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vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 4:52 AM

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Main units.

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indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:54 AM

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Indom, Enty, Ark, UvH, Uni, Howe are all solid. What was the question again?

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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Well, originally I was trying to figure out which BB's to give AP guns to so I can pick good ships for a META fight.

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But someone linked a wiki of the list of barrages, so I was using that.

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Then someone else asked me to show my dock.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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What dev level is FdG?

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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23

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I'm focusing PR3 research atm so she's gonna stay 23 for a while I think.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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If you're able to max limit break her I'd go Musashi/UvH/Howe I think

royal hinge Oct 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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Where are your tanks?

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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I only linked the main fleet.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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This is just a screenshot of main fleet units

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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once sushi is done, sushi, uvh and ark would be good for meta

royal hinge Oct 3, 2022, 4:57 AM

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MurmWat

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 4:57 AM

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Musashi flag, UvH off flag?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:57 AM

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fallow idol once sushi is done, sushi, uvh and ark would be good for meta

He doesn't have Vanguard so was asking for alternatives. And yeah, Ark could work too, but I don't know if she's too slow

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You'd likely be gimping your damage with her too much, since she'd need to have fast TBs

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 4:58 AM

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he most probably might not have good TBs

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 4:58 AM

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I'm using Ryuuseis on Ark

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 4:58 AM

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good

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:59 AM

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Yeah, but for her to be effective with Musashi and UvH she'd have to have a sub-20 second launch time, and I don't know if that's realistic

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 4:59 AM

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but show vanguard also

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 4:59 AM

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Why?

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 4:59 AM

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indigo steeple Why?

so that we can see his tanks

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Again, we aren't even discussing vanguards right now, so why?

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Would a homing beacon help? I noticed she's launching a few seconds after Helena's scan.

hollow abyss Oct 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Ehhssex

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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indigo steeple Yeah, but for her to be effective with Musashi and UvH she'd have to have a sub-...

that is true, but ark does reliable damage on her own

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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indigo steeple Again, we aren't even discussing vanguards right now, so why?

he can have his fleet reviewed now rather than bits and pieces

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:01 AM

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21s cooldown with double Junkers and Suisei Model 12 on Ark, I think that's just too slow

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:02 AM

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but she syncs with helena is what allen is saying

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:02 AM

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indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:02 AM

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Junkers are a slight bit faster than Ryusei, so you'd need double Saiun Kai, and that still only brings her down to just over 20s

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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If it matters, my fleet tech is only level 3.

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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vapid kite

you don't have good tanks

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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Yup.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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She synchs, but the only reason you'd take Ark is to have her go first and slow the enemy so your BBs hit

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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I have dev 30 Mainz incoming but she's a CL.

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:04 AM

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indigo steeple She synchs, but the only reason you'd take Ark is to have her go first and slow ...

that would help

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:04 AM

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Roon or Adalbert are decent

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:04 AM

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indigo steeple Roon or Adalbert are decent

roon has been outclassed, hasn't she?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:04 AM

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fallow idol that would help

From what he has, those are the 2 best options

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:06 AM

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indigo steeple From what he has, those are the 2 best options

sure, I used to think roon was a good unit but now she has been powercrept

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:06 AM

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You can't just come in and say "Your unit are crap", you have to offer solutions.

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And of what he has, those are the 2 best.

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:07 AM

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but it might result in waste of investment, I have a lvl 125 roon that does nothimg

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:07 AM

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When you mentioned Saiun, is that the PR4 torp bomber?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:07 AM

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And? It's not like she's hard to dev at this point

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:07 AM

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Cool

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:07 AM

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vapid kite When you mentioned Saiun, is that the PR4 torp bomber?

no that is tenrai

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:08 AM

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Tenrai is a DB, stop giving bad info

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:08 AM

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Nakajima C6N Saiun (Model 21 Prototype)

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:08 AM

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sorry, but still investment matters

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:09 AM

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This is the one I'm taking about

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:09 AM

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Yup, I think that's the one. It shows up on the wiki.

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:09 AM

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yes, I didn't seem to read torp

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:10 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nakajima_C6N_Saiun_(Model_21_Prototype)

Azur Lane Wiki

Nakajima C6N Saiun (Model 21 Prototype)

Sakura Empire Torpedo Bomber

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:10 AM

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EN tends to shorten or change the name of things for some reason.

