13-4 hard help

[hoary nexus]

here

[tawdry garnet]

no

[ember burrow]

there

[hoary nexus]

my wifi acting up so the order is weird but yea

[ember burrow]

[hoary nexus]

yea cuz shes always dead

[ember burrow]

it's boss you have problem with right?

[hoary nexus]

im surprised yall only noticed now considering how many screenshots i posted with helena

[ember burrow]

never looked at your screens

[tawdry garnet]

something like YK2 Indep Uni
Zwei Aquila Albion ig

[last garden]

this should be enough for boss

[tawdry garnet]

assuming manual now?

[last garden]

410 on sushi*

[hoary nexus]

eh black torp harbin?

[rigid ravine]

[last garden]

auto, i've been using that fleet on auto for clear

[ember burrow]

I'd put sextuple on Sandy and 57 on Harbin instead

[hoary nexus]

i have only 1 sexy and 1 57 fyi

[ember burrow]

roomba

[tawdry garnet]

in w13?

sounds like bait

[rigid ravine]

They go on boss

[last garden]

roomba works

[rigid ravine]

Sexy and 57 i mean

Do u want 3* lethal ?

[ember burrow]

roomba works fine 13 or not I don't see the issue

[rigid ravine]

Its doable if u pick ur nodes i think

[hoary nexus]

i always go after triforce nodes first cuz ammo buff

[rigid ravine]

Ye

U should mby alternate so they can heal on scout or 2*

How many fights was it with 0 ammo ? Uh 3 or 4

[ember burrow]

well if you're not after lethal 3star can drop red nodes

[hoary nexus]

im after lethal 3*

[last garden]

8 ammo, 4 non-ammo, total 12 mobs in 13-4

[rigid ravine]

Aight so reserve 4 nodes then for 0 ammo then alternate the others

[last garden]

also there's an extra dmg buff at 4 and 5 ammo, so just pick up the ammo node after every battle to keep the buff up for as long as possible

[hoary nexus]

is there a particular reason to alternate

[rigid ravine]

Depending on ur fleet strengths some nodes might be easier than others

So u can keep fleet healty

[hoary nexus]

also whats the vanguard for mobbing

[ember burrow]

I kept ammo node for last 3 fights but YMMV

[rigid ravine]

Can run cap fluffs setup with the changes drom pvp gear

[ember burrow]

Unicorn, Yorktown II and maybe Independence if you're using Aquila in boss

[hoary nexus]

also triple or twin 410 for sushi

[ember burrow]

Albion is also possibly fair game

[rigid ravine]

Unzen ham2 scylla

[last garden]

uni/yk2/indep + unzen/hammann2/scylla should work

[hoary nexus]

albion? i tried her and it didnt go so well

[ember burrow]

go with Independence then

[rigid ravine]

Will proc yk2 buff aswell

[hoary nexus]

and ren said kaza was better

[rigid ravine]

For my comp

[ember burrow]

[hoary nexus]

[ember burrow]

Hamm2 has 2 AA mounts as well

[tawdry garnet]

hamm2 benefits AA but killing the CVs > AA dmg

so if can slot dmg while still meeting aa then do so

[rigid ravine]

Yeap and aa for mobbing isnt an issue with 3 cv and yorkii there

[hoary nexus]

its a very big issue wdym

[rigid ravine]

But in this comp ham2 fights better coz uss and u said u struggle with cv nodes

[hoary nexus]

i just got swamped by like 20 planes

and my unzen is also on 20% after just one triforce cv node

[rigid ravine]

In my experience the cv waves would just kill them outright and take no dmg

[ember burrow]

[tawdry garnet]

i wonder if i could make musashi viable in mob

[rigid ravine]

I would prefer brest if u had her

[tawdry garnet]

brest didnt feel very useful

if AA isnt met, then backline will take over 20% dmg a cv a node

[rigid ravine]

Actually mby u can run jda instead of scylla

[hoary nexus]

jda not built

everything not in the screenshot that isnt 120 isnt ready

[ember burrow]

used this with Cheshire swapped for Anchorage when I did my boss fleet AA stacking run

[hoary nexus]

is that ingraham?

i retired her a few times

[rigid ravine]

Idk if ur vang will last tbh

[tawdry garnet]

about how many AoAs does kazagumo get in 20s

[hoary nexus]

oh unzen croaked on node 3

[rigid ravine]

Yea..

