Rebuilding Mob & Boss Fleet, help

[warm quartz]

Can someone help to rebuild mob and boss for w11+

here's what i have as Vanguard

and for Main

[little sparrow]

also repost the fleet list you posted earlier

[warm quartz]

uswd to have Warspite (Rf), Saratoga and Unicorn (Rf) + Helena (Rf), Noshiro and Edinbruh as Mob

NJ, Shinano and Enterprise + Laffey (Rf), San Diego (Rf) and Roon as Boss

[warm quartz]

that was just "advice" when i was considering changing units on OpSi

thats my current OpSi, but first and foremost wanna rebuild for outside of OpSi

[little sparrow]

yeah it would help with the rearranging

okay let's go with

fleet 1 mob, fleet 2 BB focused, fleet 3 cv focused, fleet 4 can be bb/cv focused alternate for HE

[warm quartz]

thats what i ran with for the longest time, for reference

with switching couple units here and there

[little sparrow]

you want suggestions with ships you can use right away or ships to work on later?

[warm quartz]

right away and maybe recommendations, which to focus for the long run

[little sparrow]

we can eep warkai, uni and sara for fleet 1 mobbing main fleet, but we can put in kronstadt as tank with laffey and san diego for dps, kron will buff the 2 bb fleets with her cross fleet support

[warm quartz]

So Mob Main as is with Kron -> Laffey -> Sandy?

[little sparrow]

yes

[jolly breach]

Swap WS with hood, and buy her unique augment, much better for mobbing

that vg you suggested is good tho

eventually switch laffey with yuudachi retrofit

[little sparrow]

fleet 2 bb, musashi flag, new jersey and uvh with agir helena and roon muse for ap damage with slows and debuffs

[jolly breach]

I'd do agir, shima, helena

kind of a waste to not use that shima

[warm quartz]

like this?

[little sparrow]

flee 3 cv should be ark enterprise and shinano, with cheshire kazagumo sirius/seattle

you'd want the damecon manjuu on helena tho

[jolly breach]

do you want to keep the kms roleplay fleet in opsi? if so theres a lot to change

[jolly breach]

these will be very good for w11, 12, might have to add more carriers/aa for 13.

[warm quartz]

giving up on nationfleets except for pr grindin, have used them for too long regularly

kinda why i'm on the rebuilding fleet trip rn

[little sparrow]

cool, fleet 4 bb can be fdg, tosa and amagi with roon leipzig and emden

[jolly breach]

what dev is fdg?

though I guess coins soon so it doesnt matter

[warm quartz]

28 or 29

havent been lucky with fdg and ägir bps

recently

[jolly breach]

close enough to be usable right away when it drops

[jolly breach]

I'd do ws instead of amagi here. Amagi never impressed me

[little sparrow]

that works too. brunhild would have been great too but she's not mlb

it would have been a pretty good kms setup with lutzow seydlitz and brunhild if they had the purin to spare

[jolly breach]

Last fleet to build should be cv. Shinano, enty, ark, roon, someone, cheshire

i want a cv buffer but dont see any

Kazagumo once mlb

[little sparrow]

independence can take sara place if desired

kazagumo is universal also sirius, chesh or roon can tank

hamman also has ARA and good aa but needs to be in the middle because squish

[jolly breach]

Ara is generally stronger than sirius buff, i'd go kaza for this fleet

would be nice to add one more ijn for shinano buff

[warm quartz]

so this for F3?

[jolly breach]

sure. YK2 in there eventually, but 2 UR bulins might take a bit

[little sparrow]

suzu if mlb can switch with seattle for shinano skill buff

or yukikaze main tank instead of chesh

[jolly breach]

no wait just use yuudahi instead of seattle

[little sparrow]

yeah that works too

[jolly breach]

never this, especially in opsi bossing

[warm quartz]

and F4 like this or mix BB/CV?

[little sparrow]

no mix, it's all cv or all bb

[jolly breach]

bb fleet bad. FDG flag, ws and tosa off

[little sparrow]

fdg should be middle , amagi can aim her barrage

[jolly breach]

why are you insisting on amagi

[little sparrow]

warspite can take one of the off flag slots

[jolly breach]

also, if it's an HE fleet use one of the cn ddg instead of leipzig

[little sparrow]

also if you have the chance to mlb her duke of york can replace amagi as a more offensive option

[jolly breach]

you have richy as well

actually, make this anti light and go richy flag (once levelled), fdg, ws, portland, ddg, emden

you have a ton of good ships availible, just work on slowly max limit breaking and levelling

[jolly breach]

Torbeau, agree?

[warm quartz]

so go with amagi (r3place with richy when ready), fdg, ws / port, leipzig (or roon?) emden for 4?

[jolly breach]

no, not roon or leipzig. Use one of the chinese missle destroyers as middle, and emden off.

the ddg damage rivals that of the backline, theyre broken

other than that, looking solid

[warm quartz]

so like this?

[jolly breach]

perfect

[manic spear]

invest in auroura

and replace emden

[jolly breach]

dude she's level 1

eventually yes, but too many other ships to build at the moment, no?

[manic spear]

auroura is extremly powerful against light and i did say invest :/

[jolly breach]

i mean yes

[warm quartz]

okay thx guys. for future work on Aurora, Richy, York II, brūnhilde, independence, roon mu anyone else (other than the sub 100s in the fleet rn)?

[manic spear]

If you want to work on less ships it doesn’t hurt to use hood with Aug over Richie

[jolly breach]

brunhilde and roon u useless

[manic spear]

Wdym brunhilde useless ??

Brunhilde is one of the best anti light bb ingame

[jolly breach]

well no she's not, but I'd prio a lot of others over her, like VV, aquilla, dork

[manic spear]

Falling behind only the UR bbs in terms of anti light contribution

[manic spear]

What does your opsi fleet look like rn?

[warm quartz]

thata what i been using for opsi

[manic spear]

Ment what they suggested

If they are calling brunhilde useless I’m scared what else they are saying

[jolly breach]

sorry

[warm quartz]

as far as i understood it, those for w11+ and opsi

[jolly breach]

campaign fleets will be a bit different. for w11, gonna want another bb instead of sara

[warm quartz]

sara for who?

[jolly breach]

are you gonna push today or wait a bit?

[warm quartz]

can wait

[jolly breach]

then fdg

[manic spear]

Swap kron and Portland

[warm quartz]

but mob van and boss can stay as is for campaign?

[manic spear]

For 11 the first 2 fleet work but for w12/13 you should come back another day , it requires a diffrent set of priorities

[jolly breach]

w12 and 13 will require almost a whole backline rework

[warm quartz]

but i'll prolly gonna work on getting most on lv. 100+ before even tryi g 12 and 13

[jolly breach]

@manic spear I don't usually help here and i know youre a regular, did I advise alright? don't want to mislead people (other than the brunhilde thing)

[manic spear]

[jolly breach]

[manic spear]

We all make mistakes , if you do it in main chat someone will correct you

[warm quartz]

as said above thx for the help, might come back for Equip qs that's gonna screw me over in 11 but that'd be a whole nother disaster