other-games

[clever terrace]

that's actually kinda sad

what BR?

[ember lance]

the one with the fast german bomber

[clever terrace]

Ju 288?

that'd be 6.0 if so

and it honestly makes sense

rare, but possible

[ember lance]

forgot which one

either that or the arado ar 234

well, atleast i dont lose anything that match

[clever terrace]

prob the B then

C's at too high of a BR

[plush charm]

I got back into wows blitz even though i play pc wows

Did a great first game

[wintry trail]

Blitz is bidone, crazy p2w

Ain't going back

[daring plank]

Fast review of a yostar game: Aether Gazer

^basically this since it gives good appeal

In terms of combo, but is only 4 star since:
*Intern kun missing

• camera controls need improvement for a high action type game

[bronze edge]

Operator Frisco would sink you if he heard you pooptalking this beloved Alaska

[covert scroll]

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/526?fbclid=IwAR06N2hV2HVa5wZW3vpax0Gd56iwiQ94kU7rvPXpU2lLaWg_TKbey0Cc6VU_aem_ATkvmkf5oLAK_li1wcDTWcKRuOaDKqianZqa1rZtfjuI4OeCZ_Kwvjz5Utooxq6KhNE AYO

[wheat valley]

they cooked something better

[main depot]

My friend dev struck 2 DDs with Pobeda today. One with the help of my Petro's radar.

[digital prairie]

what kind of potatoes did you find damn

they just sit still and eat an entire torp drop?

[main depot]

One, it was skip bombers. Two, DDs with less than 16k HP.

[digital prairie]

that's some insane accuracy on them then

biggest skip bomber hit i've ever done to a DD was 8k, and i've only done that once

[main depot]

Legends nerfed the bomb pen and fire chance just to buff the damage instead. Can't have Pobeda hunting US BBs with 50mm HE pen.

[wintry trail]

Oh, right, LG

[digital prairie]

Ah that would explain things
Skip bombers on PC are pretty useless against DDs unless they never turn

Also the Petro/Pobeda division, which isn’t possible on PC

[wheat valley]

paid actors

[digital prairie]

@bronze edge want to div?

[unkempt mantle]

russian CV moment

gonna get Serov when I get back into playing but gotten burned out on the game for a few days

[digital prairie]

doing a bit of testing with the russians, this is the best strike i've gotten on a DD

[main depot]

Yeah, Legends players are dumb enough to take a -10% HP skill.

[bronze edge]

busy in CBs rn

[bronze edge]

nakhi is legit demented

[digital prairie]

yes, it is,
but a drop like that will never happen in practice

i got it perfectly centered in the reticle on a target completely stationary

i mean it does do like 30k rocket strikes to bigger ships which is completely fucked but it shouldn't happen to a DD

[bronze edge]

@digital prairie

Demented Gaming

[digital prairie]

despite how stupid nahki is, i never have fun playing it

i always get people who just keep turning

[bronze edge]

setting up strikes and what not

i can div in 5mins if you want

[digital prairie]

sure

[bronze edge]

smh my Nakhi stats

not blue i am ashamed

[digital prairie]

playing a game in Asturias, gotten my engine broken twice by Shokaku rockets

[bronze edge]

lol

[digital prairie]

and here i thought Hipper was the only crusier with a horrible engine

[digital prairie]

@bronze edge what i did that game

no damage to DDs

[unkempt mantle]

I take Fragile Threat bc DDs have such low HP you dont typically last long anyway unless your enemy is either dumb or unlucky with dispersion

[main depot]

Are you insane?

[unkempt mantle]

Yes

[main depot]

Don't use Fragile Threat, ever. And always use Sims.

[unkempt mantle]

The battleship commander...?

do you mean as inspiration or as the main commander?

[main depot]

Inspiration for DDs

[bronze edge]

hmm crazy you got that high BXP then maybe it's the amount of targets? idk

[unkempt mantle]

ah

i normally use tanaka and either detectabiliy or other torpedo related commander for inspirations

[covert scroll]

Finally a shiny charizard

[wheat valley]

better than nothing and i was spamming all the time the smokes

[quartz mist]

too much blood = game death

[digital prairie]

i love the wows chat

[unkempt mantle]

[covert scroll]

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/527 nice ships

[digital prairie]

Love when people just ignore you

getting to sit in mid with a BB and just farm for free

[kind niche]

And now i have peak

[kind niche]

Okay this is alot to take in-

[ember lance]

ehh

rule the waves isnt hard

also set your research to max

12% is the max iirc

dont worry about the deficit

your government should increase it in a few turns

[lapis burrow]

sorry if thats the wrong channel to ask, but is it unusual to any WoWs player to have no hull class as ur main and can play any hull class warships like an all-arounder?

cuz for me, thats the case like i can play DDs, BBs, CVs, etc

[ember lance]

jack of all trades, master of none

[lapis burrow]

i mean the hull class that i least played is cruisers (and subs mainly bc i dont have any tier VI ship yet but ill get there when i have one)

[ember lance]

[rare steeple]

how much spaces does WoWs needs now guys? 100GB?

[unkempt mantle]

That's me
Except I'm jack of all trades, garbage at all

[kind niche]

Im more used to Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts so thats why i said its alot to take in, there's a bunch of new things

[digital prairie]

that's generally what people should do honestly

being able to play any class effectively lets you play against that class better, since you know generally what they are going to be doing

[keen crane]

idk erally

[clever terrace]

iirc 86.7 - 90 GB

might've gone up, idk

[flat bone]

sad cruiser main noises

[wheat valley]

On steam it says 63gb

[rare steeple]

i thought it was around 70-80

But man that's a lot of spaces

[wheat valley]

Indeed

[normal nymph]

Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts
Sovetsky Soyuz

[kind niche]

Boat

[bronze edge]

I had the St. Vincent (the lower of the two) complain to me the whole game XD

[wheat valley]

