other-games

[unkempt mantle]

I would play Lexi if AA wouldnt ruin me more now for having less plane HP

I might play Ranger though

We have camos now for some ships that show # of ships sunk while playing that ship

[unkempt mantle]

[wintry trail]

Commander system is so p2w

[unkempt mantle]

not all of them

NJ and Collie are really good

honestly some of the paid commanders arent as good as the free ones

Paolo di Revel > Littorio
Andrew Cunningham/John Fisher > Nelson

[wintry trail]

Jez, 2 cit and 6 overpen do 35236 dmg, so a shell alpha is 13552 dmg

That's heavy 406mm AP shell level at PC

[unkempt mantle]

11330 according to stats page

[unkempt mantle]

Collies is 13640

[wintry trail]

Yeah, and WG decided it's balanced for tier IV-V

[unkempt mantle]

Collie is t6 for us

t7 for you

and Nevada is T4

oh wait

I thought Collie had the highest shell damage of my american BBs but maybe not

ok

NC has the highest at 14410

[wintry trail]

I would said increase AP alpha more than 15% is not balanced at all

We could only increase it for 7.5% and with a very bad penalty

[unkempt mantle]

[clever terrace]

HMMMM

[unkempt mantle]

the AP shell damage is already added

[clever terrace]

fair and balanced trust

[unkempt mantle]

NC base is 13100

that makes it 14410 or whatever is was

once i max NJ commander its 20% more damage on citadels past 10km

[clever terrace]

that is 100% fair

[unkempt mantle]

indeed

[clever terrace]

wait

[unkempt mantle]

dont go broadside against US BBs

you will learn

[clever terrace]

isn't it technically 30%

[unkempt mantle]

no

the 10% increase to AP shell damage is added to the base in the stats page

the other increases are specific to certain things

so you wont always have that damage

[clever terrace]

ah

[unkempt mantle]

the 5% is only for shells that travel further than 10km

anything less doesnt get that boost

and the 12.5% (15% max) is only for citadels, and wont increase regular pen or overpen damage

so those two dont affect the damage shown in the stats page

[clever terrace]

ah

so from your base you get a permanent 10% damage buff

[unkempt mantle]

i have a clip from a while before that I think I may have posted here
let me see if I can find it

[unkempt mantle]

yes

[clever terrace]

then 5% more for over 10km shots

[unkempt mantle]

although i wouldnt consider that a pay to win stat, considering there are many commanders that increase your damage

[clever terrace]

and 12.5% (15%) on shells that are citadels

that it?

[unkempt mantle]

yes

[clever terrace]

i see

so lets say I have a shell that has a base damage of 10k

assuming I meet all criteria (>10km shot, citadel) how much do I do

[unkempt mantle]

uh

im not entirely sure in what order it adds up

but let me do the math rq

unless its % of base and not % of %

ill do % of base

thats probably what it is

so if my math is correct, it should be 13,200

i think

but again, im not entirely sure how it's calculated, so that may be wrong

idk

[clever terrace]

still a good chunk of extra damage

[unkempt mantle]

following the same process, a 10km+ citadel hit from my Carol would be 17,292

[clever terrace]

pffft

[unkempt mantle]

which is nearly 3k extra

[clever terrace]

jover

[unkempt mantle]

anyway heres that clip i was talking about

[clever terrace]

pc players when we get 7.5% and nothing else

[unkempt mantle]

my pc friend also told me yall got reduced dispersion removed

[clever terrace]

LMFAO

bro just lost 97% of his HP

[unkempt mantle]

literally

[clever terrace]

we did have a skill rework awhile bacl

Wasn't around for it, though

[unkempt mantle]

this build is ridiculous for punishing broadsides

unless its a cruiser

[clever terrace]

overpens?

[unkempt mantle]

bc then we have this wonderful (and balanced) mechanic called overpens

[clever terrace]

yeap

[unkempt mantle]

the feeling of hitting 7 overpens on a cruiser at 13km who is begging to be devstruck is so amazing

wait did i ever send the clip of me almost deleting a Bismarck here?

[clever terrace]

i played a Cleveland once and did nothing but:
get close (>12.5km)
show broadside to any BB unless it's British
live because they overpenned

[unkempt mantle]

i dont think i did

I overpenned a Cleve at 15km

got off the game after that battle

[clever terrace]

LOL

[unkempt mantle]

ok i havent sent it here so im gonna go find it in another server

alr got it

[clever terrace]

let's see it

[unkempt mantle]

took longer than it should have bc i had to restart my chromebook since it lagged super bad and caused it to pixelate literally everything on the screen

[clever terrace]

oop

[unkempt mantle]

hang on

forgot to fix the file

there we go

[clever terrace]

yikes LOL

[unkempt mantle]

this was before the small Kansas nerf, so it wouldn't be that much damage anymore

[clever terrace]

Kansas in Legends: great
Kansas in PC: hot trash

[unkempt mantle]

same with California and Hyuuga, so Ive heard

[clever terrace]

sound familiar, California?

[unkempt mantle]

[clever terrace]

YEP

[unkempt mantle]

literally the 2 best T5 BBs on legends are 2 of the worst on PC

[clever terrace]

Played California on my wife's account once and it took my shells a whole half second to land, from the first to last

Flight time was 7.8 seconds as calculated

First shell hit the water at 7.8, last at 8.4s

All missed

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

For someone who values accuracy that singular match was hell lmao

[unkempt mantle]

I played California earlier this week and fired at a cruiser
First and second shells hit in about 8 seconds
other shells come in and...
wait whered the cruiser go

[clever terrace]

kek

[unkempt mantle]

if there are gaming vcs in this server, i could stream some California gameplay if youre interested

would be fun to play her more

especially since everyones trying out the new carrier mechanics and I can bully them with my 100 AA stat

well

99

but close enough

[clever terrace]

no gaming vcs, resort to DMs/other servers

[unkempt mantle]

ah

[clever terrace]

I'd be down later, but idk what your time's gonna be

[unkempt mantle]

its about 3PM now for me

[clever terrace]

cause I'll be on only in like 7 hours

so 10pm for you💀

[unkempt mantle]

ah

[clever terrace]

work go brrr

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

but fr, ALO mods: gaming vcs when

[unkempt mantle]

