#My sh*t fleets yay

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Here

gilded frigate
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hmm

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no hedgehog?

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(No hedgehogs before you ask)

grizzled light
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how

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deleted

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most likely

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I scrapped it 2 years ago regrettably when I was a phat noob)

gilded frigate
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RIP

left summit
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Indeed

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swap uvh to mk7 for 14-3 only

gilded frigate
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UvH with 460 won't be much good in 14-3

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also drop the rudder on Musashi

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and use a Black shell instead

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cant find where i helped you

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well maybe 14-3 backline pressure is less

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iunno

gilded frigate
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I really don't think it'll make much of a difference

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i do

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i recced rudderless for a few people

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they die

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i recc rudder

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they clear

grizzled light
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well the main issue for 14-3 is ineed uvhs gun

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gilded frigate
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I mean that's fair but at the same time nothing hard to back it up

grizzled light
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indeed*

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All my gear also

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460 -> mk7 should probably be plenty

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gilded frigate
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plus didn't we establish the real killer was burns anyway

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406 mk7

grizzled light
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rainbow HE 406

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idk who's we, but getting hit less is also less chances to proc burns

gilded frigate
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didn;t Ricist say it was only dodging like an extra shell if you equipped rudder

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an extra shell when geometrically, like 2-3 are in range

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oh, but uvh doesnt wear rudder

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uvh never rudder, musa maybe

left summit
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So put rudder on mushi and black shell on uvh?

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i'd shoot a try with that

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how was boss fleet dying

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probably frontline in 14-3 right

left summit
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Its was the mob fleet vanguard taking to much damage actually

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Even on manual

gilded frigate
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there's a shock

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on first clear only?

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just 6 nodes?

left summit
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Yes

gilded frigate
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that's strange

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probably stop manualling

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By about 4 or 5 it gets destroyed

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On auto and manual*

gilded frigate
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what formation are you using?

grizzled light
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drop jeanne for a dps

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oh wait

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jeanne was boss

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ye

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gilded frigate
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try double line then

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try doubles on both fleets

grizzled light
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dont bruh the single line

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grizzled light
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no you dont

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it's very bruh

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it's over 40% eva stat

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Alright will give it a go once they stop being bitchy with their mood 😒

grizzled light
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its not bruh at all

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-10% on single line and +40% on double line

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when vanguard is dying on lethal clear, it's definitely a bruh

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single line has merits elsewhere

gilded frigate
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and clearly killing stuff faster isn't working here

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no shot 50% eva stat dif is made up by vanguard FP for survival

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especially with plenty of backline dmg

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I just want New Orleans to save my OCD BataanCry

grizzled light
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and somehow isnt here?

gilded frigate
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and what fleet where you using

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@left summitjust try double lines as a quick personal test

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both fleets

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we see how they live

grizzled light
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musashi/uni/volga kron/chang/harbin

left summit
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Gotcha cheif, gonna send the moody batches out

grizzled light
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but yeah checking other formation might be worth

gilded frigate
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the fact that the fleet wasn't just crushing it either way is kinda...

grizzled light
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my point was only you shouldnt bruh the single line

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tbh i wonder if mob fleet cbs even want toolbox instead of double eva

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toolbox procs in a vacuum are more, but uni consistently heals more ehp when they have double eva

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iunno

gilded frigate
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I can't be arsed to test it

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less a test and more a calc

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@final parcel @gilded frigate @grizzled light

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i fullcleared off a similar setup

gilded frigate
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I have no idea what's going on then

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All was done on auto with boss fleet on lighthouse too as well as making use of flare shells

grizzled light
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yeah that looks like your healers dont work or something

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dont use flares

gilded frigate
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yeah don't use flairs

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asking a random person to video the whole run is a little tough

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ah dont use flares

gilded frigate
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that shouldn't be making or breaking a run though

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i actually went lighthouseless i think

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I'll try without flares and lighthouse then

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well take lighthouse

gilded frigate
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no use lighthouse

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but flareless

grizzled light
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comps look ok, gear looks ok, what could possibly be the issue here

left summit
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Okay

grizzled light
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was the with evasion formation aswell?

