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grizzled acorn
grizzled acorn
Kirei a great villain
pallid osprey
What a neutral party
Ender
What have you done
Oh my brain
This anime need an oscar
Wow
||Kotamine die||
||Lancer die||
||left Shinji with Rin||
Nice
grizzled acorn
||rin and shinji, eh? I ship it👍||
grizzled acorn
And you arent even at the end
All ive got to say is: keep watching
Hope you enjoy it
pallid osprey
Wtf
||Lancer still not die||
I dont care anyone said anything
This anime 10/10
SAO is the past now
Overlord is the past too
AoT is nothing
silver robin
This anime 10/10
dude that was me when i saw it the first time
its still way up there 
silver robin
You arent supposed to ask that until heavens feel
TRUE
pallid osprey
Gilgemash explain everything
Now I feel so smart after he done that
Man
||Shinji now is disgusting||
silver robin
he does worse things in heavens feel
or well, they go more into detail then cause it could have happened in the other 2 routes without them explaining it at all 
inner sphinx
Menacing!
slender skiff
This anime 10/10
Wait till you see zero
Nah just Billy the kid actually
Knew it was gonna be one cour
@echo river @echo quiver
So just spirit tortoise
I guess
S3 will be the ||isekai|| arc
queen canyon
echo river
https://twitter.com/AIR_News01/status/1505094591464149004
nice
3 BD instead of the usual 6
flat cedar
slender skiff
This anime is better than redo healer tho
that's not a high bar
echo quiver
how about redo healer season 1
i assume if it went downhill, then it was at least uphill once upon a time
slender skiff
i mean
what
wait what are you talking about
redo only had 1 season
and it's basically porn and revenge fantasy
badly written ones
stable herald
never knew i would see japanese being a tourist in a fantasy ver of Japan's "Edo-era" empire lol
LMAO
And this, the Fantasy ver of British empire
pallid osprey
i mean
I didn't expect this must plot twist in just fate ubw tho
Like everytime I think something will happen
It happen opposite
slender skiff
there's a reason it's rated 8+
pallid osprey
The fight between Emiya Shirou was not only about body, but also morale
The younger one try to beat itself in the future
The older one try to fix itself to the past
But there one think
That when Gilgamesh said
I see both Faker in font of my eyes?
Does it mean Shirou Noble Phantasm is copy skill?
Even I know they already explain that their NP is Unlimited blade works demension
Gilgemash NP probably his Treasure collection through Hero history
That's why he has every NP from others Servants
But I was right
Lancer is the coolest class
But there are some non-sense point even they already explain Ender
thorn briar
pallid osprey
Like Rider, Caster, Assassin(not sure) all disappear after master died. But Lancer and Archer not
But after all, Im not looking Caster with dirty eyes no more
thorn briar
pallid osprey
After acknowing her past and what her done
thorn briar
U saw how pretty caster is
pallid osprey
Yeah, I did expect she will be the prettest throught her mouth
The most fav in ubw prob Lancer even tho he doesnt have many scene
The most hate probably Gilgamesh
Cuz I dont know why why the fuck he has to blind that girl before kill?
What for?
Arrogant as fuk
thorn briar
||
grizzled acorn
What? Gil is awesome
pallid osprey
Damn
maybe I didn't reach his funny part
but I like the way he did to Shinji tho
grizzled acorn
hes funniest in zero, but i like him a lot in ubw too
silver robin
Pretty good
grizzled acorn
imo, zero is the best
pallid osprey
How good zero compare to heavens feel?
grizzled acorn
but you might not think so
pallid osprey
Nah if mc zero better than Shirou
grizzled acorn
he is
silver robin
yeah 
pallid osprey
Then I might enjoy Zero more
grizzled acorn
zero has a good mc
grizzled acorn
shirou is the mc in heavens feel
pallid osprey
Fuk
grizzled acorn
but they do him better in heavens feel
pallid osprey
Zero best then
grizzled acorn
you still gotta watch it first
pallid osprey
And then Grand Order
pallid osprey
I search Fate wiki and it has a lot of out side series
Like a lot
Kliede something
pallid osprey
grizzled acorn
its gonna be the gigguk video isnt it
im calling it, hes gonna send this https://youtu.be/UzNSWmokCdU
pallid osprey
Wait night
pallid osprey
Who was your best girl again
grizzled acorn
🤝
pallid osprey
Ender is red Saber in Apoc I think
silver robin
Isnt there like two red sabers
grizzled acorn
i thought he said melt
noo
theres a red saber (nero), and saber of red (mordred)
silver robin
grizzled acorn
saber of red is the apocrypha one
grizzled acorn
close enough
silver robin
grizzled acorn
ye
grizzled acorn
yes ik, prolly stay night
pallid osprey
Prob Apoc
silver robin
pallid osprey
If you talking anime plot then Stay night
But character power?
