleet without Unicorn is the "boss" fleet here

[chrome ledge]

i dont know what your saying, the game makes both fleets fight boss, so both fleets are boss fleets

[hollow cliff]

the first boss is easy

relatively

[chrome ledge]

not really

[gaunt phoenix]

the boss fleet is for the last boss that shows up

before that happens, you use your mob fleet to kill the preceeding bosses so your boss fleet isnt debuffed

[hollow cliff]

anyway just use fleet 2 for the last boss and only the last boss fight

[chrome ledge]

at least those fleets can auto 14-4 fine, be annoyed if i had to keep moving gear back and forth

and i can kill siren hard boss in 2 fleets so i have no reason do this again

[dark tusk]

you're probably using the fights a bit incorrectly

second boss fleet, for 15-3, can fight only the second boss

first mob fleet can take on the first boss and all the mobs to spawn them

[chrome ledge]

how do you 3 star it then?

[dark tusk]

for me, my boss fleet with subs was strong enough to do 4 mobs + final boss

my mob fleet could clear at least all recon fleets + some more

reconnaisance enemy nodes have subs, so my boss fleet could not do them at all

but they cleared BB and CV nodes while taking little dmg

[chrome ledge]

so if i can clear trash mobs - 4 without subs i can take the real boss fleet with subs to clear rest?

[dark tusk]

it's how i cleared my 3*

[chrome ledge]

soon i have gold stokepile im making 2 more 13 wayverns im annoyed my ships are not rainbow no more and i think i need.. 2 more? of that sea thing that only comes with uh .. prints i wish they allowed us to have primaery seek and a secondary for research, so when i see an VI i dont likei can IV for planes

[chrome ledge]

oh idea to do 2 birds with one stone i swiched volga and unicorn and using those fleets (only difference) to afk farm 14-4 so she can get levels and i can get gold (and affintiy boding etc, bismark doesnt have any either)

[gaunt phoenix]

why did you put Uni in the boss fleet

It would also be more efficent to farm 12-4 for levels since you dont have to worry about RNG fucking over your fleets in W14

[dark tusk]

well it's just lvling

as long as it lvls

[chrome ledge]

? becuase volga and bismark need lv/s bond so they went in mob fleet for 14-4, still clears on full auto idk what you mean by rng

[chrome ledge]

Guess I’m not 3 star for a while, this yellow 2 triangle aircraft carrier had like 1.5 the number of things a red one has and caused me get a rank cuz of the number of ships that just kept spawning

Is it a bug to display ultra hard trash as 2 triangles ?

I was actually fine till coming across the ultra hard double triangle thing

[chrome ledge]

why was that double yellow trianlge arictaft carror harder then the phase 2 boss? -.-

[hollow cliff]

welcome to W15

[chrome ledge]

what does this mean though? even if i clear on auto getting S all the time on 14-4, 12-4 is somehow better? doesnt 14-4 give more gold / oil too?

[glad fossil]

boss in this higher map is much easier than mob

[chrome ledge]

but WHY is a 2 trinagle yellow harder then 3 trinage red???????????????????????????

and is the idea of upgrading guns on subs to 13 do anything or is that just op siren thing? i thoughti was told for the op siren bonus, if i +13 a gun the 3% works on the torp damage

[dark tusk]

the 3% is an OPSI only bonus

+13s in campaign only contribute their +18% modifier

[chrome ledge]

but does it work like that? i want to +13 thier guns some point for that, was getting close to till this ch 15 came out, i made another +13 ranbow torp, +12 wyvern and i only got 400 gold plate picks left now i have a reverse problem with gold, the other day i used all my gold up now with the farming and going back checking mail for any gem mail i might of missed to see if it was a good idea to spend on dock expand, i got overcap gold and trying find things to spend on -.-

[chrome ledge]

What fleet does not have the 10 million waves? Every yellow I seen after the second boss pop have more enemies then red ones

[chrome ledge]

My subs vanished when I had 3 ammo this a bug?

Did I make a mistake in gear? Subs are causing issue

The air strike helped now see if I can do it without subs

Wow did it even though no subs

[chrome ledge]

does augments do anything for support fleet?

[gaunt phoenix]

Stat padding

[chrome ledge]

do i use the same fleets for 15-4?

here is what i have now, i did a few upgrades idk if everyone is geared right cuz i think someone could used a anti sub thing to allow 3 star 15-3 a bit eaiser, though i prob would had an eaiser time if my sub fleet didnt vanish idk why

Fleet 1

Fleet 2

Support

[hollow cliff]

why Stagg on Brest

[chrome ledge]

idoono i thought that is what yer supposed to do

[hollow cliff]

throw a 57 on her

[chrome ledge]

whats that? is that the only change i need do for 15-4?

