W14-3 and 4 help | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 10:27 AM

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Im having trouble with the last 2 maps and not really sure if this is possible or if i need better vanguard

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All are 125 except otto 122 but i can book her

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Was considering swapping chesh and anchy but not sure if she can live 14-4 boss. I don’t have better tanks unfortunately

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Potential options but i think this is the best i can do?

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Anchy has manju instead of beaver badge

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Who's dying?

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Chang chun then chesh

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I think it’s from sub torps

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Boss fleet seems solid kita is fragile but agir and anchy can live long enough, enty gets low sometimes dies but i don’t care about s rank rn.

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Give uni a asw plane, replace Chang chun's purple DC with toolbox or fire extinguisher (IIRC W14 has some nasty BB burns)

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The purple depth charge is pretty bad, not worth losing the survivability, and uni dmg isn't too important, you can afford to lose a catapult

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Are you using subs?

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Gotcha still not sure about chesh but i feel like anchy has to be in boss fleet?

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Yea u47 556meta archerfish only u47 and 556 are 120 tho

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Archerfish just there for 6 ammo

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Also using changs missle for fleets not in hunting range

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Or when sub ammo is 0

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 10:49 AM

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Anchorage doesn't have to be in the boss fleet, but seeing the state of your Azuma she's probably going to have to stay there

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Your fleets seem fine for the most part, hard to say what to change without knowing what exactly is going wrong

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 10:50 AM

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I think sub plane and extinguisher on chang should fix my biggest problem

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Then its just figuring out if shoe is better on chesh or if she needs extinguisher too?

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Or toolbox?

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 10:51 AM

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Boss vanguard pressure shouldn't be too bad, you could try swapping Cheshire and Anchorage

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 10:51 AM

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mild plaza Or toolbox?

Hp has pretty diminishing returns for CAs, I'd stick either with pure EVA and only switch to fire extinguisher if you see the DoTs ticking

modern elk Jul 11, 2023, 10:52 AM

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Potato, is that all his units he has now? NimiPing

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 10:52 AM

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As far as I know

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 10:53 AM

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Well that’s everything i can use yea im on lil e so not much to choose from haha

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Sf is probably the next best ship but shes 110 rn everything else is most likely not better

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Ty ill try with chesh in mob first and if she struggles swap anchy

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 11:02 AM

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One last thing worth trying is to swap the Wyvern from independence to unicorn, ik the slot buff is tempting, but the dmg per torp before AVI scaling is 1.5 * 340 = 510 with Wyvern vs 1.65 * 288 = 475.2 with sky pirate

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Including the extra plane, should increase your overall backline damage, letting you clear faster and take less vanguard damage

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 11:03 AM

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Yea i was thinking that since im giving uni a sub plane

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Tyty

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 11:03 AM

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Also worth giving Otto a twin 128 as well, just to maximize pierce damage double dipping

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Also a fair chance for her to run into heavy armor enemies where the twin 135 really does not have favorable mods

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Though that will depend a bit on node choice

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 11:04 AM

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Oh ok ill try that, that’s actually a really good point

lime valve Jul 11, 2023, 11:06 AM

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All else fails, if your Odin is fs5 she's worth giving a shot if nothing else works, the double barrage is pretty good screen clear and has consistent DPS to help out your vanguard, but hopefully the other changes are enough

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Gl

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 11:38 AM

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mild plaza All are 125 except otto 122 but i can book her

do you have regolo ?

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Yea but shes unusable for a while

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Itll prob be 2 weeks+ before i can get her to 120

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:10 PM

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fewikafbbiwu'

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:10 PM

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mild plaza Potential options but i think this is the best i can do?

are you ok with lvling a bit more

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how close is haku to D30

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FdG Uni Indep Otto Kita Chang
Zwei NJ Enty Agir Anchorage RoonU

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probably

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maybe

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i think souryum > indep with some gear

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:13 PM

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I'd rather run 125 inde tbh

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:13 PM

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id rather have a raised souryum than raised indep here

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:13 PM

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yeah but he's not gonna spend arrays on souryuum that's a waste

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:13 PM

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120 souryum probably competitive

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fdg doesnt wear 457 well with indep

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:14 PM

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i mean he's never gonna auto 14-3/14-4 with what he's running on mob

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so doesn't really matter

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:14 PM

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but he can

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certainly cant with advice beforehand

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:15 PM

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onyx sedge how close is haku to D30

do you have one or two 457s

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:16 PM

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Souryuu meta is 120able rn, i have 2 457s, 3 champy so i could swap? I did notice fdg fires right before inde launches so if she doesnt wave clear inde wastes a launch

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:16 PM

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that's right, and that's why that combo is bad

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:16 PM

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But that doesnt happen often

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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w14 is about consistency

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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Yea

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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mild plaza Souryuu meta is 120able rn, i have 2 457s, 3 champy so i could swap? I did notic...

ok

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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I have enough arrays to 125 another sr

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:18 PM

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dont need 125s in w14

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:18 PM

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But idk about using on souryuu tbh even if its slightly better

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:18 PM

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dont need to 125 souryum to be better

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one or two tenrai?