Idk
Lemme ask Ender
@slender skiff
grizzled acorn
actually, mordreds lore in fate is the same as actual arthurian legend
fought king arthur, died.
king arthur also died as a result, but thats because of some curse nonsense. she wins the 1v1
silver robin
stable herald
Oh god, i kept seeing people be using panels from the newest chapter of maou-sama retry!R
lol
as meme templete
wait, idk if its memeing, but also counted as...depicting your emotion throught it
like this
stable herald
the manga is decent
flat cedar
with that secondary player char aspect
pallid osprey
Whut
slender skiff
with curse bs mutual defeat
pallid osprey
slender skiff
mordred will never win a 1 on 1 with artoria
pallid osprey
Who is artoria
slender skiff
especially if NPs are used
pallid osprey
pallid osprey
That's king arthur real name?
slender skiff
female arthur = artoria
slender skiff
she does
outside of meme classes
she qualifies for lancer
which she is arguably even stronger in
grizzled acorn
artoria outside curse bs
i knew it
slender skiff
artoria has the better stats all around
and in a direct NP clash
excalibur would be stronger, but clarent has conceptual advantage
really, they are each other's conceptual weakness if anything
pallid osprey
artoria has the better stats all around
So can she defeat Gilgamesh?
pallid osprey
slender skiff
one of if not the strongest legitimately summonable servants
pallid osprey
So no one can kill Gil is confirmed?
slender skiff
if gil fights seriously
flat cedar
its why you target the summoner
slender skiff
only 1 servant can kill him
flat cedar
killer the weaker of the two
slender skiff
the thing is
slender skiff
gil wasn't going all out against berserker
and berserker is one of the strongest out there too
grizzled acorn
pallid osprey
But
Archer sacrified for him
And said
Defeat Gil
Is so it never come truth?
Thought the series gonna continue on the road till the they Shirou stronger and defeat Gil
Like what Archer tell him before he vanish under Gil blade
All just a joke
slender skiff
The thing is
Gil never takes him seriously
That's the only reason shirou has any chance of winning
Gil loses in every route because of his arrogance
echo quiver
does Gil power close to Demi-god or some shit?
he's actually fully human, but strong enough to rival demigods.
slender skiff
No
echo quiver
no?
echo quiver
The great half-god, half-human king of heros born from the union between the King of Uruk, Lugalbanda, and goddess Rimat-Ninsun.
huh
no one ever mentioned his parents
echo quiver
i mean
pallid osprey
Demigod vs human
echo quiver
at least he's not an actual god
slender skiff
Berserker is also a demi god...
Rider is a divine beast
Caster is a mage from the age of the gods
slender skiff
Lancer is ALSO a demi god
pallid osprey
How wonder Gil know alot
slender skiff
echo quiver
isn't rider a goddess?
slender skiff
Technically yes
pallid osprey
Everything behind Grail war
slender skiff
A fallen goddess
echo quiver
but not summoned as a full goddess
because that's illegal
most of the time, anyway
slender skiff
Gods can't be summoned
pallid osprey
But what class is Gil?
echo quiver
archa
slender skiff
Archer
echo quiver
slender skiff
Nah they do
echo quiver
dont worry, no one can really figure out how fate categorizes their shit either
sometimes it's just because
silver robin
Its only stay/night archer thats diff i think 
silver robin
echo quiver
^
pallid osprey
echo quiver
lore-wise, they're strong. are they actually strong? 
echo quiver
a good caster or archer can wipe the floor with a musclehead saber any day
but plot armor
pallid osprey
Lancer best class
echo quiver
echo quiver
it's fate
slender skiff
Even by fate standards
echo quiver
every war is unfair
slender skiff
It's unfair
Most of the servants are divine
Which means they're way stronger than a typical servant
echo quiver
gil is so strong that [REDACTED] and can even [REDACTED] when he feels like it
grizzled acorn
^^
echo quiver
yup
pallid osprey
echo quiver
echo river
echo quiver
satania is precious
slender skiff
Very much so
echo quiver
"what am i supposed to do with this disappointed dolphin?!"