[clever terrace]

i beg

pls

[unkempt mantle]

i mean this is a massive server so itd get super chaotic

[clever terrace]

looks at WT youtubers' servers

[unkempt mantle]

I should join more servers tbh

im only in 3 that are really active

[clever terrace]

the one I'm most active in only has 25k people in it but there's a total of 38 gaming VCs

[unkempt mantle]

"only 25k"

[clever terrace]

well ALO has 198.5k

so

"only 25k" is accurate

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

btw I didn't count the event VCs

or the Naval ones, actually

that brings our total to 55 VCs

tbh to handle all that potential chaos all you need is a good and consistent mod team

afaik we have that here

[unkempt mantle]

ye

[sick skiff]

Well I guess I killed my luck for this now

[clever terrace]

[blazing nimbus]

these girls are cool but I hate how they come with new mats

[sick skiff]

Which is why you have to use AP to do spins for their mats

[wheat valley]

harbin almost got deleted by a fuso

[clever terrace]

teehee :3

[teal talon]

Dman inazami

You scary

[quartz mist]

"Sir?, uh... we spotted something very large... i dont think its a building or fortress... its.... moving"

[runic flame]

Have anyone ever played this??

[ember lance]

Never heard it

[runic flame]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nobleempire.wog

If you ever played GFL, you may interested with this

[ember lance]

Ahh

[unkempt mantle]

"British CLs suck", I said, then proceeded to dominate 4 battles in a row

[clever terrace]

you have made me want to try the Minotaur

i have no idea how it's gonna go

all I know is that I am 100% camping an island

[sage harness]

guys

is it just me

or is elbing really fucking hot

and i wanna get it so badly

ok screw this

were switching from us bb to german dd

im getting elbing

YEAHHHH

[glacial anvil]

I made a snow biome house

[digital prairie]

If you have never played Mino, it’s an amazing ship

Literally the best carry ship in the game, can torp like a DD, stealth radar and kill DDs with ease

Just win through sheer DPM

really is a shame it doesn’t get smoke though, since you WILL take radar right?

[clever terrace]

yeah, I'm taking that radar

unironically forget I have smoke 90% of the time, even when in a DD

[digital prairie]

Very good

The second I got access to radar on the Brit CLs I immediately took it

I have literally never played smoke Edin, Neptune or Mino

[clever terrace]

makes that much of a difference huh

[digital prairie]

Radar is literally the most influential consumable in the game

I’ll always take it if I can

Same with pan Asian DDs too, never played those with smoke once I got the T8

[clever terrace]

man, CLs just ain't my thing

I can see the potential in them, but I can't bring it out

Maybe it's cause I'm sick, so my decision-making's a little slow

what the...

well this'll be interesting

[sage harness]

shouuld i continue trying to go for elbing

cause now im at a crossroads betwen going for elbing or vermont/montana

or taking a 180 and start another branch

[digital prairie]

Depends what you are looking for

Elbong is not a DD, it’s a CL, with CA AP and no citadel

Montana is probably the most “jack of all trades” BB in the game where it doesn’t excel at anything, but it’s not weak at anything either

[sage harness]

im lookin for uh

a ship that destroys overconfident fucks and not something too slow but something somewhat survivable

preferably with a faster reload

and ok caliber

[digital prairie]

Montana then

12 accurate 406s, standard reload speed for BBs

Armor is alright and you get an improved heal

[sage harness]

it might be too late now, ive already got gaede

[digital prairie]

T6 is hardly a grind though

[sage harness]

fair but still

id rather not grind t6 again

[digital prairie]

Elbing also can punish people but not to the same extent as Monty

Elbing needs people to keep broadsiding for a bit to really start chunking them down

You want to devstrike people, you need a BB

[sage harness]

are there any other good bb choices?

[digital prairie]

Like, nail a cruiser for 15k with Elbing, cool, but you are going to need another 3-4 salvos like that to kill it, and you need to hope they don’t turn before you can do that

[digital prairie]

For a beginner, I’d say Monty is the best one to go down

Germans are strong but teach bad habits

French and Italian have very inconsistent guns and can be frustrating

The British are just HE spammers and people forget they have AP, also very bad armor

Russians might be another line you could go down, since their DCP is limited you will learn to use it properly, although in the current meta they aren’t great since they suck at long range

IJN, because the dispersion is better at long range (iirc) newer players never push with them, teaches bad habits

Alternatively if you want to keep with where you are on the German DDs, Z52 isn’t a bad ship

Smoke/hydro can be a strong gimmick and the whole line has pretty quick reloading torps, so it’s a good line for learning how to effectively use torps

Not to mention, knowing how torpedo boats play makes you a better BB player too, since you know how to play against them

[sage harness]

what can you tell me about cruisers?

last time i went the cruiser line was in ASIA but now im in NA

i picked the german line and honestly hipper was not fun

[digital prairie]

there's so many, and they are all so varied

looking at crusiers, do you want long range HE spam, pesudo BBs, oversized torp boats, or something teamplay oriented?

[sage harness]

hmmmm

i want something that can try sustaining itself more solo, since i usually do not like relying on my teammates

[this may be because im earlier tier rn though]

pseudo BBs sounds nice

i want something more reliant on AP rather than HE

also if there is one with SAP that'd be so awesome, it's be so cool

[digital prairie]

sounds like either Marseille or Venezia then

Venezia line has SAP and AP, very quick ships and they get exhaust smoke that's great for survivability (Venezia itself has pretty nice armor, the rest of the line not so much)

Marseille line is mini Dunkerques, big guns, big healthpools, MBRB and very good AP (Note, this line starts at T8, Algerie and before are HE spammers)

for an AP focus and very tanky there's also Petropavlovsk, that whole line has a ton of AP pen on the guns and improved pen angles, also gets radar (Again, starts at T8, T7 and below are HE spammers)

[elfin galleon]

im in so much pain

[sage harness]

so ive got several options

montana, venezia, marseille, elbing

h m m m m m m m m m

do rental ships give exp for the next ship in the line or not

marseille is tempting, but honestly

i find it pretty ugly :p

venezia is pretty hot

im almost tempted to go back to ASIA since i had more progress on there but all of mah friends are on NA

[digital prairie]

they do not

[sage harness]

ok yeah im not going for marseille

elbing, montana or venezia

[sage harness]

ive made progress to get to elbing but i might honestly go for venezia or montana

since from what im reading, elbing has difficulty fighting other destroyers

also i use destroyers mainly for their speed and inability to be hit

[wheat valley]

almost lost at the end these mines are just annoying

[sage harness]

h m m m m

i also wanna go british but i hate the british

[wheat valley]

british cls are fun but theyre fragile and have paper armor

[sage harness]

not even because theyre fragile, i just dont like british things

you get me yeah?

