w14-2 help

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need help for 14-2

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No sushi?

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nope , started recently

november ish i think

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Barely missed her

What’s in your mob fleet and boss fleet right now?

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i just saw that in chat , she was in august

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She was mid-September

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boss is avp.fdg,zep-mainz,eugen,agir

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Drop Zep for enty

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mob is york2,odin,uni-both roons and heinrich

my vanguard dies first

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On mob?

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can reach boss

boss murders me

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Murders your mob fleet?

Or your vanguard?

Also raise your subs

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the w14-2 boss murders my boss fleet's vanguard

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They’re really nice in 14

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are subs that important?

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Yes

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no

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didnt really invest in them

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They help

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ill probably do it after i level venetto

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not required for any content

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kinda figured that

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Is Mainz main tanking?

[woven talon]

thats why i keep them for a long while at lvl 60

agir

mainz is full fate and stuff

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post your fleets

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first off faction fleets suck ass

eugen is literally a dead slot in that fleet

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i know

idk what to use

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Slap York 2 or unicorn as flag

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was about to do that for the next try

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prob run helena on boss for just this fight

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Odins skill makes her sit in front of flag

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i have helena meta

lvld

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Helena

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normal helena

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still working on the normal helena

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Helmeta is different

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well shes the best buffer in the game

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Is non-retro poi good?

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youll be dropping her immediately after 14-2 tho

try fdg, yt2, enty

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for boss?

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ye

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what about the frontline?

thats the one with issues

and with what should i replace eugen with

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Agir, Helena, Heinrich?

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only have helena meta , agir is already there

heinrich second fleet for mobs

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drop eugen for helmet

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helmet?

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Isn’t helmeta only good VS light?

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helenam

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oke

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debuff should be fine, hes lacking anything better

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isnt sandiego any better?

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not really

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Sandy won’t give much tbh

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oke

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She’s more AA carry

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kubyshev?

i have that one lvld too

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you could but it wont make much of a difference

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got it

do i put zep insted of yt2 for the second fleet since that was in the second fleet

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Do you have Aquila?

[woven talon]

i do but not leveled

i do have too many cvs

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Aquila or indep Kai would sit where YT 2 is

Aquila provides focused healing while indep Kai can buff CVS and deal damage

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youll prob be hard stuck in 14-3 due to lack of dd and backline options

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does 14-3 require dds?

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Basically

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fuck

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Suicides boats and sub hell

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i only have 3

that really sounds like hell

dont light cruisers help?

since they have asw

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Eh

I used a few, didn’t help

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what dds are recomanded?

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DDGs, poi Kai or any of the top tier DDs

Idk about kitakaze

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i have yudachi but not retro

i am still waiting for her item to pop in the shoop

yudachi , janus , z23 and 46, hunter meta

thats what i have lvld

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Note: basically all the elite metas suck

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it was my first meta ship when i started

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I guess you could aim to get kitakaze

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and had nothing else

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Or retrofit Chang chun

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do you have ham2?

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i heard NJ comming back , was saving rolls for that

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Do you have an Shan?

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i do have ham2

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work on her

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i dont have the chinese dds

shigure

javelin

laffey

ham 2

z24-25-z35

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yeah...

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and fortune but you said it sucks

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do you have Independence?

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hamm2 is prob by far your best option to work on

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i do not

ill start working on ham2 after i finish with helena

is there a way to get more rainbow bulins ?

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not really

Cruise Pass, one a month from the core shop, UR events

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its just pass milestone and shop

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that's it

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already got that

needed 1 more to max break implac

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but yeah

you're lacking a lot of stuff for W14

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i can tell

didnt think it was this hard

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youre not even at the hard part

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https://tenor.com/view/adult-swim-this-is-fine-casual-flames-life-gif-5794951

at least i got here somehow

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I mean you can get there potentiall with what you have

just how many resets you want to do

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do i have any usage for this?

used on agir

but got a washing machine

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no

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no

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oke

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what's your entire dock?

95 ships is a bit sus

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not much

sus like too few?

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yeah

you've not purchased any additional dock spaces

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i did not

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like why

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spent it on rings

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basically

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of course

congrats you've just cucked your account as a FTP

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i am not f2p

spent a few bucks on the game

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well then get more dockspace lamo, I don't know how you survive

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i will , just didnt feel the need for more dock space since i didnt roll much

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okay good you have Aquila at least

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i said i do , just not lvld

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tbh aquila would be more useful then indep kai in 14-2+

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yeah start leveling her

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i guess ill do that

i only have 1 gold bulin but ill place her in the dorm for xp

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can you get Hood

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aquila, uni kai, marco polo (odin for now) will be your mobbing main

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how do i get hood specifically

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Medal shop

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medal shop

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shes not there

i only get trash

zui , belfast , sirisu

never had a bb in the medal shop

unless you mean to roll for the shop coins

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no

so I'm thing like

Mob: Odin, Unicorn Retro, Aquila, Henrich, Z46, San Diego

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i just got told that sandi isnt that good for this

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you have impa

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that prob gets destroyed

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Boss: FDG, Enterprise, Yortkown 2, Agir, Mainz, Roon Muse

it probably does

but like not a lot of options

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why not avp?