slender skiff
As is vignette
grizzled acorn
raphi is best girl
grizzled acorn
one of my friends likes gabriel
echo quiver
she's had a total of 2 seconds of screentime across every single fate animation but
slender skiff
grizzled acorn
astolfo saber...
echo quiver
still best girl
grizzled acorn
👉 👈
echo quiver
actually, kiyo might be in carnival
pallid osprey
slender skiff
actually, kiyo might be in carnival
She's not
echo quiver
brb going to die
echo quiver
fun fact, the original carnival said it's a mysterious event that happens once every 10 years
and the second carnival aired 10 years after the first one
10/10 planning
which means next carnival in a decade or so from now
grizzled acorn
so true
thorn briar
grizzled acorn
slender skiff
So this kinda thing doesn't ya know
Happen
Fixed it anyways
Just say asap like everyone else does
pallid osprey
thorn briar
I'm always about to say something about fate but I remember yami is watching it so I stop 
grizzled acorn
gotta wait for this mf to finish it so we can talk about gilgamesh in all his glory
thorn briar
Best girl in fate Apocrypha
silver robin
flat cedar
oh
deft basin
that seems like a very premature claim
but also one that in my limited anime experience I could probably agree with
deft basin
I don't think any anime I've watched has made me smile consistently as much
granted I haven't watched that many, but still
unrelated but I'm gonna binge flcl alternative tomorrow night
I've been told it's bad nostalgia bait but I wanna see it for myself
grizzled acorn
if you like The Pillows, youll like it
flcl is honestly a glorified music video for them
deft basin
so basically I'm only gonna like the music about it
you know what, I can live with that
the pillows are fuckin great
grizzled acorn
well, i dont know about that
its been too long since ive watched flcl to remember whether it was good or not
flat cedar
deft basin
its been too long since ive watched flcl to remember whether it was good or not
well the original flcl is fantastic, the sequels... not so much from what I've heard
flat cedar
the sequels are a fuckin disaster
deft basin
I mean I'm still gonna watch them because I want to judge them myself
at least I get to see more of haruko's bass
I'd sell a kidney to have it irl
echo quiver
i dont like it when subtitlers get creative
like when they translate "thanks for the food" to "through the dark lord. amen"
oh, comments are also up in arms about that translation too lmao
thorn briar
echo quiver
took me until episode 8
but while satania was being smug, i realized she sounded identical to jahy
same va
grizzled acorn
like when they translate "thanks for the food" to "through the dark lord. amen"
i love translations like that
its goofy
thorn briar
I want a S2 of 86 
echo quiver
why is everything blurry and hard to see
halcyon dagger
too much weed
echo quiver
lmao, this was also my thought while watching the last episode of 86
marin has competition
my only complaint about the episode of 86 released today is that ||she's still a goddamn colonel||
slender skiff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XbGyJeDWWI <:NepSmug:839635014324322395>
It is gigguk
Though really there isn't much competition
I could see Shikimori put up a fight but that's about it
echo quiver
i thought that name looked familiar
echo quiver
i only nkow of them from the anime lifecycle video
echo quiver
wait, it's still alive?
slender skiff
S2 in summer yes
slender skiff
Well there's also kanokari s2
echo quiver
not sure if i want to see a season 2
slender skiff
But kanokari in 2022
Is
Hatamaou's strongest is what is being adapted for s2 imo
Ah
Wait (again)
There's... Cote
I do find it unlikely given the horikita obsession
But kei could steal the show
slender skiff
I mean
She took the title of best female character in the kono light novel ga sugoi awards from misaka mikoto
Which is... Quite the achievement
Unless
If this airs this year
I think Marin will be toppled
slender skiff
It depends on whether god of wholesomeness and diabetes will topple the queen of ero and moe
My bets on the diabetes
slender skiff
(though ero-kawaii will probably win)
Raphtalia has always been solid
But there is still kaguya
So
grizzled acorn
raphtalia is literally white bread
grizzled acorn
ive been a weeb for years but i still dont know what moe means
echo quiver
cute
grizzled acorn
ender enlighten me
echo quiver
ness
echo quiver
dont overthink it
slender skiff
Basically anything that makes you go
Ah that's cute/adorable
Goddammit
And maybe AAAAAAAAAA
*Not uogh
grizzled acorn
thank
slender skiff
The best example of moe imo
echo quiver
ah, yes, season 1
echo quiver
ah, yes, the legendary moe moe kyun
grizzled acorn
Mio
echo quiver
eyebrow girl
grizzled acorn
Mugi?
