#Returning Player - Fleet Help

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cunning plume
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Heyo. Dipped into AL a few months ago around Musashi event but dropped it for a bit. Just gonna ask for some advice on fleetbuilding and resource management. Below is my dock showing my gold rarity ships

waxen hollow
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Show all ships excluding commons.

cunning plume
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gimme a sec its getting compressed

thin shell
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The pic is damn blurry or it's just my eyes is very incapable of seeing

cunning plume
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its blurry, fixing it rn

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still getting used to this Flow thingy on GX sorry

waxen hollow
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Show all ships excluding commons.

cunning plume
thin shell
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@waxen hollow ur time to shine

errant estuary
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What are you building fleets for

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Can't make a fleet without purpose

cunning plume
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Progress rn

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World 8 rn and pushing iirc

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But also maybe prep for W12 onwards?

stark slate
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raise a juneau for w12

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since u have sushi u can probably 1 fleet all the way to w13 but that needs manual

cunning plume
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Also, when should I start touching OpSi?

stark slate
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for now i think sushi, unicorn, indep (from core shop), portland, chang chun and london works

stark slate
stark slate
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ye 1 fleet is enough until w11

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cuz sushi is stronk

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anyways u shldnt be struggling at all are u using the right gear

cunning plume
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Not really struggling cause I'm way overlevelled

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Just kinda future proofing

stark slate
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like twin 410 on sushi, etc

stark slate
cunning plume
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I try to follow gear recco on tier list

stark slate
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thats good

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did u read the desc? sometimes lower tiered gear is better

cunning plume
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Yeap

stark slate
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poggers have a good one then

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come back here when u need more help

cunning plume
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In terms of Retros, which ones should I work on?

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Since Uni and CC are done

stark slate
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unicorn > independence > portland > whoever else u need

cunning plume
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I was thinking Sandy or Warspite but they expensive as hell

stark slate
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warspite is a last resort bb option

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sandy is overkill for anything that isnt w13

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in aa

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her dmg without considering aa is pretty average but definitely more worth than warspite

fallen agate
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??

stark slate
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?

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i have a feeling i said sth inaccurate agn

fallen agate
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Just that sandy's dmg is pretty good

cunning plume
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Oh right, research and PR. I forgot what to do with it. I remember there being a page on wiki about it but I can't find it. Anyone know the link?

unreal coyote
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if you want to go with 2 fleet setup
musashi enty pow, portland helena chang chun
kaga BB (replace with monarch when dev 30 and leveled) indomitable unicorn, phoenix laffey + whatever you like to raise, you will probably get better ships later

magic flower
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he can use hood instead of kaga BB tho

unreal coyote
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hood is lv 39

cunning plume
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Whats the advantage of 1 Fleet? Just less oil and more focused resources?

magic flower
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can always train her

unreal coyote
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then use monarch directly

magic flower
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ehh i'd rather use hood for mobbing tbh

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with her augment she p good again

unreal coyote
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no, even with aug, hood isn't as good as monarch in mobbing

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and it has always been hood for boss and monarch for mob for beginners, but he got mushashi so hood is benched

stark slate
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monarch has an ap barrage wdym DunktsukiStare

unreal coyote
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in early stages, high threat enemies are most med/heavy armor, monarch AP barrage has the advantage

stark slate
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hood augment doubles her barrage dmg on light and increased proc rate to 100%

cunning plume
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I'm getting lost in these terms

stark slate
cunning plume
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Like which ships better in which situations

unreal coyote
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remember who shot your flag ship to death in ch 10 and 11? bunch of BBs and BCs who are med and heavy

stark slate
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no one shot my flagship to death cuz its sushi DunktsukiStare

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i one fleeted to w13

unreal coyote
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light armor enemies are the least concern as they only damage vanguards, who has no survivability issue

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well one fleet is another story

stark slate
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mobs are mostly light and med therefore hood > monarch

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i highly doubt a slow would be useful in mobbing

unreal coyote
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who cares about slow? it's the AP barrage

cunning plume
stark slate
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ukw imma ask ill brb

unreal coyote
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if you will use the one fleet plan you can just use enty

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enty skill is +100% damage which is much better in 0 ammo situations than indep

stark slate
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that works too

cunning plume
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Do I try to go for 3 stars as I clear or do I just come back later on?

unreal coyote
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doesn't really matter, just do a normal clear first and do full clear next run if your fleet was doing good in the first run, come back later if otherwise

faint portal
unreal coyote
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wut? how?

