Now the time has come
#Ships for MLB
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I'll be taking notes 
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jervis, perseus, pompeo, sandy, enty, sirius, howe, cent, suzu, nagato,
impero pretty good aswell
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Now if I can I will ask is in what are those ships good at
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i only used jervis in w14 but shes an amazing mob tank
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Enty obviously for her damage, but I didn't know about Centaur or Pompeo for example
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centaur is a good fighter heavy cv, also has a backline fp/avi buff
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Oh yeah perseus
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i only used jervis in w14 but shes an amazing mob tank
A destroyer that works as a tank? 
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good for plane heavy environment
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nah no point of percy after unicorn retro
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if u read jervis skills, she has like 4 dmg reductions
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centuar is okay but not prio
fallow birch
if u read jervis skills, she has like 4 dmg reductions
Sorry but I don't read all skills of all ships, there are a ton
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and some of jervis skills only activate in main tank
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yeah what i listed isnt in order of priority
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is this really just MLB or did you want fleets with it
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I see
I will MLB them, and probably after that they will be entering some of my fleets
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jervis, perseus, pompeo, sandy, enty, sirius, howe, cent, suzu, nagato,
missed kiev
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Until they get higher level and like that
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im not sure about kiev tbh, didnt use her myself yet so i didnt mention
mainly because theres so many good dds out there
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ectl is a little hardboiled but kiev should be pretty good
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yeah
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Around the same tier?
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uhhhhhhhh
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suzutsuki aswell
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i feel like jervis is undertiered
they're contending that pompeo is also undertiered too 
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i dont even know what tier is jervis in ectl
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shes just that good i can recommend her to anyone
fallow birch
Then, as priority, I guess Jervis?
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jervis was T0 if they considered W14 a tiering point tho 
oh jervis is definitely a prio for mob tank
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what tanks do you have?
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So far as I've been hearing Jervis seems quite really necessary
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nah, not necessary
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Tanks? I use Adalbert/Portland so far
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adalbert over portkai and jervis over adalbert
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jervis should be able to tank any mob with a healer in the back i guess
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if that's mob/boss main tank listing
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I usually don't really separate that much mob and boss fleet, so far I can deal with them with no problem with what I use, but I fear that in W13 and W14 that might change 
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do u need fleet building
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Enty obviously for her damage, but I didn't know about Centaur or Pompeo for exa...
centaur is generalist for everything
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centaur, unikai, mobbing bb should be really good for a mob fleet
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4 TBs for ryusei, or go parallels and use 100% barrage for clear
not top tier in anything
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So far this is what I have more or less leveled and most MLB
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do u need fleet building
And yeah, I do think that too
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kinda hard to figure out what to MLB until i sort out opsi and campaign fleets
cuz obviously stryk recommended perseus, and she is good, but then said you'd prob use unikai right so ya
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Fleets for OpSi? So far I only use 1
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can probably use the same fleet for mobbing all the way through w14
unikai and volga is prob enough
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Volga is that good?
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more like they can cover AA, and volga is a good option for 14
but also volga is that good
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She heals only one ship at a time, right?
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but for example w14 or autoing strongholds in opsi with 1 fleet shes really good at
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and her heal isnt tied to launch time
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She heals only one ship at a time, right?
Volga heals one ship at a time yea, but its 3 heals every 20 seconds
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Seems really good
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yeah the issue is 2 of the heals are random target, so they can heal full hp stuff or submarines
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volga unikai jervis is one of the memes for w14
not meme but
a comp where jervis is immortal
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yeah im using that
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yeah the issue is 2 of the heals are random target, so they can heal full hp stu...
Oh 
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her healing pattern wouldnt make her a main healer most of the time anyways
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I guess I should finish W12 as soon as I can to start with W13 and w14
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w13 and w14 are for gems 
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unless you want gems for 3* stages
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u alrdy have w12 for heavy farming
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oh, one fleet opsi is a problem too
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Really?
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dunno what u wanna do with that
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By this time I guess I can put 2 fleets
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should have the fleets for cor 6 abyssals
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But my fleets remained the same for a long time
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you wont really be able to tackle bosses/arbiter with one fleet in opsi
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u dont have enough rainbows to onefleet everything
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How many those may be?
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what
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Sorry, my bad English at it again
I meant, how many UR do you think are needed for one-fleeting those things
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ya your fleets are really uncoordinated
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but looking at your ships you should be able to at least have a fleet to auto strongholds
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Yeah, I only use fleet 2 for everything so far
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could u repost ur dock by vanguard sort and then main fleet sort, if u wanna ask for opsi fleets now
if not, then can just hold off, you've an idea of who to raise now
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Yes, I do certainly have an idea, and thanks for that, give me a moment to have those screenshots for both main fleet and vanguard
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oh i missed the kron earlier when looking at screenshots
well thats an easy mob fleet right there
unikai/independence/volga kron/chang chun/anshan
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Volga flag?
