#Help in creating the ideal three OpSi boss fleets

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vital cargo
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Going to post pictures of my dock in a second. Seven pictures in total, I'm afraid anyone who is willing to chime in may have to scroll through quite a bit, but I thought I should have everything I have and will have built on the table

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Now, I think I also need to provide further information. I have a present OpSi setup, and an OpSi setup I eventually aim to have with my current ships.

What I currently have: Haku-Shinano-Ark Royal + Kron-Yuugure-Sirius; Musashi-Vanguard-UvH + Anchorage-Shimakaze-Helena; AvP-Bismarck-Peter Strasser + Agir-An Shan-Chang Chun

What I plan to have in the future at the moment: first fleet's the same; Musashi-Vanguard-FdG + Agir-Helena-Plymouth; Yorktown II-Enterprise-AvP + Anchorage-An Shan/Curlew (to be debated)-Baltimore

night mist
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whos mob fleet supposed to be?

viral ore
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didnt you say you had nj?

vital cargo
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Plymouth, York2, Baltimore are still being built, so I am keeping those on the bench for now, at least until I reach the point of full corrosion stats to start doing more serious content, at which point I will probably tag Plymouth in the second fleet to replace Shimakaze

viral ore
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that third fleet is a scrap

vital cargo
# viral ore didnt you say you had nj?

Sorry, I might not have expressed myself correctly. I did ask if she is better than Musashi or not, though I never said I have her. I asked more so in order to know, in the future, when I do get her, if I should expect her to replace Musashi

viral ore
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ah fair enough

night mist
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she doesnt really replace musashi

viral ore
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ye we already went through that

vital cargo
# night mist whos mob fleet supposed to be?

I don't have a mob fleet, per se, I made the subjective choice of delegating the fourth fleet slot to just ships that need leveling. I value the XP from OpSi as long as it costs nothing

viral ore
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then you probably dont want york/enty/avp fleet

vital cargo
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My information is that that is the best anti-light CV comp currently available in the game

viral ore
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true

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i mean, i guess if youre fine with your mob fleet being a lvling fleet then its alright

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ye, looks fine

vital cargo
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In any case, I did lay out what I currently have and what I currently plan to have, but I also welcome more thoughts on what actually would make the top three bossing fleets with my roster

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Trying to min max my serious content comps

viral ore
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not much to improve on boss fleets honestly, except nj and kazagumo

vital cargo
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For instance, one perspective I heard is that FdG should be replaced by NJ, whenever it is I do get her

vital cargo
viral ore
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you can consider cheshire instead of sirius

vital cargo
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Sirius is mostly there to boost the damage output of the backline

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Checked Cheshire's skills and I don't see anything along those lines. Granted, mine is dev 11 so maybe that explains it

viral ore
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if cheshire makes your carriers stay hidden for one more strike than with sirius then its a bigger boost

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thats the only case when chesh is better

vital cargo
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I guess that's just something I'd have to experiment with if anything

viral ore
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ye

vital cargo
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I'll keep that in mind. One more airstrike would indeed make Cheshire the winner between the two

viral ore
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thats why im saying to take it into consideration at some point

vital cargo
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But another point that makes me think is An Shan V.S. Curlew. Curlew, for reference, is an ARA ship. So the question is, which is better? An Shan's anti light DPS, or Curlew boosting the backline further?

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I have received input about this, and the answer, as I could process it, narrows down to "if your an shan has good gear then she takes it, otherwise curlew"

viral ore
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yeah thats kinda it

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altho if its supposed to be anti light fleet id use aurora

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over curlew

vital cargo
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Curlew's ARA boost does kind of see a case of diminishing returns for Enterprise, at least, who literally doubles her damage output

vital cargo
viral ore
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oke then ara is fine yeah

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ara just shifts damage distribution more towards york

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because enty doesnt benefit as much like you said

vital cargo
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And AvP, I guess. Though in this context she's just a support to stop enemies

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Maybe her damage will still be substantial though

viral ore
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she still does decent damage

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just not on par with york/enty

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similar to bb fleet, vanguards personal damage wont be nowhere near other bbs

vital cargo
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Yeah, usually like half of that

viral ore
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but both vang and avp contribute enough to make them best picks there

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decent damage + amazing utility

hot rapids
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is aurora worth using in antilight fleet for evasion debuff

viral ore
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very much yes

vital cargo
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Well then, to recap, based on the indications given, I guess the fleet I would ultimately aspire to (barring any future UR's we may get until then) is this: Haku-Shinano-Ark Royal + Kronshtadt-Kazagumo-Sirius; Musashi-FdG-Vanguard + Agir-Helena-Plymouth and York2-Enty-AvP + Anchorage-Curlew-Baltimore

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Then, one day down the line, when NJ gets her rerun, FdG gets swapped out for her

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That sound about ideal?

viral ore
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yeah

hot rapids
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then doesnt aurora > curlew in antilight fleet here?

viral ore
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he said he wants this fleet to be anti light/med

vital cargo
hot rapids
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ah okay

viral ore
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which is valis for cvs because you just swap planes

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but aurora becomes useless

hot rapids
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understandable

vital cargo
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In any case, I think with my current ultimate comp goal, I will have reached the peak. Will obviously fluctuate depending on future UR's and FS5's, but that is what it is I suppose

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Think I have a good idea of what to do. And I'll keep Cheshire in the back of my mind as well, just in case. Might tag her for like one OpSi daily reset and see how it goes. Thanks for the help

viral ore
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yeah thats enough to oneshot or close to oneshot provided the gear is good enough

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arbiters*

vital cargo
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And just to be clear; UvH, Brest, FdG, Shimakaze, Drake, Azuma and Yuudachi, none of them fit in an aforementioned BiS setup, right?

viral ore
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all of them are your mobbing options

vital cargo
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Yeah, I guess so. In the event that I did actually want a mobbing fleet for OpSi. And in such a case, there wouldn't be any SSR options that would be better, right?

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Because you still have stuff like Volga, Unicorn, Perseus, Indep etc.

viral ore
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unicorn and indep are the best mobbing backline choices

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then theres fdg or uvh which ill always chose uvh over fdg because she at least has a crossfleet buff

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and shoots faster

vital cargo
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And aside from that, when it comes to the fight that they are in, FdG and UvH perform similarly, I assume?

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In a mobbing scenario

viral ore
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ideally youd want no bb at all for faster clearing WarShrug

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but you can make uvh shoot just once per fight and be effective with it

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also its more consistent when onefleeting strongholds

vital cargo
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Think I've had everything in my mind answered. Thank you, it's been helpful for sure

viral ore
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opsi mobbing gives you a lot of leeway honestly

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the only must haves id see there would be uni+indep

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and then throw in whatever strongest youve got

vital cargo
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Yeah, I can see the benefit of clearing mob nodes extremely quickly

vital cargo
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To the point, I assume, of parts of airstrikes just getting wasted until the next wave spawns in

viral ore
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thats one thing and another is stronghold boss fights where her damage just drops substantially

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but if you prefer her over uni i guess she works too

vital cargo
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Wouldn't you use one of your bossing fleets for those?

viral ore
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nah

vital cargo
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Or are we factoring in the fact that boss battles in strongholds consist of more than just the boss and also actual mob waves

viral ore
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at some point your mob fleet is enough to just start stronghold, press auto and come back when its done

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honestly if the third slot in mob backline is good enough then percy probably works aswell

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i just never used percy since uni retro came out

vital cargo
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Works, perhaps assuredly so. To begin with, comparing Percy and UniKai is basically a situation of comparing two goliaths of mobbing