Whats ur gear look like

[last garden]

yat sen/hamm2/harbin

[hoary nexus]

i posted a screen shot earlier

lemme just setup again

[tawdry garnet]

ive spent well over 100k trying to raise 13h gear

[rigid ravine]

Kinda lean towards that

[hoary nexus]

ive spent only like 30k

[ember burrow]

I spent more cogging ships with the chips from 3starring

[hoary nexus]

mob, i didnt bother adjusting the levels of anything

[last garden]

do you have skypirate?

[gray stream]

Actually q how was mob aa?

[rigid ravine]

No tenrai on last slot yk 2

[hoary nexus]

boss

[hoary nexus]

nope

[hoary nexus]

i used tenrai cuz you said tenrai earlier

ill slot in a vit instead then

[rigid ravine]

I meant wyvern

[gray stream]

Are you struggling mob? Or just boss sorry

[hoary nexus]

both

[rigid ravine]

I did edit

[last garden]

410 on Musashi and put her in top position, in front of repair ship spawn point

[hoary nexus]

so i move indeps wyvern to yorkii?

[hoary nexus]

i am using 410 wdym?

[rigid ravine]

Yea

[hoary nexus]

oh you did? prob didnt see mb

[last garden]

Twin 410 purple I mean

[hoary nexus]

sure

my unzen died on node 2

this is so stupid i have no idea how yall beating this

[tawdry garnet]

idk but i full cleared my first try

[hoary nexus]

indep dead first node

[tawdry garnet]

mob looks a bit bedge

that really is skyraider yk2

[rigid ravine]

Yea

[tawdry garnet]

and tenrai over fighters?

[rigid ravine]

Thats a typo

[tawdry garnet]

what's this

[rigid ravine]

My recc was 1000 lb skyraider wyvern

[tawdry garnet]

i dont suggest this tho

cos indep's TBs are stronger than Yk2's

[hoary nexus]

i was going to put vit in yorkii third slot but ren said use wyvern so i put the vit on indep

[rigid ravine]

I had better results with skyraider over tenrai

[tawdry garnet]

i could believe it cos of cv duos

[rigid ravine]

And i know soup has a +13 skyraider

Also i think skypirate indep wyvern yorki > wyvern indep skypirate yorkii

[tawdry garnet]

i think my w14 fleet is doing better than my w13 comp lol

[rigid ravine]

Correct me if im wrong

[tawdry garnet]

i omega doubt this

indep has 4 tbs

yk2 only 3

[rigid ravine]

Im not sure about that

[tawdry garnet]

what?

[rigid ravine]

So i wont contest

[tawdry garnet]

indep retro

has 4 tbs

[rigid ravine]

?

[tawdry garnet]

what'snot sure

[rigid ravine]

The dmg distribution

But sure

Can change it

[hoary nexus]

i dont even have a skypirate

[tawdry garnet]

what about burgers

[hoary nexus]

whats that

[tawdry garnet]

bruguets

[hoary nexus]

none

[gray stream]

Do you just not have enough aa in mob?

