14-1 fleet help

[open veldt]

my ships are pretty high level but cant seem to get close to beating 14-1, thanks:) i can always grind levels

[ionic ruin]

level dont really matter anymore

since everything you use is lvl 120 or 125 anyway

ships matter more

[signal moat]

Rip that’s the easy part

[ionic ruin]

and ofc equips

[open veldt]

yea my equipments are pretty bad😅

[rich swan]

aight

im pretty sure that you need better ships

[ionic ruin]

so lethal 3 star on auto is kinda out of the question

[regal ore]

Does tw have unicorn retro

[rich swan]

need a strong mob flag

hood isnt it

[open veldt]

i dont have unicorn retro coz its taiwan server

and we are rly behind lol

[regal ore]

And nice dock space

[rich swan]

i think boss fleet could be cool

mob fleet is dead

[open veldt]

uh huh

[rich swan]

need to coin gascogne

[open veldt]

i can try to get her

[rich swan]

with fs5 gasco, maybe ok

[ionic ruin]

yall have access to pr4 right

oh wait i see anchorage

[open veldt]

yep we are at 4

[wind harness]

yeah so no FS5 for PR4 on TW yet right?

[ionic ruin]

is fdg coinable rn?

or not conable

[wind harness]

not

[regal ore]

no klaudia 💀

[ionic ruin]

hm

yall think ryuuhou + indep better or ryuuhou + aquila?

[wind harness]

gonna have to sig up the old meta

[rich swan]

aquila unicorn is still good

[regal ore]

hey i got through 14-2 with arizona solo healing, there is hope

[rich swan]

no shot his ships are tanky enough wi tho out aquila

if he had better ships then ok

[wind harness]

yeah Uni Aquila is what I'd go

[ionic ruin]

but thats pre retro uni

[rich swan]

prekai unicorn is still normal

[ionic ruin]

she kinda eh

for dmg

i think ryuuhou better

[rich swan]

i dont

[open veldt]

im rly not sure when i can retro unicorn... so

[ionic ruin]

ryuuhou can heal backline

but well

[rich swan]

his vang will suck it

smth like eugen kazagumo sandy

or an shan over sandy

[wind harness]

I'd use Eugen on boss but not on mob

[open veldt]

i think sandy wld be on boss too?

[rich swan]

id use eugen on mob cos ancho needs to be on boss

[ionic ruin]

yeah no i think this account is too weak

[rich swan]

yea

[ionic ruin]

not good idea to push w14

[rich swan]

i said wait for ships

is my opinion

[ionic ruin]

if you cant even push 14-1 you will have 0 chance at beating 14-3

[open veldt]

ah ok

[ionic ruin]

14-1 is like 30% of w14 difficulty

[rich swan]

I would totally try this myself but i cant recommend it

[ionic ruin]

a third as hard as 14-3

[rich swan]

he has nj ancho jeanne for boss

[ionic ruin]

ill just make fleet assuming prs are maxed

[rich swan]

but mob fleet too weak

[ionic ruin]

right

[rich swan]

no

just tell him too suk

[open veldt]

Smth like this tho?

[ionic ruin]

why not

[rich swan]

cant do it

[ionic ruin]

[wind harness]

you could use like Noshiro for mob tank

[regal ore]

why do you have so many dupes at 170 dock space

[rich swan]

noshiro is also no dmg

[ionic ruin]

no this will get crushed, replace indep with gascogne fs5

[rich swan]

no difference against eugen tbh

[rich swan]

indep*

[open veldt]

ah ok

[wind harness]

hmm

[regal ore]

don't see gasc 💀

[open veldt]

ill work on her then

[rich swan]

cos i said to get it

[open veldt]

ill try yo get her lol

[rich swan]

u ener

[wind harness]

there's Jeanne I guess

[ionic ruin]

so something like: gascogne aquila unicorn, azuma chang chun an shan

[open veldt]

Isn’t she better tho I’m not sure

[wind harness]

that's at least something

[ionic ruin]

or kaza instead of chang

[rich swan]

i wouldnt generate azuma before fdg

[wind harness]

she is is but she'll take forever to develop

[ionic ruin]

and for bossing, nj odin enterprise, agir filler anchorage

[open veldt]

ah ok

[regal ore]

can you manual?