3mln pot damage on georgia

[ebon willow]

i used to play naval

but i play air now

[ember lance]

nothing more satisfying in war thunder naval other than your torps hit and kill someone

especially at top tier

[bronze edge]

very nice

[wheat valley]

yup somehow i lived with 5k hp

[bronze edge]

amazing things happen in pinata mode

[ebon willow]

fr

[lapis burrow]

almost gonna kill me and lose the war not if the time runs out and win by points yikessss
also not an impressive result btw

[covert scroll]

Over 300 bagons caught, 15 were shiny today is a good day

[keen crane]

yat sen on yat sen chat

truly blessed

[wheat valley]

based

would do the same thing if i have prinz eugen

[keen crane]

fr

sadly biscuit is on elbingbong

but fake cat fake cat

[clever terrace]

i have a grand total of zero AL commanders

because I could not bring myself to shell out last time there was a collab

mainly because I wasn't sure if I'd be playing more often for it to be worth

if I'd known what I do now (that I would be playing WoWS regularly)

would have probably gotten some

[keen crane]

theres always next time fren

[clever terrace]

ye

[keen crane]

chat would it be worth for the range commander skill or sumn else

idk

[clever terrace]

what's your stock range and how fast are your shells

[keen crane]

not its reload mod not range mod

[clever terrace]

1.4s reload
"reload mod"
what

anyways

i would take it just to have the ability to be an annoying little shit at longer ranges

[clever terrace]

well it

it's 1.2 seconds

[keen crane]

w/o it my reload is 1.6

[clever terrace]

oh

so it's 1.4 with it

[keen crane]

yes

[clever terrace]

mm

anyways I'd say take the skill

I like to keep my cruisers' range in the 15-18 km margin

[keen crane]

its a dd

[clever terrace]

oh

chat

I might be blind

I saw chinese ship and assumed Jinan

[keen crane]

well yatsen is trained for jinan

i just got premium pan asian bote

[clever terrace]

ayy

ok I'm conflicted now

[keen crane]

fake cat is on fake cat

[clever terrace]

do i hop on WT or WoWS

[keen crane]

wows better than wt

at least naval

[clever terrace]

yeah

b-but I don't get fed citadels!!!!

[keen crane]

im so close chat

[keen crane]

huh

[clever terrace]

im joking

it's a joke I like to make seeing as I get citadels like one in every 20 games or sum shit

unless I shoot a cruiser or play Enty (but then I drag the team down cus I'm a shit CV player)

[keen crane]

speaking of enty

[clever terrace]

see I trained Halsey for Yorktown for two reasons:
because I rarely ever put him on something that requires retraining
a friend irl really likes the ship herself, so

i am trying to improve my carrier skills just for him lmao

[keen crane]

yorky

i would play cv more but im shit at them

[clever terrace]

same

tragic

[lapis burrow]

i mean for me i would still need more time to get better

since i do play any hull class

and im not even at a month yet of experience

[keen crane]

i jsut cant aim very well

[clever terrace]

chat ima come clean

even though I have all these ships

like

[keen crane]

if you say subs im gonna find you

[clever terrace]

i only started playing like a year ago.

all these ships are from other friends who stopped playing

so they gave me their shit

I have my own account

[keen crane]

did they give u their login

or sumn

[clever terrace]

yeah...

[keen crane]

kek

based friends

[clever terrace]

I don't like playing on their accounts though

[keen crane]

fo they have thunderer

[clever terrace]

makes me feel like I don't belong

when I play on them

because I really don't

[keen crane]

am poopoo

[keen crane]

well lets look at it this way

they gave you their account login for reason

they probably quit wows right?

they just wanted you to have fun in ships

and if they come back they can login again

its more like borrowing

[clever terrace]

m

i have this issue

or skill

depends on context

that doesn't allow me to

"replace reality with thought"

my mind is too logical and too realistic

[keen crane]

felt lmao

[clever terrace]

i remember back when I had school

my parents would tell me, "ignore the annoyingly loud classmates and focus on your work"

like mf

i CAN'T

[keen crane]

i felt that on a personal level

[clever terrace]

adhd struggles much?

[keen crane]

but then i was able to zone out bc i had my phone

[clever terrace]

real

[keen crane]

literally most teachers didnt care

i got my work done and had decent grade regardless

[clever terrace]

i had this system with my uni profs

which was me recording the full length of class

every day

for review purposes

and all I'd have in my notebook was

[topic]: [file name] at [time]

worked really well

I still do this actually

for work meetings

[keen crane]

based

[clever terrace]

record that shit

[keen crane]

i was the type of adhd that was able to focus and unfocus on will basically

[clever terrace]

mine was "if I'm interested it works, if not you're outta luck"

[keen crane]

felt

[clever terrace]

if I was interested in a topic

nothing would stop me

if not

[keen crane]

its 50/50 of those 2

[clever terrace]

i just can't learn it

i dealt with it by simply being interested in everything on some level

[keen crane]

[clever terrace]

...

why?

i need help deciding what ship to play

so

can i get two numbers from 1 to 3 and 1 to 5

[keen crane]

2 and 1

[clever terrace]

japanese cruisers...

why

[keen crane]

which ones

[clever terrace]

well there's three I have in the two cruiser lines rn

Mogami, Myoko, and Gokase,

so Mogami gaming it is I suppose

oohh

or I could go with Takao/Atago

[keen crane]

onee-san will treat you right

[wheat valley]

49% and im still bad player

[keen crane]

then im more poopoo

[wheat valley]

we just have skill issue

[keen crane]

yeah

[wheat valley]

like yesterday i had full broadside bajie in pinata and i couldnt hit its citadel bruh

[clever terrace]

okay

let's see how we get on

off to a great start

unfortunate

killed by a GK ~16km out

the one time a German BB gets good dispersion 😭

[keen crane]

thats rng

[keen crane]

[clever terrace]

gonna try pinata hunt actually

have never seen this many BBs in queue

[clever terrace]

nearly 100 to 0'd the Shimanto, but she lived to the end of the game

Buffalo beached angled to me, but the citadels didn't kill

prob could've won if both those shots killed, but hey it was fun

aaand i got DC'd

pain

[main depot]

I have an 88% wr in Petro so far.

