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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:47 AM

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ez

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ok so

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Jervis purpose is to main tank for mobs, but her dmg isnt consistent enough to intercept rammers

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might as well put a higher dmg ship in for middle when you have drake tanking instead of jervis

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:48 AM

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Someone suggested independence, which I do have

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Is it worth plugging Montpelier in instead of jervis?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:48 AM

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no, monty is low damage

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:49 AM

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if you want a high damaging DD thats ez to get, its kitakaze

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:49 AM

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if you could post dock, would be easy to eyeball

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sort by rarity and all URs-SRs

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:49 AM

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pls sort by vanguard / main too if possible HakuCry

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:50 AM

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Van

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Van

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Main

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Main

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How’s that

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:52 AM

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epic

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hm

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am i crazy or is jervis actually a good slot

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:53 AM

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personally i've used musashi, unicorn, volga, CB, kitakaze and yuudachi for full auto mob

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:53 AM

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missing a solid asw option i think

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:53 AM

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prob waka is fine?

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wakatsuki

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:53 AM

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Wakat is good

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:53 AM

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Jervis has hedgehog, subs aren’t a problem

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:53 AM

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i was eyeballing maxed

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0 ammo triple dd nodes are where asw req is stringent

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:54 AM

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Yeah fair

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:54 AM

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jervis is ok for asw but she wouldnt do much damage, i would say wakatsuki replaces jervis

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:54 AM

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easily

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:55 AM

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Shouldn’t be too much investment for that ~

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:55 AM

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musashi volga unicorn jervis wakatsuki yuudachi
Vanguard New Jersey Shinano Kron Drake Anchorage

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:55 AM

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somber folio Shouldn’t be too much investment for that ~

she just needs level, she alr 116 anyway

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:55 AM

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i think jervis can stay

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:56 AM

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jervis > Prake?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:56 AM

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drake in boss

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:56 AM

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Hmm

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:56 AM

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ooh right, eyeball issue MakinaSmug

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:57 AM

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Some YouTuber I watched said I should try to have at least two dds in the boss fleet 😅

Not so?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:57 AM

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that mob fleet should be enough for full-auto mobs Thinkpitz

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nah, 3 cruisers are fine for boss fleet

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esp since all 3 of those are very tanky

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:58 AM

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Let me see if I have enough xp to skyrocket wakatsuki

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:58 AM

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with jervis and yuudachi, dont need to raise wakat

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but wakat is also dd fp tech

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so doesnt hurt

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:59 AM

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Oh well, I already pushed her to 122, which should work, I guess?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:59 AM

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i assume shinano uses fighter + wyvern?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:59 AM

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depends who you ask

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 6:59 AM

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what would you use?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 6:59 AM

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I'd recommend double helldiver alot

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 6:59 AM

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Uh I have mine set up with two saiun kais

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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w14 bossing needs major AoE

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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jade sedge I'd recommend double helldiver alot

i'll give it a test

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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somber folio Uh I have mine set up with two saiun kais

and you dont have slow, you wont hit much with converging

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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personally i used musashi shinano on mob, so i put fighters for a bit better CD

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but I dont think that this is standard

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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Helldiver? Like the purple one?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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Yes

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third strongest DB regardless

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

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That’s so odd

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It’s even better than the sr experimental one?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:01 AM

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no, the experimental one is expensive, and needs to be +13

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i

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:01 AM

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sr is second DB

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tenrai is first

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:01 AM

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I do have one that is that

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:02 AM

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somber folio I do have one that is that

+13?

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:02 AM

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Yeah

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:02 AM

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yea then use it

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:02 AM

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F

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but yea use it

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:02 AM

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Volga in the mob fleet even at 119?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:03 AM

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volga role is a damage/healer

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you can slowly level her up to 125

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:04 AM

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flag her with musashi off flag tbh

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just for flag exp

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and comp should handle it

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:04 AM

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Hmmm

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Uni really just replaced percy, huh?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:05 AM

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completely for campaign

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:05 AM

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Funny how that works

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Cuz she doesn’t have the reload penalty?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:05 AM

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right

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:05 AM

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percy can barely scratch the mobs in w14

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and reloads takes ages

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:06 AM

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I’m configuring everything I’ll show y’all in a sec lol

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Hedgehog on who?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:08 AM

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wakat

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:11 AM

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Alright uh I think I’m all set up

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You want to see the gear setups as well?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:12 AM

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sure

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:12 AM

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does ancho tank for kron

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im pretty sure she does

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:12 AM

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rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:13 AM

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what is that maingun

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:13 AM

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somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:13 AM

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rapid brook what is that maingun

The British 120s

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:13 AM

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somber folio

double toolbox, 114 for maingun and quad mag torps

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:13 AM

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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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rapid brook what is that maingun

the british gearlab 114 dps but with long reload

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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rapid brook double toolbox, 114 for maingun and quad mag torps

jcrown

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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jade sedge the british gearlab 114 dps but with long reload

isnt jervis AOA decent enough for a barrage gun?

