Fleet support i think

[torn plank]

Send them on thread plz

[ashen tinsel]

K

[torn plank]

gear review r?

[copper girder]

what do you need help with?

[ashen tinsel]

Yeah I only started looking at guides like last month

[copper girder]

okay

this is more or less all shit

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/

use this as a gear guide

[torn plank]

Damn i hate discord why put the images like that

[copper girder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wWMIzaUKISAXMbOEnmsuuLkO9PesabpdTUWdosvHygM/edit#gid=1616477600

[vale bobcat]

Sandy gear is substandard

[copper girder]

I also reccomend reading this as well

[torn plank]

your auxiliaries are all over the place

[fading dew]

i have never seen anybody use a fuel filter

[torn plank]

You dont got any toolbox?

[vale bobcat]

We could actually look into individual ship, bc frankly their setup is really substandard

[ashen tinsel]

I honestly just threw things on as I got them

[vale bobcat]

How did you manage this far with doing that?

[copper girder]

over leveling

[fading dew]

most of yr auxes can be fixed with toolboxes like what vulkar said

[ashen tinsel]

Idk i cleared ch 12

[copper girder]

like I said just follow the ECTL recommendations for each ship

[vale bobcat]

Can I rip the gear setup? I am not as harsh as Torva, not yet anyway

[copper girder]

I mean where do you start lol

[vale bobcat]

By the order then

[torn plank]

Also the ECTL, top gears doesnt mean its BiS, read the description of the gears by hover the mouse over it, you will read for what its used

[vale bobcat]

Holy mother Jesus, where do I even start?

[fading dew]

the guns

[ashen tinsel]

Still don’t have access to the upgraded ones so I threw on whatever I had from boxes

[fading dew]

for starters use dd guns over cl guns on cls cuz dd gun more dmg

twin 100mm from ib box is a good start

[torn plank]

twin 150?

[vale bobcat]

I am amaze you reach this far

[fading dew]

i have no idea whats a twin 150

[vale bobcat]

The purple gun?

[fading dew]

tbsk?

twin 100 still btr

[vale bobcat]

Faster firing but ammo bad

[ashen tinsel]

And stick blue 76 on Ayanami?

[vale bobcat]

Yes

[ashen tinsel]

Should I just hold onto the gear I remove?

[vale bobcat]

Sandy use the twin 100 that Soup adviced

[fading dew]

all dd guns with normal ammo same mods wdym

[torn plank]

wheres the full name of it , cant find it

[fading dew]

its from ib boxes i forgot full name

[vale bobcat]

twin 100mm AA gun or something

[fading dew]

eh wait might be sakura

[lapis laurel]

the german fighter plane and the type gold type 52 is safe to scrap

[vale bobcat]

It from IJN box

[torn plank]

ok, done, was searching every twin 100 but no IBs

[lapis laurel]

These two are safe to scrap

[vale bobcat]

Musashi using 460 gun with HPFCR, are you planning to oneshot meta boss fight?

[ashen tinsel]

If I could

[vale bobcat]

You can't, not with the rest of the setup

[fading dew]

if u have a haku and fully +13 gear ye u could one shot

[vale bobcat]

Just remove everything and ask what best on individual ship

[fading dew]

just put toolbox and rudder on every vanguard that isnt a dd

yr cv auxes are fine for now

[vale bobcat]

Not fine

[fading dew]

for torps u pretty much only want quad magnetics from ib box

[fading dew]

theyre at least good poverty options

[vale bobcat]

CV aren't fine, he is using suisei on everyone and Enty is using BTD

[fading dew]

better than a rudder on cv

i said auxes

[copper girder]

still at it lol

[fading dew]

and for cv dive bombers u only want helldivers theyre purple

[vale bobcat]

I rather have +10 fuel tank than +10 purple cata

[copper girder]

there's basically no difference lamo

[fading dew]

fighters u can use seafang, hellcat or purple corsair

torpedo bombers are basically just barracuda all the way until u get wyvern (for campaign at least)

[vale bobcat]