[digital prairie]

wow it only took them like a year and a half

[unkempt mantle]

Why would all DDs at least not have depth charges already

[digital prairie]

genuinely the most hated type of player

why do people do this

how is this fun for people

[clever terrace]

these are the kind of people whose kneecaps I'd genuinely break if I met them IRL

[wintry trail]

WG following historical details and the playerbase hate it

[unkempt mantle]

ah

kinda makes sense then

[clever terrace]

rate the build + recommendations? (Salem)

was thinking drop Superintendent for Heavy HE/SAP

since I am probably not gonna need four superheals considering what I am

not gonna need 5 charges of DFAA either

i mean i could see myself using four hydros, but it's far off

mainly because it's damn near impossible

[main depot]

I'd recommend Priority Target

And Outnumbered.

[clever terrace]

in exchange for what?

[main depot]

Yeet number 9 and 7

What is number 3?

[clever terrace]

Consumables Enhancements; +10 action time to radar/hydro/smoke/engine boost

[main depot]

Eh, I'd trade for PT personally.

[clever terrace]

so down Last Stand and Survivability Expert in exchange for Outnumbered and PT, yes?

[main depot]

Yep.

Could ditch Grease the Gears and SHAP for RPF or TGG.

[clever terrace]

i need GtG man my turn time is shit

28.7s

since I have the reload mod in slot 6

[main depot]

You'd never stand Legends Petro. 45s

[clever terrace]

god no

[main depot]

But yeah, keep SI if no consumables enhancements.

[clever terrace]

well this is what I've got now

[main depot]

Do you have enough for Outnumbered if you drop number 9?

[main depot]

Why number 8?

[clever terrace]

nope, if I drop 8 I do tho

[main depot]

What does 8 do?

[clever terrace]

Incoming Fire Alert; tells you if there's a salvo fired at you if it's from beyond 4.5 km

[main depot]

Eh, IFA isn't nearly as useful as PT or Outnumbered. Mostly cause PT gives you a decent idea of your impending doom.

[clever terrace]

Outnumbered's a hard skill to proc with my playstyle though...

[main depot]

It's a lot easier than you think.

It also doesn't include yourself in the requirement.

So a 2v2 can proc it. Or a 4v3

[clever terrace]

I'll start keeping track of how often I'm in a situation where it's useful before I make a commitment

[clever terrace]

if it don't work out I might go with any of these depending on what data I end up collecting

[wintry trail]

Semi light-house build

"If you have this, why you bought Salem" build

[bronze edge]

mino got to cook

[keen crane]

chat

do i get petro leg mod or save up

[bronze edge]

do you like you petro?

[keen crane]

yeah

but ive been eyeing colbert bc one of my clan mates wants to do double colbert div

and iwas like fuck it why not

[bronze edge]

up to you then

AP on petro with legmod becomes amazing, and but you give up 10k healable HP since you will lose 1 consumable

[keen crane]

true

true

and only like 2k more for stalin

[bronze edge]

depends on what you want, colbert can be a very fun farmer, but if you overextend/get caught off gaurd, getting devstruck is very possible.

[keen crane]

i perma broke a salems front gun and i laughed myself to death kek

[wintry trail]

Petro leg mod only useful for small scale battle like CB and ranked, up to you

And you need Kuznetsova to compensate the weakness that the mod brings up

[keen crane]

i hate renown

holy shit

everything breaks on her so easily

[wintry trail]

Get some, lose some

[keen crane]

anah my AA guns and torps were constanly being broken

my AA being perma broken

[wintry trail]

Who care about AA anyway

[keen crane]

mfw dfaa

[keen crane]

based

[bronze edge]

oh my

[keen crane]

what low tier does to a mf

i love running down agincourts

[bronze edge]

nah @keen crane this is what Low tier does

[keen crane]

[bronze edge]

over 5k bxp between the div at t6

[keen crane]

wowsa

[bronze edge]

ragnar is a lot of fun

10/10 would reccommend

[keen crane]

seems like fun

[bronze edge]

oh... right...

uh- uhh...

[keen crane]

your her

you balled too hard

[bronze edge]

[keen crane]

they were

"she'll never ball"

"OH SHIT SHE BALLIN"

fr fr

[bronze edge]

Danae had never felt so strong until that day ...

[keen crane]

i got dm kiev and alvaro

i love heals and hydro

[glad swan]

NMSI Petru, a ASW Destroyer in the Planinian Navy

[digital prairie]

what the titan doin

[clever terrace]

just BT things

[digital prairie]

almost won harder there

[bold rivet]

lol rekt

[sick skiff]

Somehow I feel many Gatchq players are being attacked by this

[clever terrace]

we love HSR

full of random shitposts

[clever terrace]

HAH

[clever terrace]

we are piling on the bomb kills

[acoustic ice]

boat

with crappy skin

[rocky swallow]

New Texas arrived

[ornate girder]

No Lappland?

[rocky swallow]

No

She a dog

[ornate girder]

Just wanted to ask because were Texas is there is she not far away

[covert scroll]

@wheat valley asymmetric battles are back 🙏

we are back in business

[coral needle]

Butter smooth landing

[clever terrace]

oh my god that IS smooth!

smooth moves

[half elbow]

I am impressed that you didn’t blow up from that

[clever terrace]

if my F-16, with gear down and going 50 km/h, explodes upon contact with a fence I think that should have killed him

but what can I say, they have the snail's blessing

[bronze edge]

@digital prairie

that poor man

[unkempt mantle]

Which plane is that?

[half elbow]

That’s what I’m saying

[clever terrace]

B-25

[clever terrace]

Gaijin consistency at it's finest.