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would impa be better then yt2?

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Sandy isn't my first choice, but she's far from bad

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for the mob fleet insted of aquila

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she's basically a giant DD

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she dies like a dd too

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AVP is kinda useless in mob, her skills suit bossing more

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hm

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that's what Uni and Aquila are there for

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but i can reach the boss , so second fleet is not the issue

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oh it will become an issue

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i know

but for now it wasnt a issue

14-3 seems hell

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what are your equips actually

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thats a lot of print screens

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just show me the boss fleet

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k

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since that's what your having issues with

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okay

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i had VA armor insted of washingmachine on agir last time i tried

and replaced eugen with helena

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for a start why FUMOs

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whats a fumo?

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also those Divebombers are worse than Hell Divers

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gear is very bad as well

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i am nob

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FP boosting Aux you have on Agir and Mainz

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oh the radar

for firepower

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not what you need in W14 lamo

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i think the tierlist had that recomanded

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did you read the description for them

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not for all

mostly on the guns

i recently got to 14-2 so just keep the same builds

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"good choice if SURVIVABILITY not not a concern "

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Agir wants beaver badge + washing machine

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i dont have the badge , didnt bother to lvl up low tier ships since i am new

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Or if you need HP, VH plate since you already have it

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thats what i used before

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just use Toolboxes on them for now

also swap those Dive bombers for Purple Helldivers

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the destroyers?

thought they are good

1600 pound bombs

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they're not

they're worse than the Purple Helldivers

it's the 3rd best DB in the game in fact

only really beaten by the Tenrai and Skyraider

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this game is weird honestly

never played a game before where gold gear is worse than purple

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Also you will need to level those 155mm for 155kai in gearlab

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also you say new player

and yet you have FDG, Mainz, Odin, AvP, all at Dev 30 at least

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new player

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No haku or anchorage

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i am playing since the manchester RN event

the end of that event actually

not sure exactly when it was

i started anchorage , just not many US ships to get xp

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October

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end of that event , start of the german event

i remember getting albion and asking someone if thats rare

and they said its common to get gold ships

my excitment went to zero

cause it was 2 pulls 1 gold ship

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my advice, unless you want to tear your hair out with resets

abandon W14 for now

you need to level up some new ships at the very least and get some more developed

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ill try it one more time with some tweaks

oh yeah i heard manual is better

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if you can do it well

it is, but if your shit you're actually worse than the AI

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i am

i cant multistask to save my life in this game

i guess ill just try it once more and lvl up shit after

aquila , helena and get indep

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if you do Aquila, Independence isn't necessary for W14

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you dont need helena

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but she is useful for other content so get her anyway

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oke

will just save points and get inde if i need her

also one more thing , do they do re-runs of rainbow ships?

cause i want musashi.shinano and nj

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all non collab events are rerun

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seems like they are super meta

even in pvp i mostly see that combo

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they are

you'll be waiting year for Nano archive roughly

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is hutton any good?

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Musashi a year and a half roughly

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NJ is close , i see people talking about it

at least i have time to save

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Hutten sees the least use of the UR BBs

but she's good yes

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better than fdg?

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ehh

they both have their uses

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so no reason to roll on it if i have fdg?

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FDG I find better for mobbing, UvH better on bossing

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ah

oke

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well you only have one UR BB

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i do

fdg

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not exactly enough to make a fleet

you shoudl pretty much always roll for the URs

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i did for the last 2

and got both yt2 and implac

yt2 was pitty

game hates me

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no it's called RNG

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well , yes

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anyway pittying shouldn't be an issue

esepcially if you don't pull much

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cubes arent the issues

coins are

since everything requires coins

i am broke almost always

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that's why you farm oil capped maps on repeat

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i do that always

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it's 99% of AL endgame

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i do 12-4 constantly

farming simulator

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are you rerolling cats or something

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i do not

i just spend coins on upgrading ships and equipment

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that's pretty normal

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oh and did the PR ships

i just finished mainz yesterday

thats a coin sink if i ever seen one

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just 8k a day

that's 4 runs of 12-4

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isnt like 4k per run?

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if you use High efficiency combat logistic plans yes

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oh yeah with that

i always use it when i have some

think you get 10 per week + whatever siern op gives you for completing areas

well thank you all for the help

i guess i am back to farming and ignoring w14 for now