Sorry trying to figure out what people are struggling on and see diff comps

[hoary nexus]

idh enough aa for both

[tawdry garnet]

im dying to cv duo RNG

if kill = no HP loss

[hoary nexus]

though im lacking in damage for boss as well

[tawdry garnet]

if no kill = 40% hp loss

i dont think any comp really resists those spawns on zero ammo

[gray stream]

I’m honestly very surprised I have something fairly similar backline wise and kind of put some half hearted gear on backline mob

Though I did use shimanto rather than Scylla

[tawdry garnet]

im just using my w14 fleet now

literally a straight rip

[gray stream]

I’ll do a run with lethal

[tawdry garnet]

i have 6 0 ammo 3* cvs

it turns out that plymouth + uni is too squishy of a main tank

[gray stream]

That would be pretty dangerous yeah

[tawdry garnet]

oh btw

[gray stream]

I used kron

[tawdry garnet]

ply dies with only uni kekw

unzen no shot

doesnt mashi do volga + uni

[gray stream]

I honestly don’t think unzen is nearly Tanky enough for this though

[hoary nexus]

unzen no shot? what does that mean

[gray stream]

Meaning she doesn’t stand a chance

[tawdry garnet]

no shot unzen can live if ply dies

[hoary nexus]

captain suggested unzen

[tawdry garnet]

i unsuggest it

[hoary nexus]

im just listening at this point because im out of ideas

[tawdry garnet]

i think

i need to use twin 356 musashi

kekw

[gray stream]

Consider Cheshire or just some cb like brest if you’re running out of aa… you may have tried already though

[hoary nexus]

look at my dock

i dont have either of them

[gray stream]

I though kron was contributing quite a bit end damage screen wise (comparable to backline), and ok it’s not that good for dmg estimations

[tawdry garnet]

Delulu dock

[hoary nexus]

whats so bad about it

[gray stream]

Throw in agir mob why not

[hoary nexus]

sure

[tawdry garnet]

cos it's a deader slot

[rigid ravine]

Aegir in plane spam

[tawdry garnet]

literally eugen-esque ship choice

[gray stream]

Alrighty then

[hoary nexus]

wdym? the bombs dropped are a threat or sth?

[tawdry garnet]

anyways, this fleet can fight 7 3* cv nodes to spawn boss

[rigid ravine]

Non d30 ply

No shomanto

[tawdry garnet]

how distant was it

[hoary nexus]

no shimanto

ply is 10 prints from d30

[last garden]

try with agir instead of unzen as lixxy said

[tawdry garnet]

yea if you dodge 3* cvs then agir fine

[gray stream]

Scylla though might just not be enough aa…

[tawdry garnet]

it isnt

[hoary nexus]

im struggling pretty hard on aa

[gray stream]

Hm. I used this and mob didn’t rly struggle at all

[hoary nexus]

shimanto

all of the good comps yall suggest have shimanto

[tawdry garnet]

were you all wyverns

[gray stream]

I know but just saying to cad

I don’t think so? I didn’t spend my time on mob

I may have used one or two probably

[rigid ravine]

Lethal 3* right

[gray stream]

Yep obv

[tawdry garnet]

if i were smart then i'd just take ammo node

[gray stream]

I did take ammo though

[rigid ravine]

Well we need to get over ammo fights first

[tawdry garnet]

yea

i dont really buy into two roombas mob

[rigid ravine]

Me neither

[gray stream]

I’m still using double accelerator and sex

Occasionally one roomba

[rigid ravine]

But 1 57 and 1 sexy prob better on boss

And then whats left

[last garden]

i didn't use shimanto but i had more healing and 2 flames on cats

[tawdry garnet]

twin 356 musashi was literally the play

oh that's your fleet fluff

forgot cats

[hoary nexus]

klaudia still queueing, im prioritizing cv tech rn

[tawdry garnet]

klaudia unicorn indep seems like negative stagger

[last garden]

they're staggered

[tawdry garnet]

do they actually fire on different plane waves

uni and klaudia are like 19s range

[last garden]

my gear

[tawdry garnet]

well u cleared so

did that 3* for you

[last garden]

yes

[hoary nexus]

tried with agir
scylla and ham2 died together on node 2

was triforce bb

[tawdry garnet]

it's the delulu nerf

[hoary nexus]

delulu name is just to match with a friend

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