14-2+ fleet build help

[wintry lily]

Need some help building a fleet for 14-2 onwards, I know how to gear the ships, just need help with fleet building

All shipgirls lv 105+

[echo harness]

Just use FDG/Unikai/aquila for mob

Musashi + any UR combination for boss

[wintry lily]

And for vanguard?

[echo harness]

14-2 has no subs, 14-3 onwards lots of subs so better put up some DDs

[wintry lily]

Any recommendations?

[echo harness]

Jervis could tank but she's too underleveled for w14

And ur other tanks like brest and agir are not at least dev25

[wintry lily]

Yea I'm working on Agir now

I've been using Kron and Azuma for tanks in the meantime

[echo harness]

Drake can mobtank i suppose

[wintry lily]

I presume Yuki and Shima should be used for ASW roles?

[echo harness]

Yes put hedgehog on 1 of them

[round dragon]

yuki?

[wintry lily]

So um here's the thing

I don't have hedgehogs

[echo harness]

Wait yuki isnt really a good option

[wintry lily]

Best asw launchers I have is the advanced purple depth charge launchers

[round dragon]

hedgehog is literally free

[wintry lily]

Hedgehog is literally scrapped accidentally when I was still a noob

[round dragon]

severe skill issue

use depth charges then

[echo harness]

Yes depth charges, if not enough go for asw planes as well

[wintry lily]

What DDs should I use

[round dragon]

jervis if you could level her up

[wintry lily]

Anyone else?

[echo harness]

Shimakaze yuudachi

[round dragon]

shima, yuudachi, suzutsuki, ...

[echo harness]

14-3 boss u can use both ddg since boss is light

[wintry lily]

So 14-3 onwards vanguard should be all DD?

[round dragon]

dds is the most straight forward way

[wintry lily]

Fair

[echo harness]

Id prefer using a real tank for both mob and boss, and fill the rest with dd

[round dragon]

uni and aquilla makes it unkillable anyways

[wintry lily]

So this is alright (after I level up

Jervis)*

[round dragon]

jervis offtank

[echo harness]

^

[wintry lily]

So that's alright?

[echo harness]

Ddg only for 14-3 tho, u might want to change them to yuudachi and kaza for 14-4

[wintry lily]

Good to know, thanks

[round dragon]

aquila fighter mode

[wintry lily]

Would this fleet be fine to use for 14-2 too?

[round dragon]

14-2 is braindead easy compared to what comes after

[round dragon]

cool

[wintry lily]

.

[round dragon]

dont you have a wyvern?

[round dragon]

.

[echo harness]

using subs will help to make it easier

just a reminder

[wintry lily]

Thanks, im good at subs at least lol

[drifting fjord]

Aiyaa

Jervis is shit offtank

Paper boss vanguards are dead

And Kron is just a better drake

[zealous badger]

aiyaaaa

this is no good

so many betters

[drifting fjord]

So
Fdg aquila unicorn Kron Changchun Anshan
Musashi Shinano haku azuma Shimakaze anchorage

[zealous badger]

they have heanne

i think they need jeanne

anchorage jeanne shima maybe

john cena

[drifting fjord]

I never need that much surv

[zealous badger]

i did

[drifting fjord]

You have bad DPS though

Or did you use Portland

[zealous badger]

haku isnt d30

I transitioned from portland to ancho by 14-4

[drifting fjord]

Perfect, desync as long as she's 25+

[zealous badger]

rather desync a faster cv than a slow cv

they also have kazagumo

maybe kron kaza chang

kaza much better than jervis sandwich anyways

[drifting fjord]

If it's not a 3 star I don't like Kazagumo DPS
except if triple CV

But I suppose fdg can defend

[zealous badger]

maybe probably

they also have volga

can do the funny volga boss

[drifting fjord]

But using level 119- ships

[zealous badger]

true

FdG Aquila Unicorn Kronshtadt Kazagumo Chang Chun
Volga Musashi UvH Anchorage Jeanne Shimakaze

guess ill gear it

or idk

maybe two cv is better

not like it matters

fleets are strong enough anyways

[wintry lily]

Side note, Kaku is dev level 25, but everyone else dev level wise is maxes

[zealous badger]

I suggest this

wrong twin blues

[wintry lily]

Okay thanks and this is suitable for 14-2 only?