[wheat valley]

ye

[sage harness]

nice

i also hate ugly ships

for some reason

[sage harness]

the grind is painful

when you keep getting uptiers and alsoget placed in a position where there is almost no support

im sick of constnatly losing battles and dying before i can do anything

[wintry trail]

Maybe it's time to learn map analyze

[unkempt mantle]

I just got Icarus yesterday
Ive played 4 battles and every one has been an uptier where I am one of only like 3 other T5 ships

[wintry trail]

Some task has some tricks to by-pass very easy, one or two games is enough to complete it

[elfin galleon]

i was going to do the missions pretty fast

but i got so much bad matchmaking

that it took this long to finally finish it

[wintry trail]

Yeah, no, no need to play random

There's a task that need 30 kills or something, play D-Day like 3 games and I'm done with that one

[elfin galleon]

the main problem was the dmg on BBs/CR/DDs

on dds i was able to do on coop

[wintry trail]

That would be the easier one

Play UK BB

[elfin galleon]

but the bbs i had to do on randoms since on coop, everyone steals the dmg

[wintry trail]

*ss shot

[digital prairie]

really

10 short

[unkempt mantle]

CV changes making Lexi enjoyable and worth to play

Got beaten into the dirt by the Cleve at the end of the game though

[main depot]

Finally someone else who's having some fun with the CVs.

[unkempt mantle]

@main depot for now maybe
i heard earlier that people are so upset that theyre changing some things again this Monday

[clever terrace]

[main depot]

People are upset that CVs aren't being gutted. Monday's nerfs are some fairly minor tweaks. Mostly speed, HP, and damage.

[unkempt mantle]

People are upset that CVs exist at all, nothings changed

Also, @main depot
How do you play the early Pan-Europe DDs? I haven't really played them at all, and from what I can see they don't seem to have any special perks until like T5 or 6, so I'm unsure how to play them. Gunboat maybe?

[main depot]

I play them like openwater harassers.

[unkempt mantle]

explain?

[unkempt mantle]

Man, this is amazing
I've never had so much fun in CVs than I'm having rn
I'm loving this

[unkempt mantle]

WoWs is fun again
I might honestly switch from BB main and be CV main instead

[main depot]

I found out Midway had a historical complement of 100 planes. Now I have evidence to shut down crying BB mains complaining about "infinite" planes.

[digital prairie]

Theoretically 137

When RTS CVs were on PC, Midway used to have that many

Ironically the CV rework with regenerating planes actually reduced the max number of planes available for Midway

[main depot]

Yep. Gonna be good leverage to make BB mains mald.

[main depot]

No? It actually lets you reach its maximum, roughly.

Regens about 45 planes per squad over a whole match.

[digital prairie]

Is that legends numbers?

Cause on PC, Midway plane regen is like 70-90 seconds per plane iirc

So you are only going to be regening like 50 planes max during a game

[main depot]

Legends Midway is like 1 plane every 20s or so.

[digital prairie]

PC is 82 sec for rocket planes, 99 for torp planes and 76 for DBs

With 14/14/18 starting reserves

[main depot]

We get the similar starting reserves but without rockets.

[digital prairie]

That’s kind of ridiculous tbh

4 times faster plane regen compared to PC

You literally can’t deplane that

[main depot]

Historically accurate Midway.

Gotta have the 100 plane capacity.

[unkempt mantle]

historically accurate CVs in general

Kaga had a large complement of planes as well didnt she?

Didnt she have like 60 planes irl?

[main depot]

Probably? And yet ours vomits out a few too many.

[wintry trail]

90 planes in total

[unkempt mantle]

i see

debating playing Kaga actually

Im having too much fun with Ryujo rn though

Confed/High Cal in a CV

i honeslty hope they dont change too much on Monday

im actually having fun in this game again

[main depot]

Just some minor speed, hp, and damage nerfs.

[unkempt mantle]

minor like lepanto secondaries or minor like Kansas

bc those are two seperate "minors"

[unkempt mantle]

i love that the bomb changes were made to increase the accuracy and hit chance yet it still misses right off the sides of the ship every time

They couldnt have just

Shrunk the aiming circle a little?

[main depot]

Minor nerfs like Lepanto with US bomb accuracy being nerfed again.

[unkempt mantle]

hmm

well see what happens ig

[digital prairie]

I’ve just realized the resource ship coupons reset tonight

Can’t wait to play wows tonight and fight a million Mecklenburgs and Ragnars

[unkempt mantle]

?

What are those ships? We dont have them in Legends

Ragnar sounds like a british name

someone called me a bot for playing CV

well, you died to me
dying to a bot is pretty sad tbh

[timid mantle]

I'm feeling like I'm a bitter old man like gaming nowadays is worse than two decades ago.

[wintry trail]

tbh, I don't care about the coupon at all

[digital prairie]

Coal or steel ships

Basically freely available premiums, with coal being from daily logins and missions and steel from ranked

Meckenburg is a German T10 BB with 16 fast loading 305s with insane dispersion

Ragnar is a Swedish DD with stealth radar, and 4 152mm guns with literally the best accuracy in the game

[unkempt mantle]

ah

im so upset rn

spent 4 days grinding out 60 wins for the 70% coupon mission, hoping it would be 70% tech tree ships

its not

its 70% premium ships that i still cant afford even with the coupon

least i got to have fun with the new CV mechanics

[wintry trail]

"Fun" and "CV" or "SS" in the same sentence is illegal

[unkempt mantle]

nah

i havent been having much fun in the game lately, but i played Ryujo all day today and actually had a lot of fun

[clever terrace]

33% accuracy, it is over holy fuck

I do feel bad for the Iowa on the enemy team this match

hit him for 18k off of his superstructure, front guns only

[unkempt mantle]

What

with what ship?

