W14

[violet sparrow]

Creating thread

[elfin plaza]

[lyric dagger]

tuog

[elfin plaza]

Is your goal to lethal 3 star

Or to just clear

[proud raptor]

u might want a better DD

[lyric dagger]

hmmm

[violet sparrow]

Lethal 3 star I guess

[lyric dagger]

kazagumo scylla

[violet sparrow]

I actually did

[elfin plaza]

Oh fuck

[lyric dagger]

i think both ancho and kala need to be in boss

[elfin plaza]

Uh you might need to manual

[lyric dagger]

your fleets need a rework

or manual

[violet sparrow]

With unicorn Albion and klaudia ytd for 14-1 on auto

[lyric dagger]

post dock sorted by rarity from URs through SRs, filtered by main fleet then vanguard

smth smth

[paper flame]

3 star lethal is more of a dont bother unless you have perfect gear

[elfin plaza]

Sort by rarity

You will defo need to level new ships

[violet sparrow]

They barely got through clearing all the mobs off the map for 3rd star

[elfin plaza]

Sort by rarity and show everything up until blue ships @violet sparrow

[elfin plaza]

14-1 is like a third as hard as 14-3 lethal 3 star

Basically the uh torture starts on 14-2 boss

[violet sparrow]

Mainfleets

[elfin plaza]

Everything at and after 14-2 boss is uh

Where w14 meme came from

[violet sparrow]

Vanguards

[elfin plaza]

Show all purple ships

Every single one

[violet sparrow]

Aight one sec

[elfin plaza]

Also i will tell you to max agir and azuma

Just so you know

Maybe haku and chkalov and plymouth too

[winged gust]

it's already an iffy auto clear at this point

let alone an auto lethal 3 star

[elfin plaza]

Its already hard to reliably auto clear

You dont have uh, another UR bb?

[violet sparrow]

Getting to agir, saving coins atm to finish the build

[violet sparrow]

Nope unfortunately

[elfin plaza]

Substantially harder

To even clear

[solid crater]

[violet sparrow]

Mainfleet purples

Vanguard purples

[elfin plaza]

i think odin might fill in boss

[violet sparrow]

Gg

[winged gust]

ok good you have An Shan and Chang Chun

[elfin plaza]

What were you doing in the game man

0 rainbow ships

[violet sparrow]

Oh I have their retro items

[violet sparrow]

I started right before York 2

[elfin plaza]

Did you like quit

[winged gust]

get them leveled up and retrofitted then

[elfin plaza]

For 4 years

[elfin plaza]

Ooh

[violet sparrow]

Pepega

[elfin plaza]

I saw penelope and was mistaken her with gloucester for a sec

And i was happy

[winged gust]

let's for go lethal 3 star at this point

what's the state of Agir and Azuma right now?

[violet sparrow]

Where should they go after I get them up and running?

[winged gust]

mob fleet

[violet sparrow]

Basically missing 50k coins to complete agir research, have 350 ish prints to get her to dev 25 ish

[elfin plaza]

So for mob: fdg unicorn haku/chkalov (need dev30), plymouth harbin and chang chun or kazagumo/hammann2 instead of chang

[winged gust]

ok good

[violet sparrow]

Azuma is absolutely not started haha

[violet sparrow]

Haku is dev 30

[winged gust]

ok I'd go

[elfin plaza]

Ok amazing

[winged gust]

Mob: Patricia, Klaudia, Unciorn, Kala, An Shan, Chang Chun

[opaque breach]

Wait what’s your boss?

[elfin plaza]

For boss you can go haku/chkalov (whoever leftover) odin and yorktown 2, agir azuma anchorage

[opaque breach]

I take it no yuudachi retro item?

[winged gust]

Boss: FDG, Implacable, Haku, Agir, [insertshiphere], Anchorage

[violet sparrow]

I was gonna run enty, York 2, implac, anchor, kaza, Sirius

[winged gust]

that middle slot in the boss I like to throw Jeanne d' Arc there

[violet sparrow]

Yea don’t have it

[elfin plaza]

Do dis if you want lethal 3 star

Cheeky setup gud enough for clears

And use submarines on fights out of ammo

[violet sparrow]

Yea about subs, is it ok if they don’t have ideal gear?