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if flareless works

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can conclude that flares are this shit

grizzled light
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tbh i cleared all my shit back then with flares

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i cleared with flares and less good ships too but DunktsukiStare

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is what the test says so

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ye im not doubting flares being shit

gilded frigate
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unless we somehow really screwed up the timings for the main fleet

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it's 457 fast uni slow aquila

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fcr 457 at that

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missing wyverns on aquila a little bit but

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shouldnt have impacted the run

grizzled light
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what was the mob offtank again?

gilded frigate
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Yuddachi

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idk then

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didnt think i would need a vid to sus out fdg aquila kron

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Well, feedback, the fleet just won, fdg had a slither of health left on final mob, I had lost Kaze and yudachi and kron had a quarter of health left

As for the boss things went better, although they got flag ship to a third health

gilded frigate
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hmm

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I'm just stumped at this point

left summit
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I can record my next playthrough if it helps

gilded frigate
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yes please

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that's the only we're gonna find out the issue at this point

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To long to upload here so uploading to yt then will forward links

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ye

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@final parcel @gilded frigate @grizzled light

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so it's not enough asw for one problem

grizzled light
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well ye lack of hedgehog hurts

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but maybe try using a dps unit instead of kazagumo?

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Maybe not?

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i dont think intercept was an issue

grizzled light
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dying was an issue

gilded frigate
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yeah the vanguard is dying not main fleet

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well tru that much

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asw just fks zero ammo

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was barely enough w/ammo

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grizzled light
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ply or harbin would provide more constant dps than kaza

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hell even anshan

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"hell even"?

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name three of some top ships

grizzled light
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im biased towards harbin, bear with me

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and call them better dps than kaza

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smh

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but is true

grizzled light
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it so happens that 2 out of 3 of them are permanent content, so WarShrug

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probably tank up with a better vg

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boss fleet was pretty stellar

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plenty of main fleet push

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jeanne needs to stay tbh

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or mob jeanne for survivability idk

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i think that's good for this particular mob but

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ancho is clearly barely there

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what devs are plymmy and harbin

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Plymouth is 27

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Max level

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Harbin is 21, lv 106

grizzled light
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anshan or chang only options here tbh

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can you use all gold gens

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to finish off harbin

grizzled light
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using drek would cripple asw too much

left summit
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So focus on maxing harbin?

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how many gen prints do you have

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A grand total of 0

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then just an shan

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wellll

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kron yuudachi chang

gilded frigate
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could try double dipping ASW planes on Uni I guess

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but i have wyvern

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well uni dmg can suck it

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just double avenger uni

left summit
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Question 1 what should I use on An /chang

Question 2 am I replacing kaze or yudachi

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replace kaza in this case

left summit
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chang would use like, 130 missile 134 seal depth charge

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gud

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dont +13 the burger

gilded frigate
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or anymore standard fighters

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or 114 iunno

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good enough

left summit
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Alright let's give it a stab

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tbh i kinda lost a little point of ara when it's just aquila uni

gilded frigate
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yeah and they're not going for lethal 3 star anyway

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not like they can

left summit
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This new fleet works better

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worked better once ShimaThink sample size

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5 huh

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just lethal things

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probably a combo of gear problems as well

left summit
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Vanguard got squishy

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kron yuudachi is pretty tanky

left summit
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Might be rng, engaging the yellow 2 triangle fleets seem fine to destroy, but when your forced to fight the res 3 triangle fleets, they begin to cause issues

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the escort fleets prob do more dmg to you than BB nodes

left summit
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So should engage BB nodes more? Even if they are red triangles?

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you're draining affinity for stats

left summit
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Affinity is Meh, I only oath royal navy ships

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they still have +6% on 100 aff

left summit
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Owo

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Maybe that's why they are trash

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Anyway, im off to bed, will try after work and send feedback

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ye

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cant help that

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youre running a near top vanguard

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i see

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shame for no lethal 3*

left summit
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Although I would appreciate some help building a fleet for 14-4

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for 14-4

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it's basically just swapping musashi and uvh back to AP

left summit
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Is it sub heavy?

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escort fleets are sub heavy

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Hm right

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so take escort fleets only on ammo

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bb nodes have no subs

left summit
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Bb nodes have no subs?

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nope

left summit
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Nice any AP gun recommendations?