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on right theres jcrown now

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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rapid brook isnt jervis AOA decent enough for a barrage gun?

She has a great aoa and poorisj guns

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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meaning 114 is better

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musa is also poor

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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oof

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:14 AM

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rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:15 AM

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you do not need inproved rudder on DDs btw

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its always health aux

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:15 AM

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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:15 AM

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twin 100s are also weak

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:15 AM

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its safe to say

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almost everything needs changing

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MakinaSmug

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:15 AM

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I’ll just post everything and respond after lol

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:16 AM

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rapid brook almost everything needs changing

I just give ships gear that I think they would have and I don’t think twice lol

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rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:17 AM

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basically everyone that can use torps, will use gold quad mag torps, except prakes +13 quin torps, thats fine

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:17 AM

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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:18 AM

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yeah everything could be changed

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:18 AM

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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:18 AM

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musa on top

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:18 AM

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Right now I’m a bit limited on gear parts ha

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But I’ll do what I can

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:19 AM

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musa and unicorn swap placement

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top slot takes alotta damage

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:19 AM

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jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:19 AM

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coughfee

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gl on gearing

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bye

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:19 AM

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bruh

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:19 AM

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I dont want to walk through "do you have this, no then that"

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:19 AM

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tbh the easiest way

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is to

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https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:20 AM

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ectl is actually ok but

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:20 AM

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check this out

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:20 AM

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need to special mention a few gear

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:20 AM

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most of the gear is alright

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:20 AM

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jade sedge bye

Thank you for helping regardless !

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:20 AM

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read ectl gear descriptions

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special mention on AP bb guns being useful both mob and boss in W14

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except musa

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:21 AM

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if you're farming w14-4 ectl is fine

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:22 AM

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Sorry, not sure what you mean by ectl?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:22 AM

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rapid brook https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

following this is fine for W14-4 i meant

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:22 AM

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So this is like

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The top one is best, the bottom one is third best

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:23 AM

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i would say all of them are for different purpose rather than best > shit

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sicne youre using musa for mob

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the purple main gun is correct

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but 2nd weapon should be 155kai from gearlab

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:26 AM

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Aw jeez this is getting complicated now lol

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You don’t think I can clear with my current gear load out?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:26 AM

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somber folio You don’t think I can clear with my current gear load out?

you can always try

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but i doubt

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volga should go with tigercat / helldiver / wyvern

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musa goes with twin 410 kai

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unicorn is fine

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if you still have sub problems

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you can change unicorn aux to asw planes

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:27 AM

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Mmhm

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Is +10 acceptable?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:28 AM

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yes ofc

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your dd should be

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:28 AM

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I do have a lot of gear sitting around, try me

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:28 AM

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Jcrown+toolbox on jervis, toolbox+hedgehog on wakatsuki, double toolbox for yuudachi

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:29 AM

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I don’t think I have +10 twin 114s right now tho, and I can’t get j crown to +10

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:30 AM

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whats your jcrown enhancement at?

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tashkent gun works for yuudachi too

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this weapon is fine

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:31 AM

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How’s +6

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I’m lacking gear parts right now x_x

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:31 AM

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+6 on any weapon is awful, auxes is workable

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:32 AM

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+8 on crown

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All the torps are replaced with gold quad mags

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How is the USN twin 127

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I have plenty of those

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:36 AM

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somber folio How is the USN twin 127

i haven't use that thing in a million years, i have no idea how that gun performs Ehhssex

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since your 100 is already max, i would say just go test it out

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if its fine, then you're good to go

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:36 AM

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My 100?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:37 AM

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the ijn DD gold gun

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:37 AM

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Ah right right

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Well, I’ll let you know if you want to hear haha

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:38 AM

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the twin 100 is poor but

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musa carry

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:38 AM

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as long as your frontline dont fold, its fine

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:39 AM

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jervis wakat yuudachi with uni volga, is gud

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:39 AM

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jade sedge jervis wakat yuudachi with uni volga, is gud

whats your fleets for W14-4 farm btw

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:39 AM

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Swap Yuudachi and jervis main guns

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:40 AM

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rapid brook whats your fleets for W14-4 farm btw

Musa Shinano Uni Jervis Wakat Suzut
MP Vanny Enty Agir Yuudachi Ancho

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:40 AM

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full auto?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:40 AM

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Yes

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MP needs rudder FE tho

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and lethal is slightly different

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i use jda over yuudachi and yuudachi over suzut

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recently i am raising klaudia and will see how mobbing goes

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ive had musa shinano go to 10% before at the end of mobbing

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havent ever died tho

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:44 AM

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hmm volga uni and musa

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sometimes gets to around sub 10% too

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abit too close for comfort

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i assume you autocall subs?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:46 AM

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Nop

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i made a point to test autosearch without subs

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:46 AM

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nice, yea mine too

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cuz its not 100% the 0 ammo node will land on subs

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:46 AM

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I have rudders on musa shin mp enty

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so that is my safety net

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uni's always fine, vanny is consistent enough

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:48 AM

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cb + 2 dd prob will work just as good as 3dds right?

