Naxy fleet help

[tidal abyss]

Send your dock here. @tawny narwhal

[tawny narwhal]

thx

so main idea im new and trying to build ships that are good late game while collecting waifus

or good long term

[tidal abyss]

how far into the game are you? what world level

you can pretty much brute force until w11-12

[tawny narwhal]

12-4 is next but 12-3 was very hard

[shell ether]

[tawny narwhal]

this is my 26th day

newbie campaign is powerful so i feel strong

[tidal abyss]

[tawny narwhal]

working on unlocking fdg now

[vapid tree]

You can tho, W12 is where you level garbage for fleet tech

[tawny narwhal]

these are the main fleet ships i have atm

[tidal abyss]

send every gold and purple ship

sorted by vanguard and main

[tawny narwhal]

yeah did not send the blues

[tidal abyss]

are that all the golds and purple oyu have?

[stuck talon]

Enty, QE meta, hood, essex, unicorn, independence, (arizona is kind of funny because only healing battleship, sorta worth) nagato, illustrious, all good

[tawny narwhal]

yes i sorted by gold and purple

these are the vanguards

[shell ether]

nagato is not good :/

[tidal abyss]

Nagato is only good when paired with an all IJN fleet

[hasty tundra]

she's only good when buffing IJN CVs

[stuck talon]

akagi/kaga if you can farm up the other one and use together, helena is cracked, portland good, yuudachi insanely op, saint louis, sirius is great with carriers

[hasty tundra]

and even then it's not like you really need her

[stuck talon]

avrora is funny buff meme

[tawny narwhal]

dont have yuudachi retrofit special item:(

[hasty tundra]

also don't farm Akagi and Kaga other than for collection purposes

[shell ether]

it takes both akaga to beat a single ship, never worth using them

[vapid tree]

So the ships that are gonna stay good late into the game are sirius and independence

[tawny narwhal]

Sirius good?

[tidal abyss]

Sirius is a CV buffer

standard CV fleet buffer

[hasty tundra]

CV buffer

[tawny narwhal]

ok

[vapid tree]

Sirius good

[tawny narwhal]

also have some good blues, like Kagerou and Yuugure

[shell ether]

take advantage of the newbie mission to retrofit your portland

[stuck talon]

Nagato + akaga + sirius is dummy thicc damage

[vapid tree]

And you don’t have a better tank than Portland in your dock

[tawny narwhal]

and i heard casa blanca maybe good too

[shell ether]

thats cope

[vapid tree]

Akagi Kaga is bad, don’t waste your time

[hasty tundra]

Casablanca is irrelevant when you have Independence

[tawny narwhal]

oh ok

[vapid tree]

Dated design, boring, underpowered

[tawny narwhal]

Kaga farming is intimidating

[vapid tree]

Don’t waste your time with akagi kaga

[tidal abyss]

Kagerou only good with retrofit and her augment and even then she's more of a torp meme vanguard ship

[stuck talon]

All the "starter DD"s are good too, especially laffey/ayanami, javelin and z23 respectable too

[real moss]

z23 for kms tech too

[shell ether]

only reason to use akaga right now is pvp, and thats only in the newest server even then
they get outperformed by souryuu and hiryuu

[tawny narwhal]

i leveled Kagerou for that daily where you need torpedos plus she was cheap to upgrade

still dont have z23..

[stuck talon]

The thing is people build comps around surviving burst in pvp at 20seconds

[real moss]

z23 will drop eventually during farming

[vapid tree]

Z46 gives more fleet tech and I think is slightly better

[stuck talon]

people dont use belfast to counter foxes anymore

[tawny narwhal]

kms tech is 650/700, in a week i unlock fdg most likely which makes it 700+

[tidal abyss]

because Anchorage exists and is better lol

[stuck talon]

achorage doesnt get her smokescreen off during akaga airstrike

she usually just dies

[tidal abyss]

what yes she does

[vapid tree]

The fuck?

[tidal abyss]

the fuck how

[hasty tundra]

also why are you reccomending ships based solely off PVP performance

one of the least impactful nodes of the game

[shell ether]

even if she doesnt get her smoke off thats fine
considering how garbage the damage is

[stuck talon]

only responding to this

[tawny narwhal]

i use pvp for xp farming, i dont care about it further than that

[tidal abyss]

unless you were fighting Anchorages with quad mags or what not which is

[stuck talon]

but they're also good at clearing trash?