[winged gust]

extra damage is extra damage

[elfin plaza]

They want ideal gear

Your fleet already scuffed

The less you have the more fucked it is

[opaque breach]

G7e will be fine

[violet sparrow]

😵‍💫

[elfin plaza]

G7e and whatever listed on ectl

[elfin plaza]

Run snorkel and hull design on all 3

Dagger on all 3

[violet sparrow]

Ok guess it’s a bit more work before I can do w14 so I’ll work towards those fleets listed

[opaque breach]

Switch the torpedo on all but u37 and you’re good

[violet sparrow]

Ah I need to save up to buy more. In the process of switching them out

[elfin plaza]

Also uh, bidder or g7e on all 3

[elfin plaza]

Ye well

[violet sparrow]

W14 rly sux eh

[opaque breach]

G7e is pretty easy, craft via gearlab (more common starter torp) or prints

[opaque breach]

Luo hates a certain node

[elfin plaza]

It is not 100% consistent even with mega leviathan setups designed to destroy it

THE FUCKING AOBA WAVE ON THE BB NODE

[violet sparrow]

Wut which node

[elfin plaza]

😡😡😡

[opaque breach]

BB 3

BB fleets are annoying

Cruisers you can deal with if you have enough ASW

[elfin plaza]

So the strongest setup for w14 right, is what i described with a few adjustments

Let me show setup

[opaque breach]

Should I show my lethal 3 star comp?

[violet sparrow]

Why not haha

[elfin plaza]

this is the strongest

except the chkalov aux is wrong

swap to this aux

some variation of this comp is what is the best

for w14 lethal 3 sta

[opaque breach]

Mob and boss (don’t copy this, this is a bad fleet which I used because this was all I had at the time)

[elfin plaza]

r

[elfin plaza]

oh because you want stagger

[violet sparrow]

Where do I even get that aux

[elfin plaza]

and helena provide nothing on stagger setups

[winged gust]

I ended up using an old comp for my lethal 3 star runs

[elfin plaza]

one was from albion event iirc and the other from the recent russian raid

[winged gust]

FDG, Unicorn retro, Volga, Brest, Poi Kai, Plymouth

[elfin plaza]

so in this setup right, you do everything normally until the 2 battleship in the bb node spawns right

chkalov line up perfectly to their spawn

one shot the entire wave

[opaque breach]

And kill the command ship

[elfin plaza]

fdg with 457 and table follows up and clean up

so after this wave

A FUCKING WAVE WITH A 39K HP COMMANDER BOAT AND 24K HP REPAIR BOAT SHOW UP

this is like more than double the hp of any other mob in w14

and on lethal 3 star when out of ammo, your frontline is not even scratching them

you dont even see their hp bar visibly fall

you see it slowly reduce

and the commander boat is placed uber high up, so you cannot reach it with wyvern

and the repair boat is in middle, so if you are using converging torpedo bombers, you will automatically target repair boat instead

bc repair boat has highest target priority

[opaque breach]

Wonder if a converging torp from klaudia could kill it

[elfin plaza]

you can, but it will target repair

thats why i ran uh, bf109g on unicorn right

[opaque breach]

Not if klaudia fires after unikai

[elfin plaza]

wyvern + tigercat is not enough to one shot the repair

[opaque breach]

[elfin plaza]

oh thats impossible, cuz just the wave before (2bb wave) your klaudia or shinano or haku or whatever will fire and one shot them

so they are on cooldown

and is revealed

if you dont one shot 2 bb they will maul you

[opaque breach]

Can’t wait for w15 where they just double 14 and call it a day

[winged gust]

nah

[lyric dagger]

AA dmg focused on vanguard

[winged gust]

it's W14 but with the plane threat from W13 in full

[elfin plaza]

so what would happen was, your strong cv is revealed bc she just fired airstrike

uni is not enough to one shot command and repair boat

fdg just fired to clean up

[winged gust]

maybe even having to deal with shelling from a Yamato

[lyric dagger]

tbh, with wyverns, w13 aa threat on w14 isnt even that much more difficult

[elfin plaza]

and in w14, command boats fire shells that light your backline on fire

[opaque breach]

The item (paper) allows all Russian ships to negate damage for 4 seconds

[paper flame]

except the damage isnt what hurts

[opaque breach]

So when chkalov is revealed, she takes the shots (but since paper) it doesn’t do anything

[elfin plaza]

so uh, my strat was basically unicorn use bf109g one shot repair boat, then the 39k hp command boat will just sit there right, then you stall until fdg fire again

ye its the reveal

[paper flame]

its the 10 burn ticks and getting revealed is what kills

[elfin plaza]

fdg kill command boat, last wave 2 big suicide along with 2 small suicide spawn

and it is impossible for frontline to kill everything right

you kinda have to line up an airstrike

[paper flame]

hey luo find me a fleet without ply

[elfin plaza]

which uni uses

[elfin plaza]

nah man every other vanguard is just weak

ply is good

[opaque breach]

Or just don’t focus on BB nodes when clearing

[elfin plaza]

everyone else shit

[paper flame]

ive been trying to find a fleet without ply, ara and glou

[elfin plaza]

[paper flame]

scyllas pretty based ngl

[elfin plaza]

is scylla st dmg enough to kill prod

[paper flame]

i find her better than harb at times

not on 0 ammo

[elfin plaza]

noone except ply can do that

[paper flame]

she kinda 1 taps them

[violet sparrow]