[zealous badger]

14-2 and 14-4
maybe 14-3 musashi wears twin 410

this is ancho proper torp

[drifting fjord]

Yuudachi mid, kaza off 🤏

[wintry lily]

Okay thanks

Any alternatives for Volga? (She's to low of a level)

@zealous badger

[zealous badger]

eh

shinano or smth

yeah just shinano

[wintry lily]

Also, I've got literally all off the AA and Avi (minus 2 wyverns) you've mentioned there on my ships, but I'm still being destroyed by Avi in the boss fight

[zealous badger]

ae

[zealous badger]

that boss is a dps race
too difficult to fight reveal

you are dying or just getting low?

could try putting rudder on musashi

[wintry lily]

Dying, flagship getting knocked out, close to defeating (getting it down to 10-15 left)

[zealous badger]

meh, just flag musashi then

[wintry lily]

Musashi is flag ship

[zealous badger]

try putting rudder aux

[wintry lily]

Would vanguard be better?

[zealous badger]

no

you lost multiple times with that comp?

[wintry lily]

So put high performance hydrolic steering on musashi?

[zealous badger]

ye

[wintry lily]

I've lost 6 of 7 times with it

[zealous badger]

ehh

[wintry lily]

Mob fleet works perfectly

[zealous badger]

and you have shinano currently?

[wintry lily]

Correct

I'll try with the rudder

[zealous badger]

mmm

ohhh

[zealous badger]

what are shinano and musashi's cooldowns

[drifting fjord]

How healthy is the vanguard

[wintry lily]

Defeated 14-2 thanks, steering gear helped alot, what changes do I need to make for 14-3?

@zealous badger

[zealous badger]

twin 410 on musashi

i think that's it maybe

[drifting fjord]

UvH HE too

[zealous badger]

you think so?

[drifting fjord]

Always

[zealous badger]

i forgot where all the HP lies

in BBs vs boss

[drifting fjord]

UvH tickles BBs with AP anyways

[wintry lily]

This is what I have rn

[drifting fjord]

Bb aux guns

Scepter for all carriers

[wintry lily]

Available gear

Should I upgrade BB aux guns to Neppy Guns?

[zealous badger]

nep guns may be a downgrade

the equips that i listed in the picture are triple 155 kai

which has more accurate HE bullets to kill rammers

[wintry lily]

I don't have the mats to make them

[zealous badger]

i see

[wintry lily]

Hence why I settled for those

[zealous badger]

this is good

[wintry lily]

Use them for BB aux?

[zealous badger]

ye

[wintry lily]

Any other changes

[zealous badger]

maybe not

[wintry lily]

Also, I assume I should be doing all this on manual

[zealous badger]

it should've been auto viable by far

[drifting fjord]

I autoed with worse

[zealous badger]

oh well

musashi + rudder is great

[wintry lily]

Alright let's give it a shot

[drifting fjord]

14-3 boss is easy

[zealous badger]

it was harder for me

[drifting fjord]

14-2 boss is the hardest

[zealous badger]

14-4 was harder cos too many waves spawn for subs to clear

[drifting fjord]

14-2

So I just manualed

[wintry lily]

Biggest weakness so far, very mushy vanguard for mob

[zealous badger]

fdg aquila unicorn kron yuudachi kaza?

i even opted yuudachi over chang because yuudachi is tanky

[drifting fjord]

You put too much asw

It's not out of ammo

[zealous badger]

it's only 3 asw

[drifting fjord]

Unicorn and one is enough

[zealous badger]

wym not outof ammo

you mean just treat it like first clearsonly?