Portland have the duck gun

[fading dew]

purple cata is better than a fuel filter that gives hp instead of avi

[lapis laurel]

they're talking about the aviation fuel tank I think

[vale bobcat]

Fuel tank, not filter, big dif

[fading dew]

mb i said filter by accident, but it still gives hp instead of avi

[copper girder]

oh shit

[fading dew]

or am i misremembering

[vale bobcat]

It has the same AVI as purple cata

[copper girder]

they're trying to faction gearing

[vale bobcat]

Not really, Takao is using Eugen gun

[fading dew]

sandy is using 155

[copper girder]

look at Enty, Nano, and Akagi

[vale bobcat]

More like throw everything on and don't know which is best

[vale bobcat]

That I concur

[fading dew]

oh god yr right

[vale bobcat]

This is the situation where it is curse not for bad gears but bc how chaotic and idiosyncrasy it is

Wait, Takao is using twin 37mm AA gun

[copper girder]

that's what get's you lol

[fading dew]

imma go order a crucifix off amazon brb

[vale bobcat]

I hate that AA gun

[vale bobcat]

Order another one for me as well

[fading dew]

ngl i feel like doing a hood roleplay now

[vale bobcat]

Hood roleplay isn't that bad

[copper girder]

either way, I'm not gearing 14 ships

[fading dew]

twin 380 tho

[lapis laurel]

Lusty and Akagi both have gold +10 Messershit and Zero

[vale bobcat]

Still a fast firing gun for mobbing, just obsolete

[ashen tinsel]

So can I just throw the leftovers on Tier N?

[fading dew]

should i +13 a confetti gun

[vale bobcat]

I am dreaded to ask this but show us your gears depot

[ashen tinsel]

Yab

Alright

[torn plank]

put show equipped gear

[copper girder]

you guys seriously want to gear 14 ships?

[fading dew]

this is what gph is for

[torn plank]

WE MEN

[vale bobcat]

I welcome the challenge

[torn plank]

what was gph xd

[vale bobcat]

We're men

[copper girder]

okay first things first though

what even are the fleets and what are they for

[torn plank]

~~without GF ~~

[lapis laurel]

they just said they cleared w12 so I'm guessing w13

[fading dew]

ppl roasting nubs that ask here and ppl who start arguements randomly

[vale bobcat]

I don't know why but I suddenly want to play that song, "I will make a man out of you"

[ashen tinsel]

Ok time for pain

[copper girder]

bruh

[lapis laurel]

4 +10 BTD Destroyers

wait

[copper girder]

I see that many hydraulic rudders and I know you've done at least soem resaerch projects

[vale bobcat]

You have gold cata and you use purple one

[fading dew]

i am hyperventilating rn

[copper girder]

okay I'm not gonna randomly gear 14 ships

[copper girder]

what are your fleets and what do you need them for

don't say general, there's no such thing in AL

[torn plank]

he spent plates for purple having good gold on depot

[fading dew]

its ok u just need bleach and a crucifix no biggie

[lapis laurel]

7 +10 Bismarck guns

[ashen tinsel]

Idk

[lapis laurel]

Yeah I can see he did research at least since he has 1 PR5 DD gun

[copper girder]

you don't know what your fleets are?

[vale bobcat]

3 +10 Nelson gun

[lapis laurel]

also 2 confetti guns

[lapis laurel]

Do you want to clear chapter 13 or?

[copper girder]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II okay first things first

[lapis laurel]

Since you said you cleared chapter 12 already

[ashen tinsel]

Yeah so 2 story and then idk

[copper girder]

follow that guide and scrap all the crap

[copper girder]

okay, can you post your dock then

[lapis laurel]

post your dock as well

[vale bobcat]

435 slot in depot

[copper girder]

I said your dock....

[torn plank]

i feel hes trolling

[ashen tinsel]

Oh dock

No I’m just multitasking

[copper girder]

this is even more cursed

[lapis laurel]

This is

[vale bobcat]

I think he genuinely not knowing how to play and just overlevling to 12

[copper girder]

you only now came to that conclusion

[vale bobcat]

Bc I still have hope in humanity

[fading dew]

no troller will +10 this many 🚮 guns

[vale bobcat]

You underestimate trolling

[ashen tinsel]

I mean I’m here right?