[vapid tree]

Nope

[shell ether]

[hasty tundra]

Unicorn Retro and Indpendenec Retro exists

and is better

[tidal abyss]

anything is good at clearing trash

[hasty tundra]

and easier to raise and obtain

[tawny narwhal]

so independence and sirius should be next targets to build

that are not impossible to get ships

and i already have

[stuck talon]

But akaga literally clear trash faster than 97% of other ships

[hasty tundra]

also clearing trash isn't exactly a mean feat

[vapid tree]

Like let’s face it, kaga akagi have been powercrept and their design is so dated now that they’re just obsolete

[shell ether]

akaga just sucks, sure cope for nagato, there might be some justification in using her for timing , but akaga is just shit

[vapid tree]

Every single Essex class ship is better

[hasty tundra]

considering over half the ships in this game are garbo, that's not exactly hard

[stuck talon]

this game is 80% about clearing trash, might as well clear it twice as fast?

[shell ether]

imagine using 8 gold bulins just to perform wose then a purple

[hasty tundra]

Unicorn retro is cheaper and better than the pair of them combined for clearing trash

[vapid tree]

Then just use unicorn, or other preloaders

[tawny narwhal]

i was also told to build Biloxi for Independce

[hasty tundra]

throw in Independence Retro and yeah

Akagi and Kaga look like commons

[stuck talon]

Literally just desync their airstrike by half a sec and you gucci

but yes uni and inde are great too

you almost cant play this game with uni

[vapid tree]

Independence retro is a very strong ship, but what are you lacking rn

[stuck talon]

without*

[vapid tree]

Do you think you’re lacking damage or survivability

[shell ether]

indepence doesnt need anyone, she is the premier mobbing cvl along with unicorn

[tawny narwhal]

well on 12-3 the hard part was that the airplanes killed the backline

most likely i have no clue how to assign the aa weapons

so stop building biloxi

[stuck talon]

fast AA goes on almost everything, slow AA goes on CLs

[hasty tundra]

she's not necessary

[stuck talon]

(slow AA goes on high AA ships)

[hasty tundra]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb use this as a gear guide

[tawny narwhal]

i think she is my premier aa

[shell ether]

try 3 cvs
Independence Essex Unicorn
Enterprise for bossing
main way to counter aa is still acv

[vapid tree]

I mean you can honestly just slap bofors and roomba on everyone and call it a day

[stuck talon]

yeah that's a horrible gun for helena

[tawny narwhal]

whats acv?

[stuck talon]

do you have a roomba?

[hasty tundra]

air space control/ value

[tawny narwhal]

how do i get that:D

[vapid tree]

Are you using the enterprise fleet for bossing?

[stuck talon]

do you have one of these for helena?

[tawny narwhal]

yes

[stuck talon]

it is just a possible drop from gold boxes

[tawny narwhal]

hmm

[shell ether]

even if you have amazing aa ships . if you dont have airspace control then it just wont work

[stuck talon]

yeah, she wants this

it's basically BIS forever

[shell ether]

and bofors are perfectly fine

[hasty tundra]

yeah

you need better AA Guns

[tawny narwhal]

how do i get them:D

[hasty tundra]

tech boxes, gear lab

[stuck talon]

Lol stop telling new players to get gear lab equips

[shell ether]

Use enough CVs so that airspace is green, it will solve a lot of your issues

[tawny narwhal]

these?

[stuck talon]

Yes

[tawny narwhal]

so need to build more cvs

[tidal abyss]

that's the best poverty CL gun. not too terrible

[stuck talon]

Also you can farm blueprints for AA guns from certain campaign maps

[shell ether]

Getting an independence retrofitwill go a long way

[hasty tundra]

yeah don't farm gear BPs in the campaign

[vapid tree]

You could just use CVs since they can intercept enemy planes and that is stronger than normal AA

[tawny narwhal]

got independence a few days ago

[shell ether]

thats a terrible idea

[stuck talon]

[hasty tundra]

honestly here's my advice

[shell ether]

drop rates for gear in campaign maps are utter garbage

[tawny narwhal]

dont have any bullins atm

😄

[stuck talon]

So do please elaborate and tell them how they can get stuff from gear lab faster, I'd love to know

[hasty tundra]

you've speedran the early portion of the game, slow down and start consolidating and leveling up your ships in W12

[shell ether]

u cleaned out the shop for phase 2a already?

