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[glacial cradle]

post your dock

[south holly]

okay one sec

[glacial cradle]

back n the day i ran
FDG unicorn volga drake shimakaze yuudachi for mob

and i pretty sure there other thing can run it too

[south holly]

current mob fleet

[glacial cradle]

ditch perceus

[toxic isle]

Ditch rockets

Ditch twin 100s

Ditch quint mags

[glacial cradle]

let take it slow

[toxic isle]

[glacial cradle]

ship first then gear

[toxic isle]

Rebuild from scratch

[south holly]

okay

[toxic isle]

Glhf minus

[south holly]

one sec

boss fleet is fine btw

just need help with mob auto

so should i remove everyone?

start from scratch?

[glacial cradle]

not really

just post your dock to see if we can do better first

[south holly]

easy way to screenshot the whole thing, or just post multiple?

[glacial cradle]

sort by level and post the first 2-3 page

more if want

and yea just post multiple

no needed to edit

[old walrus]

glhf minus

[south holly]

everyone you see has skills maxed out

[glacial cradle]

volga instead of perceus
and i would ran shimakze in mob also instead of kita

[south holly]

okay, is the 120 on volga ok?

i can book her to 125 if need be

[glacial cradle]

120 should be okay

but she will go to bottom instead of top

[south holly]

understandable

[glacial cradle]

for boss fleet just run 2 CB + anchorage for vanguard cause you move shimakaze to mob

[south holly]

not geared rn, but i can move stuff around

i dont have another cb for boss

[glacial cradle]

wait he dont have 2nd CB

[south holly]

since kron is in mob

[glacial cradle]

jervis shimakaze yuudachi mob

agir kron anchor boss

[old walrus]

i'd try
musa volga uni jervis shima yuudachi
fdg vanguard hakuryuu agir kron ancho

omg

[south holly]

wont mob die without kron??

[old walrus]

im snail

Jervis volga doesnt die

jervis is suitably tanky for w14 mobs

[south holly]

jervis only 118 rn, but ill bring her to 120

[old walrus]

volgaless jervis, would probably use kron

well no this is autosearch safe

jervis survives with just uni

[glacial cradle]

he have volga and he will use volga so

[old walrus]

yes

but giving context

for how useful or not jervis is

[glacial cradle]

yea

would still keep fdg for mob tho
having both shima and mushashi for mob is too overkill imo

having mushashi boss to grantee S rank

[south holly]

wait can i get context

on why volga jervis is better than pers uni

[glacial cradle]

perceus is bad tldr
volga is good so volga > perceus

[old walrus]

jervis is vanguard and doesnt replace uni cvl

[south holly]

okay sry, i didnt realize pers isnt meta anymore

[glacial cradle]

jervis is basically = kron for mob tank

[south holly]

i thought she was still goated

[glacial cradle]

she still good yea, but she suck in w14 cause have bad dmg

[old walrus]

but volga stronger than perse cos killing bb nodes > healing 7% and tanking them for ages

bad dmg means tank strong enemies very long

[glacial cradle]

so fdg or mushashi for mob?
personally i would like fdg more

[old walrus]

agir kron ancho are all maxed tho

[south holly]

okay, and youre saying that jervis takes main tank slot?

as a dd?

[glacial cradle]

yes

[south holly]

this is crazy, but ok

[old walrus]

jervis is the tankiest dd

hull class matters less than skills

[old walrus]

poor

eyeball ECTL recommendations

[south holly]

she just has leveling gear rn, i can put real stuff on her

[glacial cradle]

well dmg is bigger factor too many wave of enemy. so needed to clear faster to grantee S rank
haku and vanguard will help but i dont think will help that much

[old walrus]

follow ectl, plus asw equips, plus AP bb guns

[south holly]

ECTL?

[glacial cradle]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide

he meant this

[old walrus]

I clear with way worse fleet, the real A rank for me was random snipe

[glacial cradle]

yea

[old walrus]

well not way worse, but MP Vanny Enty

[south holly]

okay thank you

[glacial cradle]

but i rather not A rank at all probaly dont matter tho

[south holly]

so volga cant equip the two asw planes i had on pers

[glacial cradle]

both fdg and musashi are broken in w14

[old walrus]

i think volga uni are more susceptible to A rank than boss

[south holly]

not needed? or should i put them on uni?

[old walrus]

both on Uni is good

0 ammo triple dd node subs are tough

[toxic isle]

You really don't need two asw planes when Musashi

[old walrus]

ive had musashi go 10% from too many fires and max reveal

[glacial cradle]

that fleet will be fine. i basically run that fleet but autoclear but with better gear and have 0 problem
so point taken

[toxic isle]

That must be a skill issue

[glacial cradle]

so mushashi mob
FDG boss
=>
mob: Mushashi uni volga jervis shima yuudachi
boss: Fdg vanguard haku or something simillar agir kron anchorage

now to gears

[south holly]

geared volga

ill gear jervis next

anything specfic?