[hollow cliff]

the UR AA Gun

[chrome ledge]

im not sure if i have enough plans, i would need convert my anys

if i make another one off my anys i be left with 31

[hollow cliff]

take the one from Sandy and give her a Sextuple

I'd also thow an AA radar on Musashi instead of the Black Shell

[chrome ledge]

is the rainbow better for the cat to have or sandy?

like this?

[hollow cliff]

pretty much

[chrome ledge]

But ya I would have 31 left if I really need another rainbow Aa

[dark tusk]

well

staag is normally strong, but 57 is just completely better in 15

[chrome ledge]

i get that but i mean cat, hamamaii, is she better with rianbow while sandy has the bf things or the other way around? is there any more gear changes suggestions i gave everyone

[dark tusk]

sandy deserves sex and ham2 deserves 57mm

[chrome ledge]

? but thats doesnt help with the question

Lol I was told 15-3 and 15-4 looked alike and couldn’t tell when I shown a pic of 15-3 they are nothing alike, anyways if there is a second fake boss do I kill the second fake boss so main boss fleet can kill 3rd

[chrome ledge]

It took me like 5 tries on manual with sub to s clear it , I almost wiped on the other attempt s, I used my daily repair and couldn’t clear any more

did they add any gear in gear lab to clear 15-4? iu dont see what elsei can do even with the help here

[dark tusk]

honestly ive been feeling a tech dif

[chrome ledge]

tech diff?

didnt you do this with me already wherei shown im maxed in everything?

[dark tusk]

you're not maxed in 120 stats

probably doesnt much matter

[chrome ledge]

wha?

[dark tusk]

ask about it in #gameplay-help

[chrome ledge]

Momo [Avrora] — 10/21/2023 9:41 PM
And the comment about rainbow torp… but ya I got everything cept 15-4 ship obviously
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Unless there something I don’t know it’s maxed to my knowledge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165464566696788109/1165480364886736946/9D773AFC-D002-4682-AD07-D09748DD8CAC.png?ex=6547012c&is=65348c2c&hm=91bb7c25b0538bcdc1c9c2b94f4f20410b26aafedd41dab7c9e1f1375e9cb0fb&
i said i shown this and i proven i was maxed in everything

Momo [Avrora] — 10/21/2023 9:57 PM
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[chrome ledge]

so you are telling me 21 reload is that gamebreking when i got +6 damage from cats?

[dark tusk]

you seem to skim over chat too much

[chrome ledge]

im not the one that missede comment when i gave my stats

[dark tusk]

? i already knew that you didnt have maxed stats

i just wanted someone else to explain the comment

you also didnt understand how "max" works in tech settings

did you read blaster's comment?

it's the button to max out your current stats, it doesnt show that you have completely obtained all of that stat

you kept posting faction tech as if it showed that you have maxed stats

do you understand 120 tech yet?

[chrome ledge]

im not sure why you are calling it "120 tech" or what exactly you want me to "understand" i am just frustated that something like 15-4 can release and i have so much trouble dispite all the stuff i have

[dark tusk]

did you have strong subs

[hollow cliff]

We call it 120 tech because you get it from 120ing ships

The extra stats can help especially stuff like hit

[chrome ledge]

i shown my subs....

[hollow cliff]

Anyway, everyone had trouble with it

You can clear, just get it down to safe even if you can't reliable S clear the boss

[dark tusk]

you posted support fleet but not sub fleet

[chrome ledge]

i shown them here
Momo [Avrora] — 10/21/2023 9:35 PM
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[dark tusk]

do have ldv and the american subs at 125?

[chrome ledge]

i dont know what your asking

[dark tusk]

show your sub dock

[dark tusk]

do you have G7E torps at +13

just asking

[chrome ledge]

idk i shown my gear? sorry im bad with names

[dark tusk]

yea can you just show your torp depot for a sec

[dark tusk]

hmm

[pine mirage]

This is interesting, but i have no hammann 2

[chrome ledge]

I used sub call both carriers and boss phase 2 then last w/e trash that had extended mob fleets and I summoned the subs much later only one died

[chrome ledge]

will this team be able full auto o n safe mode?

[dark tusk]

sounds testable

[chrome ledge]

I did some small upgrades as I farm the event, I can make more rainbow stuff planes etc but I don’t know what the most befit if any

I was farming affinity and some levels during this event and giving some stat bonus people 120

And support, thoughts on the 3 teams?

[plain bluff]

You may wanna @ whoever helped you last time cuz they might not notice btw
I noticed because somehow I got a notification from this

[chrome ledge]

how do i show people in the public help this chat cuz i wanna show the loadouts to people but the called it spam there

[chrome ledge]

No one is answering that I see, how do I show these fleets in main help without being spam accused

[hollow cliff]

they look fine

try them out and make adjustments as needed