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:11 AM

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I'll be switching to PR4 research once I dev 30 Mainz.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:11 AM

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You might have to experiment with timings, and make sure to finish Ark's retro if you haven't.

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:11 AM

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Yup, Ark Kai's done.

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She's 125 too

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:11 AM

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Use this for CV timings, and there's a link at the bottom for BBs https://thebombzen.moe/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

Airstrike Cooldown Calculator

Calculate the cooldown for an airstrike in Azur Lane.

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:11 AM

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Cool, thanks

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:11 AM

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wait, mainz might be a good tank replavement

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:12 AM

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I thought tanks were CA, not CL

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:12 AM

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Adalbert is a better tank than Mainz

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Mainz does more damage, but Adalbert's a better tank

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Mainz is essentially a CA with a CL tag

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:12 AM

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Ohh

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:13 AM

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indigo steeple Mainz does more damage, but Adalbert's a better tank

so he can have a Helena and yuuda retro with maiinz because mainz might survive with good damage

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:13 AM

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Not in meta fight

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 AM

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Any good tanks in PR4?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 AM

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Anchorage and Agir

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 AM

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agir

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 AM

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Maybe I can work on Agir after Mainz?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 AM

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Agir at dev15 might be a better tank than Adalbert

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:15 AM

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indigo steeple Agir at dev15 might be a better tank than Adalbert

plus she slows and armor breaks

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:15 AM

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She's missing a bunch of damage, but she'd still have more health, heavy armor, and damage reduction

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:16 AM

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she might do less damage than her own potential but she makes up for it

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:16 AM

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15% damage reduction plus heavy armor is REALLY good.

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Slap a VH armor on her, since she's missing so much health, IMO

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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a pr4 catchup will be announced , right?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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Probably, but we don't know when

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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indigo steeple Slap a VH armor on her, since she's missing so much health, IMO

On Agir?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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Yeah

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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Okay.

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:18 AM

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indigo steeple Slap a VH armor on her, since she's missing so much health, IMO

double eva should be better, right?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:19 AM

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It's hard to say; the health and damage reduction is probably better in meta fight than a toolbox would be, and beaver would only give her 35 eva

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:19 AM

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cosmic kicks?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:19 AM

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Which is a good amount, but I prefer to rely on survivability than dodge in meta fight

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I don't think the person you're talking to has been playing for that long

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:20 AM

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What about the improved hydraulic rudder?

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I have two of them.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:20 AM

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I'd get the beaver tag instead of the improved rudder. Washing machine and either beaver tag or VH armor would be best.

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:21 AM

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Which one's the washing machine?

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:21 AM

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the rudder

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:21 AM

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Oh

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:21 AM

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That goes on pretty much everyone except DDs, the question is what the other aux is

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:22 AM

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the rikka sword?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:22 AM

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I'd use Goldburn over the sword

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:22 AM

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that is also a good one but vh provides more hp and her damage is so low that rld might nor matter

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at dev 15

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:23 AM

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Yeah, which is why I think VH is what I'd use at low dev level. I think that's going to do more than the beaver tag would

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:24 AM

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lets go wth that, but he still needs to wait for agir

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:24 AM

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Is it still good to run double torp aux on DD's?

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:24 AM

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But that's neither here nore there; he doesn't even have Agir at the moment, so I'd gear out Adalbert, and give her washing machine and either Goldburn or Beaver Tag

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Not for meta

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:25 AM

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if he needs them urgently, roon would be better with her damage right?

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:25 AM

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Alright.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:25 AM

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It's more a "win more" aux; if they can stay alive with them, sure, but usually you use double toolbox or toolbox and Seal or some other gold aux

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:26 AM

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Oh, I'm not in a rush.

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I'm still leveling other vanguards for my OpSi fleet.

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Thanks so much, guys o/

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:27 AM

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Get Agir first, but after Agir I'd start working on Plymouth if you can. She can do quite a bit starting at dev15 as well.

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:27 AM

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Will do. I'll make the switch to PR4 on shipyard and research once Mainz is done.

indigo steeple Oct 3, 2022, 5:28 AM

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Plymouth is PR5 BTW

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:29 AM

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are you doing mainz with the pr3 catchup?

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:29 AM

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I'm not sure honestly what happened but I had 340 bp's of her.

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If I have the rainbow table, should I give that to UvH or Musashi?

fallow idol Oct 3, 2022, 5:31 AM

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musashi, but that might desync her with helna

vapid kite Oct 3, 2022, 5:31 AM

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Oh, hmm.

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