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and what dev is haku

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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1 rn im 4 prints away from second one

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Haku is d25

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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did you buy all protocore tenrai prints

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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Yea

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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ok

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:25 PM

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Is otto more ehp than chesh? I was thinking of trying the triple dd vanguard with a justice cat but was afraid otto would get blown up by 3star bb fleets

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:25 PM

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close

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:26 PM

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3 star bb fleets will blow up your main fleet

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:26 PM

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well they kill vanguard by ramming

glad wave Jul 11, 2023, 4:26 PM

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mild plaza Is otto more ehp than chesh? I was thinking of trying the triple dd vanguard wit...

Not with those shitty guns

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Otto should take quad 152 or twin 100 kai

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Or at the very least 114

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:27 PM

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i found light fleets much easier to deal with than bb fleets

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:28 PM

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mild plaza Potential options but i think this is the best i can do?

souryum -> wear new manjuu, z46 -> otto, bism -> zwei

glad wave Jul 11, 2023, 4:29 PM

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Roombas HakuCry

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:32 PM

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Hmm i dont have tash gun i can buy proto for 1 harbin gun, but after that i only have 2 128s, 1 100kai, pompy gun, and a bunch of shit 114s

glad wave Jul 11, 2023, 4:32 PM

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I would have put SF healer since he didn't say main fleet was unhealthy

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:32 PM

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mild plaza Hmm i dont have tash gun i can buy proto for 1 harbin gun, but after that i only...

otto wears 100kai, kita chang can do 114s

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114s were a bis slot on some ships before

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dont need to proto harbin gun

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:34 PM

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Were talking about the 12-4 one right not the pr3 one right bc i dont have the pr3 one

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:34 PM

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the twin 114 in pic is from PR3

glad wave Jul 11, 2023, 4:35 PM

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But now that I remember my own experience, this triple DD may be tanky enough already

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:35 PM

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otto is gonna struggle

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so you're gonna have to move her around after a few runs

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:36 PM

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otto may die to only zero ammo

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:36 PM

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well he'll see

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:36 PM

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full clears

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do you know how tanky otto is?

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:37 PM

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I ran her alongside chang chun and regolo and she really doesn't like 3 star light fleets

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well she's 122 rn so she probably won't take as much of a beating but 120 was brutal

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:38 PM

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did you have matching strong main fleet

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:39 PM

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glad wave I would have put SF healer since he didn't say main fleet was unhealthy

i did think about it tbh

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:39 PM

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hanzo is from little e so we have access to the same ships, I ran inde instead of souryum but made sure to stagger properly

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now if otto is 125 she probably would clear much easier but from my experience with 120 otto she really struggled

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:40 PM

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you didnt asw her?

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:40 PM

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i had asw on regolo/chang

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she ran standard toolkit+washing

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:42 PM

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128 is a worse equip

astral elm Jul 11, 2023, 4:42 PM

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yeah well I had nothing better to use on her

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i could maybe run single 150mm but didn't bother

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Oh im dumb i thought the twin 100 was 114

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My dd selection is trash

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:47 PM

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since you have tenrai + champy guns

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can you even complete a harbin gun?

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 4:47 PM

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I can yea

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I have 5 +buy 20

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 4:47 PM

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ok, otto twin100kai kita harbin gun and chang 138

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Hmm i lied souryuu is not close to 120 she only has 1.1 mil exp i thought she had more but confused with hiryuu

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Metas

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How would i go about staggering inde or just wait a few days till soryuu is leveled

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I assume make her slower with manjuu thatll make her launch around 18 and uni around 20

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 5:35 PM

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well

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indep is staggered for ~16 seconds

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FdG would just wear champy gun and double shell

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Hmm ill try that and farm 12-4 in the meantime i might have enough books for both otto 125 and souryuu 120 after a couple exp runs

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 6:40 PM

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Oh and last thing i didnt notice i made the (potentially wrong) choice on getting a 100kai this month over a second wyvern so since i only have 1 for another month, wyvern on uni or enti is better?

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And i assume skypirate on the other?

onyx sedge Jul 11, 2023, 6:56 PM

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mild plaza Oh and last thing i didnt notice i made the (potentially wrong) choice on gettin...

wyvern on uni and ryusei on enty

mild plaza Jul 11, 2023, 7:24 PM

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Kk ty

mild plaza Jul 12, 2023, 9:40 AM

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I got it ty for all the help, idk how tf im supposed to 3star 14-3 but i assume i just take it to safe first and 14-4 is so much easier by comparison

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