Fleet Building for HARD ARBITER | Temperance XIV | LIGHT ARMOR

[jagged crag]

Here's my dock! So...who should I change?
https://imgur.com/a/RBB6uLx

[prisma skiff]

dont bring healing in arbiter fight

also you hab mushashi use her

[dusk wave]

Imo replace warspite for howe, warspite is only better against dds

[jagged crag]

(Also since she's light I just use the BF-109G and the Triple 406 Mk6 right)

[prisma skiff]

your first fleet you should reform it

[dusk wave]

also I'd replace jb with musashi, she has trouble replacing the ur bb fleet since they're all better than her in light

[prisma skiff]

move ulrich or NJ in different fleet like fleet1

[dusk wave]

pretty sure first fleet is only for mobbing and they're mainly focusing on the 3 fleets

[jagged crag]

I'm focusing on all fleets, and yea the first fleet was for mobbing!

[prisma skiff]

yeah but when im getting trouble in arbiter fights i just reform my fleet to clear it

[dusk wave]

with those 3 fleets it\s very possible for you to defeat it

[jagged crag]

manually right?

[dusk wave]

especially since you have 6 tries in total, 3 from original and 1 more after regroup and rest

[molten dew]

did these fleets not work? should two fleet it

[loud hamlet]

can u regroup and rest in hard?

[dusk wave]

I'd say so

[prisma skiff]

its hard mode

[dusk wave]

Oh right

only 3 tries

[loud hamlet]

yea thats what i was confused about

[low juniper]

how that setup not kill Harbiter

[prisma skiff]

you shoud use mushashi tbh

[jagged crag]

my gear probably

[low juniper]

What is your gear?

[prisma skiff]

already tested mushashi in temperance she still do more dmg than my ulrich lol

[dusk wave]

Put musashi in 3rd fleet and replace warspite with howe

replace shimakaze with an shan in the 2nd fleet

[low juniper]

I would use warspite over howe cos howe is unbuffed.

[molten dew]

Vanguard UvH NJ Aegir Aurora Helena
is a one fleet already

[jagged crag]

I think I was using the ...Triple 406 /50 instead of the 406 mk6

[dusk wave]

wouldn't howe still be better unbuffed though? especially against light?

warspites only better against howe in dds

[low juniper]

I don't remember the exact numbers unfortunately so I can't confirm it

[prisma skiff]

use aegir

[jagged crag]

Aegir is at dev26 btw, that's still ok right

[dusk wave]

dev25 good enough

she can tank better than sanfran

[molten dew]

aegir is for slow

[dusk wave]

that too

[jagged crag]

So your guys' changes (that I see) would be...

• Replace JB with Musashi
• Replace Warspite with Howe
• Replace SanFran with Agir(?)
• Replace Shima with Aurora
  • Move Aurora in middle
  • Move Helena to far right

[molten dew]

and kill the mob fleet

Aurora replaces shimakaze, and Aurora middle Helena third

[dusk wave]

Your fleets arw looking to be
NJ/Vang/UVH/Agir/Aurora/Helena
Richelieu/Musashi/Warspite/SanFran/JDA/AnShan

Slap rainbow gun on ulrich

The one from nj event not 457

[jagged crag]

457? you mean the 460?

[dusk wave]

Not that either

[prisma skiff]

dont use that cuz its light armor boss

[dusk wave]

3 rainbow guns exist, 460 457 and 406

Im referring ti 406

[sonic latch]

Huh why not bruinhilde

[jagged crag]

oh yeaaa the other bb gun is that slim one

So then their gear looks like this:

[sonic latch]

Vanguard might have to run double shells

[dusk wave]

Brunhilde is level 108 I dont think they're gonna be levelling her up within the matter pf today unless they have packs stored up

[jagged crag]

I have packs stored up (1211)

[dusk wave]

Ye like that

[molten dew]

what happened to your AFCT

the rainbow table

[jagged crag]

Oh, I'm not using the HSFCR for the faster BB reloads?

[sonic latch]

Table is a better hsfcr

[loud hamlet]

the vanguard aux

[jagged crag]

Oop, okay! Who am I putting it on? Ulrich?