[clever terrace]

Maine

[unkempt mantle]

jesus

[clever terrace]

had I had my rear guns in play bro would've been dead

[unkempt mantle]

I dont think our maine could do that

what your maines alpha?

[clever terrace]

mine's 14513

base 13500

[unkempt mantle]

ours is 13100 base

[clever terrace]

i would like to ask though

what was that Iowa doing

firing HE

he could've got me back for at least 8k

[unkempt mantle]

i will never understand US BB players shooting HE

[clever terrace]

but no, he shot HE

not that it would've mattered

i had two and a half times his HP lmao

[unkempt mantle]

obviously, there are scenarios that make sense for HE, but Ive fought US BBs spamming HE like British BBs

[clever terrace]

almost three

[clever terrace]

never works

[unkempt mantle]

It hurts when I see a California spamming HE

[clever terrace]

that sharp pain in your chest or what

[unkempt mantle]

sometimes

[clever terrace]

lmao

[unkempt mantle]

I hit a Nagatos cit with Cali today

chunked her for like 25k in that salvo

[clever terrace]

damn, nice

I got a random BS citadel on an angled Monty earlier today

[unkempt mantle]

This was that game

[clever terrace]

OH my god

31k off the broadside Preussen

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

and again

three salvos for 31k, 15.6k, and 20.9k

and the fourth kills him outright with a 30k again

[unkempt mantle]

jesus

man, i thought i had a clip from earlier of me hitting a DD with torpedo from Ryujo but apparently not

[clever terrace]

I hate it here

holy shit

Okay, what

This is illegal

41K off the (once again broadside) GK??

when will they learn, oh my

[clever terrace]

Yoshino behind our spawn
Threatens to report me for pushing

???????????????

brother it's 5 minutes into the game

[digital prairie]

i now have 11 premium british BBs

[wintry trail]

I got scammed by WG when I bought Kommissar

[wheat valley]

these planes really wants me to die

[digital prairie]

arms race Incomparable is actually stupid

[bronze edge]

just give me my kraken WG

[clever terrace]

no

[bronze edge]

we do love playing in low tier tho

[clever terrace]

low tier best tier

[digital prairie]

this is dumb

[bronze edge]

[wintry trail]

Did you pick Heavy AP

[digital prairie]

don't have it, no

if i did, that probably would have been like 30k

[bronze edge]

no need to and on a ship that gets citted by about almost everything

kinda would not be a smart thing

[digital prairie]

it's mainly i don't want to run it on my other brit BBs but i still want cunningham

so i'm not going to respec him for a single ship

[bronze edge]

lol true

imagine st. vin with heavy AP

[digital prairie]

gross

also something i realized about Incom

the shells do so much damage, overpenning a turret on low caliber ships is enough to instantly break them

[wintry trail]

Since you overmatch everything, why aim at the turret tho

[digital prairie]

1: it was shell RNG
2: it's funny

[wintry trail]

Mine have heavy AP, 2 cit 1 zao

old one

[digital prairie]

didn't mean to aim at the turret but it just happened

[bronze edge]

wow some blocked messages who could that be??

[bronze edge]

poor jinan wjhy you perma his turret

amd then his ship

[digital prairie]

e m o t i o n a l d a m a g e

[bronze edge]

smh my head

[kind niche]

Break out!

[timid mantle]

I'll be honest here because my expectations on any of the latest games are low like pretty low.

[wintry trail]

[unkempt mantle]

WHAT

20 inch guns reloading in 23 seconds is crazy

This afk Icarus I ended up dying next to towards the end of a game yesterday.
I choose to roleplay that she was picking up survivors (even though I was in a Japanese CV ) so that at least she contributed something to the game

i might play more tbh

Ryujo is ridiculously fun

dive bombers still suck though

[bronze edge]

7 minute combat scout

[bronze edge]

cope

[unkempt mantle]

Why do the stock planes do more than the upgraded planes?

also they buffed saipan

theyre only changing high tier CVs though

the only change below T7 is Indep getting accuracy reduced and having 2 bombs per plane instead of 3

Haku losing like 2700 torpedo damage though

Kaga loses like 1500

I feel like CVs (and subs on pc from what Ive heard) are kinda the same
Not in that theyre op, but in the way that theyre harder to balance

Because a bad player will never do well in them, and nerfing them would make it even worse and then very few would play them, and while thats probably what (most of) the playerbase wants, WG would probably feel that their effort to expand the game and make it more interesting would be wasted if they did that
However, on the other hand, they cant really buff them either, bc there are very good players that will absolutely smoke your entire team normally, so buffing them isnt much of an option either

I wouldnt say im really for or against CVs bc i do like the extra challenge and strategy they bring to the game (even though half of that strategy is gone bc they cant spot anymore) but I enjoy the game as it is now, and i feel like CVs are a good part of the game, though many others probably dont agree (and will probably openly hate on me for it)

I enjoy playing all the ships, although I dont really like cruisers as much since I've never been one for the (statwise) balanced class. I've never been one for the all-rounder playstyle.