[torn plank]

dock?

[fading dew]

better late than never

[copper girder]

yeah, still doesn't make it any less amusing though

[vale bobcat]

Post dock, sort by rarity and post vang and main separately

[lapis laurel]

Ok this dude has been playing for long because I see a Black Heart equipping a gold normal quint

[vale bobcat]

Returnee then, I see plenty of oldbie that absolutely clueless with the current gameplay

[copper girder]

first year of EN

so 2018

[lapis laurel]

idt that's Returnee, seeing as they have Musashi

and other ships in between

[ashen tinsel]

Returnee

[vale bobcat]

Maybe get her right when event? I don't see Vang or Kron

[ashen tinsel]

I stopped then started again last year

[lapis laurel]

Ah ok makes more sense

[copper girder]

okay didn't need the rares or commons but that's fine

so for W13 \

[ashen tinsel]

Oh ok

[copper girder]

oh wait

need the main fleet ships as well

[vale bobcat]

Well, most of the important ones are here

[fading dew]

u have a lot of good ships just bad gear

[vale bobcat]

Which PR are you focus on rn, yuki?

[copper girder]

Mob: Illustrious, Joffree, Unicorn Retro, Portland, Laffey, Belfast

[fading dew]

pr4 i hope since they dont have a tanky tank besides eugen

[copper girder]

Boss: Musashi, Shinano, Enterprise, Eugen, Helena, San Diego

not optimal but I was using what you had leveled for expedience

[vale bobcat]

Agir seem to be at least dev20

[fading dew]

those fleets look fine tbh

[copper girder]

as for W14

okay big question

how close are to unlocking/ finishing FDG?

[fading dew]

agir at dev20 might be squishier than eugen ngl

eugen might be called useless but she tanky as heck

[lapis laurel]

Agir already gets all her tankiness at 25 so dev20 is definitely better than Eugen

[fading dew]

but then again thats all she has to offer

[vale bobcat]

125 and Oath Eugen is tanky but Agir still have more utility and dmg

[lapis laurel]

the question also is for Agir is does he have her gun ready to craft at least

or any other CB gun

[copper girder]

W14 Mob: Patricia, Unicorn Retro, Aquila, Kala, Kitakaze, San Diego

[ashen tinsel]

FDG?

[lapis laurel]

Oh wait he does have Azuma's gun.

[torn plank]

Question between portland and Eugen who is best?

[copper girder]

W14 Boss: Musashi, Shinano, Yorktown 2, Agir, Jean d' Arc, Anchorage

[copper girder]

Freidrich Der Grosse from PR2

[lapis laurel]

FdG

[vale bobcat]

Friedrich Der Grosse

[ashen tinsel]

Oh not yet

[fading dew]

since theyre already raised id say eugen

[ashen tinsel]

Almost done with Rupprecht

Then was going to circle back

[vale bobcat]

Why is she not FS5?

[torn plank]

So Agir dev <20 is worst than Eugen

[fading dew]

ruppy 🚮

[ashen tinsel]

F

[vale bobcat]

You focus PR5?

[fading dew]

possibly, in tanking at least

[copper girder]

Ruprecht is like the last PR shi you should do

[lapis laurel]

Got her to Dev30 just last week and I'm all out of coins

[copper girder]

stop working on her and do FDG, she takes priority over PR ships RN

[ashen tinsel]

Yeah that’s on me was going by number of blueprints

[lapis laurel]

you can coin FDG now

[copper girder]

All PR1, PR2, and PR3 ships except Drake

[lapis laurel]

7,200 coins for 10BPs a day or 22,200 for 15 BPs

[copper girder]

that's why FDG takes priority

[vale bobcat]

Farm 12-4 for coin, 13-4 is better but way harder, require specific strategy and AA carrier

[ashen tinsel]

K

[vale bobcat]

Also, need to gear up as well, your current gear have no hope for w13

[copper girder]

like I said

use the fleets I gave and copy the ECTL for gear reccomendations

[lapis laurel]

BTW for the ECTL gear recommendations, just because a gear is higher on the list doesn't mean it is better

Always check for the use case

[torn plank]

yes

BiS = Best is Slot

[ashen tinsel]

Ok I will see what I can do and put the remainder on Tier N

[vale bobcat]

Have you do opsi?