[sonic latch]

Yeah

[low juniper]

You don't want it on UvH tho

Cos she off flags no?

[loud hamlet]

i usually run it on vanguard but idk if thats optimal

[sonic latch]

Nj doesn’t need it as bad as ulrich, ulrich off flag still runs table

Only time no table ulrich is with 457

[low juniper]

Oh right

[jagged crag]

So...put it on Ulrich...gotcha

[sonic latch]

Btw , you are prob gonna swap Musashi back after harbiter lul

[jagged crag]

JB comes back after Harbiter?
Huh, thought she'd be a keep

[molten dew]

no

[sonic latch]

No no more jb for you

Ulrich just happens to be better then Musashi anti he in this case

Otherwise nj Musashi nj is main bb comp

[jagged crag]

NJ Musashi NJ?

Is Ulrich getting swapped to the Richelieu fleet since she's good at anti light?

[sonic latch]

Your main bb fleet equipping he will do like 80% of the damage

[sonic latch]

This comp is only used for current harbiter, next month is a different strat

You want to run something like fleet 3 for your main bb fleet next month

[jagged crag]

Aw, I don't have Plymouth or Brest

[loud hamlet]

holy shit you make me jealous LMFAO

well at least i got it this month ****

[sonic latch]

Just run a tank and offtank

Musashi nj vanguard SanFran Helena Drake

[jagged crag]

So this fleet is for next month's Harbiter

[sonic latch]

Yeah

[sonic latch]

No fdg?

[sonic latch]

I onshotted harbiter with a single fleet his month

[sonic latch]

Rip

[jagged crag]

yea 😦

[loud hamlet]

😐 that makes me very sad

[sonic latch]

Howe UVH warspite then I guess for 2nd fleet

[low juniper]

Don't worry I'm a new player and I didn't oneshot it

So u can feel better

[sonic latch]

I’m a lvl 20, we are new player buddies

[low juniper]

Says the guy who oneshot harbiter

[sonic latch]

I had to manual, I’m still a new player

[jagged crag]

So the summary of changes I'm making for this Harbiter are gonna be:

NJ/Vang/UVH/Agir/Aurora/Helena
Howe/Musashi*/Warspite/SanFran/JDA/AnShan

UvH has the Triple 406mm Mk7 and Table

[loud hamlet]

idk man he says hes a new player... very convincing argument

[low juniper]

True can't doubt that

[sonic latch]

Howe Musashi warspite

[low juniper]

I'm also new so it makes sense

You can't have double UvH btw

[sonic latch]

Huh curious why you guys recommend uvh over Musashi for main bb fleet

[jagged crag]

What do you mean? You didn't see anything

[low juniper]

Probably just spread of op ships ig

[sonic latch]

[low juniper]

Not everyone can oneshot harbiter

[sonic latch]

First time tho, Musashi is broken

[jagged crag]

NJ/Vang/UVH/Agir/Aurora/Helena
Howe/Musashi/Warspite/SanFran/JDA/AnShan

final then
oh, and helena with the sg radar right

[low juniper]

Helena with SG ye

[sonic latch]

Jda offtank instead of Anshan

[jagged crag]

Howe/Musashi/Warspite/Sanfran/AnShan/JDA

howe's flag correct?

[sonic latch]

Carrier fleet with rocket remember

[sonic latch]

Musashi wants it

[jagged crag]

Musashi/Howe/Warspite/SanFran/AnShan/JDA

CVs with the BF-109G

[sonic latch]

Make sure your ark timing it right

[jagged crag]

Who gets Tenrai? If I'm using it?

[low juniper]

Enty

[sonic latch]

Your cv setup should look like this

[sonic latch]

You will prob need beacon

Unless you have maxed out cv rld

[jagged crag]

beacon? (homing beacon, gotcha*)

oh

[low juniper]

Nah can do 4 with like 10 RLD

[sonic latch]

Maybe with saiun but ryu prob not

[low juniper]

With Ryuu and cat

[sonic latch]

Oh well make sure Ark is synced

Make her faster and you should be fine, although avp performs much better against lights with speed set 0

[jagged crag]

o-okay...