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I see
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since you dont have nj
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Well, now I may share the full dock separated in vanguard and main fleet
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aight
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since you dont have nj
Yeah, I started playing a bit before UvH event, I couldn't get her
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nagato, shokaku, zuikaku, bellona, sirius + a tank for cv fleet?
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Nagato buffs inj cv? Or inj in general?
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well ulrich vanguard warkai
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Full UR
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nagato, shokaku, zuikaku, bellona, sirius + a tank for cv fleet?
he has ark tho good standin tho
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no shinano huh
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Not retrofit, but mlb ark
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yeah the issue is whether youll be able to hit converging torps without slow
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no shinano huh
Only ships I missed since I started were Indomitable, Princeton and Shinano
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alright
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or whether your vanguard can survive until zuikaku ramps without nagato but with a slow
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enty ark centaur is cool
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Cranes is Zuikaku/Shoukaku?
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yes
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Oh, and also add to that list Graf Zeppelin and Montpellier
I'm getting those two by invitation
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shokaku can be used as a buffer independently, but zuikaku needs all her buffs and a longer fight to really shine
i guess the cv fleet Cad suggested will be easier to work with
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I would skip second BB fleet
and just work with mob, bb, cv, fourth fleet for arbiter
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So far, what I've got for real is that Centaur and Jervis will be good to mlb
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Yeah, I supposed so
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indep doesnt replace centaur here tho
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Wait, Independence?
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yeah not here
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but indep replaces for mobbing
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i meant overall, usually you dont want indep for bossing
shes a top pick for w14 bossing tho
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I suppose Vanguard too, let me think what more
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shes basically a cv disguised as cvl
I kinda had that feeling when she somehow did more damage than my Essex once, and being like 15 levels below
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Mob Fleet: Jean Bart Volga Unikai Jervis Magdeburg Chang Chun
BB Fleet: Vanguard Ulrich Warkai Adalbert Helena An Shan
CV Fleet: Ark Centaur Enty Kronshtadt Bellona Sirius
Antilight: aurora
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Aurora?
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yeah if you want anti light fleet, you use aurora for the debuff
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Bellona and Sirius both buff CVs?
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ye
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bellona is 15% dmg and sirius is avi buff
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I suppose since if not they didn't make sense in CV fleet
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and that fleet gets kronshtadt because she buffs other fleet bbs, not her own
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kron would be ideal in mob fleet but you dont really have a tank for cvs i guess
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ya
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A tank like which one?
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agir
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Oh
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dfg recommended slow stacking, so i thought that was pretty banger
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guess that works too
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So far my only PR ship is Roon, I also have to work on that
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can you MLB repulse meta?
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but even with 80% slow all it takes is a small sidestep
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can you MLB repulse meta?
In terms of having what is needed? Yeah, should I?
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not necessarily right now
but if you ever wanted an anti light bb fleet
shes a top choice
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Repm?
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repulse meta
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repulse meta -> repm
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Oh, my bad
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not at all
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but anyways, anti light fleet is a luxury pick
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ya
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for when you have resources to do so
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you havent raised any of the right ships for it, so rather focus all bb and cv
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and if you ever feel like doing so
fallow birch
I see, in term of fleet building I still lack a bit
So maybe I'm not getting everything you said, but I noted in general the ships that are good options to level from here on
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chat is always there to follow up with questions, all good
also cant expect to learn everything within 30 mins
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Not everything, but got a good idea
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upcoming jp anni might shake up fleet ideas anyway
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i almost gave up but got her in the end
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Mob Fleet: Jean Bart Indepkai Unikai Jervis Magdeburg Chang Chun
BB Fleet: Vanguard Ulrich Warkai Adalbert Helena Emden
CV Fleet: Ark Centaur Enty Kronshtadt Bellona Sirius
Antilight: Repulse Meta Duke of York Howe, Roon Aurora An Shan
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not worth if youd have to use too many cubes before UR event tho
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well i see roon
maybe dork over joffre
yeah
but antilight is just filler ships until you raised bb and cv fleets
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except he has a really solid antilight
just happens to not be useful on arbiter next month so
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if he had brunhilde hed have probably the strongest antilight
but would cripple main bb fleet
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i mean uvh
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oh
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uvh/brun/repm is really strong antilight
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for sure
fallow birch
Oh
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but dont do it
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but yeah, not worth crippling main fleets for that
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Wdym by crippling?
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since you dont have anything to replace uvh with
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u have no equal ship to ulrich rn
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moving uvh to antilight will leave you with just vanguard in main bb fleet
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Vanguard isn't?