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in mobbin

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:49 AM

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oh of course

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works better given the UR cbs

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:49 AM

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best is prob kronk?

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:49 AM

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it's not like all three dds wear ASW

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kronk is most recommended, i not familiar enough

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:50 AM

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is using brest as a safety net

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cuz she kinda heals musa

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:50 AM

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Well, I was able to clear it, but it was pretty sketchy lol

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:50 AM

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forgot brest ngl

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:50 AM

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somber folio Well, I was able to clear it, but it was pretty sketchy lol

who sketched

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which side of things

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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At least I thought so

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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mob or boss?

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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The mob fleet came close to dying

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The boss fleet barely scraped by

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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its normal for it to end with 25% ~ 10% hp from what i can see

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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In terms of time

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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is it safe 14-4

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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musashis hp i meant

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:51 AM

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It’s safe yes

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:52 AM

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rudder musa and rudder nj vanny

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if u can

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:52 AM

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I can do both of those

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All three Jk

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:52 AM

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did boss vanguard come close to dying? it shouldnt have

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30% hp finish is pretty normal

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:53 AM

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Well if that’s normal, then they’re fine

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It was mostly the time, I was close to 1 min

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:53 AM

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that's also normal for me, but I using weaker ships

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

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i mean the "mob" section of the boss fight is pretty long so

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

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Also realized I had a +6 gun on musa which I swapped for a +13 gold triple USN 406

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

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even ghost full rainbow had a run finishing at 1:15

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

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1min left is still alot of time so its fine

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+6 what gun

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MutsukiHyperStare

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+6 of any gun is bad

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

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+6 main gun…

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

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twin 410 is the most important

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gun for musa

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in a mobbing context

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no wonder it went poorly

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:55 AM

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Yeah it was a +6 twin 410 cuz u just made it

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:55 AM

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im surprised

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you managed to complete it

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:55 AM

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LOL

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:55 AM

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with a +6 gun tbh

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:55 AM

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I got lucky with spawns

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Lots of 2s, lots of sub fleet engagement

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:55 AM

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if you're stock with medals

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you can go exchange some plates

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:56 AM

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Or I can upgrade a piece of gear in the gear lab and get the refund…

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Gonna go look for one

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:58 AM

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although gun plates are not the easiest thing to run out tbh

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how many guns did you upgrade over the lifetime in the game Ehhssex

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 7:58 AM

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Done, +10 twin 410s

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I like to uh upgrade lots of guns

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I like to give each of my girls their own guns and I upgrade them if I like them or use them enough

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 7:59 AM

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that explains it

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MakinaSmug

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:00 AM

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rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:00 AM

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all those +13 is makin me cry

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:00 AM

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I don’t usually care about what’s good 😅

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Cuz for most of the game you don’t need to

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W14 is the first time I’ve been truly challenged

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:01 AM

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somber folio Cuz for most of the game you don’t need to

true, only the end game content needs it

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:02 AM

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Im saving gold gun parts for when New Jerseys gun comes back so I can instantly +13 it

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Alrught rudders are on the bbs, twin 410s on musa

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Gonna go for round 2

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:02 AM

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i'd say champy guns etc is more important

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i think it should be fine now, it shouldnt be harder than the previous run

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:06 AM

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Hey, relevant question

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How important is S rank for drop rate

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I want nola BibleThump

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 8:07 AM

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Guarantees rng ship drop

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I do not know ship drop rate of A rank finishes

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:08 AM

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jade sedge Guarantees rng ship drop

this means 100% chance to get any of the droppable ships, not 100% getting new orleans

jade sedge Dec 17, 2022, 8:08 AM

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delete ping Omegalilwoo i edited

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:09 AM

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So you want the s rank

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100%

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Which I figured, but I wasn’t sure if A rank was passable, yk?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:13 AM

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@somber folio just curious, since you're only using a single hedgehog, are you leaking submarines on mobs?

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:19 AM

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It looks like it yes

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If by that you mean, some submarines are getting to the main fleet

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:20 AM

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u can use those aux, those are asw planes, they hit subs

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:21 AM

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Yup yup ik those

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Is the avenger or swordfish better?

rapid brook Dec 17, 2022, 8:21 AM

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avenger from what i heard

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how was the 2nd run? better?

somber folio Dec 17, 2022, 8:22 AM

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It was yes

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I actually didn’t exactly autosearch it, instead I chose the fleets I thought would be the hardest to beat, and the mob fleet held up

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Boss fleet cleared with the clock at 1:18

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Gonna try again with a full auto run

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Well third run was buttery smooth

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I think I’ll be able to autoclear this one now

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Thank you guys so so much @rapid brook @jade sedge

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