[glacial cradle]

i would just run 1 ASW plane on unicorn
scepter for augment on unicorn and volga instead of bow
shimakaze run double oxytorp
headgehog depth charge on yuudachi
tool kit on jervis

[south holly]

wait fdg is going to boss?

musashi on mob?

[toxic isle]

Use a 2x1000 lb fighter for Volga
There is zero chance rocket fighter is better

[south holly]

sorry im snailing behind the convo

[glacial cradle]

and would not run rocket

[glacial cradle]

mushashi is best BB for w14
FDG is second best BB for w14
so depent on what fleet is suffer more to field them

[south holly]

put tigercat on volga

gimme a sec, ill put scepter on uni volga

[glacial cradle]

that good

also do you have black feather?

[south holly]

i do

[glacial cradle]

that give 90 avi and 12 eva. kinda good on CV for w14

and that should be it for unicon and volga

[toxic isle]

Feather goes on haku then

[south holly]

also for reference i have tripe 410 on musa rn

[glacial cradle]

that good

[south holly]

ok

regular mk6 on fdg

[glacial cradle]

if you run fdg i would recommend twin 457mm or champ gun

[south holly]

no twin 457 yet unfortunately

[glacial cradle]

champ gun then

[south holly]

ok

[glacial cradle]

also change your 2ndary gun on BBs

[south holly]

which one is champ gun

[old walrus]

406/MLE PR3

[south holly]

ive only got 1, on vanguard rn

[glacial cradle]

hmmmm

and you cant craft a seconds?

well if you cant craft a second one run FDG shinano hakuryuu then

if you have enough CV gear

[south holly]

i do, ill run that

double toolkit on jervis?

[glacial cradle]

also change the secondary gun on BB to defense again ramming boat first

[old walrus]

toolkit jcrown on jervis

[south holly]

ok jervis

let me fix volga uni one sec

[glacial cradle]

defensive on jervis
torp stats on shimakaze
asw on yuudachi

[south holly]

i got double oxy on shima

and hedge depth on yuudachi

[old walrus]

i mean, shima wont die, but that's a bit

[south holly]

double asw plane on uni

[old walrus]

well whatever

[glacial cradle]

trust me on this

actually make a big different

[south holly]

volga with gear

gave uni scepter

[glacial cradle]

1 asw plane is enough

overkill even. and tiger cat also instead of rocket

tiger cat > rocket in w14

[south holly]

okay 1 sec

what were you saying about black feather

whos that for

[glacial cradle]

it a catapult but it give eva

so CV that get hitted by BB a lot

before i ran it on volga

it just some minmaxing i do not a must thing to do

[old walrus]

put on the non-musa fleet CV

volga catching some heat with musa means nothing

[glacial cradle]

yea

before i ran her with fdg so it help

[south holly]

okay gimme 2min, ill have a full fleet gear pic for both

[glacial cradle]

take it slow

[south holly]

nah this is good advice, dont wanna lose u gusy

brb

[old walrus]

we have alt tab no rush

[south holly]

boss

mob

[old walrus]

stop the rocket

alot of small specific scuff, i trust in minus

[south holly]

the rocket on haku?

[old walrus]

more

swap jervis yuudachi main guns

[south holly]

ok

[glacial cradle]

1st: do you have triple 155mm kai or twin 130 mm
they will be best option for BB secondary slot

2nd: you want either rainbow quint or gold quad for torp for shimakaze and yuudachi

3nd yuudachi want a good dd gun like twin 114mm or twin 128mm skc

else are good to me or good enough

[old walrus]

or just take jervis' 130

[glacial cradle]

yea

[old walrus]

jervis makes do with 100 better than yuudachi

[south holly]

wait let me work through this step by step

so bb secondary on fdg and musashi

[old walrus]

triple 155kai

[south holly]

yes, i have the protoypes

ill grab them off helena and jda

one sec

wait, switch out musashis trip152 for rip155kai?

ok

is this w14 specific or just generally better?

[glacial cradle]

w14

[south holly]

gotcha

context?

the crazy amount of suicide boats?

[glacial cradle]

you can say it generally better also cause w14 is where it matter other world dont have nearly as much backline dmg as w14

[south holly]

makes sense

[glacial cradle]

not the amount
the tankiness and the speed
slower and a lot more tankier so you want more dps than burst/piece

[south holly]

ok that makes a lot of sense

so 155kai is now on both fdg and musashi

so no rainbow quints unfortunately

i already have gold quad on shimi

[glacial cradle]

so gold quad mag. it basically the same

[south holly]

ill put gold quad on yuudachi as well one sec

okay gold quad mags on both

now for yuudachis main, i have no good dd mains

[glacial cradle]

take jervis gun

[south holly]

i do have a twin 128

if thats ok

[glacial cradle]

gold?