[sonic latch]

Have you synced Ark?

https://thebombzen.moe/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[jagged crag]

how do i use this again

[sonic latch]

Pick the ship ,Plug in reload , switch the planes

Look all the way to the bottom

Time is self explanatory

And then pick a dive bomber that will make Ark as close to other ship as possible and faster

[sonic latch]

What is your fleet tech

Also helldiver ain’t gonna cut it

Too slow

[jagged crag]

i just press tech for that on the info screen right?

and oh.

[sonic latch]

Yeahhhh run beacon on all 3 lmao

Bonus rld stat you put 9

What are your dive bomber choices?

[jagged crag]

do i need to craft something?

[sonic latch]

Huh I forgot the 3rd plane

Plug that into the calculator

[jagged crag]

Suisei

[sonic latch]

That might work

[sonic latch]

Okay now input enterprise

[jagged crag]

with a homing beacon equipped right

[sonic latch]

Yep

She is def gonna need homing

[sonic latch]

Now nano

[sonic latch]

Jfc that is a slow nano

U have saiun torpedo bomber?

[sonic latch]

Put that into calc

[jagged crag]

i have two, but i think i can craft more?

[sonic latch]

Nah no need

[prisma skiff]

why saiun kai

[sonic latch]

That shinano was too slow

[prisma skiff]

her shinano not full lb?

[sonic latch]

Saiun does simlilar damage but much faster

[prisma skiff]

oh lack of fleet tech cv rld?

[sonic latch]

It is but 24 sec is quite bad

Saiun is perfect looking at time

23.35 23.4 23.6/ Ark Nano Enterprise

[prisma skiff]

umm yeah not good

[sonic latch]

Yeah use saiun instead of rhyu

[prisma skiff]

once youve farm a good amount of rld tech in fleet tech replace it with junkers for now yeah saiun kai

[jagged crag]

which faction increases cv rld?

[sonic latch]

Its ships in general

[prisma skiff]

you can search fleet tech in azur wiki

[jagged crag]

oh, so then i just upgrade all of these then?

or wait, nvm, ships in general

[prisma skiff]

and it will show list of ships that has certain stats at 120

[sonic latch]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

Sort with cv and then rld

[sonic latch]

Funny enough due to avp stupidly tight sync , current meta plane is saiun on nano

[prisma skiff]

ye if not oathed need saiun

[sonic latch]

Oathed too

[prisma skiff]

if haku shinano oathed then avp will be 2nd to air strike which is what we need to accomplish to sync her movement stop very well

oh nvm need avp also oathed

if not oathed then haku and shinano also not need to be oath cuz yeah it will messed up the timing lol

[sonic latch]

If it’s a non oathed avp with nano then you need junkers

Its a extremly annoying balancing problem

Its less of a pain if all 3 ships are non oathed

[prisma skiff]

my prob with saiun is it deal less dmg to junkers cuz it has 2x only sakura

[sonic latch]

Saiun only does a very small percentage worse

Small enough timing is more important

[loud hamlet]

ayo i left for like 10 mins where did the convo go

[prisma skiff]

and also my saiun not +13 so yeah ill rath just use junkers +13

[prisma skiff]

airplane recommendation

[loud hamlet]

i see i see

[jagged crag]

(idk how 🫠 )

[prisma skiff]

@sonic latch he needs help

[jagged crag]

wait nvm

[loud hamlet]

you can also go on the al wiki and manually search it

[prisma skiff]

i dunno to sort also lol

[jagged crag]

like this?

[loud hamlet]

thats what i do but its a bigger hassle

[sonic latch]

Yep all those ships have carrier reload at lvl 120

[jagged crag]

🫠 that's a lot of xp...

[sonic latch]

Do be warn Elbe and Weser are cvl rld only

[jagged crag]

so not worth the time to level over others?