Comparing it to an FPS game, I'd say CVs are kinda like snipers
Theyre hard to find in their hiding spots, and can do big damage to your team if its a good player, but once you find them, theyre pretty defenseless
I cant even count the amount of times Ive been spotted in a CV and immediately devstruck by one of the battleships I've been poking for 5 minutes

I think with me its just that, as someone whos played carriers, and played against carriers more than that, I've never really had a problem with them
Even in ships with no AA when I've been attacked by a CV, it's never been a huge problem
Heck, i shot down 7 planes in a Mutsuki once, which doesnt sound like a lot, but considering that ship has no AA and it was American planes (which have more HP), i personally think thats pretty good
I just find it really hard to believe that, as someone who is nowhere near as skilled as others, that higher skilled people have such a problem with them that I havent had since I started playing

Anyway, I apologize for my massive rant here. You can ignore it if you want, mods can delete it, whatever. I just felt the need to say my bit. Not like i havent done it before lol

[digital prairie]

People have a problem with them because they don’t like having to change their playstyle

I watched a BB bitch the entire game about how much he hates carriers because he had to rely on teammates for cover instead of running to the edge of the map and sniping people off on his own

It’s also entitlement, of them believing that “I’m better than that person why should they be able to kill me” so obviously a class that allows them to be bullied by someone and doesn’t let them win with ease is somehow bad game design

[unkempt mantle]

That does seem fairly accurate tbh

[digital prairie]

Like, if someone running an OP ship with like an 80% WR over thousands of games gets bullied by a carrier once in a while, I don’t see an issue with it, since playing against that person isn’t much fun for other players

[unkempt mantle]

I feel like as a lower skilled player, i dont have the right to say that though

[unkempt mantle]

true

[digital prairie]

I mean, everyone has a right to an opinion

The whole idea of “I’m not good enough to have a right to an opinion” is how you get really toxic playerbases

[unkempt mantle]

Honestly thats just kinda how i feel in general lol
but i wont get in to that here

I do kinda agree with that though

[digital prairie]

Like, discourse is very healthy for game communities

Not everyone is going to agree on everything, but it’s important to not have things be dominated by “you must agree with us because we are better than you”

[unkempt mantle]

true

I just realized that the only T5 CV i dont have is Weser

guess once im done with my mc project ill grind the credits to get her

much easier to grind 5.6mil for her than 22mil for Minnesota

I wish that 70% off coupon was for tech tree ships and not premums in the shop

would be awesome to get Minnesota for 6mil

[digital prairie]

Man I’d love to get a 70% off premium coupon

Best they have done on PC in the last while was 50%

[unkempt mantle]

I would love it if I could afford them

I have 95 doubloons rn

which is nowhere near enough

[digital prairie]

[unkempt mantle]

I want to get Atlanta, but even with the coupon shes like 3500 i think

[clever terrace]

it's enough, trust

just hallucinate a couple zeroes into existence

[unkempt mantle]

[digital prairie]

i don't remember getting this many 21 point UK captains

[clever terrace]

ummm

game brokey?

[bronze edge]

I think .. I just don't play wisconsin anymore

[balmy vault]

I tried

schroder killed me pushing that lushun in the smoke

[blazing nimbus]

I don't have one 21 point captain and I started in 2017.

[bronze edge]

The Red fleet of Victory I star destroyers? Under Grand Admiral Thrawn?

[bronze edge]

If you don’t play daily … it’s understandable

[desert helm]

sadly no
it is actually a fleet of crimson victory-iis
under the teradoc brothers

[bronze edge]

Ah..

[digital prairie]

@bronze edge my first game with Yukikaze as my captain

literally rigged game

[bronze edge]

Yukikaze-Sama!

it gets better when she's on a BB

[digital prairie]

like, first game and i detonate two people

one of them from literally full health

[bronze edge]

XD

[digital prairie]

[clever terrace]

isn't she the self-proclaimed goddess of luck or something?

pretty sure she said something along those lines in LCSoS' mini-game or something

[wheat valley]

why do i have to wait 8 days for a skin for baltimore

[bronze edge]

ngl once I saw that too I was like wellp... I don't need to grind this anymore

XD

[wheat valley]

well is a free skin

[bronze edge]

very true which i want as well...

also I like how in the D Day port the crate armoury has two Sherman M4A3E2 Jumbos

chonk tank

[wheat valley]

yeah i noticed that too

also is funny to bring agincourt in this mode literally a mini schlieffen but the downside is that it doesnt have aa

[bronze edge]

... the torps and rockets from the Aerodrome... are not what MVR can carry... it's not fair XD

[digital prairie]

Yeah, just a crazy coincidence that I get some insane RNG the first game I have her as my captain

almost like it’s not RNG

[unkempt mantle]

yes

[clever terrace]

amazing

[clever terrace]

you know what I think would be cool as fuck

[inland locust]

[clever terrace]

if skins like the D-Day one changed the name to the ship it represents

so in the case of the aforementioned D-Day skin it changes the Baltimore to the Quincy while you have it on

[digital prairie]

[unkempt mantle]

That would be cool tbh

There are skins that alter names in World of Tanks, so doing it in WoWs wouldn't be too hard I don't thnk

I just wish the one for Texas that we have wasn't locked in a bundle you gotta buy out of the store

Like, I already have Texas, why should I have to buy a bundle for the ship and the skin mission

Why can't I just have the mission

Plus, in order to get Texas normally, you have to buy a $10 bundle anyway

[digital prairie]

would be too confusing for a large majority of the playerbase

like Cleveland and Montpelier, Montpelier is underestimated because people genuinely don't know it's a Cleveland

[clever terrace]

genuinely don't understand that, you literally see the ship you're shooting, surely people can match shapes, right?

[digital prairie]

no...

you ever been in the official wows discord, the ship guessing channel?

like

3 turrets
Fletcher

like not saying anything about this guy in particular, just that this is what most players in the game are like

[bronze edge]

Ouch

[clever terrace]

i am not in the official server but I am starting to understand

[bronze edge]

Dw the official WoWs server is just as horrid

[wooden ether]

[bronze edge]

richelieu stronk

[digital prairie]

[bronze edge]

we zero'ed them.. sub charged me and died horribly

[clever terrace]

HOW IS HE ALIVE????

[digital prairie]

Satsuma aimed too high i think

100% i should have gotten clapped by it

[clever terrace]

you did get clapped, just not killed

[clever terrace]

Lies and slander, y'all

hmm

okay

no more boats today, I guess

I was having fun with those guys, too

damn...

[wheat valley]

rip

[digital prairie]

been trying legmod F3 shima

i just can't get this build to work, F3s are so terrible at T10

he let those fires kill him btw

never used DCP

supership players i swear...

[clever terrace]

he doesn't even have his funny button active...

[clever terrace]

Clutched game ngl

team was falling apart the first half, but we won in the end

[silent minnow]

This ship ... Is the reason why i hate T11

[wintry trail]

If Maine is the reason why you hate tier XI, then you haven't seen Annapolis

[silent minnow]

I already see the Annapolis in action .... Okay it's not fun when you are in front of his machine gun
Look like Desmoine but Hellish

.
Maine .... I've try one on my friend account ...

