#13-2 to 14 fleet help
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Mob
Vanguard/uni/indep or indom
Roon/belfast/mainz
Boss
Musashi/shinano/enty
Agir/yuudachi/sandy
Thats for W13
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Indep
do i just save the strike until planes pass?
Look at uni/indep/indom and belfast
or how does CV aa work?
Belfast actually has decent to good AA
If I can go auto i usually do all the time
not really...
100% efficiency and less AA than any of the Clevelands
who are not known for being AA carries
I mean it's decent for a ship who's not an aa carry
should i be using like bellona for more aa?
Like do u see any other better options there other than belfast
Ur bellona is lv 99
Belfast isnt as bad as u guys think lol
She's still an ok ship
I still use her to this day
U can try clearing w13 first
For W14 the comps would be a lil different
honestly i did W13 mobbing with Washington, Indep, Percy and 3 clevelands
U can try raising jervis for extra off tank or even tank
though by the time i was doing W13 most of the ships i was using were 125
rn rasing noshiro
but im out of golds
should i be good with that fleet for all of 13?
what is 14
hell
And i'd say raising jervis would be better than noshiro on W14
No
11-1 is the best XP to oil rate
what about noshiro?
Put her on hold
what makes noshiro not good?
Also just farm 12-4
im already farming 13-1 so far
13-1
She needs a torp heavy vanguard for most value
then i can just use aya and yuudachi right?
And because she is mostly torp focused you need good torps if you are going auto
So you need good magnetics
i got gold quads
3 of them?
yes and can craft lots of more
Then you would be fine
Although nosh, Aya and Yuudachi would have practically zero AA
So horrible for W13
but fine for 14?
And none of them are particularly tanky iirc
I can possibly farm on safe though right?
is she that bad?
She isnt bad
Overshadowed by better picks
Her utility is mostly being an eva tank and torper
But none of them matter in those worlds
Unless ur using shima level torper to breeze thru mobs
I mean she's fine to use, not saying she cant be used there, but u want faster clear so we recommend something better
Jervis is a DD and DD is great in W14
- she has a zombie skill
Only 14-3 and 14-4
Everything does a ton of damage and concealment is a thing
DDs are detected the slowest and have really high EVA
So stray shots aren’t as likely to do massive damage
should yuudachi or sandy be in the middle there?
yuuudachi as offtank because of eva right?
should my vanny have ap or he gun?
it's suggested by drac up there
should i be running beacon for mob?
The aux for CVs?
Honestly, it sounds like you aren’t quite equipped for W13
gold pult
What AA guns are you using on everyone
for boss, stagg on musashi, haze for yuudachi, twin 90 for agir, and roomba for sandy
staag on vanguard
haze for unicorn and indep
belfast 90mm, mainz 90mm, roon bofors
here ill post my gear list
The only thing it would cost is oil
If you want slightly more AA throw the French torp bomber on uni
I already plan to anyways
It’s one of two torp planes with passive intercept
i haven't equipped stuff on yet
it's better than barracuda so it's obvious choice
who should wyvern be on
unicorn or indep
i heard wyvern is better even with the usn buff
yea but that wyvern is so op that it doesnt matter
Honestly I don’t know
i mean i can go and craft a skypirate right away and even 10 it right away
and put that on indep and put the wvyn on uni
Wyvern is probably better in W13 because of AA
But then again unicorn wouldn’t be nerfed by taking it
ok
i can pretty much craft anything gold atm
from the top
if missing or needed
kishcjdwbdc
and my gear is just there
W13 was done before unikai and before wyvern bruguets
basic fleet building or trivialize it with these bonuses
that aside, I go look
were your fleets already Indomitable Indepkai Unikai
Musashi Vanny Shinano?
lookback button
for 13-1?
I cleared 13-1 with a musashi, shinano, vanguard, agir, sandy, mainz boss fleet
Indomitable Indepkai Unikai Mainz Laffey Z46
Musashi Vanny Shinano Roon Helena Sandy
Agir is like
Heavy armor against Avi dmg bosses
who have 80/110/130 mods
i dont recommend her very strongly
l/m/h?
ya
i dont know what have what mods
w13 is high avi dmg bosses
i've been using agir because she tankiest ship
i dont know anything or heard anything about mod
yea
Agir can
cos non-full dev agir is still missing alot of hp
and I safed my w13 nodes already
Yea only problem is that
but anyways this should clear everything in w13
roon is a classic
is it a problem if my mainz is fs3
for w14 yes, for w13 no
im close to dev 25 for agir but i went to focus on pr3 to finish up mainz fs
id recommend raising some other options at that point
i just picked from leveled ships
i mean
let me finish showering
and then i make w14 fleet
im busy atm raising sandy, war, indom, enty, essex, and yuudachi to 120
by farming 13-1 for the last several days
I mean u can take ur time to level those ships while getting coins
for around a week actually
Those ships are ez to max anw
After maxing them, u can try going for some other ships
essex is another opsi option i guess
i wouldnt really slot her anymore
she wont change your clears from failure to success at this point
good tech pts tho
For W14:
Musashi Shinano Unikai Jervis Wakatsuki Suzutsuki
Vanny Indepkai Enterprise Agir Yuudachi Mainz
I think you'll have a high reset rate on boss tho
vanny and musashi need to be on opposing fleets
you dont have another flag viable ship
the state of your subs is also weak
bleh
if you manual then it's a bit more trivial
W13:
Indomitable Indepkai Unikai Mainz Laffey Z46
Musashi Vanny Shinano Roon Helena Sandy
W14:
Musashi Indepkai Unikai Jervis Wakatsuki Suzutsuki
Vanny Shinano Enterprise Agir Yuudachi Mainz
I did intend to edit indepkai into mob fleet
cos boss fleet looks too RNG
Yea i did boss with shin enty, and i'd prefer indep on mob instead
tbh, it was before i used musa mob
so shin on mob and indep on boss made sense
but i think musa is enough
Guys gonna have a hard time without subs lol
Too rng?