[south holly]

yea

[old walrus]

skc*

not eagle union

or was that `127

whatever

[south holly]

45 sk c

yea

[old walrus]

still prefer 130 yuudachi for better rammer dealing

[south holly]

okay, then twin 128 on jervis?

[old walrus]

i spose

[glacial cradle]

yea

[south holly]

graverobbing all my other ships rn

but ok, twin 128 on jervis now, and twin 130 on yuudachi

[glacial cradle]

well time to test it out

it can go horriblly wrong still

cause w14

should be fine tho

[south holly]

im worried about the level diff on volga and jervis

[glacial cradle]

it dont matter much really

cause it on safe

[south holly]

these are the formations btw

[old walrus]

look gud

maybe

put a beacon on shinano

sorry for being confusing

[south holly]

all good

ill do it after this run

i just put it on clear mode and did a little prayer

[old walrus]

too many rainbows to worry

[glacial cradle]

i start to doubt my double oxy shimakaze strat, 3 dd so more ramming

[old walrus]

idunno

if they cant do 14-4 with volga uni safe

they just arent meant for 14

[south holly]

ive put too much oil into getting 14 safe

[glacial cradle]

welp too late now

[south holly]

i will brute force it if i have to

[glacial cradle]

also put the mob ship in dorm
although no more exp but keep morale > 0 so no annoying notification

[south holly]

ok will do

you dont just keep the ships ur leveling in dorm:?

[old walrus]

depends how hard i farming

[glacial cradle]

yea as long as i dont have annoying notification i am good

[south holly]

musashi in mob was a good idea

shes taking a lot of the damage uni and volga would be taking

[glacial cradle]

overkill is good

[south holly]

i just dont know if i can kill boss without her

[old walrus]

listen

i used vanny indep enty

[south holly]

o

[glacial cradle]

i used NJ uvh aquilla

not even fdg

[south holly]

is fdg still meta relevant?

[old walrus]

w14 wise, very

[glacial cradle]

fdg is second best BB in w14 only behind mushashi so

[south holly]

nj doesnt compete?

[glacial cradle]

w14? not even close really

[old walrus]

not in moblike noding

[glacial cradle]

kekw

[south holly]

i dont have her yet, but i assumed she was best bb in the game

letting a lot of torp boats through

but otherwise doing ok so far

musashi at half health for first 0ammo fight

her damage kinda insane for 0 ammo tho

[glacial cradle]

other ships help also
volga is much better than perceus for dmg
and shimakaze too

[south holly]

okay made it to boss

that was actually so much better

for mob

ty guys

[glacial cradle]

np

[south holly]

died to boss

fdg died really quick

[glacial cradle]

shit

[south holly]

she was quarter health by the time boss spawned

[glacial cradle]

should have retry

do you have aquilla?

[south holly]

not yet

state of boss fleet after that fight

[glacial cradle]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

put a beacon on shinano
try this

[south holly]

okay

i also forgot to take rocket off haku

[old walrus]

ngl

i think giving musashi the ammo node

will clear the boss

I've done a salvage like that before

[glacial cradle]

[south holly]

that'd be kinda funny

[glacial cradle]

i can see that happen

[south holly]

just put beacon on shinano

and put pirate squad on haku

[old walrus]

oh you retreated

alright

[glacial cradle]

yea too late

no twin 457 kinda hurt right now

and only 1 champ gun

[south holly]

i can get a twin 457

i have enough bps

if its truly worth it

[glacial cradle]

if the fleet still fail get it

[south holly]

ok

[glacial cradle]

and if so vanguard instead of shinano

[south holly]

457 on fdg

and champ gun on vanguard

[glacial cradle]

yea

you want dmg up time less burst in boss
cause there like 6 waves of enemy

would like uvh but no aquilla so no way to protect uvh

[south holly]

i grabbed the 457

let me switch this stuff around

[glacial cradle]

wait atleast try the fleet first

[south holly]

i need the 457 anyway

[glacial cradle]

welp too late

kekw

[south holly]

been holding onto those bps forever no worries

[old walrus]

haku

[glacial cradle]

he change it already so

look good

[old walrus]

he said vf but i feel like he would forget again

w/e

[south holly]

got it switched, ty

im gonna turn subs off for the run

see if i can do it w/o them, since rng makes it weird anyway

[old walrus]

autosubs only helps mob fleet, which doesnt need helping

[glacial cradle]

put them on hunting mode
can fast up some mob fight

[south holly]

does that work with clearing mode

isnt the mode locked

[glacial cradle]

turn off auto search
put hunting mode
turn on autosearch

[south holly]

and it'll save it for the next clearing?

