W14-4

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I will share my ships here can someone tell me if i am good for w14?

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you are too good for 14

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never tried w14

can you help me make 2 teams for it?

if necessary i can bump shiops up from 1 to 120

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where's harbin?

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i dont have harbin leveld

wait who is that

oh p5

no i dont have harbin

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kinda like
fdg indep uni ply yuudachi kitakaze
bisz musashi yorkii aegir azuma anchorage
whateversubmarines

for gear, just try to make 3 main fleet ships attack at different times

don't use VH armor, and torpedo bulge is reasonable for azuma

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ok all ships are ready except kitakaze need to put some gear on her

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what does that mean ?

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for 14-3 and 14-4, yuudachi and kitakaze one of them take hedgehog, and unicorn takes a purple asw auxiliary plane

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it means
aegir: rudder beaver
azuma: rudder bulge
anchorage: rudder + eva/manjuu
ply: rudder + toolkit/bulge

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what is rudder?

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washing machine

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aaj

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scepter for all carriers and officer's sword for all BBs. The eva stat is pretty important for safety

155 kai is the best CL gun for BBs after the rainbow gun, so you should put 155 kai on all the BBs, especially fdg

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14-1 cleared with 3*

thx @weak badge

i will cbe chatting here once i continue tomorrow

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14-2 cleared with 3*

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Send indep and FdG gears

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my implaceable just sitting around shouldnt i use her instead of indep?

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More damage isn't going to help if she just overkills by launching the same time FdG fires main gun

Yeah okay that indep fighter isn't it

It's meant for focus fire against med armor, you want raw aoe dmg for mobbing, give flapjack or tigercat

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what are these and what slot are we talking about?

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Fighters

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vought_XF5U_Flying_Flapjack_(Prototype)

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F7F_Tigercat

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/De_Havilland_Sea_Hornet

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which oif these 2 are better?

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The differences are not major, use whichever one you have

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i found a flapjack laying around here

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Then replace her bf109g with it

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peek

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ok done

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Tbh idk about 457 on FdG but I'll leave that for others to decide

What are Sandy and uni gears?

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idk about sandy i randomly use her because my kitakaze is not ready

should i use someone else for 14-3?

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why did stig put poi as centre

poi is pretty damn tanky in 14

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Who knows, somehow she's still dying

I'm suspecting BB burns

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kita isnt any tankier

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OK idk your fleet tech situation and FdG's alternating rld buff makes things annoying, but quick CD calcs show her shooting at a very similar time to indep airstrike

So stagger does appear to be an issue

You can try giving her a hpfcr or a triple gun

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i also dont know my fleet tech situation... what is fleet tech?

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who?

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FdG

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umm what slot do i put it in?

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Yuudachi might be dying to burn, swap her toolbox to fire extinguisher and see if that helps, uni is dying either to prods leaking, which stagger helps with, or subs, in which case give her an asw plane, or eating BB burns, which you solve by not leaking prods/fire extinguisher

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Use one of these
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/High_Performance_Fire_Control_Radar
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiralty_Fire_Control_Table
To change the timing of her first shot, and stagger that way

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you'll more likely have the former

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Or give her one of these
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mk_7)
To naturally slow down her firing cycle

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HE in 14-4?

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Been ages since I cleared it, still included champgun nonetheless

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the rainbow table i am sadly missing

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Use hpfcr then or a champgun

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HPFCR does the same thing but slightly worse state wise

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but what equpiment do i change for hpfcr?

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i usually ditch white shell

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ok

umm i dont have hpfcr

is hsfcr ok too?

oh its the same

nvm

ok everything done

am i reeady now?

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can i see your fleet right now?

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ofc

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dual CB

i say go ahead, looks hella lot better then what i used

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ok ima try now

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wait

do you have a 2x 1000lb fighter?

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what is that?

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Flapjack, Tigercat, or sea Hornet

Did you only have the 1 flapjack that you mentioned earlier?

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no i have another flap

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put it on unicorn

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okii

unicorn still took some damage after first battle

i will try second battle

i hope she can heal herself

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Try and note what she's taking damage from

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second battle good trying 3rd now

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umm huh? from the enemys?

idk

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Yes, but what specifically. Is it a ramming ship reaching the end of screen? Do you see BB mobs launching shells at your backline and her health just drops even after they're gone? Are subs making it past your VG?