[half elbow]

Yep basically none existent

[unkempt mantle]

ah
it and the B-34 look very similar so i get them confused

[wheat valley]

[digital prairie]

Should have just dodged smh

[half elbow]

That man is about to be wiped off the face of this planet

[clever terrace]

chat is he cooked?

i think he's cooked ngl

[clever terrace]

this guy was most certainly cooked

[wheat valley]

@covert scroll im cooking already with illinois

[covert scroll]

and im having fun with her sister

[wheat valley]

[covert scroll]

nice

[bronze edge]

oh yes.

[wheat valley]

nice

[covert scroll]

incomparable doing the work

[bronze edge]

I got to perma break the rear gun on a Monarch

[wheat valley]

btw what are these new tokens?

[bronze edge]

[bronze edge]

for the gacha event

[wheat valley]

kek

[bronze edge]

where you can roll for Chikuma II and Chikuma Golden and what not

you're talking about the golden week tokens right

[wheat valley]

the tokens that are in battlepass

[covert scroll]

Should be for the Wishing Wharf

which has been postponed

[wheat valley]

oh i see

[bronze edge]

wishing warf is that gacha event.

[wheat valley]

and with this i got my 59th karma

[covert scroll]

im kinda glad the schlieffen died

more meat

[clever terrace]

MIGHT have run headlong into the entire enemy team

minor mistake

[covert scroll]

Good match to end the night. Made some good money. Business is booming

[wheat valley]

Asym battle best mode

[clever terrace]

real

this is the shit

[bronze edge]

i will still continue to love randoms too much

But asym is alright

i think this was georgia using red boosters

Eco be funny

[plush charm]

Got encounter yesterday

[bronze edge]

worth the dubs?

[plush charm]

Its got horrible armor but other than that its good

10 second reload

Me suffering trying to get Bourgogne

Cause i like French bbs and ive mastered the alsace and republique

[covert scroll]

Yall ever get defeats like this?

[full sorrel]

A Nice graphic card

[ember lance]

Nice

[clever terrace]

halo 2 is two decades old this year

i feel old yall

[bronze edge]

it's worse when it's in randoms

but Asym i can immagine is quite tough

[open raptor]

He Needs A Nickname

[flat bone]

in monty i trust

[unkempt mantle]

Welp...

[kind nacelle]

flapless

[unkempt mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-anakin-skywalker-we-lost-something-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-gif-26130198

[covert scroll]

Bagon goes to the gym

[covert scroll]

omega axew

Bagon trashed mega charizard X ezpz

[clever terrace]

:)

[covert scroll]

merican firepower

[covert scroll]

well thats a wrap for tonight

[covert scroll]

nvm had to squeeze in another one

[wintry trail]

OG Buffalo with torps. and DM guns

[keen crane]

[keen crane]

[digital prairie]

the bots have learned how to sideclimb oh god

[plush charm]

Major dent in my des moines grind (screenshot wont work)

[clever terrace]

nice.

[flat bone]

https://tenor.com/view/lynndonia-josh-sunny-guns-pow-gif-21457983

shlem

[clever terrace]

I need to learn how to CV bruh

[bronze edge]

i can teach one day

if you're on NA

[clever terrace]

i have an an NA account, but I'm only at Langley over there, lmao

WoWS was one of those games I played on and off mainly through my wife's account, so when I decided I'd play it more as opposed to playing War Thunder all the time I made my own account

then a little after I did that, a friend gave me his EU account that he wasn't using anymore...

so yeah :)

here I am, someone who in my opinion has no right being in a T10, maining T10 ships

every lil' bit of advice is appreciated

[unkempt mantle]

CVs are fun and honestly I think the gameplay is good
||Until enemy DD decides you've had enough fun and torp rushes you||

[clever terrace]

did this to a Yorktown one time

we were winning and I ran his ass down in the Benson

[unkempt mantle]

I wish we had the Yorktown CVs

[clever terrace]

so real

[unkempt mantle]

We have Langley (III), Ranger (V), Lexington (VII), Saipan (VII P.), Midway (☆) and I think Independence as well, which is V premium i think

Lexi would be good if high tier wasn't about sniping the CV out of her spawn

[clever terrace]

RIP

oh btw

guess my repair time for this damage

[unkempt mantle]

25 seconds

[clever terrace]

Close

28 seconds lmao

[unkempt mantle]

Lol

Mechanics work overtime in WT

[clever terrace]

I bombed myself with two 2000 lb bombs

[unkempt mantle]

LOL

[clever terrace]

and the maintainers really said "yeah, that'll be 28 seconds"

[unkempt mantle]

The funny thing is that I literally rage quit wt for the third time like 6 hours ago

[clever terrace]

"in fact, we are so confident in our repairs we'll put your ordinance that technically exceeds the maximum allowed load for this aircraft 17 seconds before we repair it"

[unkempt mantle]

I can't do anything in ground or naval, and I can't do anything in air either unless I'm in a bomber

[unkempt mantle]

Wait does it actually?

What plane was that

[clever terrace]

yeah

A-1H Skyraider

[unkempt mantle]

Ah

[clever terrace]

anyways I can teach you some stuff

[unkempt mantle]

2 2ks on the skyraider doesn't seem wrong tho

[clever terrace]

that's the loadout

exceeds max permissible load by 8 kg

[unkempt mantle]

That would help
If the game wasn't Thanos snapped from my library

[clever terrace]

fair

[unkempt mantle]

Maybe when I inevitably reinstall it to suffer again

[clever terrace]

true true

[unkempt mantle]

It's just like 20x harder on console and add on top of that being a new player coming from arcade games into a game that's way more realistic

[clever terrace]

unlike WoWS I actually feel comfortable in WT's higher BRs

[unkempt mantle]

At least in WoWs I've never gotten one shot and had a sub 30s lifetime

[clever terrace]

SO REAL LMAO

i once had a match wherein I was sniped and killed out of spawn

Literally

I moved 50 meters and died

[unkempt mantle]

I will never play ground rb again bc that literally happened to me twice in the same game

[clever terrace]

thank fuck they fixed that map

well, "fixed"

[unkempt mantle]

I probably didn't go more than 30
I spawned, drove over a hill and my tank decided to spontaneously combust

