Rei W14

[winged yarrow]

there's been a pretty big spike of w14 goers here

@rapid cairn come come

[fast marsh]

to continue on the discussion, perseus is fucking terrible for damage

[gloomy kestrel]

yeah and Unicorn Retro exists providing better DPS and better vangaurd healing

[rapid cairn]

Look, its what I did for w14

[winged yarrow]

13?

cos 13 and 14 are much different

[fast marsh]

w13 is very, VERY different

like in overall difficulty you can say w13 is elementary school level as soon as you know how to do aa and acv

w14 is just hard unless you got some stacked setups

[winged yarrow]

and it still isnt trivial with stacked ships

[fossil temple]

DDs are recommended

[gloomy kestrel]

yeah RNG can still fuck up even the best fleets when clearing

[fast marsh]

hey its close enough to trivial with pr5 cn setup

yk, finally consistent autosearch

[rapid cairn]

So should I put a DD in the place of sandy?

[gloomy kestrel]

more like your fleets need to be reworked

[winged yarrow]

could you post your dock sorted by rarity from URs through SRs, filtered by main fleet then vanguard?

[fast marsh]

no like as in you should remove fucking everything and rebuild because w14 works different fundamentally

so first

mob fights are much valued for dmg consistency and dmg coverage

so you need to stagger your dmg for both mob fleet and boss fleet, because in w14 (the hard boss fights), the hard part isnt even the boss, its the mobs before the boss spawn

and because stagger is important, perseus is pretty bad for damage

because she blows her 2 preload in the beginning of the fight then proceed to do close to 0 dmg after

[fast marsh]

man you have volga and uni, it should be easy

[winged yarrow]

is there more?

[fast marsh]

ditch percy

[gloomy kestrel]

yeah feels like there should be more

[rapid cairn]

Leveled not 😦

[winged yarrow]

then level them

w14 takes best options

altho this is enough to just reset through

[rapid cairn]

okay

[fast marsh]

ye percy is just pretty useless to you, i think you can get 2 functional fleets for clearing

dont go lethal 3 star tho

lethal 3 star require cn whale pr5 setups or manual or insane amounts of resets

dont do that

[winged yarrow]

FdG Volga Unicorn Kronshtadt Kazagumo Yuudachi
Musashi Yorktown2 Enterprise Agir Heinrich Anchorage

[stiff viper]

why no uvh boss

[winged yarrow]

oh musashi

[fast marsh]

he can uvh ye

[winged yarrow]

sure go there

[stiff viper]

she does work without aquila

[rapid cairn]

Also, UVh arent better for stagger damage than two CVs on mob fleet?

[winged yarrow]

she dies in other fleets

but i forgot msuashi

so she is workable

[stiff viper]

volga can keep uvh alive aswell

[rapid cairn]

yeah you guys cant let my wifu benched lol

[stiff viper]

especially if musashi is there

[winged yarrow]

FdG Volga Unicorn Kronshtadt Kazagumo Yuudachi
Musashi UvH Yorktown2 Agir Heinrich Anchorage

[fast marsh]

no its bc she exposes herself very fast

[stiff viper]

its not about waifu, uvh is really good for bossing w14 but the issue is to keep her alive

[fast marsh]

and once any ship is exposed way ahead of others, w14 becomes literal hell incarnate

rng hell*

[winged yarrow]

musashi needs double defensive aux

[rapid cairn]

What would be?

[winged yarrow]

rudder FE? or more eva

idk, rudder fire extinguisher to start

[fast marsh]

because musashi shields the entire backline

so basically its equivalent to being 100% exposed at all times

so you run uh

rudder and fire extinguisher

[gloomy kestrel]

who wants to do gear then?

[fast marsh]

he also has vanny, wonder if she can fit

[winged yarrow]

luo

[fast marsh]

tho itll mean no cv

[winged yarrow]

I wouldnt rather fit vanny if he forcing uvh

[fast marsh]

true

[fast marsh]

ill do gear

[gloomy kestrel]

yeah and you need 3 CVs at least to remove ambushes

[floral warren]

haha

[rapid cairn]

So here the mob fleet

Should I equip anti torp aux on DDs?

