#13-2 to 14 fleet help

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junior pasture
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need help for fleet build for all of 13 and 14

flint hound
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Mob
Vanguard/uni/indep or indom
Roon/belfast/mainz

Boss
Musashi/shinano/enty
Agir/yuudachi/sandy

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Thats for W13

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@junior pasture

junior pasture
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Doesn't mob need some heavy AA?

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I actually had sandy in mob apparently

alpine jolt
junior pasture
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do i just save the strike until planes pass?

flint hound
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Look at uni/indep/indom and belfast

junior pasture
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or how does CV aa work?

flint hound
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Belfast actually has decent to good AA

junior pasture
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If I can go auto i usually do all the time

alpine jolt
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100% efficiency and less AA than any of the Clevelands

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who are not known for being AA carries

flint hound
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I mean it's decent for a ship who's not an aa carry

junior pasture
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should i be using like bellona for more aa?

flint hound
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Like do u see any other better options there other than belfast

alpine jolt
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that's true

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not many ships high enough level

flint hound
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Ur bellona is lv 99

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Belfast isnt as bad as u guys think lol

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She's still an ok ship

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I still use her to this day

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U can try clearing w13 first

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For W14 the comps would be a lil different

alpine jolt
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honestly i did W13 mobbing with Washington, Indep, Percy and 3 clevelands

flint hound
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U can try raising jervis for extra off tank or even tank

alpine jolt
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though by the time i was doing W13 most of the ships i was using were 125

junior pasture
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rn rasing noshiro

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but im out of golds

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should i be good with that fleet for all of 13?

flint hound
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W13 is just full of planes

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Use more CVs + AA oriented ships would make it ez

junior pasture
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what is 14

alpine jolt
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hell

flint hound
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And i'd say raising jervis would be better than noshiro on W14

junior pasture
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i want to farm exp and gold in 13 which is best?

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exp farming jervis?

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on 14?

flint hound
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No

alpine jolt
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11-1 is the best XP to oil rate

flint hound
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Raise ur jervis til 115-120 so u can use her on W14

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She could tank W14 mob

junior pasture
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what about noshiro?

flint hound
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Put her on hold

junior pasture
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what makes noshiro not good?

flint hound
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Also just farm 12-4

junior pasture
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im already farming 13-1 so far

flint hound
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Then it's better

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What's ur current stage

junior pasture
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13-1

alpine jolt
junior pasture
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then i can just use aya and yuudachi right?

alpine jolt
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And because she is mostly torp focused you need good torps if you are going auto

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So you need good magnetics

junior pasture
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i got gold quads

alpine jolt
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3 of them?

junior pasture
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yes and can craft lots of more

alpine jolt
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Then you would be fine

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Although nosh, Aya and Yuudachi would have practically zero AA

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So horrible for W13

junior pasture
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but fine for 14?

alpine jolt
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And none of them are particularly tanky iirc

junior pasture
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I can possibly farm on safe though right?

flint hound
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There's no point in using noshiro in both W13 and 14

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Unless ur out of options

junior pasture
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is she that bad?

flint hound
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She isnt bad

alpine jolt
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Overshadowed by better picks

flint hound
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Her utility is mostly being an eva tank and torper

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But none of them matter in those worlds

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Unless ur using shima level torper to breeze thru mobs

junior pasture
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What matters to make her a T0?

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What about Jervis makes her good again?

flint hound
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I mean she's fine to use, not saying she cant be used there, but u want faster clear so we recommend something better

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Jervis is a DD and DD is great in W14

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  • she has a zombie skill
junior pasture
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is 14 sub heavy?

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that's why DDs are great?

flint hound
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Only 14-3 and 14-4

alpine jolt
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DDs are detected the slowest and have really high EVA

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So stray shots aren’t as likely to do massive damage

junior pasture
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should yuudachi or sandy be in the middle there?

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yuuudachi as offtank because of eva right?

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should my vanny have ap or he gun?

alpine jolt
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Is vanny mob fleet?