First salvo ; 4 citadels on front of Moksva
Second salvo ; 2 citadels on the back of devastation
3 third salvo ; 9 penetration on Yamato

Total ; +100k damage in less than 4min

You don't need your brain to play this ship

That the problem

[silent minnow]

.
But i aggree with you on fact ; all T11 is not fun to fight

[bronze edge]

I mean if the player in the t11 is clueless is pretty fun to watch them just burn away... especially when you're a dd and smoke farming them out

[silent minnow]

You are so right x)

[bronze edge]

Like this one time with that "poor" devastation

Salem and fires go quite hand in hand

[silent minnow]

Satisfying stats

[clever terrace]

#other-games message

[bronze edge]

I see the other style of Imperial star fighter carrier, forget its name and feel sadge because of it.

[unkempt mantle]

Not in PC bc yall have attack aircraft that can delete DDs, but 7 CVs probably would die to a single DD in legends

[bronze edge]

why am I getting Smaland vibes... oh right Oxy has malded to me about that...

[unkempt mantle]

i just dont touch T6+ the pan-europe DDs

Lose planes to them faster than most American BBs

[clever terrace]

Me watching the Ranger go for a Kidd three times in a row...

(It's so over)

[bronze edge]

DFAA Kidd XD

[unkempt mantle]

Me trying to hit the same destroyer with 3 flights of dive bombers only for every bomb to miss just off her sides

[clever terrace]

no rocket planes?
[insert megamind here]

[unkempt mantle]

No

we dont have them in legends

only dive bombers and torpedo planes

[clever terrace]

ik

been looking at more Legends content recently

[unkempt mantle]

[clever terrace]

The absolute pain of getting a perfectly aimed drop on a DD only to leave it on 204 HP is immense

[unkempt mantle]

In legends youre lucky to even hit it

[clever terrace]

Damn

[unkempt mantle]

think ill play Ryujo some more

will probably buy Weser when i get the credits

need about 1mil more

[digital prairie]

honestly they don't

rocket planes used to clap DDs easily, but they added a delay to firing them, so now the only times you hit a DD for any significant amount of damage is when they go in a straight line

[bronze edge]

if you can catch their turn you can still hurt them with HVARs

but tims are not for like BBs and CA's only XD

[bronze edge]

@wheat valley 1 star for all this work... XD team could shoot coast guns or the DDs to protec the landing botes. Peak War Gaming

[wheat valley]

Team issue, at least 2 or 3 ships couldve protected the landing boats and the other focus the coastal guns

Oh forgot to mention the netherlands ships can 1 shot the airfields with their airstrike

[digital prairie]

they made Ragnar into a crusier and gave it smoke

and it gets stealth radar too, of course

[clever terrace]

mein Gott

[dense blaze]

I'm just very excited for more pan american BBs and their silly 234mm secondaries. Atlantico is a riot to play and now there will be more

[bronze edge]

oooh

[bronze edge]

i saw. Flamu did it and it was crazy

[elfin galleon]

thats not the worse

this shit is

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

also, what are they cooking with prinz heinrich?

[clever terrace]

Guess what happened here...

[bronze edge]

you landed duh

[clever terrace]

...

[clever terrace]

that much is obvious, now dig deeper

[bronze edge]

nah that requires too much effort

[clever terrace]

aqwoy tSNeyaeiawtb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1092805642932191364/1244066507701354579/Sexpunch.gif

[grand radish]

oh great the most hated things

[digital prairie]

no landing gear is the fastest way to land

[clever terrace]

yeah but that would entail fuselage damage

which is not what I have

[digital prairie]

i've done it before without fuselage damage somehow

landed a spitfire with only one wing at 600km/h

[clever terrace]

that's not the point - it's where the damage is

[grand radish]

all the actuators failed? and you still made a land? Good job

[digital prairie]

you fly through a patch of trees or something?

considering the wingtips being gone on both sides

[clever terrace]

nah, I messed up my final approach and ended up tumbling end over end

well, side over side, I guess it'd be

in that landing I was like

"oh I'm dead"
"nvm"
"I'm dead"
"nvm"
"Oh I am so cooked"
"nvm"
"this one might get me... nope"

[digital prairie]

drop a 12000lb bomb onto an open top SPAA

hit

i remember why i don't play WT that much

[clever terrace]

never try to direct hit people

always go for near misses

that bug's been around since ground was in beta LMAO

[digital prairie]

my brother in christ it's 5 tons of torpex

[clever terrace]

ik

it's absolute fucking bullshit

I just ate a massive lagspike as I flew a nuke to the battlefield

tried to lose altitude to avoid ground fire and lagged out

next thing I know I've crashed

I am going to take a walk

[wheat valley]

which one is worth namba wan or brandeburg?

i dont even use colbert that much

[digital prairie]

i'd sooner trade in a coal ship

Brandenburg's definitely the easier ship to play, 12 305s that reload decently fast and are honestly not that inaccurate

the secondaries on the ship are great and it's got Bismarck's armor so it's hard to kill

[wheat valley]

the only reason why i avoid so much the german bbs is their main guns but the secondaries are good

probably ill exchange yoshino and colbert to get both

[digital prairie]

why colbert though

coal is so much easier to come by than RP

[wheat valley]

i dont use that much

in the end i exchanged both

[bronze edge]

i mean the loos you're getting tho

[silent minnow]

Bourgogne... What a ship

So soft to play, it's a comfy gameplay

[sharp rapids]

Finally have 2 rank 6 tanks on Germany

[elfin galleon]

i had 2 ships that i dont play (both coal) so i exchange them for this 2

and ngl, so far im loving brandenburg

[bronze edge]

She looks so good

[inland locust]

[acoustic valley]

No...NOOOOOOOOooooooo!!!!

[balmy vault]

Pulled for alice?

My boy is a striker

[acoustic valley]

No, from mold

[balmy vault]

Ohh

Congrats maybe

[clever terrace]

they shot down my nuke but didn't kill my tank on the ground so my rampage continued

funny 6 inch gun on T-80 chassis

[half elbow]

Gotta love the amount of money you earned

Only 9k RP kinda sucks

[clever terrace]

yeah...