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you should avoid recon nodes before ch 12 as they don't drop general plates, and bb nodes are filled with high threat BB/BC which are med and heavy, especially in ch 10 and 11

stark slate
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ppl auto my dude

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they dont choose

faint portal
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There's like 0-1 Heavy ships in a BB node acc to that site

stark slate
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and we already got someone who said hood > monarch

faint portal
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I mean you do choose if you're clearing

unreal coyote
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no auto when pushing contents

stark slate
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ok tbf i auto everything

unreal coyote
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it's actually mainly about the "if hood can one shot the heavy armor enemy when not having level advantage", using monarch will raise the bottom performance a bit as the AP barrage does better than the common shell barrage.
the goal is the raise the bottom performance here, where monarch also has better survivability

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also hood fleet tech is shit, monarch is... well, also not important

stark slate
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but generally hood still has more value tho no? since monarch is easily replaceable later on while hood would prob stay until fdg

unreal coyote
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not that i heard of...
to me monarch performance in ch 12 - 13 mob, which i tested myself are much better than hood, also in the med armor bosses. hood's issue there was the damage, her barrage is ok ish now with aug but the gun damage is a bit low
and in the CN tl for ch 14, (im CN btw) monarch is considered t0 general use and hood is t0.5 mob only
in the ops list, monarch is t0 and hood being t1.5

cunning plume
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Cause tbh idk how long it'll take ti dev 30 her

unreal coyote
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low dev monarch will be much worse, even at dev 29. dev 30 is the minimum requirement, fs not so much
with prints coining, it takes only 34 days to max monarch if you buy 10 prints every day. i think you also get 40 prints from beginner mission, right? and there are some other sources iirc... with this and that it will probably take 20-25 days for you to get her from dev 0 to dev 30, without touching the catch up

stark slate
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alright then enlighten me on how cn tierlist works cuz i nvr figured it out cuz im an asian failure

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i have a dev30 monarch thats fully built anyway and my hood is still queueing in line

unreal coyote
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oh yeah, the CN lists are very hard to use if you can't read Chinese...

stark slate
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more like my chinese is bad even if im compared to americans learning chinese PortDoll

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cuz im looking at a copy rn and it says gascogne > richelieu and im like NimiCursed

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either im reading this wrong or ive been fed bad information for 7 months

unreal coyote
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oh yeah, gas>richy part is ch 14 mob only, in the list below for ops it's richy>gas

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i know the CN tl maker so if you want to know more, just let me know

stark slate
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i also fail to comprehend how warkai is on par w howe cuz from my experience poikai always does more dmg

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and amagi is pretty potato too

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i also didnt know charles did sth

waxen hollow
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Howe is fantastic for just a SR BB. Even without her buff gained by using 3+ HMS ships or Monarch, I find her to consistently beat WarKai against all boss armour types. Her barrage is also much more consistent, and also works in mobbing if you use her there

stark slate
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cn tl says howe and warkai on t1

waxen hollow
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That makes sense

stark slate
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also albion > chkalov is kinda weird

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i nvr used them so i cant say much but i was under the impression that chkalov > albion

unreal coyote
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dps wise, 3 hms howe > warkai > no buff howe, the gap is not very big, and they have similar pattern: 15s timed single target barrage and main gun with no barrrage (howe's barrage is totally random, warkai barrage farthest)
their actual performance in ch 14 bosses are on the same tier, as off flag bb for boss. howe has a minor buff but not good enough to make her 1 tier higher in ch 14

amagi being potato since her damage isn't good enough, but the defensive buff is good as always. i used her in 14-4 myself, not bad but not top tier was my impression at current standard

albion being half tier higher than chka is probably cuz
1, the defensive skill helps in ch 14, both the +hidden gague and -burn damage, not much but fit ch 14 well
2, asw skill helps in mob
3, flexible loadout, she can do 4 fighters + 4 dbs/4tbs
4, her damage is same level as chka
well i have not used albion either, only leveled her to 120 and never touched her lol

stark slate
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wait albion had a semi flex slot?

unreal coyote
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yeah, the 3rd slot is db or tb with 4 planes

stark slate
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holy shit okay