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If so, I would use HE

junior pasture
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it's suggested by drac up there

alpine jolt
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For W13 bosses you should use AP BB guns

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Mobbing is generally HE

junior pasture
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should i be running beacon for mob?

alpine jolt
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The aux for CVs?

junior pasture
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4/5 of my pults are already on my boss fleet

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i got 1 pult and 1 lvl 6 feather

alpine jolt
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Honestly, it sounds like you aren’t quite equipped for W13

junior pasture
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gold pult

alpine jolt
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What AA guns are you using on everyone

junior pasture
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for boss, stagg on musashi, haze for yuudachi, twin 90 for agir, and roomba for sandy

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staag on vanguard

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haze for unicorn and indep

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belfast 90mm, mainz 90mm, roon bofors

alpine jolt
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That’s probably fine?

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Honestly like you can just attempt to do it

junior pasture
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here ill post my gear list

alpine jolt
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The only thing it would cost is oil

junior pasture
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there's my gear list

alpine jolt
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If you want slightly more AA throw the French torp bomber on uni

junior pasture
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I already plan to anyways

alpine jolt
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It’s one of two torp planes with passive intercept

junior pasture
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i haven't equipped stuff on yet

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it's better than barracuda so it's obvious choice

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who should wyvern be on

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unicorn or indep

alpine jolt
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Actually wait you do have a wyvern

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Indep wants USN so not her

junior pasture
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i heard wyvern is better even with the usn buff

alpine jolt
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Indep only gets the USN buff from using USN gear

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Wyvern is British

junior pasture
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yea but that wyvern is so op that it doesnt matter

alpine jolt
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Honestly I don’t know

junior pasture
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is what i was told

alpine jolt
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I don’t have a wyvern, couldn’t tell you

junior pasture
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i mean i can go and craft a skypirate right away and even 10 it right away

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and put that on indep and put the wvyn on uni

alpine jolt
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Wyvern is probably better in W13 because of AA

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But then again unicorn wouldn’t be nerfed by taking it

junior pasture
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she has preload with 3x135

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indep has no preload but is super fast with 4x150

quaint tendon
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ok

junior pasture
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i can pretty much craft anything gold atm

quaint tendon
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from the top

junior pasture
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if missing or needed

quaint tendon
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or where

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am i starting

junior pasture
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13-2 - 13-4 fleet

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dock is up top

quaint tendon
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kishcjdwbdc

junior pasture
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and my gear is just there

quaint tendon
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W13 was done before unikai and before wyvern bruguets

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basic fleet building or trivialize it with these bonuses

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that aside, I go look

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were your fleets already Indomitable Indepkai Unikai
Musashi Vanny Shinano?

quaint tendon
junior pasture
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for 13-1?

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I cleared 13-1 with a musashi, shinano, vanguard, agir, sandy, mainz boss fleet

quaint tendon
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Indomitable Indepkai Unikai Mainz Laffey Z46
Musashi Vanny Shinano Roon Helena Sandy

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Agir is like

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Heavy armor against Avi dmg bosses

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who have 80/110/130 mods

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i dont recommend her very strongly

junior pasture
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l/m/h?

quaint tendon
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ya

junior pasture
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i dont know what have what mods

quaint tendon
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w13 is high avi dmg bosses

junior pasture
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i've been using agir because she tankiest ship

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i dont know anything or heard anything about mod

quaint tendon
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cos you haven't had it explained before?

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meh

junior pasture
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yea

quaint tendon
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probably just applies to vh

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maybe agir can just suck it up

flint hound
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Agir can

quaint tendon
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cos non-full dev agir is still missing alot of hp

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and I safed my w13 nodes already

flint hound
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Yea only problem is that

quaint tendon
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roon is a classic

junior pasture
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is it a problem if my mainz is fs3

quaint tendon
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for w14 yes, for w13 no

junior pasture
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im close to dev 25 for agir but i went to focus on pr3 to finish up mainz fs

quaint tendon
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id recommend raising some other options at that point

junior pasture
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what ships

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?

quaint tendon
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i just picked from leveled ships

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i mean

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let me finish showering

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and then i make w14 fleet

junior pasture
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im busy atm raising sandy, war, indom, enty, essex, and yuudachi to 120

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by farming 13-1 for the last several days

flint hound
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I mean u can take ur time to level those ships while getting coins

junior pasture
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for around a week actually

flint hound
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Those ships are ez to max anw

