#W14 prep level 1 and 2
errant fable
triple cv fleet will die to suiceders
tacit tinsel
Yeah i know the requirements are pretty different im just not sure where to start other than put chang chung somewhere
I made a +10 asw plane and hedgehog too
errant fable
w14 is a really differnt beast from w13, for the first half you can get by with a strong mob and brute force your way through
outer slate
red do you mind raising more ships for w14
errant fable
what dev is fdg?
tacit tinsel
i mainly want to do levels 1 and 2 with what i have now
outer slate
your vanguard options are pretty tight, but i see some good ones that just need levels
tacit tinsel
what dev is fdg?
Fate sim 2
outer slate
what dev is fdg?
shes 30, look at her stars
errant fable
oops meant fs
tacit tinsel
I dont mind raising more for 3 and 4 but thats not my immediate goal
errant fable
max fs fdg was an absoloute carry for me
outer slate
fdg, uni, indep, otto, kazagumo, chang chun for mob
nj, zwei, sara, agir, jda, ancho for boss
tacit tinsel
fdg, uni, indep, otto, kazagumo, chang chun for mob
nj, zwei, sara, agir, jda, a...
Why kazagumo over sirius?
I have both but sirius is 120
outer slate
id run regolo over kazagumo if you can level her, if you raise san fran you can drop kaza and move otto to off tank
tacit tinsel
Kaza is still a bit wip
errant fable
fdg, uni, indep, otto, kazagumo, chang chun for mob
nj, zwei, sara, agir, jda, a...
I doubt that mob fleet would survive
outer slate
I have both but sirius is 120
sirius has no dmg but kaza does while having a more potent buff
errant fable
if you swap kaza for yat sen it'd work
tacit tinsel
Yat sen is still really new and not retrod. But yeah i do plan on building her
I got her 2 days ago
errant fable
dd tank gud cuz high eva
dds are really susceptible to a single big hit tho if your unlucky
outer slate
yat sen works too yea, better than san fran in this case
outer slate
dds are really susceptible to a single big hit tho if your unlucky
single big hit not gna kill, if dev22 ply + 2 dd can survive theres no way otto cant
tacit tinsel
fdg, uni, indep, otto, kazagumo, chang chun for mob
nj, zwei, sara, agir, jda, a...
Is saratoga better than enterprise? Why?
outer slate
ah fk i missed enty, mb use enty
brazen mica
tacit tinsel
Jda is better in boss fleet than mob?
errant fable
if you focus on the mob fleet you can use it till you have one ammo left then throw a crap fleet at the remaining enimies till the boss spawns then fight it with the strong mob
tacit tinsel
I only have one wyvern sadly
outer slate
thanks for saving me the pain ren 
errant fable
for w14 survivability>dps
tacit tinsel
No fancy shoes
outer slate
I only have one wyvern sadly
run on indep, replace the rest with vit-2 or whatever substitutes you have
outer slate
No fancy shoes
ice bomb gud, if not literally any eva aux or toolbox will work
tacit tinsel
I dont have chang chuns green ring thing yet. I need to buy that
Whats a temporary substitute ?
brazen mica
no substitute for chang green thing
errant fable
btw hows your asw looking?
tacit tinsel
Well i have a +10 hedgehog and the +10 asw plane
errant fable
you'll be fine then
tacit tinsel
I havent upped them more than that
errant fable
you won't need to change your asw for the rest of the world
tacit tinsel
That blue gun is bis on kazagumo? I did not know that
errant fable
faster fire rate = skill proc = more torps plus cv heal
brazen mica
well i mean for 14-1 and 2 u can skip on asw stuff
tacit tinsel
More important on boss fleet or mob?
errant fable
mob
tacit tinsel
well i mean for 14-1 and 2 u can skip on asw stuff
Oh. Really?
errant fable
Are there no subs in 1 and 2?
thing with w14 boss fleets is that there is a lot of enemies before the boss so you kinda need a boss fleet that can mob for a bit
don't know why i hit reply for that
tacit tinsel
Right thankfully bisko is pretty good at both
errant fable
ngl in my experience bis zwei was a bit of a let down when mobbing
errant fable
No helena in boss fleet?
depends if you can keep her alive
brazen mica
no helena is squishy and doesnt bring much to the table when the boss fight is just a super sized mob fight
tacit tinsel
Hahahaha probably not
Is anti air important? Im also quite limited there
Nowhere near the number of good aa guns you put in
gusty bobcat
if running Independence, FDG should be in slow node
brazen mica
replace staags with hazemeyers, the rest fill with gold aa
tacit tinsel
What do you mean by slow node?
gusty bobcat
Champaign Gun and Double shell
tacit tinsel
I only have 2 champ guns
gusty bobcat
457 Fire Control Table over laps too much with Independence's early strike
tacit tinsel
gusty bobcat
I only have 2 champ guns
swap NJ and FDG's main guns then
tacit tinsel
That makes sense
gusty bobcat
also why Goldburn and not Rudder on Otto
tacit tinsel
I only have 3 rudders 😅
gusty bobcat
Anchorage also wants fast torps and no Beaver Badge?
brazen mica
i think i pref quads when running with jda
tacit tinsel
I only have 3 rudders 😅
brazen mica
but beaver is fair yea
tacit tinsel
I have a pearl too thats not shown there
Ill give anchorage badge instead of heels then i dont have the heels anyway
The sword is bis on agir? I didnt level that yet but i can do so easily
brazen mica
well no beaver/ice bomb are bis 2nd eva aux
tacit tinsel
Oh right but beaver only one and no ice bomb
brazen mica
yea
tacit tinsel
Cool and i guess i dont need any asw stuff for 1 and 2 so i just use a catapult on uni
brazen mica
yea
also replace dd asw with 2nd hp aux
and goldburn on otto with rudder
wait actually u only got 3
uh
tacit tinsel
Do any front line need 125 that i havent already done
tacit tinsel
Ok maybe ill oath chang chun for anni then
brazen mica
kazagumo is also 125 worthy but save for backlines prob
tacit tinsel
Should independence be 125
errant fable
btw concealment mechanics screw with missle and rocket targeting
ddgs are still viable tho
tacit tinsel
Shes the only back line in that image i didnt 125 yet
brazen mica
up to u
errant fable
you'd probs use her in the future so go ahead if you want
brazen mica
i dont think u got any
probably blue steering wheel or tracto 
2nd toolbox?
then just goldburn
tacit tinsel
Why scepter on both indy and uni?
brazen mica
coz eva good
tacit tinsel
Ok ill make another one then