[floral warren]

give a min for luo to show gear loadouts

cause you need to regear everything for w14

[fast marsh]

hm

i suggest you get 1 457

but if you dont wanna get a single one from gear lab

then itll still be fine ig

its just a bit harder time

[winged yarrow]

mmm, 457 fdg triple 410 musa 460 uvh

[rapid cairn]

I unfortunately cant now,. didnt have enough BPs yet. Yostar trolled us when they choose to not use the UR main gun BPs to 457 lol

[winged yarrow]

not enough ordnance reports?

[rapid cairn]

Nop

[fast marsh]

wait uh, his yt2 dont have 3 EU with uvh

so nanner be better right

[winged yarrow]

that's just 15%

[fast marsh]

k

[winged yarrow]

not like shinano procs either, nor is enty consistent

[rapid cairn]

I have 24 for now, I'm trying to stack enough for build the 457

[fast marsh]

ye ig

[floral warren]

york enty ancho is 3 EU

[winged yarrow]

shinano doesnt have three ijn

you didnt backread well enough

he wants uvh, so someone + someone

[floral warren]

ah

[fast marsh]

[floral warren]

this is true

all i do is copy luo

[fast marsh]

wait no i got the order wrong again

this

[rapid cairn]

XSB3C arent better than SB2C?

[fast marsh]

its just not that much better

[gloomy kestrel]

double fighter on Yorktown 2?

[fast marsh]

i want muh fast strikes

[gloomy kestrel]

fair enough

[winged yarrow]

eh

you dont vouch 460 uvh?

[fast marsh]

i just think mle can one shot already, 460 feel like its just slower

and will prolly overkill

[winged yarrow]

oh mle oneshots already

ok

on lethal?

[fast marsh]

hm

if it dont one shot then 460 might be better

[stiff viper]

isnt lethal only your damage taken

[fast marsh]

i feel like it will

[winged yarrow]

safe grants 20% dmg boost

for threat level 10 maps

[fast marsh]

fuck i hate all the gun options for non 457

second best is literally teh twin he gun

[stiff viper]

i was going off this

[fast marsh]

and i fucking hate that

[winged yarrow]

Wiki lists more than ingame

[stiff viper]

guess they just forgor to mention

[winged yarrow]

as usual

[winged yarrow]

dont have to force fast load

just staggering around 20 sec is good

[rapid cairn]

Hmm, i dont have this Maing guns from Henirich and Ancho, they are really neccessary?

[winged yarrow]

no, can swap for the AP guns

[fast marsh]

not really

just swap for the gear lab ap gun

[winged yarrow]

either yellow gold twin or roongun, etc

[fast marsh]

if you dont have wyvern, swap to barracuda

[winged yarrow]

ehh

[fast marsh]

and the gun on fdg is ideally 457

[winged yarrow]

why you forcing twin so hard

[fast marsh]

just triple ig, fuck

[winged yarrow]

thought you were going to MLE

[gloomy kestrel]

yeah AP seems to be the way to go

[fast marsh]

nah id rather not risk the ap targetting on the repair boats

[winged yarrow]

that's ok too

CVs have kazagumo to cope wipe

[floral warren]

why not sushi mob instead?

[winged yarrow]

i think his boss fleet is weak

[fast marsh]

cuz he want uvh

and sushi shield uvh

[floral warren]

ah

[gloomy kestrel]

she takes too much damage as well while on lethal

[floral warren]

me dum

[rapid cairn]

Can this fighter replace the tigercat? I just have three of it

[fast marsh]

its pretty far off from tigercat, ideally youd craft flapjack

if you can

go look for uh, gear lab and see if you can craft them

tho if you dont even have that then nah just use pirate squad

[gloomy kestrel]

probably not if he's saving for a 457

since you need reports for it

[fast marsh]

see this kids is why you do gear lab

it will bite you in the ass later if you dont do it early

[floral warren]

jack's faster?

[fast marsh]

flapjack is cheaper to craft

[winged yarrow]

ive done it for 6 months and still dont have enough gear lab

[gloomy kestrel]

or you could have farmed a shit ton from D2 of Vanguard's event

[winged yarrow]

ye, got two hornets from that

[gloomy kestrel]

I got like 4 from it, saw an oppurtunity to save on Gear Lab materials and went for it

[winged yarrow]

people then were like "nah just craft tigercats"

when it was clear i was new

whatever

[rapid cairn]

What is this purple thing on kazagumo?

[winged yarrow]

purple depth charge

[fast marsh]

depth charge

asw gear

[winged yarrow]

how many wyverns do you have

[rapid cairn]

Ok, let me see if I can build the flapjack

Just one

[winged yarrow]

ok

[floral warren]

would rather make 457 than flapjack no?