How's Yuudachi holding up now?

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60% health after third battle

ohoh

yuudachi 30% after 4th battle

uni is fine i think

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continue or retreat

ima try more battle

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take cruiser battles imo

if your ASW is good should be easy

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what is that?

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Lighthouse may also be helpful to speed up clear times and minimize damage

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Light gray

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cruiser

CV is flat deck, BB is black

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oh but i need to clear all enermies anyway dont i?

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Do it when you've gotten it down to safe

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depends on if you wanna suffer

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yes i wanna suffer

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then do it in lethal

i did it and im definitely sane

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what happened

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idk

umm ima try boss now... lvl 126

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imma try 14-3 lethal brb

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what is lethal

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the safety rating

the more runs you do, the lower the rating, meaning the less damage you take

safe is 20%

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where is the option?

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not an option, it just happens passively as you farm the stage

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ah

ok boss fight was easy

14-3 cleared once

so umm what can i do with my poi now?

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hold on is it 14-3 or 14-4?

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14-3

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i have no clue how your yuudachi is taking so much damage

also use your subs @valid horizon

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here is my submarines

working on wolfpack but will take me 1 more month to be ready with them

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try and standardise with g7es

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shjould i change back the fire extinguisher to toolbox?

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what is g7es

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this

or this

and ultimately you want to get bidders (gearlab britain sub torpedo)

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huh i can craft 4 of em

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After 8 sorties (no subs, no light house, no refills)

i too have skill issue

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1 bidder and 1 G7e on every submarine is good?

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sure

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ok i will go learn japanese now and farm 12-4 for coins meanwhile.... i will be back to 14-3 in 1-2 hours

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im not sure whats killing her

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ye but maybe i fixed it but made it worse in the same time by giving her fire extinguisher

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try a run with toolbox

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ok will do later

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gtg sleep now

blupy my beloved

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ah have a good rest

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ok yuudachi is fine now in think

after likew 6 battles unicorn and indep died

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haiii

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uuh i want my submarines in support mode right? that i can use them in battle and not that they attack on their own

W14-3

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yes

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yeah

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ok am i trying 14-3 now again with taking the hardest fights first... maybe i have more success now

and subs in support

looking good so far

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just manual if auto is too difficult

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i wish i could stream somewhere so you guys could watch me suffering lol

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oh i tthink i am a bad manual player

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uh

What UR CVs are not being used rn

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fair enough

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umm

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these are my 2 fleets rn (not equipment only setup)

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is this your gear?

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no i changed some gear after people helped me here

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is FDG's gear still the same?

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wait lemme finish this try i will report soon

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i think yes

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ok that should be changed

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sandy is dying

nvm uni is healing

what are these triangles above the ships?

the 2 yellow triangles and the 3 red triangles above the enemy

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Enemy difficulty

If ur having issues don't do 3 triangles

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ah oh thx

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What dev is

Haku

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mobe gear should be something like this

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not far ... dev24

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Meh can't use Haku

Uni run rocket beacon asw plane

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Rocket Plane is just CN cope

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ok im finished

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boss fleet backline gear should look something like this

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this happend

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yeah

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@ancient salmon that's the CN setup for Unicorn

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your FDG and Independence timings overlap

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I know, and the rocket plane is still cope

it just doesn't work most of the time

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Better than 2x1000

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it is not

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If they're having issues just try it

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they do?= someone put an aux for my fdg so it does not

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the issue mainly and that their independence and FDG over lap timing wise for their first salvo/ air strike

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my boss fleet is fine they take the boss fight easy after doing 1 mob still

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Why not Implac

Instead of Indep

No DB sucks but better sync

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yes why is that

can i use implaceable instead?

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I don't think she offers anything for mob the way shinano did in earlier days of w14. Now, Volga is probably best 3rd wheel if available

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yeah

Independence is fine

also are you resetting fight?

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Indep kinda forces FdG to take triple tho

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what?

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resetting fights

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what does it mean?