[drifting fjord]

It's not a three star lethal

There's only one out of ammo battle

[zealous badger]

ehh

[drifting fjord]

Also doesn't help that kazag is 113 level

[zealous badger]

oh

i didnt read any levels

[wintry lily]

Yea kaza and jeane are not lv120 yet

[zealous badger]

everything should be 120s

125 not necessary for 14

[drifting fjord]

Jeanne is whatever, she doesn't do dmg anyways

But in mob, each level on Kazagumo is a superlinear increase in survival

[wintry lily]

Well this time last week, Kaza was lv1 lol

But yea, main is beginning to suffer from the mushy vanguard

[drifting fjord]

Scepter on every carrier

Feather on aquila

[wintry lily]

Any other changes?

Steering gear on fdg?

[drifting fjord]

I only put defense aux on my level 105 flag BB

Wait why aren't you using the rainbow quad

Put it on fdg or kron

[wintry lily]

This is what I'm working with

[drifting fjord]

Yes, it's a good idea to use a +12 rainbow quad

[wintry lily]

I put it on kron

[drifting fjord]

Ok

I want to switch skypirate to breguet and beacon to catapult for unicorn

[wintry lily]

Alright

Let's give this a try on manual

[drifting fjord]

On manual anything works

[wintry lily]

On manual both Cvs get destroyed with 5 mob ships to go

[drifting fjord]

[wintry lily]

So yea

Should I have single line advice, 2 column defence or circular defence on?

@drifting fjord

[drifting fjord]

Single line if vanguard is healthy
Double line if main fleet is healthy

On manual probably single line

[wintry lily]

Okay so feedback for current loadout

Mob fleet, hold up decent, until the last 5 enemy mob fleets before I get overwhelmed and my mains get destroyed

Boss fleet, main holds up strong, vanguard gets anihalited very quickly

This is in manual

[drifting fjord]

What do you mean by last 5 mob fleets. You're doing 3rd star on lethal?

There are only six mob fleets if not 3rd star

[wintry lily]

I'm doing 3rd star

I like to do beat the boss and 3rd star at once

Any suggestions to improve my odds?

[drifting fjord]

Use gloucester

Should have said you wanted to do 3rd star on lethal

Fleets are built different

If manual, then
Kron Gloucester kazagumo

[wintry lily]

Wdym by lethal sorry?

Should I wait till I 100% before going for 3 stars?

[drifting fjord]

Lethal is like twice as hard as Safe

[drifting fjord]

@zealous badger need 3 asw after all

[wintry lily]

Yea, but still, I need a significant buff to my boss fleet as the vanguard gets Annihilated just trying to do regular mode

1 star mode

[drifting fjord]

I can't help with that, anchorage + Jeanne is already like the tankiest vanguard already

[wintry lily]

Is drake better than anchorage?

Or noshiro?

For Jeane

[drifting fjord]

No way

[zealous badger]

ancho is the second tankiest ship, and jeanne is the best defensive buffer

not much to do with that

[wintry lily]

Alright guess I need to grind kaza and jeane

[wintry lily]

(Just so I can keep this open so I can work out what best to use, ignore this)

Yea sorry, what's my ideal fleet for 14-3?

Mob
Aquilla, FDG, Uni
Drake, Shima and Jervis

Boss
Haikuru, musashi, Shino
Azuma, an shan, chan chung

@drifting fjord @zealous badger (sorry for tag)

[zealous badger]

no

[zealous badger]

@wintry lily

[wintry lily]

I've done 14-2, im now on 14-3

3 starred 14-2

[zealous badger]

pog

[zealous badger]

volga when

[zealous badger]

were you actually using this and complained that you died?

[wintry lily]

I've not tried anything yet

[zealous badger]

what

what did you do 14-2 with?

[wintry lily]

These

[zealous badger]

so you did use these

if you're raising kazagumo and jeanne, also raise volga

[zealous badger]

by the way

well nah

you just posted these a bit out of order

[wintry lily]

Kazagumo is almost lv120, jeane is almost lv118