[rapid cairn]

I can build another Tigercat, i'll do it instead of Flapjack to keep the BPs for the 457

[floral warren]

nice

[rapid cairn]

I think we are set

Thanks bros, I'll try to clean it now ♥

[fast marsh]

just dont try to lethal 3 star with your setup and use subs on mob fights when you out of ammo

[fast marsh]

and also use subs on boss fights, and oh dont pick up the flares, only pick up the lighthouse

and avoid the enemies in the big fog in 14-4

[winged yarrow]

need to post the rest of your dock to sus out lethal three star

[fast marsh]

bro

[winged yarrow]

mostly just aquila tho

[fast marsh]

thatll take reset

or pr5 and aquila

for consistent clear

[rapid cairn]

Give me a minute

[fast marsh]

or you can be an animal and manual

[rapid cairn]

But dont have aquile, I wasnt playing yet when her launched 😦

[winged yarrow]

o ok

no bother

[fast marsh]

yeh and if you dont have pr5 ships

dont bother

you can get away with non aquila but yk, the less you have the harder it gets

until at some point it is uh gloucester time

[floral warren]

[fast marsh]

gloucester is used even in like setups with aquila

so like

its just not worth the effort

[winged yarrow]

ehh, luo really put down two tigercats on yorktown

wait wait

[winged yarrow]

put tenrai on york2

a very tiny change you could do

is jervis over kron and kron over heinrich

to shove out heinrich

but not seriously worth

wont solve lethal 3*

[stiff viper]

honestly i cleared with dd/cl mob vang but havent used it since

kron just fits perfectly

in mob

[winged yarrow]

w14 bosses are like mob nodes?

[stiff viper]

eh

[winged yarrow]

i dont thinkjervis is an upgrade

i think jervis lets kron boss over heiny

[stiff viper]

jervis used to be a bit rng for me

[gloomy kestrel]

what were you running?

[stiff viper]

did the job, but hp was all over the place

[winged yarrow]

did u run volga with jervis then

[stiff viper]

yes

[winged yarrow]

did she ever die

[stiff viper]

nah

its just it didnt feel safe at times

[winged yarrow]

hp is all over the place from bb chibi rams

[floral warren]

w14 sounds like a toxic environment

[stiff viper]

nah

[winged yarrow]

hm? it's skill issue

[stiff viper]

its cool once you get it to safe

[winged yarrow]

@rapid cairn have you tenrai

[rapid cairn]

YP i have one

[winged yarrow]

yk2 wears

[rapid cairn]

I'll swap it as soon I finish this run :p

[fast marsh]

he has tenrai?

[winged yarrow]

d30 agir without tenrai?

come now

[fast marsh]

hey it didnt happen to me

[winged yarrow]

consolidating gears into one picture

[fast marsh]

i got tenrai like 2 months after dev30 everyone

[winged yarrow]

i have 1.5 tenrai by d30 finish

[floral warren]

[rapid cairn]

Hehe it was easier than I expected

A good build do a bigger difference than I expected lol

[stiff viper]

is it 14-4 or in general starting w14

[rapid cairn]

14-2 for now

[stiff viper]

ah, okay

[gloomy kestrel]

wait till you get to 14-3 lol

that's when it really starts

[rapid cairn]

I managed to pass 14-1 easy but on 14-2 my musashi was being oblietered before the boss die lol

[winged yarrow]

ngl 14-3 mobs felt the same

but i got walled at 14-3 boss vanguard dmg

[gloomy kestrel]

I used Monarch until 14-3 at which point I stalled and waited for FDG to finish

[stiff viper]

say what you want, 14-3 was easier for me than 14-2

3* 14-3 was harder, sure

[rapid cairn]

So the Tenrai I should use in the place of Helldriver or Tigercat?

[stiff viper]

helldiver

[winged yarrow]

@rapid cairn i reposted

with tiny bit personal thought

[rapid cairn]

oh thanks, didnt saw it xD

[stiff viper]

its york2 ye? so you want it in highest plane number slots with highest efficiency

[rapid cairn]

So, can I finish the 14 map or you guys think that I'll got walled in 14-4?