Genuinely almost ran out of ammo that match LOL

had 3 left iirc

[balmy vault]

Too much confidence rushing me just because he had more HP

[wheat valley]

damn the secondaries cooked pretty well

[main depot]

Guys, unsurprisingly, Enterprise coming to WoWs Legends.

[balmy vault]

even better

being a campaign ship

[bronze edge]

object 262...

[bronze edge]

dang you hate to see that..

[unkempt mantle]

LETS GOOOOOO

Oh wait oxy already said

Frick

[clever terrace]

the funny 6 inch railgun strikes again

[unkempt mantle]

Is she? Someone in the replies said she wouldnt be campaign since CVs arent super popular (Although tbh CVs are pretty popular considering like 9/10 games are CV games)

wait a minute

isnt Enty one of the ones they removed from pc for being too strong?

[clever terrace]

Yes

actually that might be misinformation

[unkempt mantle]

CV haters gonna have a field day with this one

I can see the SpartanElite43 video title already

[clever terrace]

i had someone mistake me for that guy once

had no clue what they were on about so I looked it up

[unkempt mantle]

LOL

Hes good but god the CV rants

[clever terrace]

yeah

I was like

brother, you just saw me absolutely simping for an aircraft carrier how could you POSSIBLY mistake me for this guy???

[unkempt mantle]

[clever terrace]

Though I do understand where they were coming from, considering this

being my handle on some sites

[unkempt mantle]

im expecting a video title to be something like "PC's broken carrier coming to Legends! The game is doomed!"

[clever terrace]

It's actually over

[unkempt mantle]

Like, Spartan is definitely good at the game, but at the same time, there are some things that people make such a fuss over that I just cant see being a super huge deal

Like Lepantos secondary nerf

iirc she lost like .5km range and like a couple seconds more reload

[clever terrace]

that's nothing

why the mald lmfao

[unkempt mantle]

which is not as bad as people made it sound

like there were people complaining that the ship was then unplayable

[clever terrace]

??????

[unkempt mantle]

sometimes i just dont understand the community lol

[clever terrace]

"omg it lost .5 km range and has 2 second longer reload!!!!!! absolutely unplayable!!!!!!"

that would matter more if it was main guns

but secondaries?

nah

[unkempt mantle]

yeah, definitely not the worst thing to happen

and although i agree that the Kansas nerf was a little upsetting, it also is not bad

1 second more reload and i think -1k damage

basically nothing, again

[clever terrace]

well our Kansas has a 40 second reload and piss poor accuracy

[unkempt mantle]

our Kansas has 35 reload and is like the best BB at T7

[clever terrace]

Legends Kansas:
PC Kansas:

[unkempt mantle]

seems that way with a lot of ships lol

[clever terrace]

sound familiar, California?

[unkempt mantle]

[bronze edge]

Legends cali at T5 (PC T6)

[unkempt mantle]

man i wanna play Cali but at the same time i have to suffer through the french BBs

[clever terrace]

why did the French not have an aft main battery

seriously

[unkempt mantle]

everything for us is moved down a tier from its pc counterpart i believe

[bronze edge]

mhm

I would know

Oxy

[unkempt mantle]

all of the ones in game do besides Richelieu, Jean Bart, and Dunkerque iirc

lol

[clever terrace]

[unkempt mantle]

I dont remember where, but I heard somewhere that De Grasse was good in the current brawl mode on Legends.
So I tried her

literally a minute and a half in, I got devstruck by a Dallas

Whoever that was that said that, I hate them

[bronze edge]

why is Aegis such a painful op.

[digital prairie]

Shipyard restrictions

[clever terrace]

ah

[digital prairie]

Due to the size of the dry docks in France, the way the French could fit the most guns into their BBs was putting them all forward to make the overall ship smaller

Also why they went with quad turrets, due to size restrictions

Also, putting the turrets close together made less of the ship need to be armored, so it made them lighter too

[clever terrace]

I see

[digital prairie]

Looking into it more, I can’t actually find a source on the drydock size part except for the fact France only had one which was big enough (had the ships been larger) in Saint Nazaire

I remember reading the drydock size restriction somewhere but I can’t find an actual source, so I might be wrong

So the only credible reason I can find for it is the all forward design made the ships smaller and lighter, so they complied with the Washington (and London) naval treaties

[wheat valley]

Always has been

[clever terrace]

Lexington II, eh...

[digital prairie]

torpedo boats sure are fun...

[bronze edge]

just peed better

[unkempt mantle]

[scarlet sparrow]

https://youtu.be/5qfS33Spr4s?si=EGSsNyhjGw6Qhaz_

[digital prairie]

[clever terrace]

YES

[wheat valley]

rip my torps launchers, why they are so fragile smh

[unkempt mantle]

I've never gone into a battle in a Japanese cruiser and not had a torpedo launcher destroyed within 5 minutes, so you're luckier than me probably

I got a torpedo launcher on Atago destroyed in like 2 salvoes from a DD once

[clever terrace]

wha

[unkempt mantle]

Her torpedo launchers are the only thing more fragile than her citadel

[clever terrace]

[digital prairie]

The only ship I consistently lose turrets/torp launchers on is Khaba

Like half my Khaba games end with me being a shitty ognevoi with no torps

[clever terrace]

I consistently lose torps on Tirpitz

strangely enough, Tirpitz B is unaffected

and for some unknown reason my Maine's 3"/70 AA defense suite dies a lot - to the point where I've gone and taken AAM1

speaking of Maine - where quad Bofors

[clever terrace]

we love wows reddit

[digital prairie]

CVs not depicted as literally satan?

[wintry trail]

Obsolete, got replaced

[clever terrace]

I guess...

[clever terrace]

damn, okay

[bronze edge]

Rip

[bronze edge]

US and fellow CVs aren't Satan

They're friends

[digital prairie]

Not according to the in game chat when I play them

[bronze edge]

That means you're doing a friendly CVs work

[clever terrace]

CVs are very friendly

They shower you with gifts, after all

Whether you like them or not, you will recieve gifts - mostly of the explosive type!