[clever terrace]

just like Mutsu irl I suppose :)

[unkempt mantle]

LOL

[clever terrace]

vibin in port
detonate

[unkempt mantle]

Isn't one of her blown off turrets like a museum exhibit or something? I feel like I read that somewhere

[unkempt mantle]

Same with the USS Maine

[clever terrace]

yeah, it is

[clever terrace]

you said Maine and I immediately went to the WoWS Maine lmfao

[unkempt mantle]

Lol

[clever terrace]

the brainrot is real

[unkempt mantle]

Nah

[clever terrace]

it's 11 pm

[unkempt mantle]

The USS Maine was one of the causes of the Spanish-American war (I think)

It's almost 2AM for me lol

[clever terrace]

i got off work three hours ago due to having to supervise a hardware update/refresh

my eight-month-old daughter will inevitably wake me up in like two hours if I sleep now

Good thing it's a Friday

[unkempt mantle]

lol

i find it hilarious that the last screenshot i have of war thunder before i quit again is a screenshot of me in my B-25 looking down at 4 BF-109s and 2 Fw-190s

[clever terrace]

bruh lmao

[unkempt mantle]

anyway, heres this

19s

[clever terrace]

oh that's what happened

[unkempt mantle]

yeah

i didnt get very far lol

[clever terrace]

mid match or at the start

[unkempt mantle]

uh, kinda between

[clever terrace]

so early half of the game

[unkempt mantle]

my first was in the M8 HMC which lasted about 28s

so yeah technically the start lol

i lost both tanks in about a minute

[clever terrace]

did you go that same way in the Lee by any chance

that you did in the M8

[unkempt mantle]

no

different way

different spawn

same result unfortunately

[clever terrace]

frozen pass is a fair and balanced map

[unkempt mantle]

i wasnt aware fair and balanced were war thunder terms

[clever terrace]

That's trua actually

You have an excellent point there

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

tbh I don't even know how that happened lmao

[unkempt mantle]

i dont either

wt players are crazy man

[clever terrace]

like I know how and about where the shot was fired from

I just don't know how the devs don't fix these broken ass angles

cause that Lee death was approximately 45-55 seconds into a game

[unkempt mantle]

yeah

[clever terrace]

Panzer 3s can cover a fair bit of ground in that time

I hate this series of events

because the more I think about it

the more possible it sounds

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

which is fucking ridiculous

no way should this be happening

Gaijin has a history of making bad balancing decisions

like the revamped Sands of Sinai

You get the top spawn, hold your sniper hill that can see 85% of the map no problem

And you just win

[unkempt mantle]

lol

[clever terrace]

If the enemy plays it damn near perfectly they can win

But you on the north spawn can roll up to the hill, kill everyone, and by the time the enemy team's back in the fight you've gained half the map total

If you're fast enough, you can be spawncamping them in literally five minutes.

[unkempt mantle]

yeah, sometimes maps can be really biased

[clever terrace]

From a spot that they can't get you out of unless they use CAS.

and with the expected state of the enemy team, no one, and I mean no one, is going to have anywhere near enough SP for CAS

[unkempt mantle]

theres some baised maps on WoWs:L too

[clever terrace]

I don't doubt it lmao

[unkempt mantle]

i wish theyd bring the Atago commander back...
my ship just isnt complete without her

[clever terrace]

At least with the old Sands of Sinai the south spawn team could counter that sniper hill by heading east into the hills

[clever terrace]

wait what

wdym

genuinely curious now

[unkempt mantle]

they brought back all of the AL wave commanders in the 5th wave except Atago

[clever terrace]

bruuuuuuuuuuh

[unkempt mantle]

99% sure it was bc of what happened with her VA bc yostar pulled back the rights to the character, but ive seen a lot of people saying its bc she was OP and WG was waiting for a way to get rid of her, which i still dont see tbh

[clever terrace]

do the AL commanders in Legends have unique skills or smth?

[unkempt mantle]

well, i say a lot, its actually like 3

[clever terrace]

I see no way she'd be OP otherwise

[unkempt mantle]

compared to the hundreds of things ive seen saying its bc of her VA issue

and yes, they do

for example, AL NJ gets 15% extra citadel damage and extra damage for MB shells beyond 10km, and Collie gets (iirc) like 35% less reload time after the first salvo of the match and for every following third salvo

[clever terrace]

what the fuck

damn man

[unkempt mantle]

i believe i sent NJs skills in here somewhere

[clever terrace]

if our collab commanders had these skills we'd be playing such a different game

rn all they really are is voiceovers...

[unkempt mantle]

here we are @clever terrace

[clever terrace]

bro

[bronze edge]

even then.. just bomb the DD

[unkempt mantle]

i try

but bomb dispersion doenst cooperate sometimes

especially when you only have 2 on most CVs

[bronze edge]

unlucky moment

[covert scroll]

Ez

[clever terrace]

mfw I bomb a DD and get overpens because I'm playing Enterprise

"oh but that's fine, right? surely you took out their engine"

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[unkempt mantle]

me when i bomb a DD with Furious and all 8 bombs miss bc bomb dispersion sucks

[bronze edge]

oh you see.. take enty, use rockets, profit

[bronze edge]

well first of all you're playing furious XD, second of all, same thing rockets.

[clever terrace]

rockets are usually best against DDs right

[bronze edge]

(PC player's perspective [legends is a tad different])
in most cases yes. US carriers like Midway, United States, Essex, are kind of the exception with their bombs, as those tend to land on the DD and being HE hurt a lot. IJN you can use rockets but if you good at leading the torps or catch them in a spot where they can't turn out, your torpedos can be quite effective, same goes for Malta. British CVs at the higher tier, Audacious specifically [Eagle less so], have a tight rocket spread and a lot of rockets, which makes using them more viable over the bombs, but the bombs can be quite useful, but leading around 6 seconds of a requirement since how slow the British bombs drop.