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After maxing them, u can try going for some other ships

quaint tendon
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essex is another opsi option i guess

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i wouldnt really slot her anymore

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she wont change your clears from failure to success at this point

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good tech pts tho

quaint tendon
# junior pasture what ships

For W14:
Musashi Shinano Unikai Jervis Wakatsuki Suzutsuki
Vanny Indepkai Enterprise Agir Yuudachi Mainz
I think you'll have a high reset rate on boss tho

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vanny and musashi need to be on opposing fleets

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you dont have another flag viable ship

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the state of your subs is also weak

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bleh

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if you manual then it's a bit more trivial

quaint tendon
# junior pasture

W13:
Indomitable Indepkai Unikai Mainz Laffey Z46
Musashi Vanny Shinano Roon Helena Sandy
W14:
Musashi Indepkai Unikai Jervis Wakatsuki Suzutsuki
Vanny Shinano Enterprise Agir Yuudachi Mainz

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I did intend to edit indepkai into mob fleet

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cos boss fleet looks too RNG

flint hound
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Yea i did boss with shin enty, and i'd prefer indep on mob instead

quaint tendon
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tbh, it was before i used musa mob

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so shin on mob and indep on boss made sense

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but i think musa is enough

flint hound
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Guys gonna have a hard time without subs lol

junior pasture
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Too rng?

quaint tendon
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as in it's bad

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and will die alot

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and you need to restart the node

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not the entire stage

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just reset the node

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usually, manually restart when auto is about to die

junior pasture
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what's bad about it?

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kii and brun are flag viable right?

quaint tendon
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W14 needs stronger ships

junior pasture
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why independence for boss?

quaint tendon
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stagger strike Cv

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and her own dmg is actually still high

junior pasture
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why are we staggering?

quaint tendon
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boss nodes spawn like three waves of three bbs each

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and your backline cannot tank a triple wave for a 20 second sync

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goal of staggering is to clear the waves smoothly

junior pasture
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but 1 airstrike isnt though to take 3 bbs though right?

quaint tendon
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But even then, I suggested against Indep

quaint tendon
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But anyways

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I swapped shinano to boss

junior pasture
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so why is 14 boss no helena sync with muashi mob?

quaint tendon
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None of your ships are durable enough for mob

quaint tendon
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Because staggering removes the bb threat better, then helena value is low

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But feel free to experiment

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that is part of game too

junior pasture
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anyone else i can train up to make my fleet better?

quaint tendon
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the ones i suggested MakinaSmug

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i dont see anyone else

junior pasture
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other notable ships i have but aren't in the shot are sirus, dido, l'indom, kazagumo

quaint tendon
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sirius and kaza are opsi-good, others no

quaint tendon
junior pasture
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that was by lvl

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here's by rarity now

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only the golds

quaint tendon
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and urs

junior pasture
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and urs

quaint tendon
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no change

flint hound
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If anything try raising some good subs

junior pasture
flint hound
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They help a lot on harder contents

junior pasture
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i dont have any other than 47

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since they're all bad according to ectl

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i do technically have the pass to get 96 but im saving it incase i roll her

quaint tendon
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well

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47 101 96 is just fine

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U tryna cope a sub roll on special during events?

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fuck that

junior pasture
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no 1 daily roll

quaint tendon
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that is definitely not worth cubes

junior pasture
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im waiting to either roll le malin or 96

quaint tendon
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96 is special pool

junior pasture
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im rolling special once daily for the daily quest

quaint tendon
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that is not worth the cubes

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def worth using the invit to save on well over 30 cubes a month

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well over, because single SR rates in perma pools is absolutely dogshit

junior pasture
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i roll the banner during events

quaint tendon
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i expect over a yearlong pullfest off just dailies before you can pull 96 off daily specials

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Event banners are usually based in heavy or special

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hence coping for a sub during banner

junior pasture
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nope, sub is just a bonus

quaint tendon
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malin is light pool

junior pasture
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I'm rolling for 81 too anyways

quaint tendon
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96 doesnt have a rateup and isnt in light pool