Scylla damage is pretty disgusting

[elfin plaza]

ig what im trying to say is that, even after the stall part, the command boat wave right, theres 2 big suicide prod ships follow up with 2 small suicide bombers, and you kinda have to line up unicorn airstrike there

or you fucking die

cuz 2 big prod ships wont really yk, do too much dmg (unless you already revealed), they will reveal you

and 2 small suicide will delete you

[violet sparrow]

I still Dk why she isn’t tier 0 when sandy is

[lyric dagger]

they changin t0 cls

[elfin plaza]

you kind of have to time either chkalov (or whatever your other cv is) or unicorn

to fire on that wave

fdg is not good enough cuz bb lmao, and she using 457, on out of ammo

her dmg suck vs light

[violet sparrow]

Ooo in what sense?

[lyric dagger]

downtiering

[winged gust]

yeah Harbin and Plymouth kinda screwed over CL tiering

[elfin plaza]

in my setup i used both harbin and ply

[lyric dagger]

and kuyby yat sen scylla

[elfin plaza]

they are more than good enough

[lyric dagger]

just plymouth is fine

because she is the only tex cl

t0 is cramped tho

[elfin plaza]

but ya thats why you use submarines

if your line up isnt perfect

[lyric dagger]

t0/t1

[elfin plaza]

you kinda just perish on out of ammo

use submarines on the last wave with 2 big suicides, or the commander boat wave

and then your problem is only for one shotting 2 bb wave

which you kinda want a rainbow cv for

[violet sparrow]

So we’ll see fewer t0s and a revision of the ships in t0?

[elfin plaza]

rainbow cvs have the bonk

[lyric dagger]

hmm, i think it's just downtiering

ask them in their server

but dont quote me when you ask

[violet sparrow]

Ohh

[elfin plaza]

and the dd wave (the other enemy node type in w14) is just a cluster fuck either way

cuz your asw dmg is halved on out of ammo

and submarines spawn in waves

you kinda can never guarantee perfect asw

and prod ships spawn in waves

[opaque breach]

Just slap ASW on everyone and pray

[elfin plaza]

i do that on my setups

but at the same time right, harbin helps my team take less dmg

so i need less aux

might be different for you if you have no harbin

[elfin plaza]

https://al-data.github.io/nodes

here is the exact spawns

so you can look over them

[opaque breach]

I was using hedgehog + depth charges and two ASW on unikai

Is Scylla fast enough (without much tech) to load a quad mag at 22 seconds?

[elfin plaza]

key is to line up an airstrike to one shot these 2

[lyric dagger]

luo luo

this is too bothersome

[elfin plaza]

stall these 2

okey

ill stop

[lyric dagger]

just say stagger gud

[elfin plaza]

stagger gud

and use subs

[violet sparrow]

Hahahahah thanks for the detailed help though

I’ll work on it

[elfin plaza]

you will understand it better once you run it and realize how your fleets die

but ye have fun in w14

cheeky fleet gud for clears and mine is for lethal 3 star

you can go either

[violet sparrow]

Doesn’t Scylla want the fast reloading purple torps to trigger barrage

[opaque breach]

Yeah but was wondering if she could fire quad mags or if they’re too slow

I wanna give her a try given how often I see her mentioned

[elfin plaza]

i think uh

[opaque breach]

Yeah she’s fast

[violet sparrow]

125 Scylla with barely any tech given my dock

[elfin plaza]

run the fast triple magnetic

idk

[opaque breach]

She wants to sync with carriers

[elfin plaza]

main gun is fine for single target dmg but uh

can swap to 114 for more barrage

either way its fine

[winged gust]

I wouldn't bother trying to sync her

[opaque breach]

W14-2+ is where it gets hard

[elfin plaza]

ya shes more used for bonk

[violet sparrow]

What’s 114?

[opaque breach]

Pr3 DD gun

[violet sparrow]

Triple mag torp or this?

[elfin plaza]

triple mag gud in default cuz her barrage

[violet sparrow]

Oh better than this 550 triple torp?

[lyric dagger]

doubt u=it

i also doubt that the difference even matters

[lyric dagger]

might use 76mm over harbin gun here

[opaque breach]

I just looked at her AOA

Tf

[elfin plaza]

Harbin + ddg i like a lot

But it is rng

For clearing its good enough tho

[violet sparrow]

Is that good or bad

[elfin plaza]

One of the most cracked

[elfin plaza]

Ya shes all barrage

[lyric dagger]

ya, harbin gun isnt the play

maybe 114, but i would 76

[opaque breach]

I put on 76mm

Dear god

[violet sparrow]

You mean the blue one?

Like the one for spam proccing DDs?

[opaque breach]

Yeah