[unkempt mantle]

yes
legends is very different

because we dont even have rockets

[bronze edge]

sounds like a rough existence

[unkempt mantle]

the best thing on legends for DDs is either german torpedoes bc of fast arming and higher speed, or get lucky with American HE bombs bc they do hurt if they hit

[unkempt mantle]

it is

unless youre either really good or just lucky, youll probably die if a DD decides to come after you

oh, i also forgot russian skip bombs
those are the destroyer destroyer on legends

but then again, theyre generally op in general, so

[clever terrace]

so
USN carriers = doesn't really matter what you use, they both hurt
IJN carriers + Malta = rockets usable, torps better if you're confident or they're trapped
high tier RN carriers = rockets, sounds like their bombs aren't great vs DDs because of their long fall time

...right?

[bronze edge]

isn't haku like also just broken on Legends?

or that's what Oxy told me

[unkempt mantle]

idk, i dont have her

i hear Saipan is the most op T7 for us but her stats are worse than Lexi's so idk about that

she doesnt have any big AA so her AA stat is only 57 which is pretty low
her bombs and torpedoes also dont do as much damage, while Lexis bombs do more damage and theres more of them, and more torp damage for 1 less torpedo than Saipan

[clever terrace]

mobility/concealment?

[bronze edge]

here let me make it a flow chart for you
US CVs:

• Rockets > about anything (Exception if you're using Tiny Tims which make it a little harder to strike DDs)
• Torpedoes > Cruisers, BB, other CV
• Bombs > bomb everything
  IJN CVs:
• Rockets > about anything, just be careful of the lead
• Torpedoes > about anything including DDs since they're fast speed
• Bombs > Since they're AP you're going to be using them on BBs and Cruisers mostly [more often CA's over CL's]
  RN CVs:
• Rockets > anything, good for starting fires, tight dispersion so good for DDs too
• Torpedoes > good for BBs and cruiser since flooding forcing a DCP. Imo the speed and the fact they converge in, makes going to DDs tough with them, but is doable
• Bombs > great fire starters, can bomb most things, fast small targets are tough, but doable

[clever terrace]

maybe faster recovery and launch times

[bronze edge]

I can do the German and Russian ones if you want

[clever terrace]

go for it

[unkempt mantle]

Saipan has 13.1km conceal/33.4kt speed
Lexi 12.8km conceal/33.4kt speed

[clever terrace]

what

[unkempt mantle]

but i also have concealment mod on Lexi and not Saipan, so Lexis isnt base

[clever terrace]

that does not make sense

[bronze edge]

Saipan does get Midway planes no?

[unkempt mantle]

uhhhhh

they both have SB2Cs i think

[bronze edge]

on PC that's her gimmick is T10 planes but low plane count

not sure what it is on legends tbh

[unkempt mantle]

yeah they both have Curtiss SB2Cs for dive bombers and torpedo bombers

[bronze edge]

hm not sure what her gimmick is then XD

[unkempt mantle]

Saipans planes have more HP than Lexis but somehow it doesnt feel like it

theyre also faster

which is funny considering its the same plane

[bronze edge]

WG math

[clever terrace]

yeah

[unkempt mantle]

WG math yes

where some 16 inch guns take 35 seconds to reload while others take 27 and somehow 18 inch guns reload faster

[clever terrace]

wows shipbuilder is telling me Midway's Corsairs and HVAR Bearcats carry 10 HVARs

[unkempt mantle]

Bearcats

[clever terrace]

less guns on the 18s, and for the 16s, different turrets/munitions handling

that's what I use to justify the varying reload times lmao

[unkempt mantle]

true ig

[bronze edge]

German CVs:

• Rockets > AP so cruiser broadsides are your best friend, thicker armored DDs can be a thing, but just focus cruisers with these
• Torpedoes > fast and go quick, so go for anything with these, especially DDs with no torp protection because these torps have low damage
• Bombs > AP and their drop seem kinda slow so lead, and go for either cruisers or battleships
  Northern Parliament CVs:
• Rockets > one massive squad with a hefty wind up so go for BBs or cruisers
• Torpedoes > one massive squad with a lot of torps, but they're slow so BBs or cruisers again
• Bombs > Parallel dive bombers [skip bombers lul], lead and drop, most effective on DDs and lighter cruisers, but don't be afraid to drop bigger targets with them

[unkempt mantle]

Plane kills brought to you, courtesy of the red, white, and blue

[bronze edge]

🇺🇸

[clever terrace]

I'm an arsonist, man

just sat behind an island for a solid two minutes spamming this poor Iowa with HE

he DCP'd the double fire I gave him

then myself and a Hindenburg gave him a permanent triple fire

[clever terrace]

needs more 5" imo

[unkempt mantle]

oh dont worry, its not maxed yet

one of the AA inspiration commanders is still only 8/0

or it might be 11/0

[clever terrace]

i see

[bronze edge]

oh AA?

[unkempt mantle]

no i was right, its 8/0

yeah

[bronze edge]

Ask Oxy about this Rochester AA build

[unkempt mantle]

AA Lexi meme build

[bronze edge]

IIRC he got like 1500 continuous AA dps XD

[unkempt mantle]

im gonna do the same for Atlanta when i get her

[clever terrace]

bruh 💀

[bronze edge]

Legends AA is slightly different from PC

Legends AA > focuses on the continuous and flak is kinda doo
PC AA > Flak focused and continuous is there for chip damage

[clever terrace]

i see

[unkempt mantle]

flak at low tiers is garbage, but i assure you flak at T7 definitely hurts

depending what it comes from ofc

[clever terrace]

speaking of flak in AA

[unkempt mantle]

AA Lexi clip inbound

[digital prairie]

Continuous will stop a follow up strike from the same squad while flak can stop a first strike

[clever terrace]

the Des Moines-class should have its main guns as part of the AA battery since they were designed for that IRL

[unkempt mantle]

our AA is also different in that PC AA targets a random plane each hit while ours targets one plane until its shot down, flak is the only thing that can hit the whole squad at the same time

[digital prairie]