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the triple 410 on musashi and triple 460 on uvh

left summit
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(Just keeping chat open)

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Finally 14-3 done, it's just a change to BB Ap guns then for 14-4? @final parcel

gilded frigate
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yeah since the boss is medium armor

left summit
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Yea the fleet can just handle it

left summit
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Okay, so mob fleet is a little squishy, boss fleet is perfectly fine

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a little surprised at saying boss perfectly fine

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but works

left summit
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Not had an issue with it yet

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@final parcel

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aquila rudder DunktsukiStare cant help chang though

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or on zero ammo

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Musashi is also taking a beating on boss fights and been close to death alot

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that's lethal things

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to be expected

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left summit
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Okay so I've played a few games

Mob fleet
I've found if your target and make use of ammo nodes and subs, the fleet is decent, aquilla and chung can be a little mushy, but uni, fdg, kron and Yudachi are decent

As for boss fleets
Musashi is very very squishy, quickly getting destroyed by mass production battleships, vanguard can hold fine and uvh and shinano are also okay, it's just musashi is more like mushashi

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they're not decent

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they're near BiS

left summit
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Bis?

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best in slot

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musashi is also the tankiest backliner

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did you keep rudder on her?

gilded frigate
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Musashi also isn't squishy

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gilded frigate
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she is in fact one of if not the tankiest backliners in the game

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This is my current loadout for 14-4 boss node musashi

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Yet is musashi that keeps getting destroyed

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uvh and shinano are also getting protected by musashi's skills

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" While this ship is above 40% HP: grants the "Musashi's Guardianship" status to all your other Main Fleet ships. Ships with this status:

No longer take Ramming DMG;
Force Musashi to become Detected as well if they become Detected;
Cause Musashi to be prioritized by enemy attacks if they are both valid targets."

left summit
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Uvh and Shinano are perfectly fine

gilded frigate
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this part is what's causing her to take so much damage

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are u using these recommendations without knowing what they do

gilded frigate
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and why UvH and Shinano are doing fine

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is uvh on 457 or 460

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Uvh and Shinano

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hm hm

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agir jeanne shima right?

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put shinano flag

gilded frigate
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probably allowing production BBs to live too long

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ancho main tank

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but hmm

gilded frigate
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no idea how this clears

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has musashi been dying

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or just close

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coz lethal cuts every fleet close to dying

left summit
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Current fleets

gilded frigate
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might help to Musashi to the off flag position

left summit
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Same as 14-3 but BBs have AP guns

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probably shinano flag is good

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agir needs d25 to replace anchorage

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I am focusing her rn anyway, 2weeks ago she was dev 12

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Is Plymouth any good?

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has musashi actually died in these runs

left summit
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i see

gilded frigate
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I've played 6 times getting to boss and she's died 4 of the 6 times

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did you have nj or volga/vanny

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Current state of Plymouth + oath bonus

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And I have implacable maxed too

gilded frigate
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get Plymouth to Dev 30 and she'll make a monstrous mob fleet tank

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do you have more tenrais

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implacable with tenrai might be fine enough

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implacable with tenrai and saiuns and beacon, and have shinano slow

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Vanny is maxed also

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i see

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can you buy the tenrai with protocore

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@gilded frigate do you think vanguard is better than uvh here

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gilded frigate
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could go either way TBH

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I don't think she'll make a difference though TBH

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i used musashi shinano unicorn jervis suzut wakat once

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on a non-safe one fleet

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cos boss fleet died

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All my lv 100+ ships if it helps

gilded frigate
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how far off is Haku from Dev 30?

left summit
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Dev 26

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haku doesnt seem like a useful change from shinano

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just try moving musashi to off flag and keep moving along

gilded frigate
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I was thinking Nano and Haku

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yknow you can also restart the node before flag dies

left summit
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How?

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press pause and leave battle

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you just have to repay entry cost of 1 oil/ship

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That's fair

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yea so u can stop repeating the entire run per failed clear

gilded frigate
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best way to take less damage is to kill those production BBs faster

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Haku not being Dev 30 isn't as big of a deal for W14 TBH

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if anything it makes things easier

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maybe table musashi is good

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I'll see what I can do with this new info, thanks

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musashi shinano are probably too close

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i thought shinano was far enough away at first tho

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why didnt i recc musashi hpfcr

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it's 13/16/~22 timers

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just stagger musashi

left summit
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So shinano on main works better than musahi, but wdym by table/hpfcr?

gilded frigate
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the aux gear

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Admiralty Fire Control Table/ High Standard Fire Control Radar

left summit
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Equip that to Musashi?

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If so what do I give fdg since table is on her

gilded frigate
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just give Musashi a Fire Control Radar

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for the purposes of staggering they're functionally the same

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yea

left summit
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Seems to be working quite well thanks

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smh i'm so rusty

left summit
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Hopefully once they stop being moody I can safe zone it and grind for New Orleans

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Then I'll just be missing 2 boats

left summit
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Thanks for your help tho guys, think I can manage from here @final parcel @gilded frigate