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Basically if fight gets bad

u click on pause and leave the battle

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no

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well start doing that then

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should i?

oh ok

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it'll only cost you 6 oil per reset

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Does indep 25% cuck FdG using 457 here? https://i.imgur.com/lMpGmE7.png

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TBH I think that's worse

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It looks terrible

Triple would be better

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yeah

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But that's why I don't wanna run Indep

Meh should be fine

Just reset a bit try to kill suicides

Then cope Fusou prods don't delete back

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so no changing with equipment?

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you do

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mainly this

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to this?

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for the mob fleet

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oh

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Nono don't change to that

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Change to dis

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but someone told me to put hsfcr on FdG for timing

change back to white shell?

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yeah

you're running Independence so you don't want the Fire Control Radar

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ok done

what are these 2 purple equips on uni? i dont have those

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Homeing Beacon and the ASW plane

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where can i get these

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former can be obtained from core shop, if you don't have it a Catapult is fine

the latter can be obtained from the Gear Lab

under USN Torp Bombers

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ok I bought both

kinda afraid of the purple color

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why is the purple gear instead of EVA stat?

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to keep subs from leaking

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what does this mean?

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out of ammo fights you just leak subs contanstly

meaning they can get get past the vanguard and start attacking the main fleet

there as a precaution

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I am out of ammo now idk what to do

I barely survive this battle

Or some ships die

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keep pushing

also you misused subs

save them for the out off ammo fights

and if need be the boss node

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oh i tried using the subs for the hard fights

i took the hardest fights first

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yeah don't need to

all you need to do is save two easy fights for when you're out of ammo

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You put sandy middle with torpedo bulge

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i can do that but then yuudachi is gonna die isnt she?

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No, the third slot is slightly safer than the middle slot

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oh but this is not usual right? normally middle is saver or not?

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Just in 14 is different because of many torpedoes

Torpedoes have small splash

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Shuwa | Still a New Player
If ur having issues don't do 3 triangles
Also

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umm but there is no way around if i want to 3* it lol

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ok i see

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at least wait till you get to down to safe before trying to 3 star it

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can someone help me with my meowfficers?

i have a lot of cats but never cared about them

idk how to use them

i have a lot and i can make a lot

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

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"several million coins"

ok nvm then

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Covers pretty much everything but the list of talents cats can come with

For now just use the best ones you have. Not like it hurts anything

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ok i am trying 14-3 now again with saving submarines for out of ammo

when i am out of ammo should i use my subs at the start of the battles?

like right away in every battle?

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no

hold them until after the first few waves

the last waves are the toughest and the ones you want dead ASAP

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thank you

asking again because last time i asked people told me different things: should i collect the ammo and the tower or not?

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Use like 10 to 20 seconds into the battle

Use lighthouse and ammo, don't use flares

There's no ammo in 14-3

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oh this ammo like looking thing is flares?

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You don't have snorkels for your submarines?

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so i only use lighthouse

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ummm the rainbow was shiny

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Use subs 20 to 30 seconds into the battle then

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do i use the lighthouse as soon i am out of ammo?

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grab it from the start

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oh

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As soon as you can reach it

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why is it even on the map then wtf

lol

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Which is after the first battle, because you should choose that blocker enemy on the first battle

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blocker?

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The lighthouse is in the corner, and there is always an enemy fleet blocking your path to it

Before clearing mode

It's a 3 triangle reconnaissance fleet

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oh i see

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Pick it as your first battle and take the lighthouse right after

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ok thank you for the advice everyone

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For your lethal three star purposes, Gloucester the purple CL would have been really good

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i almost 3* it just right now... only needed to clear 1 more mob but it was too risky i went for boss

tomorrow i will try manual fight i can 3* then maybe

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You know you can quit battle until you win

Just quit before losing

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Just make sure you got oil

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yes i learned that yesterday :D thx

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I finished 14-3 with manual

W14-4

Thank you everyone for your help!!

Nooow i am looking at the final stage D: 14-4 looks scary

aaah level 127 enemys

what should i do? can i use the same fleets for this as in 14-3?

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same for 14-4 right?

After 1st fight in 14-4... i should auto it too right?

i got ambushed

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Just add like one more plane on York for recon

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Same, just change boss BBs to AP guns. And mob is not harder because you have 3 extra ammo

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i changed sandy to kazagumo that worked :D

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I did it! 14-4 is full cleared! thank you everyone who helped!!

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Nice