That’s how it was when the rework first happened

[bronze edge]

true true, oxy says otherwise XD

[digital prairie]

Random plane damage has been gone for years now

[unkempt mantle]

ah i see

[bronze edge]

yeah Legends AA is kinda wack

[unkempt mantle]

i wish they would change Kagas squads tbh

8 planes, 2 4 plane attack squads

her planes are weak so you can only get one strike off and most of the time the second only has 2 planes when the first one hits

but i mean, 4 japanese torpedoes in one drop is pretty good, so

[digital prairie]

DEFAA Flak 100% stops squads if it hits

[bronze edge]

oh yes

[unkempt mantle]

bro what

[clever terrace]

before I forget, thoughts on Illinois

[unkempt mantle]

you cna take out a whole squad with one flak burst????

thats crazy

[digital prairie]

DEFAA magic

[bronze edge]

fun boat. A little rough at times

[digital prairie]

it's pretty strong in small gamemodes but i hate it in randoms

[bronze edge]

good for Asym

[unkempt mantle]

i think ive been cursed

[bronze edge]

Randoms Illi is fun, but yeah isn't all that good

[digital prairie]

the issue with Illinois is you have DM guns which you need to be close to use properly, but playing close enough in a BB do to that means you die

also Iowa's armor isn't that great, and you have less health than Iowa

so not really a good combo for being close up

[unkempt mantle]

i cant wait till i finish the Montana bureau

[digital prairie]

also something that's a trap on Illinois

don't take reload mod

it really needs accuracy mod

accuracy mod is the difference between hitting 2 shells average a salvo to hitting like 8

[clever terrace]

looking at wows shipbuilder and I see a lot of stray shells in Illinois' dispersion plot

def taking accuracy mod then lmao

[digital prairie]

yeah it doesn't have BC dispersion

it's full on BB dispersion pattern

[clever terrace]

😭

[digital prairie]

at least, i'm pretty sure it's BB disperion

certainly feels like it

[unkempt mantle]

Mamagi smashed

[clever terrace]

I was wondering about her since I really took a liking to Alaska

[covert scroll]

I think Illinois does have bc dispersion

18.5km but 203m dispersion

[bronze edge]

@digital prairie it's BC dispersion with i think 1.8 or 1.85 sigma which is why it feels like BB dispersiona at range

[clever terrace]

1.8 sigma

[covert scroll]

Yeah, Illinois uses BC dispersion since Thunderer uses it too

[clever terrace]

not sure whether to laugh or cry at this man

[bronze edge]

Illi is fun, but yeah tends to suffer and people tend to focus it out

idk my tinfoil hat theory is Yuro, since people saw the 3 man div and it running down flanks

people are like on a witch hunt for it XD

[unkempt mantle]

that video was epic though

[clever terrace]

yup

[clever terrace]

is he insane

[digital prairie]

glad i had to carry a shima with 250 bxp on a win

[bronze edge]

lol

[unkempt mantle]

[clever terrace]

random question; what gamemode do you recommend for me to just get the hang of playing CVs on my own

because I am seriously considering going into co-op battles rn

and I kinda don't wanna

[digital prairie]

operations

[clever terrace]

any particular reason?

[digital prairie]

target rich environment, and games last longer than coop

so plane conservation matters

[clever terrace]

I see

[bronze edge]

Operations yes

Asym no

PvP is a decent trial by fire

but 2/10 not fun

[clever terrace]

never playing Yorktown again

[teal sand]

bruh

[clever terrace]

👍

yeah fuck tiny tims

can't aim them to save my life lmao

[bronze edge]

it's such a fun bote tho

[bronze edge]

tims are so good what you on about

[wheat valley]

~~penetration ~~

[unkempt mantle]

multiple penetrations

[wheat valley]

[clever terrace]

it's my skill issue talking, I've hit a grand total of 9 out of 80 launched mainly because I'm either going after the wrong thing from the wrong angle and can't aim them well because of their long delay

and don't worry, I will be taking Yorktown out for many a battle more

WG please bring back the region migration

I beg

[bronze edge]

lol why

[clever terrace]

this account is the one that was given to me by a friend, so it's on EU

meaning I can't play with anyone I know that easily

because the one I made for myself is quite new

[bronze edge]

i mean

enjoy the grind

and learn the low tiers

helps ngl

[clever terrace]

thanks :)

I decided to stop at North Carolina for the BB line

[bronze edge]

NC is so much fun

[clever terrace]

Pensacola's been doing just fine as well

[bronze edge]

Ranger is rough Lexi is fun

[clever terrace]

I might be suffering a little with Langley lmao

[digital prairie]

i love how people call you a bot when you don't suicide rush into people

because i stayed back in a Moskva instead of pushing into a 3 way crossfire of two napolis, a GK and an Ohio apparently i'm bad

i simply do not understand these people

[clever terrace]

"just charge into certain death bro, you'll be fine trust"

seen my fair share of those in WT

[bronze edge]

suffer?

t4 has 0 AA

you like free farm

[clever terrace]

by suffer I mean emotional suffering

I don't feel like I do much

and i keep fucking missing

ik it's because USN airdropped torps are abysmal

but because I'm both committed to the USN tree and a perfectionist (especially when it comes to performance in games) I feel obligated to learn them early on

at work I ensure what I do is the absolute best I can give because I don't feel right otherwise

I did that in school as well

i'll quit yapping actually this must be getting annoying lmao

[digital prairie]

you need to learn crossdropping

now the guy in the clip like super fucked up and generally you won't hit the first drop

but it almost guarantees hitting the second one

[clever terrace]

yeah, I got to practice that a lot

especially with the Yorktown sisters' large torp bomber squadrons

[digital prairie]

it works really well on Hornet especially

because Hornet's torp arming range is so low

so either they turn and eat at least 2 torps or stay straight and eat 4 from the side

[wheat valley]

where are my ships

[clever terrace]

no

no botes for you :3

[wheat valley]

all ships that are spotted, the bots decide to target me

[unkempt mantle]