[open veldt]

yea

[regal ore]

oh then it's easy

[ionic ruin]

do you guys have research queue

[open veldt]

manual as in do i have the time to manual?

[wind harness]

probably not

[open veldt]

yep

[wind harness]

no can you manual well

[ionic ruin]

thank fuck

okay so its realistic to max pr2 for you

or pr3 or pr4

you just have to pick research optimally

[open veldt]

prob not haha

[open veldt]

yea ic

[regal ore]

ticon aquila ryuuhou lindom anshan kazagumo
nj indep enterprise anchorage ayanami jeanne

[wind harness]

oh yeah you'll want subs for W14

with those comps

[regal ore]

trust

[wind harness]

and I thought Ricist was coping with Chihaya

[open veldt]

whats lindom

[regal ore]

l'indomptable

[ionic ruin]

so something like: mob: gascogne aquila unicorn, noshiro kaza an shan
boss: nj indep enterprise agir jeanne anchorage

manual w14

you can just manual normally and beat

[regal ore]

or use sandy since sandy is already leveled

[ionic ruin]

gascogne get big pp dmg boost in manual so she gud

for uh

frontline

put noshiro torp nuke

yk slot the tea cup torp

[open veldt]

uh huh ok

[open veldt]

ill do this then?

[ionic ruin]

this will beat on manual

[regal ore]

ticon super defense, trust me bro

[open veldt]

so mainly work on gascogne and agir

[ionic ruin]

make sure to summon submarines

on fights out of ammo

[ionic ruin]

agir only need dev15

[wind harness]

PR4 as a whole TBH, you can just can coin Gascogne

[ionic ruin]

and gascogne want fs5

[open veldt]

Is she worse than ticon

[open veldt]

whats fs

[ionic ruin]

fate sim

[open veldt]

not sure whats that sorry...

[regal ore]

ticon is way better than essex in anything but heavy dps

ticon has all the defense

[ionic ruin]

this is fate sim

[regal ore]

imagine converting to protocore

[wind harness]

uhh, the thing you do after you get some ships to Dev 30

[open veldt]

sandy subbing jeane or agir

[open veldt]

i dont think i have that lol

[regal ore]

subbing l'indomptable if you're using my fleets

[open veldt]

ohhhhh

wait sorry

[ionic ruin]

you dont have that for pr2?

[open veldt]

i havent got to that then

[regal ore]

use aegir and gascogne once you get them

[wind harness]

they probably don't have it for FDG

[open veldt]

ok got it

[ionic ruin]

mob: gascogne aquila unicorn, noshiro kaza an shan
boss: nj indep enterprise agir jeanne anchorage

manual gaming

actually ayanami can replace an shan prob

since manual

[regal ore]

id keep anshan

thats probably augless aya

[ionic ruin]

oh fuck

[regal ore]

id keep anshan over aug aya too

[open veldt]

i got all these alr?

[rich swan]

what are you u going to do, manually ram aya into rammer boats?

[ionic ruin]

ya

[rich swan]

u gonna sit on torps just to hit those bachelaugh

[ionic ruin]

ya

thats literally manual w14

[rich swan]

rip aya's torps

[regal ore]

you do. But some of them are low level, like l'indomptable. So you can use sandy instead of lindomptable

[open veldt]

this is ok too

[ionic ruin]

my fleet should be better on manual

[rich swan]

im not a huge fan of noshi anymore

[regal ore]

it's better

[open veldt]

that can beat 14-1?