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she's already in it
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Oh, I see
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ye but its one ship and you need 3
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If I had NY she would fit there, right?
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And also, Joffre is good too?
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i have no clue, didnt bother to lvl her up
doesnt seem worth to me personally and gives useless bonus tech at 120
probably a good transitional cv still
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Yeah, I didn't too, but as I'm taking notes, I saw he mentioned Joffre
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changed my mind
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basically, 3 fleets for the beginning, mob/bb/cv and 4th one whatever is highest level left
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Mob Fleet: Jean Bart Indepkai Unikai Jervis Magdeburg Chang Chun
BB Fleet: Vang...
once you've leveled and MLBed all ships in BB and CV fleets, then you can easily antilight
but antilight isnt important since you can put HE guns on ur normal BB fleet
and still have good effect for abyssals
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once you've leveled and MLBed all ships in BB and CV fleets, then you can easily...
On BB only left is Helena
And in CV... The whole fleet
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ur CV fleet is as important
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Lmao, I need to level them so I can run CV fleet?
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i mean you were already running one fleet most of this time right
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For mob only Jervis is left
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how much of opsi did you manage to clear this month already?
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But I'm curious on one thing, Essex is not in any of the teams?
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nah, there arent enough planes for essex in opsi compared to campaign
and she isnt really bossing focused
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how much of opsi did you manage to clear this month already?
All nodes but the last 7 from the middle that I was going to do today
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but her kit doesnt stand out anywhere except w13
youd probably be better running centaur over essex in any content tbh
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more generally p much
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Centaur is CV or CVL?
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CVL
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All nodes but the last 7 from the middle that I was going to do today
you cleared all the chests already?
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Oh, no, I'm pretty far from chests
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cvl but similarly to independence gets same amount of planes as full carriers do
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so, dont bother with jervis yet and clear out opsi with porkai
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and two fighter slots mean she launches pretty fast
which makes it easy to time her buff for other backline cvs
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yep, thats a whole day worth of opsi right there 
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Only one?
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I would say more like a 36 hours day
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just work down from highest corruption levels and go on down
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think it took me like 6-7h of semi active grind to clear all obscured coords/arbiters/abyssals/strongholds
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I'll try the way I actually usually do
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since im always lazy and do it all last day
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I should change the fleets or get em some changes?
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hm
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change them after reset
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At least for a second fleet, that I think I could be able to have one
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guess we should make up 2 fleets that will allow best performance before the reset
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Mob Fleet: Jean Bart Indepkai Unikai Jervis portkai Magdeburg Chang Chun
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and then he could go back to getting 3 up
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Fleet one I think is good enough, what I've always used so far was
Jean Bart, Ulrich Von Hutten, Essex, Prinz Adalbert, Chang Chub and An Shan
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discord ate up most of the thread for me fml
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no unikai?
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But it died because of no healer, then I swapped Essex for Unicorn
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yep
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At that time my only healer was Shouhou
I got to level Unicorn, and well she also got a retrofit that is just OP
And for a second fleet maybe I can just stick all my strongest ships left?
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sounds like the best plan yeah
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Something like Independence/Volga/Essex Portland/Magdeburg/Nimi
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too little time before reset to try and lvl additional stuff up
hm
any bb decently levelled?
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no
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Yeah, on next reset I'm going to have a couple more of good ships leveled
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guess that will have to do
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youd kinda have to use them both tho
what lvls are indep/essex/volga?
since discord ate up earlier messages and i cant see screenshots
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I have some BC being Lutzow and Seydlitz too
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well i mean
in terms of best levelable fleets u could make
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what lvls are indep/essex/volga?
ess 120, volga 102, indep 104
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Lmao, I need to level them so I can run CV fleet?
Glenvik OpSi Fleets to be raised:
Mob Fleet: Seydlitz Indepkai Unikai, Jervis Magdeburg Chang Chun
BB Fleet: Vanguard Ulrich Warkai, Adalbert Helena Emden
CV Fleet: Ark Centaur Enty, Kronshtadt Bellona Sirius
Antilight: Repulse Meta Duke of York Howe, Roon Aurora An Shan
I'm done with edits. u already have ur standin fleets so this is for future, everything's about solid
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And Emden is useful also?
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emden is at least offtank
not really useful, but ur best filler for now
i guess she buffs ulrich
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Good, thank you a lot
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nah she's useful
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emden is fine, also a good fleet tech for future to keep in mind
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10% fp is kinda banger
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especially now that we got 2 good dps cls in pr5
also emdens gimmick might be useful in situations like current META fight
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idk, buffing ulrich alone makes her better than most of his vanguards
even if emden did no dmg would do it
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yeah that aswell