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none of the reasons for daily specials are there

junior pasture
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so i can just slowly build to get my sub fleet by 14

quaint tendon
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unless you have like well over 600-800 cubes

junior pasture
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562 cubes

quaint tendon
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there is a collab event and UR upcoming

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and Collabs do not have pities

junior pasture
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I'm aware I plan to stop around 350

quaint tendon
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350 is nowhere enough to secure event ships YorkBruh

junior pasture
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350 left

quaint tendon
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Subs also arent that high value to invest this many cubes

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without some extra reward

junior pasture
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Aren't they needed for 14 though?

quaint tendon
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usually event banner ships

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14 does not need optimal subs at all

junior pasture
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Yea that's why I dont roll more than once

quaint tendon
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101 is definitely plenty enough flr that

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101 47 96 is very plenty

junior pasture
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Don't you want wolfpack buff though?

quaint tendon
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that's all IB

junior pasture
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im still timelocked by gold bulins

quaint tendon
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That's not a part of wasting cubes on special without rateup tho DunktsukiStare

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it's wishing well-less even

junior pasture
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roll lights for daily?

quaint tendon
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yes

quaint tendon
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but i def recommend pulling 96 from invitation and dropping daily specials

flint hound
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Go get u96 from the invitation

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If u want u81 just wait for WW

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Or cope for a spook during event banners

junior pasture
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i just use 101

flint hound
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Sure if u dont mind raising more subs later on

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Tho archerfish prolly would come back soon

quaint tendon
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pls

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reruns are just guesses

flint hound
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Doesnt change the fact that they're going to return anw

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And i was just saying that as an idea

junior pasture
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where should i exp farm?

quaint tendon
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planning around an unreliable timegate is unreliable

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it's just unreliable advice to plan anything around it

quaint tendon
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maybe you'll want 12-1 for your weaker ships

junior pasture
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lvl 100s too low on safe?

quaint tendon
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not with unikai

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should be fine

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wakat and suzut combo is better than laffey z46 100% of the time

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so if you're leveling, might as well start that since 46 and laffey are alrdy 120

junior pasture
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so wakat suzu who else?

junior pasture
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jervis, wakat, suzu

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ok

quaint tendon
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yeah

junior pasture
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Should i worry about anyone else?

quaint tendon
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yuudachi right?

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Im not tracking your levels too tightly

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dont necesarily need 125s, but you need minimum 120s when you're doing w14

junior pasture
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i have 0 bulins so it'll be a while before i start grinding jervis

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unless i buy the 70 pack just for the bulins

quaint tendon
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na

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commit slave to PvP at most

flint hound
# quaint tendon planning around an unreliable timegate is unreliable

in the first place when u plan something, u would most likely not follow thru 100%, that's why we find some variables to make substitute plans, archerfish is that other variable, she is another option and again timegate doesnt mean they wont rerun. I dont think they will take another 2 years to rerun lol

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Idk why u're so opposed to that

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It was more like a reminder than anything tbh

quaint tendon
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cos unreliable advice borders on useless

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same vein as going to youtube and fishing for a good guide from a 50/50 youtuber

flint hound
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You know they're going to come, and u still think it's unreliable ?

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Lol ig you do you

quaint tendon
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You know that they have jank ass rerun schedule, with unknown amount of mixed events, and you want to even try to plan around that? that is unreliable

flint hound
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..

quaint tendon
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when they announce it is when it will be reliable

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i wont recommend planning raising a ship around a rerun with unannounced date

flint hound
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In the first place, guys have an option to get u96 from the invitation, and he got all the ships needed, i told him to get u81 from either WW or spook from event.. he told me he'd just stick with u101, and i told him archerfish will be available soon too as an option if he's willing to raise better subs

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Where did i plan around archerfish as my main focus pls tell me

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This is just a point i made so he has an idea of what's coming

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And u had to come and said it's unreliable like what's even the problem there lmao

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Alright i'd rather just put this down and go do my things lol

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This is a pointless debate

quaint tendon
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Go do it and stop recommending unscheduled advice

flint hound
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.. ig u just dont read

quaint tendon
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I read it, but even the suggestion of an alt that isnt guaranteed is poor advice

flint hound
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Or u didnt even bother to understand my point

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Cuz my pov u're trying to put me on the wrong side here lol