#Returning Player - Fleet Help
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@waxen hollow ur time to shine
raise a juneau for w12
since u have sushi u can probably 1 fleet all the way to w13 but that needs manual
Also, when should I start touching OpSi?
for now i think sushi, unicorn, indep (from core shop), portland, chang chun and london works
when u think u got enough dmg for it
Just 1 fleet?
ye 1 fleet is enough until w11
cuz sushi is stronk
anyways u shldnt be struggling at all are u using the right gear
like twin 410 on sushi, etc
then all u need is a juneau to replace london
I try to follow gear recco on tier list
Yeap
unicorn > independence > portland > whoever else u need
I was thinking Sandy or Warspite but they expensive as hell
warspite is a last resort bb option
sandy is overkill for anything that isnt w13
in aa
her dmg without considering aa is pretty average but definitely more worth than warspite
??
Just that sandy's dmg is pretty good
Oh right, research and PR. I forgot what to do with it. I remember there being a page on wiki about it but I can't find it. Anyone know the link?
focus pr4
if you want to go with 2 fleet setup
musashi enty pow, portland helena chang chun
kaga BB (replace with monarch when dev 30 and leveled) indomitable unicorn, phoenix laffey + whatever you like to raise, you will probably get better ships later
he can use hood instead of kaga BB tho
hood is lv 39
Whats the advantage of 1 Fleet? Just less oil and more focused resources?
can always train her
then use monarch directly
less advantage, more like in earlier worlds you don't need 2 fleets
ehh i'd rather use hood for mobbing tbh
with her augment she p good again
no, even with aug, hood isn't as good as monarch in mobbing
and it has always been hood for boss and monarch for mob for beginners, but he got mushashi so hood is benched
monarch has an ap barrage wdym 
in early stages, high threat enemies are most med/heavy armor, monarch AP barrage has the advantage
hood augment doubles her barrage dmg on light and increased proc rate to 100%
which terms
Like which ships better in which situations
remember who shot your flag ship to death in ch 10 and 11? bunch of BBs and BCs who are med and heavy
light armor enemies are the least concern as they only damage vanguards, who has no survivability issue
well one fleet is another story
mobs are mostly light and med therefore hood > monarch
i highly doubt a slow would be useful in mobbing
who told you that? you can probably block him
https://al-data.github.io/nodes
who cares about slow? it's the AP barrage
About that, I don't have enough cores kekw
general consensus of the people here for the past 7 months ive been lurking here 
ukw imma ask ill brb
if you will use the one fleet plan you can just use enty
enty skill is +100% damage which is much better in 0 ammo situations than indep
yea I'll do just that
that works too
Do I try to go for 3 stars as I clear or do I just come back later on?
doesn't really matter, just do a normal clear first and do full clear next run if your fleet was doing good in the first run, come back later if otherwise
doesn't this confirm mobs are mostly light and med?
wut? how?
you should avoid recon nodes before ch 12 as they don't drop general plates, and bb nodes are filled with high threat BB/BC which are med and heavy, especially in ch 10 and 11
There's like 0-1 Heavy ships in a BB node acc to that site
and we already got someone who said hood > monarch
I mean you do choose if you're clearing
no auto when pushing contents
ok tbf i auto everything
it's actually mainly about the "if hood can one shot the heavy armor enemy when not having level advantage", using monarch will raise the bottom performance a bit as the AP barrage does better than the common shell barrage.
the goal is the raise the bottom performance here, where monarch also has better survivability
also hood fleet tech is shit, monarch is... well, also not important
but generally hood still has more value tho no? since monarch is easily replaceable later on while hood would prob stay until fdg
not that i heard of...
to me monarch performance in ch 12 - 13 mob, which i tested myself are much better than hood, also in the med armor bosses. hood's issue there was the damage, her barrage is ok ish now with aug but the gun damage is a bit low
and in the CN tl for ch 14, (im CN btw) monarch is considered t0 general use and hood is t0.5 mob only
in the ops list, monarch is t0 and hood being t1.5
So like non developed Monarch is still better in the long run?
Cause tbh idk how long it'll take ti dev 30 her
low dev monarch will be much worse, even at dev 29. dev 30 is the minimum requirement, fs not so much
with prints coining, it takes only 34 days to max monarch if you buy 10 prints every day. i think you also get 40 prints from beginner mission, right? and there are some other sources iirc... with this and that it will probably take 20-25 days for you to get her from dev 0 to dev 30, without touching the catch up
alright then enlighten me on how cn tierlist works cuz i nvr figured it out cuz im an asian failure
i have a dev30 monarch thats fully built anyway and my hood is still queueing in line
oh yeah, the CN lists are very hard to use if you can't read Chinese...
more like my chinese is bad even if im compared to americans learning chinese 
cuz im looking at a copy rn and it says gascogne > richelieu and im like 
either im reading this wrong or ive been fed bad information for 7 months
oh yeah, gas>richy part is ch 14 mob only, in the list below for ops it's richy>gas
i know the CN tl maker so if you want to know more, just let me know
i also fail to comprehend how warkai is on par w howe cuz from my experience poikai always does more dmg
and amagi is pretty potato too
i also didnt know charles did sth
Howe is fantastic for just a SR BB. Even without her buff gained by using 3+ HMS ships or Monarch, I find her to consistently beat WarKai against all boss armour types. Her barrage is also much more consistent, and also works in mobbing if you use her there
cn tl says howe and warkai on t1
That makes sense
also albion > chkalov is kinda weird
i nvr used them so i cant say much but i was under the impression that chkalov > albion
dps wise, 3 hms howe > warkai > no buff howe, the gap is not very big, and they have similar pattern: 15s timed single target barrage and main gun with no barrrage (howe's barrage is totally random, warkai barrage farthest)
their actual performance in ch 14 bosses are on the same tier, as off flag bb for boss. howe has a minor buff but not good enough to make her 1 tier higher in ch 14
amagi being potato since her damage isn't good enough, but the defensive buff is good as always. i used her in 14-4 myself, not bad but not top tier was my impression at current standard
albion being half tier higher than chka is probably cuz
1, the defensive skill helps in ch 14, both the +hidden gague and -burn damage, not much but fit ch 14 well
2, asw skill helps in mob
3, flexible loadout, she can do 4 fighters + 4 dbs/4tbs
4, her damage is same level as chka
well i have not used albion either, only leveled her to 120 and never touched her lol
wait albion had a semi flex slot?
yeah, the 3rd slot is db or tb with 4 planes
holy shit okay