[copper girder]

don't

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

follow this and scrap what's on there

[ashen tinsel]

Yeah doing first real run of opsi

[copper girder]

no need to clog up the gear depot with gear you're never gonna use

[vale bobcat]

Doing opsi allow you craft good gear in lab

Wyvern should be priority #1

But if you need convergence torp plane then either make ryuusei or make Junker d4

Don't bother with making BB gun, only gun you might want is 457 and it is a few month away of doing opsi for you

[lapis laurel]

they already have 4 Ryusei's

[vale bobcat]

Oh, nvm then

[ashen tinsel]

Then generally speaking Sakura has best torps for DDs?

[copper girder]

not really

the best torps for auto are german

[lapis laurel]

for manual play it's japanese and that one british gear lab torp

[copper girder]

and the best manual torps are th British ones from the gear lab

[ashen tinsel]

K

Is there an ideal lower cost 12-4 farm fleet?

[copper girder]

uh no

[lapis laurel]

/oilcap

[copper girder]

oil caps have made low cost farming irrelevant

just use full fleets

[lapis laurel]

wait lol it doesn't work in threads

[copper girder]

yep

[lapis laurel]

but yeah oilcaps made low cost irrelevant

For more info on oil caps

[ashen tinsel]

I see

That simplifies things

Well thanks for the help

[ashen tinsel]

Why are most of the AA guns garbage?

[steep lance]

cause they don't have enough raw damage per shot

or slow reload

[ashen tinsel]

Since I posted my ships here already does anyone have tips for building a QE Meta fleet?

[fading dew]

use one meta ship in backline and vanguard is just full support

or u can just ignore the meta mechanic and kill it in 2-3 attempts

cuz i dont see any raised meta ships

yr backline could be sth like sushi shinano enty/hiryuu meta and vanguard can be like eugen helena sirius (if agir dev25 use her over eugen)

uh u gna have to run full db on shinano tho cuz torps are prob not gna hit qem cuz of dumb knights

[vale bobcat]

Percy in boss fleet

Something is very wrong here

[ashen tinsel]

So I replace her with Enty?

[vale bobcat]

You fighting QEM?

[ashen tinsel]

Yeah

[vale bobcat]

Ok, Enty and Shinano gear?

[ashen tinsel]

Should I use HVARs?

[vale bobcat]

BTD is just trash, the VT squadron aren't suited for boss fight

Shinano dive bomber also bad, suisei not that great

Use purple helldiver, it is the 3rd best DB in game behind Tenrai and Golddiver

[vale bobcat]

No, QEM is heavy armor and HVAR only good when dealing with light and med, it is useless against heavy

Your dmg also low bc QEM knight tanking most of the strike from Enty and Shinano

[ashen tinsel]

Why is btd bad?

[vale bobcat]

The bomb on it have terrible drop radius, you're better off with the Helldiver loadout than BTD 2x1600lb bomb

[ashen tinsel]

Huh. So it’s not just bigger bombs better here

[vale bobcat]

Not really, Tenrai have 3x1600lb bomb with the same spread but with higher dmg and better armor mod, BTD are just bad and newbie trap

Suisei only use is for timing on Ark Royal and CV like her

[ashen tinsel]

Definitely doing better in my lvl10 fight vs supporting others

[steep lance]

always do highest level possible

cause losing to highest level one gives you more points than beating low level one

if you do your own fights always do as many attempts as needed to kill

[ashen tinsel]

630000 is about the limit. My torps keep missing

[ashen tinsel]

Would swapping Javelin for say Ayanami be a good idea?

[steep lance]

yes

[fading dew]

double db on shinano might be a good idea considering yr not gna kill the knights