[rich swan]

noshi was super squishy when i used her

[regal ore]

14-1 is tutorial

[rich swan]

fine enough with aq tho

[open veldt]

ill still work on the other two

[ionic ruin]

14-1 is like a third as strong as 14-3 and 14-4

[rich swan]

14-1 is tutorial because fewer 3* nodes spawn

[open veldt]

uh huh

[ionic ruin]

you can literally farm in 14-1

it is easy as fuck

[open veldt]

lol ok

[ionic ruin]

i farm in 14-1 for exp

[open veldt]

ill work on this then

[rich swan]

i did a full six ship leveling fleet in 14-1

leveling yk2 odin klaudia

[ionic ruin]

the real w14 starts at the 14-2 boss, 14-2 boss is your first rude awakening

you will die a lot

but trust me it gets easier

[open veldt]

lol ok

[ionic ruin]

14-2 boss is like the hardest w14 boss stage in terms of clear success

[regal ore]

This worked for 14-2 on manual (barely)

🚪 🏃‍♂️

[wind harness]

also use subs if you have them

[ionic ruin]

and 14-3 is easy on manual, but on lethal 3 star in auto you will mald

[open veldt]

i dont have good ones but i have a few

[ionic ruin]

14-3 lethal 3 star is hard even for manual for you

so dont do it

do just clear

then slowly bring it to safe then 3 star

[open veldt]

Got it

[rich swan]

people dont usually obsess with lethal 3* luo

[open veldt]

Thank you so much

[ionic ruin]

14-4 is easier

[rich swan]

im one of the few people who really ground that out

[ionic ruin]

i was

on w14 release i was actually malding at 14-3

[rich swan]

as a first clear, i barely see anyone try it

[regal ore]

nobody tries it because they all have ships dying in 3 battles

[ionic ruin]

ye

on release ppl literally didnt have teams to beat stage on ammo

cuz like the concept of staggering wasnt even a popular thing yet

[rich swan]

u sure? i think i remember people staggering for w13

at least i staggered my CVs

[ionic ruin]

it wasnt a popular thing

[open veldt]

is lindom better or noshiro for mob

coz im doing kaza anshan and either noshiro or lindom

thanks:)

[regal ore]

idk probably noshiro

[ionic ruin]

just use the ships i suggested

[regal ore]

but lindom is zooming

[ionic ruin]

noshiro manual gud

[rich swan]

indom manual probably more dmg

[regal ore]

can't take dmg if you're behind the enemies

[open veldt]

yea but then u one of u suggested lindom and one suggested noshiro so... sry

[regal ore]

noshiro single 150mm

[open veldt]

Lindom is her tho r😅

[ionic ruin]

stigma was mostly memeing

cuz french dds run fast

and running fast = funny

[open veldt]

oh...

[regal ore]

i was thinking lindom super tank but then i put ryuuhou so just use noshiro

[ionic ruin]

indomp good tho, but noshiro better in manual

[open veldt]

got it

[regal ore]

https://youtu.be/9GhPA-S9AX4

[open veldt]

so ryuhou or unicorn lmao

coz ill use noshiro now

[ionic ruin]

look at funny lindom

look at this beautiful fgo strat

[ionic ruin]

uni good

[open veldt]

got it tysm

ill wait for netro too

[ionic ruin]

you dont need to wait retro

as long as the fleets are maxed its doable to beat w14

[open veldt]

yep this then

[open veldt]

ah ok

tysm tysm:)

[open veldt]

Are the lvl100 ones gd enough?😅

[regal ore]

just archerfish 168 522

522 allows 1 battle out of range without relocating subs

[open veldt]

yea... theyre ok r?

not sure what u mean😅

[regal ore]

nothing else is worth raising

[open veldt]

ah ok

[regal ore]

only archerfish is a top or neartop sub

[open veldt]

uh huh

there arent any places to get better ones tho...

[open veldt]

erm is there a guide to manual better too? thx

coz i almost never manual lol

[regal ore]

just dodge things

[open veldt]

lol okok

[regal ore]

and torp the kagerou prod rammers