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warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:08 PM

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hi guys, i somehow had already cleared 12-4 hard and 3 star. but now, rng doesnt favor me today and i lossed 3 times today already. I use fleet 2 for the boss, what fleet comp should i use instead for more consistent (and meet the requirement)?? thx

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Change Formidable to enterprise

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What dies, main fleet or vanguard?

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:09 PM

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the vanguard

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Show their gear

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Because that's pretty much the best vanguard you can use already

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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well for starters try changing Eugen for Roon

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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That's trolling

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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not really

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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Roon has barely better damage than Eugen and is much less tanky

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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Eugen is shit and roon is lvl 124

meager cove Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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it depends if he has the augment or not

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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meager cove Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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eugen tanks more than roon if he has it

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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vale saffron Roon has barely better damage than Eugen and is much less tanky

now that's trolling

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:11 PM

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So it's gear issue

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:12 PM

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no steering gears on Helena and Sandy for a start

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Change Eugen to Portland

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:12 PM

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also what is that AA gun

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:12 PM

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100mm basically same as skc twin

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:13 PM

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no the one Eugen

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it's shit

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:13 PM

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octuple lol

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:13 PM

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ohh, i cant change to portland bc it says i dont meet torp 2400 requirement now

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:13 PM

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okay use Roon then

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:13 PM

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heinrich?

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i've been using level 110 heinich and adalbert ok 12-4 hard

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:14 PM

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ehh

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pretty sure it's still lethal for them

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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warm rampart ohh, i cant change to portland bc it says i dont meet torp 2400 requirement now

Change Saratoga or unicorn to Tirpitz and use Portland, not roon

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:17 PM

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it's post clear i think the boss fleet is the one that needs adjustment

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:17 PM

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it's post clear that Tirpitz gives trp stat

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And Portland should be better than roon kinda

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:18 PM

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honestly they're not gonna have issues shooting down planes with tha fleet

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so the difference in AA shouldn't be that noticable

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how long is it taking you beat or at least attempt to beat the boss?

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:19 PM

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it's about tankiness,. not AA

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:19 PM

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they're roughly the same in eHP

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:19 PM

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can we finagle a 2bb setup for their boss fleet and meet acv? i found that that most comfortable in 12-4 hard

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:20 PM

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I don't know why you insist that Portland is an upgrade over Roon

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:22 PM

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portland is slightly tankier against airplanes, equally tanky in general, and has better dps

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:22 PM

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Portland has better DPS than Roon.....

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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FAILED AGAIN in the end choukai only had 15, portland died 1st then helena and then sandy

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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yes

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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I don't know what Roon you're using then

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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warm rampart FAILED AGAIN in the end choukai only had 15, portland died 1st then helena and t...

have we fixed your gear yet

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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warm rampart FAILED AGAIN in the end choukai only had 15, portland died 1st then helena and t...

how long did the fight last?

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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pretty long, still time remain over 1 min

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:24 PM

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it took you nearly two minutes

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ok that's the issue then

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:24 PM

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yeah need damage, can do 2bb?

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:24 PM

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show what gear you're running for the backline

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:24 PM

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also for sandy gear i used high performance hydulic stear now

dull bear Feb 5, 2023, 6:24 PM

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also was that your entire dock?

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we can use some ships to pump acv and torp reqs to run 2bb

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:27 PM

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how healthy is your main fleet at the end?

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:27 PM

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also portland

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in the end cv full ish hp, bb 1/3 hp

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:28 PM

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warm rampart

that explains a lot

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get Monarch a better gun

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Purple Twin 410mm works

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:28 PM

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i don't see how monarch can be 1/3 hp with sandy in the fleet, but i guess we're keeping monarch essex enty

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Get Essex a Hell Diver and both Enty and Essex Gold Barracudas

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Ryusseis are just gonna miss

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:29 PM

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choukai doesn't move, so once maya dies or if maya is far then ryuuseis hit

mortal fog Feb 5, 2023, 6:30 PM

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oh yeah forgot this was 12-4

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give Essex a Ruuysei as well then

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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also remove SG radar from helena...maybe? idk how slow your carriers are

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if you have a beacon for enty then they can sync helena

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:32 PM

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sending gleet now

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boss appear 2:32

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vanguard by that time 2/3 hp

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win

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S tier

vale saffron Feb 5, 2023, 6:34 PM

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do you have beaver and/or manjuu for the vanguard?

warm rampart Feb 5, 2023, 6:34 PM

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sandy and portland almost died

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helena 1/2 hp

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oh yeah i do have those

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let me put it t=up

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