[winged yarrow]

you'll have good reset rate

just watch ur nodes for RNG and restart that battle if needed

[gloomy kestrel]

also don't be shy to call in subs

[winged yarrow]

well be a little shy and call them late

cos they'll die

[minor pawn]

Call them too early and they die

[rapid cairn]

Theres any girl that I should level for 3 stars it easier on future?

[winged yarrow]

hmm?

i guess

gloucester

[stiff viper]

just get em to safe before 3* honestly

[winged yarrow]

is unironically goat on zero ammo 14

[stiff viper]

i managed to 3* 14-2 on threat 7, but 14-3 and -4 i had to safe first

[winged yarrow]

should have aquila within a few months as well

I 3* 14-4 lethal

[stiff viper]

madman

[rapid cairn]

I hope so, this year will be good, NJ, Shima, Aquila, and then I think things will be easier

[minor pawn]

That cant be fun

[winged yarrow]

nj doesnt fit

[gloomy kestrel]

skill issue, 3 started 14-3 while it was still lethal mostly cause I didn't bother to until fairly recently

[winged yarrow]

I three starred with musashi, but seeing all these threads of musashi dying, i guess i am actually skilled

[floral warren]

[gloomy kestrel]

yeah NJ's good in general but for W14 with all the other options she just doesn't fit anymore

Shima I imagine wouldn't make too much of a difference either

[winged yarrow]

shima for this fleet could swap heiny and be useful

[stiff viper]

i did 14-3 with uvh/nano/kron as my only URs, not as easy to lethal 3*

[gloomy kestrel]

swap in Shinano for Yorktown 2 and Henrich for Shima?

[winged yarrow]

actually, wait

i three star 14-4 with richi

[floral warren]

we have nj rerun this year?

[winged yarrow]

no musashi back then

[floral warren]

[minor pawn]

U prob tried 3* lethal way before musashi

[winged yarrow]

yea, i rmbr asking a ton

[minor pawn]

I told ran richy too and you me

[minor pawn]

Probably

[winged yarrow]

some speculate three ur rerun even

but all it is is speculate

[stiff viper]

bruh no

[rapid cairn]

And shima too!

I hope so atleast

[stiff viper]

literally need cubes for 4 urs and at least 2 reruns

3 if shima

and new events

[floral warren]

i only have kron nj missing so i dont care

[stiff viper]

and i had to pity york

[floral warren]

can you get 400 back before next ur

never did the math

[winged yarrow]

im having to skip majority gold events

if there are three UR reruns, then you cannot get 400 cubes for each rerun

[rapid cairn]

You can if you do a lot of commissions, like dont lose time

[winged yarrow]

if just two UR reruns, then commission + event supplement should be good

[rapid cairn]

Tbh you can even get more than 400

[stiff viper]

im at 260 now, but cny banner incoming

[floral warren]

thats all i needed to know

[gloomy kestrel]

I pity you newer players 4 URs being rerun in a row potentially

[stiff viper]

possible pasta rerun, new ur, nj rerun, more new ur

[floral warren]

why pity

[gloomy kestrel]

cause that's a lot of cubes needed potentially

[stiff viper]

honestly this is the worst year for me, everything i missed is gonna rerun now

[minor pawn]

U missed alot of urs?

[winged yarrow]

well, so

[floral warren]

but i'm 5 years old

[stiff viper]

2, nj and shima

[winged yarrow]

I left after ryuuhou's original run

so im getting everything

[gloomy kestrel]

honestley after NJ's rerun I can officially say f*ck new players

cause I'm done with reruns

[floral warren]

lul

[stiff viper]

ill still have to wait for blucher rerun because i overslept last day and didnt buy

[minor pawn]

Rip

I did that a couple of times for multiple events too

[stiff viper]

not a big concern, but still

[rapid cairn]

Finished all the W14. Thanks everyone

[winged yarrow]

now test 14-4 autosearch viability

[winged yarrow]

it'll be completely fine on safe tho

[fast marsh]

Ah yes

W14 autosearch is actual pain on lethal

[rapid cairn]

It work until 14-3, but 14-4 they got rekt lmao

[winged yarrow]

just now?

[rapid cairn]

Sorry, I was afk lol

[winged yarrow]

o

[winged yarrow]

eh, but what did this mean

[rapid cairn]

That i finished the map

[winged yarrow]

o

[fast marsh]

oh so for autosearch it gets rekt?

autosearch is like impossible on lethal consistently unless you use some really stacked setups involving pr5