[unkempt mantle]

CVs just like to prank
"Here, cruiser, catch this ball!"
"Just kidding, ITS A BOMB!"

[bronze edge]

like look at this cute CV like she wouldn't even hurt a little DD

[clever terrace]

For a minute there, I swear I saw a sprite of her on the flight deck waving at me

I'm booking an appointment...

[bronze edge]

[unkempt mantle]

She would never

Also has anyone here played Ace Combat 7?

I bought it the other day on sale and finished it yesterday

Reminded me of titanfall

Really good campaign, but way too short for how good it is

[bronze edge]

exactly

look at her cute wink

[unkempt mantle]

very cute

[clever terrace]

XFA-27 my beloved

(tied with the Super Hornet)

[grand radish]

Great game, Bandai when is Ace 8

[unkempt mantle]

Favorite part of the game was when I shot down the "best ace in Erusea" with a F-104

[clever terrace]

BRUH LMAO

[unkempt mantle]

I'm about to do something really stupid

[clever terrace]

who would win

supermaneuverable stealth fighter

or

[unkempt mantle]

Wait

[clever terrace]

pencil.

[unkempt mantle]

I forgot I have to take off from a carrier in this mission

Can an A-10 get enough speed on a flight deck?

[clever terrace]

IRL no

In Strangereal? Absolutely

[unkempt mantle]

Ok it can yeah

Lol

[clever terrace]

I mean you can theoretically JATO it

just no catapults for you

[unkempt mantle]

Holy frick I did it

I don't think an A-10 realistically could do anything near what I just did

[bronze edge]

i mean ... if you buff up the landing gear you could XD....

[clever terrace]

yeah, and if you wanted to retain its overall performance you'd want a slightly redesigned wing and better engines

[plush charm]

I like kansas

[unkempt mantle]

Kansas my beloved

I did a thing

[clever terrace]

I love ace combat for the absolute bullshit you can get away with

"yes I shot down a supermaneuverable stealth fighter with a railgun with an A-10"

[unkempt mantle]

yes

Ok I am confused

I destroyed a Sinop gun in Colorado by hitting under the turret on the hull, which means I had to have hit the part of the turret inside the hull

But I got no citadel hit

Does that not count as citadel?

I thought it did

[clever terrace]

nope

the ribbon suggests it is, but it isn't

the citadel is always a block in the hull, never part of the barbette

[unkempt mantle]

ah

our ribbon just shows the block in the hull, but ik pc has the turrets as well so i was jw

[clever terrace]

tbh I like the Legends icons a lot more over PC for ribbons and consumables

they just look cleaner to me

[unkempt mantle]

I wish i could mod legends

i want AL character ribbons

[clever terrace]

Suffer >:)

[bronze edge]

Noice

[unkempt mantle]

I already do

[clever terrace]

Fuck

I feel bad now

[wheat valley]

Oof console player moments

[unkempt mantle]

Don't feel bad
The yoloing DD players definitely dont

[wheat valley]

I like how wows did a collab with hsf, ars nova arpeggio and al but wheres kancolle

[cold flower]

talking about WoWs

should i?

[wheat valley]

Its up to you if you want to try

Not me

[cold flower]

tbh i have like 700 hours on war thunder so im guessing i could handle the grind

although i dont expect it to be AS bad

i hope

War thunder really sucked the soul out of me though lol

only free game i've ever spent money on

i mean it was 33 bucks but still

that's like 3 indie games

[wheat valley]

I imagine the pain of grinding on wr

[cold flower]

i got to 11.3 on US (cus i grinded with a premium lol), 5.7 on germany, 4.3 on britain, 4.0 on USSR and 4.0 on china

i was a german main 'till i bought the F-4S lol

it cost me 33 bucks and not 70 cus i bought it through steam in argentina before the 20th of november 2023

[digital prairie]

the WOWs grind is honestly nothing compared to WT

[cold flower]

thank god

[digital prairie]

usually i can grind a line from start to finish in like 4 days maybe

granted, i do have premium time and good boosters, but still

also stock grinds on ships are not terrible, since you are just missing health/AA/some maneuverability compared to the WT stock grind of "i can't repair/put out fires/kill things because my ammo sucks"

[cold flower]

DAMN

[cold flower]

i mean even with that it's still super impressive

in WT with premium account and boosters you'd probably take like at least three weeks if all you do is play WT lol

[clever terrace]

who else hates rank 5 in WT

I certainly do

Unbalanced ass cesspool of a BR where every match is a full uptier.

ask literally anyone grinding anything 7.3 to 8.3, it's all full uptiers where you face vehicles that outmatch you in every way

Mobility, speed, gun handling, ammunition, fire-control systems, and armour

Prime example: T32E1 vs T-55A

You can't do shit to him unless he's showing his side, but he can lolpen you with sabot or HEAT from at least 500m.

[cold flower]

tbh rank 5 on aircraft is kinda weird

cus like its the point where a lot of props mix with a lot of jets

although high rank V is the best

like F-86/MiG-15 is the best stuff

[clever terrace]

no missile spam, yeah

still needs actual skill

[unkempt mantle]

Do it
Bully the tiny boats

[wheat valley]

bruh got deleted by a bayern bot with 2 shells

[cold flower]

i just played a couple of games

its actually quite fun

like genuinely

[unkempt mantle]

It won't be for long

[cold flower]

i'll start with UK since i get a +50% in XP and dabloons and then i'll move on to germany

[unkempt mantle]

[cold flower]

my objectives are the King George V, the Bismarck and the Hipper (closest thing to the eugen i can get lol)

[unkempt mantle]

PC doesn't have Eugen?

[clever terrace]

lemme check

[unkempt mantle]

Uh oh
Can't wait to hear the complaining about subs and CVs that comes from this

[clever terrace]

no, we do

[unkempt mantle]

Hates CVs on Legends
Plays PC that has even more CVs with even more gimmicks
Probably still complains

[unkempt mantle]

Oh

[clever terrace]

She's just

yk

[unkempt mantle]

Ig they meant it as they couldn't buy her

Makes sense

[clever terrace]

not fucking obtainable