as in it's bad
and will die alot
and you need to restart the node
not the entire stage
just reset the node
usually, manually restart when auto is about to die
Not at all no
W14 needs stronger ships
why independence for boss?
why are we staggering?
boss nodes spawn like three waves of three bbs each
and your backline cannot tank a triple wave for a 20 second sync
goal of staggering is to clear the waves smoothly
but 1 airstrike isnt though to take 3 bbs though right?
But even then, I suggested against Indep
enty and shinano could, indep might kill 1 and a half
But anyways
I swapped shinano to boss
See here
so why is 14 boss no helena sync with muashi mob?
None of your ships are durable enough for mob
No helena sync is based on this
Because staggering removes the bb threat better, then helena value is low
But feel free to experiment
that is part of game too
anyone else i can train up to make my fleet better?
other notable ships i have but aren't in the shot are sirus, dido, l'indom, kazagumo
sirius and kaza are opsi-good, others no
but pls sort by rarity and dont hide any ships
and urs
no change
If anything try raising some good subs
I have 693 t1 exp to use any change ?
They help a lot on harder contents
i dont have any other than 47
since they're all bad according to ectl
i do technically have the pass to get 96 but im saving it incase i roll her
well
47 101 96 is just fine
U tryna cope a sub roll on special during events?
fuck that
no 1 daily roll
that is definitely not worth cubes
im waiting to either roll le malin or 96
96 is special pool
im rolling special once daily for the daily quest
that is not worth the cubes
def worth using the invit to save on well over 30 cubes a month
well over, because single SR rates in perma pools is absolutely dogshit
i dont that during events
i roll the banner during events
i expect over a yearlong pullfest off just dailies before you can pull 96 off daily specials
Event banners are usually based in heavy or special
hence coping for a sub during banner
nope, sub is just a bonus
malin is light pool
I'm rolling for 81 too anyways
96 doesnt have a rateup and isnt in light pool
none of the reasons for daily specials are there
so i can just slowly build to get my sub fleet by 14
unless you have like well over 600-800 cubes
562 cubes
I'm aware I plan to stop around 350
350 is nowhere enough to secure event ships 
350 left
Subs also arent that high value to invest this many cubes
without some extra reward
Aren't they needed for 14 though?
Yea that's why I dont roll more than once
Don't you want wolfpack buff though?
that's all IB
im still timelocked by gold bulins
That's not a part of wasting cubes on special without rateup tho 
it's wishing well-less even
roll lights for daily?
yes
Reposting so that the point of the thread isnt lost 
but i def recommend pulling 96 from invitation and dropping daily specials
If u want to build up cubes do 1 light daily
Go get u96 from the invitation
If u want u81 just wait for WW
Or cope for a spook during event banners
i just use 101
Sure if u dont mind raising more subs later on
Tho archerfish prolly would come back soon
Doesnt change the fact that they're going to return anw
And i was just saying that as an idea
where should i exp farm?
planning around an unreliable timegate is unreliable
it's just unreliable advice to plan anything around it
13-1 is just gine
maybe you'll want 12-1 for your weaker ships
lvl 100s too low on safe?
not with unikai
should be fine
wakat and suzut combo is better than laffey z46 100% of the time
so if you're leveling, might as well start that since 46 and laffey are alrdy 120
so wakat suzu who else?
ships here
yeah
Should i worry about anyone else?
yuudachi right?
Im not tracking your levels too tightly
dont necesarily need 125s, but you need minimum 120s when you're doing w14
i have 0 bulins so it'll be a while before i start grinding jervis
unless i buy the 70 pack just for the bulins
in the first place when u plan something, u would most likely not follow thru 100%, that's why we find some variables to make substitute plans, archerfish is that other variable, she is another option and again timegate doesnt mean they wont rerun. I dont think they will take another 2 years to rerun lol
Idk why u're so opposed to that
It was more like a reminder than anything tbh
cos unreliable advice borders on useless
same vein as going to youtube and fishing for a good guide from a 50/50 youtuber
You know they're going to come, and u still think it's unreliable ?
Lol ig you do you
You know that they have jank ass rerun schedule, with unknown amount of mixed events, and you want to even try to plan around that? that is unreliable
..
when they announce it is when it will be reliable
i wont recommend planning raising a ship around a rerun with unannounced date
In the first place, guys have an option to get u96 from the invitation, and he got all the ships needed, i told him to get u81 from either WW or spook from event.. he told me he'd just stick with u101, and i told him archerfish will be available soon too as an option if he's willing to raise better subs
Where did i plan around archerfish as my main focus pls tell me
This is just a point i made so he has an idea of what's coming
And u had to come and said it's unreliable like what's even the problem there lmao
Alright i'd rather just put this down and go do my things lol
This is a pointless debate
Go do it and stop recommending unscheduled advice
.. ig u just dont read
I read it, but even the suggestion of an alt that isnt guaranteed is poor advice