[tawny narwhal]

kinda

[stuck talon]

I mean they can literally even farm purple roombas and those are pretty decent

and very ez to get

[tidal abyss]

would rather farm to get coins and xp over farming for gear specifically

[shell ether]

uhhh might have to warm you, dont buy everything from that shop

[tawny narwhal]

farming event atm

yeah i try to save for phase 3

[shell ether]

you dont get enough currency to buy everything

[tawny narwhal]

i realized it when i almost emptied first shop

now im more careful

[hasty tundra]

what do you mean faster, I just told them they could get better AA guns from the gear lab

[stuck talon]

Okay would you rather have coins and exp or 70% of the coins and exp but also gear

[tawny narwhal]

i mean right now my main focus is FDG but also wanted to know which ships i should invest in

sirius independence for sure

my weapons are an utter mess probably

[shell ether]

give me a few seconds, ill colorcode your ships

[hasty tundra]

as has been said, the drops and the rates are both shit for gear prints in the main camapign

[vapid tree]

You don’t really have anything else worth investing into long term

[tawny narwhal]

i have 2 teams that are above 110+

so thats good

and now farming event for fdg xp

[hasty tundra]

no in point farming worse maps for that

[stuck talon]

Yup, dont open up azur lane again until you have FDG then you can start playing the real game

[tawny narwhal]

cant clear better maps with my german main

[stuck talon]

That's weird, it almost sounds like you could go to easier maps and farm gear while you're at it

[tawny narwhal]

i mean im spending oil atm on event map

[hasty tundra]

they're literally in W12, don't get much easier than that

[tidal abyss]

you could do 2 German ships + Unicorn

[tawny narwhal]

w12 would kill them

[vapid tree]

That would work

[hasty tundra]

on safe lol no

[stuck talon]

I don't think W12 is very easy with that backline

[hasty tundra]

especially in 12-1

[tidal abyss]

on safe yes they'll survive

[tawny narwhal]

tried 12-1, they were almost dead after second group

[tidal abyss]

Uni + 2 German IB is what I'm doing rn for AvP

[hasty tundra]

have you got it down to safe?

did you set the fleet formation to circular

[hasty tundra]

that is not safe

[tawny narwhal]

thx:D

[vapid tree]

Beat the map several times and the map becomes easier, it’s a mechanic

[tawny narwhal]

ok

[tidal abyss]

again Uni + 2 German backliners

[shell ether]

You focus on the green ships, yellow ships are fine to use if you need a specific role

[tawny narwhal]

kinda was farming qe meta skills at the same time also:D

[shell ether]

Like if you are struggling really hard on w13, lusty is useful

[tawny narwhal]

who?

[shell ether]

But if you finish ships like Saratoga and independence you should be fine

[tidal abyss]

Illustrious

[shell ether]

Illustrious

[tawny narwhal]

oh

[tidal abyss]

Sara is also helpful. No bias there

[vapid tree]

You would probably need a healer if you’re farming Gneisenau and Scharnhorst, I wouldn’t put QE with them

[hasty tundra]

this is why you want to get the map down to safe then farm

[shell ether]

You want to built towards
Saratoga Unicorn Independence
Enterprise Essex QE meta ( that’s if you max skills)

[tawny narwhal]

ok

[shell ether]

For now hood does her job perfectly, her augment will be very useful especially if you think you don’t want or lack resources to invest into Saratoga
Hood as mob bb works

[tawny narwhal]

so get down threat level

[tidal abyss]

is your QE META max limit broken as well? seeing as she's missing 1 star she's missing like 40% of her damage

[tawny narwhal]

then just unicorn 2 german man the map

[hasty tundra]

pretty much

[tawny narwhal]

need more collection for qe meta

getting less than a 1000 a day

this is another 10 days or so

[shell ether]

Take your time, hood works for basically everything for now

[tawny narwhal]

thx

this might work