[sonic latch]

Yep

[loud hamlet]

u can maximize xp usage by doing the ships with their respective faction pr ships (like doing chiyoda and soryuu for like hakuryuu exp)

etc

[sonic latch]

Fleet tech is a endgame player thing to do

[jagged crag]

Okay
And so what I got from all of this:
NJ/Vang/UVH/Agir/Aurora/Helena
Musashi/Howe/Warspite/SanFran/JDA/AnShan

UvH with Triple 406mm MK7 and Table
CVs with BF-109G
CVs with Homing Beacon

[loud hamlet]

my dumbass didnt do like half the pr ships LMFAO

[sonic latch]

Perfect

You can come back next month to fix your fleet again

[loud hamlet]

can u show me ur hakuryuu setups my brain smol when it comes to cvs 👉 👈

[sonic latch]

Same as nano, they literally have same reload

[jagged crag]

And there's no order in how I attack the Harbiter?
I usually* just do the Howe Fleet, then Nano fleet, then NJ fleet

[loud hamlet]

🐒 🐒 🐒 monkey brain didnt check stats

ty]

[sonic latch]

Meh that idk

[jagged crag]

Oh, okay!
I'll be fine with these fleets if I auto it too, yea?

[sonic latch]

I suggest manual your bbs

You will need the extra punch

[jagged crag]

Okay Thank you Grey, and everyone for helping me make the fleets
Gonna deploy them and see how it goes!

Wish me luck

[sonic latch]

Use your subs

[jagged crag]

Oh yea, my subs

...

[sonic latch]

Yeahhhh you prob don’t have the best fleet lul

I’m terrible with sub comps as I only know the meta setup , you gotta ask someone else

[jagged crag]

i mean, at least they have this...?
that's what i see on the ECTL at least

But ye

[sonic latch]

Good enough

If you have Leonardo she is amazing

[jagged crag]

i do!

[low juniper]

Vinki replace 410

[jagged crag]

okayyy

oh yea

i wanted to ask too
the 4th anni invitation has her

i just use vinki until 96 gets leveled?

[sonic latch]

Yeh

[low juniper]

Yeh

96/81/37 or 96/81/Vinci are about same dmg so it's fine either way

[jagged crag]

Alright, tankyu!

[sonic latch]

Gonna be a real pain swapping them on Tuesday

[jagged crag]

oh yea, this is fine for musashi?
should i make more hsfrc's for them to replace their black shells

[sonic latch]

Gonna be fine

Hsfcr is only for syncing with Helena

You are gonna need a Musashi with izumo gun next month but that is a whole nothet thing

[jagged crag]

izumo gun is...

oh, this?

[sonic latch]

Yeah real easy to craft

[jagged crag]

okee I'm able to make at most 4 so I think I'm ok

[jagged crag]

welp

i got it down to x10...

[molten dew]

im honestly stumped how those fleets can't

did you reroll helena

[jagged crag]

probably what i'm doing 🫠

[molten dew]

quit the battle if you're not doing as much damage with that fleet as you expect

[jagged crag]

oh wait, did we talk about what to change for that fleet with volga and perseus?
i only remember us talking about the cv, nj, and howe fleet

[molten dew]

you haven't redeployed the fleets yet?

[jagged crag]

i did

just not fleet 1 cuz i dont think we talked about who to replace

tho even then, u guys did say u one/two fleet'd harbiter with similar fleets*, so it's probably me

u still ok with helping? 🫠
it's this fleet i'm changing
https://imgur.com/a/RBB6uLx

[molten dew]

who's occupied in other fleets

[simple inlet]

this one @molten dew ?

[molten dew]

screenshot your current fleets i mean

ok

[molten dew]

so use
Richelieu RepulseM X Drake Swiftsure Saint

Centaur?
JeanBart if you manual?

[jagged crag]

with the nj fleet
what times am i firing at?
1:11
0:51
0:31?
are those the right times where sg helena has her debuff up?

[molten dew]

Richelieu RepulseM JeanB Heinrich Swiftsure Saint

[jagged crag]

i manualled all my fleets

[molten dew]

1:13, 0:53, 0:33, 0:13

[molten dew]

this

[jagged crag]

so those are the times that i fire
i don't fire before that
i only fire during the 10 seconds after those times, right

[molten dew]

yes, start firing at 0:53

preferably finish firing before 0:48

as early as possible, starting at 0:53

[jagged crag]

oh so i don't fire at 1:13, ok

[molten dew]

at 1:13 is ok

as soon as it ticks from 1:14 to 1:13, you can fire at will.
Even earlier, but not going to confuse you more