[glacial cradle]

yea

[south holly]

ok will do

also uni volga pulling off some magic rn

shimi has no right to be alive

[old walrus]

clearing mode has autocall subs as an option

starting the sortie

[glacial cradle]

not auto call

[old walrus]

i see what you mean

[glacial cradle]

yea

auto call and hunting is different thing

[glacial cradle]

they will be full health after 3 fight with 0 ammo
which is yea

even with double oxy torp

[old walrus]

well shima is tanky too

[glacial cradle]

yep

[old walrus]

esp sandwiched with torp reduc

[south holly]

the only one not full health is musashi

shes just tanking so much, kinda insane

i think once i get jervis and volga to 125

this will be that much easier

fdg died again

[glacial cradle]

Kekw

[south holly]

gonna give musashi a flare and ammo and just fight it

for luls

[glacial cradle]

Time to switch mushashi and fdg spot

Yep

[south holly]

keep 457 on fdg?

[glacial cradle]

Yea

Probaly unlucky burn

But still fdg is unlucky ship with 0 luck

Kekw

[south holly]

okay really fucking funny

but mob fleet just s cleared boss

with ammo and flares

[glacial cradle]

Or you can try put fdg top haku mid

[old walrus]

ive been wanting to say that fdg should wear rudder

[glacial cradle]

Yea

[old walrus]

but i thought she was better than that

[glacial cradle]

Also who better with twin 457

Vanguard or fdg

[south holly]

so not switching musashi and fdg?

[old walrus]

i dont know if fdg oneshots bbs with 457

[glacial cradle]

[glacial cradle]

Well if we try this
Might as well try do as much as possible

[old walrus]

i think vanny with 457 is prob better cos fdg is all shelling, needs to clear bbs each salvo

[glacial cradle]

Yea

Not like we losing anything

[south holly]

is not having aquilla my bottleneck rn

[old walrus]

ngl

[glacial cradle]

If boss fail you can always use mob to clear boss

[south holly]

or am i just gear deficit

[old walrus]

just put FE rudder on fdg

already

no shot mp is stronger than fdg

and im very consistent with mp

[south holly]

okay so whats the change list rn

rudder on fdg

[old walrus]

FE rudder on fdg

[south holly]

457 on vanguard

champ gun on fdg

[glacial cradle]

Yea

[old walrus]

fire extinguisher -> FE

[south holly]

and putting fdg top and haku mid

[old walrus]

i wouldnt do that

[south holly]

ok keeping fdg mid

what am i taking off fdg for this rudde

[old walrus]

fire extinguisher rudder

both auxes defensive

[south holly]

oh both

rudder

[toxic isle]

had the wrong augment the entire time

[south holly]

oh?

[toxic isle]

sword is 20 free evasion

[glacial cradle]

Sword give 17+ extra eva so yea
I forgot

[south holly]

ok, swored up

[glacial cradle]

dont thing about it too much tho. Augment come after w14

[south holly]

updates

with sword now on fdg

gonna run it

also gonna put subs in hunting mode

[old walrus]

I run this, i dont quite know where your problems are

[south holly]

most probably its gear

[glacial cradle]

Well his vanguard is mostly tanky

[south holly]

i dont have any +13

[glacial cradle]

Yuudachi shimakaze and deal ton of torp dmg

[south holly]

also i might be missing out damage during boss

by having 3 cb?

[glacial cradle]

By the look of it no

In your sc
You have mogami spawn at 2m

Which is really good already

[south holly]

oh ok

[glacial cradle]

My guess is unlucky burn

[south holly]

will the switch to FE Rudder take away too much damage?

[glacial cradle]

Best to try it

[old walrus]

doubt

[glacial cradle]

If fdg have a lot of health left run just only rudder
If not keep it

[old walrus]

i dont think so

if she has too much hp, then they had enough dmg in the first place

[south holly]

only worry is that without firing table fdg might unsync with vanny

[old walrus]

else the bbs would kill through fe

Unsyncing is the whole purpose

[glacial cradle]

Let just left that aside

[south holly]

oh?

[glacial cradle]

Cause you dont want synchronization in w14

[old walrus]

My vanny fires before my MP, and my clears are stellar

[south holly]

gotcha gotcha

mob fleet went out of its way to avoid the fleets that the subs hunted

as is usual

mogami out by 2:08

fdg full health this time

you guys are amazing

thanks sm

[old walrus]

well 14-4 is rng

it's testing against statistics lel

how often can u get S rank vs A rank or failure

musashi is prob 100%

[glacial cradle]

Yea

At least you have backup

If boss fleet die

[south holly]

haha well it looked convincing

vanguard got down to about a third health each

but backline was still very healthy

appreciate you guys nonetheless, ty for all the help