Carol my beloved

Got what I wanted, time to quit the game

[covert scroll]

so much fun

making almost a mil every game with Marlborough

[plush charm]

I love this thing

[clever terrace]

nuh uh, I've still gotta teach you

[unkempt mantle]

Ive got like 3 other people also trying to teach me

I think that makes me a lost cause tbh

[unkempt mantle]

This BF-109 flew around me until i dropped all of my bombs and then shot me down, instead of shooting me down immediately
I like that guy. Hes cool

[bronze edge]

narnia, fixed

[sharp rapids]

Felt bad for that l33

[bronze edge]

rood

[clever terrace]

look I drop Paveway IIIs (2000 lb guided bombs) on low tier vehicles all the time, this is nothing :)

[clever terrace]

He knows the pain

and no having three people trying to teach you does not make you a lost cause

it means you have three good people with too much time on their hands in your life

[sharp rapids]

I haven't played high tier in a couple months but to be fair I stopped playing wt

[balmy vault]

2 guys sleeping

[sage harness]

at this point this chat should be called wows and wt

[balmy vault]

Welp, The vast majority who play AL automatically play Wows or WT

[sage harness]

n o k i d d i n g

really surprising, the ship smashers also smash ships in other games

but just differently

[balmy vault]

Hahahahaha yes

[sage harness]

while im here and its the other games chat

i will utilize this chat by talking about a game i recently picked up called library of ruina

[balmy vault]

Great, what is this game about?!

[sage harness]

uhhhh

if you want me to explain the game

be prepared to listen for about

10 minutes minimum

[balmy vault]

Woow lol

[sage harness]

because i have to explain everything since its a sequel to a game

and theres also a trilogy

so then theres a game after that

[balmy vault]

There's a video on YouTube about it?!

[sage harness]

which i also need to kind of explain

[balmy vault]

Alright

[sage harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDhEYAOIle0

[balmy vault]

Thx for the video

[sage harness]

whoops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pGSE5YF5Ec

[balmy vault]

I'm going to see the first right now.

[sage harness]

oh yeah theres supposed to be a 3rd i think but i cant find it

i think he just might not have ever made a 3rd

cause this is only like

explaining up to urban nightmare

after that, theres star of the city [which good luck and suffer]

and then impuritas civitatis

which has a hell ton of lore in it

you also might need to know a bit about lobotomy corporation [the game that came before library of ruina] to know a bit about everything basically

oh yeah also the music is an absolute banger

definitely consider listening to it

[balmy vault]

I can see

The game looks amazing

[sage harness]

yeah it is

if you wanna suffer for a while of course

since some certain parts of the game heavily rely on getting lucky

oh also sometimes the difficulty spike is upright vertical

[balmy vault]

Ooof

[unkempt mantle]

Basically

[clever terrace]

teehee :)

[digital prairie]

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/528

I'm not sure how to feel about this tbh

there's some good changes but it makes CVs literally useless as the last ship alive

and of course the Russian CVs and ships with tac squads completely ignore some of the changes

[bronze edge]

Yeah CV's are toast

Was nice while they were good

[unkempt mantle]

uh oh
i dont play pc but what comes to pc will probably come to legends at some point...

[bronze edge]

ehh Legends isn't that demented and you don't have people whining about CVs 24/7

[unkempt mantle]

yes we do lol

look at the comment sections on the yt community posts for legends

its 90% complaints about CVs or anime commanders

also those changes suck

a major part of CV gameplay is spotting so they literally just removed like 70% of what CVs do

kinda dumb tbh

honestly

if i didnt know any better, id say theyre trying to make CVs unplayable

also why can they be spotted in their new high altitude mode but cant spot ships

like

how does the crew of a ship see high altitude planes but said planes cannot see massive ship

[bronze edge]

blindness i guess

[unkempt mantle]

lol

the game is now in late war mode, all the good pilots are gone so now theyve started training the blind to fly

i love that the new consumable named "active reconnaissance" (which involves spotting) shows nothing related to the word reconnassaince and also doesnt spot

what are you supposed to know from being within range of AA other than "dang i might lose my planes"

[bronze edge]

yep

[unkempt mantle]

also now the only planes that take AA damage are the ones in the attack squad
im not really sure how it is for yall, since pc has more CVs, but for us thats 2 planes for most CVs
and 2 planes will die fast

ok i kinda like this tbh

We're not done just yet! All surface ships will receive a new passive way to deal with enemy planes targeting you while there are planes in your AA zone. Passive increase is a meter that will charge up while your AA is shooting enemy aircraft. Your progress is not time-limited, meaning that even if your AA does not shoot enemy aircraft for a certain period of time, progress will stay the same and not decay. But once your progress reaches 100%, the passive increase will be automatically activated and you will receive the following perks for a period of time:

A bonus to AA damage.
A bonus to the damage caused by Active Concealment (formerly Priority Sector)
A reduction in Active Concealment cooldown.

its kinda like your AA gunners honing in their aim on enemy planes

although i would make it decay over time since obviously the squadron would either leave or be destroyed
and the passive increase is kinda weird
itd be cool to have it just kinda ramp up AA damage to a certain % over a certain time

anyway

im not trying to hate or anything, and i know i dont know much about PC, but this is just my opinion

it really seems to me like theyre trying to throw CVs away

[bronze edge]

it's people complaining about them too much and WG doubling down on subs

they're "nerfs" were uhh yeah nerfs

[unkempt mantle]

honestly i think the antishotgun thing they tried to do is good

but again, its only what, 3km?

anyway

[bronze edge]

anti shotgun gun

but the extra maneuverability

[unkempt mantle]

ill be quiet now so i dont make anyone upset bc tbh, i probably dont know what im talking about

[bronze edge]

i mean you're fairly on point

[unkempt mantle]

i want to work on New Mexico to get through the line for Montana but its 87F outside today which means its probably close to 93 in my room

which means im probably not going in my room until like 8 or 9 pm tonight

[bronze edge]

sounds like you live in Arizona or smth