grizzled acorn
ah
echo quiver
gojo's innocence is precious
slender skiff
(he probably means mugi anyways)
echo quiver
nah, mio
slender skiff
Her VA (Yui)
Went from loodness incarnate (Momo)
To airheadedness incarnate (Yui)
To... Coolness incarnate? (Altair)
And then to useless goddess incarnate (ristarte)
silver robin
https://twitter.com/tenshisama_PR/status/1478343490568597506?t=fSgEMG3bHmbG7cK2I...
this is one of the best wn ever in my opinion
grizzled acorn
holy mikoto dominated almost a decade
slender skiff
The only reason she still isn't
Is because they nuked her from the list
As a hall of fame character
2nd this year is... siesta
From 3rd
And then yukino is back on the list
slender skiff
I mean
Make a guess who's the 2nd female cote character on the list
You won't believe who it is
(also kei is best girl btw wut you on)
No it's not hori or sakayanagi
pallid osprey
Ender
grizzled acorn
Ideally its ichinose
pallid osprey
I have question
grizzled acorn
(also kei is best girl btw wut you on)
Not saying shes bad, i actually like kei, just like ichinose and sakayanagi more
grizzled acorn
Because illya is- wait is that spoiler? Have they explained that yet?
pallid osprey
I know Illya is just experiment
silver robin
well its spoiler to lurkers
slender skiff
Uh
silver robin
pallid osprey
But where do their family get the grail from
slender skiff
Think of it as
pallid osprey
I feel like I skip something in zero and now dont know how the fuck Gil know it
Even Caster dont know where the Grail is
grizzled acorn
Yeah zero will clear it up a little
pallid osprey
So I assume no servant know where is the grail is and how it works except Gil
pallid osprey
slender skiff
Pretty much
slender skiff
Gil only knows cos he's been around for a while
And frankly
It's explained more in the other fate stay night routes
echo quiver
gil does have one weakness tho
||his own hubris||
slender skiff
Not zero
slender skiff
God help you if you summon his best friend against him though
Literally god help you
Holy grail war will turn into ho god it's a wasteland
pallid osprey
I want to know on spoiler
slender skiff
His bestie is about as broken as he is
pallid osprey
Is Shinji still alive until heavens feel?
slender skiff
And not arrogant in the slightest
Just nearly impossible to summon
I actually forgot what happened to shinji in HF
Also they're different routes
So it's not until
pallid osprey
And not arrogant in the slightest
Just nearly impossible to summon
Does his bestie have any scene in fate series?
echo quiver
wasn't there the other one
slender skiff
Only FGO Babylonia
pallid osprey
pallid osprey
What class what power?
slender skiff
Lancer
slender skiff
Strange fake
echo quiver
||temple of time||
slender skiff
But strange fake is even more confusing
Temple of time doesn't count and you know it
echo quiver
pallid osprey
But one more
echo quiver
lancer is great class. full of cute girls
slender skiff
Enkidu power
echo quiver
slender skiff
Is basically
Create weapons out of the earth
Weapons as strong as the ones Gil throws out
pallid osprey
I thought Holy grail would be like the holy cup in the church. Why it is so disgusting when it combine with Shinji
slender skiff
Though it primarily uses chains as a means of attack
echo quiver
sky attribute, not earth
slender skiff
It's true power is to create weapons from the earth itself
That and well
The opposite of Gil's NP
pallid osprey
Should I call Holy Grail War is Unfair Demi god war?
grizzled acorn
where is strange fake in the timeline, ender?
far before the events of anything else?
slender skiff
Some time (10 years+) after an alternate 5th grail war
That or the 4th
It's after an alternate Fuyuuki grail war for sure
Because the ||mud|| is present
That and ||Waver has rider's catalyst||
slender skiff
For the Greek alphabet
echo quiver
sounds legit
slender skiff
Because he
Doesn't have a name
If you knew his true identity
You'd do spit take
slender skiff
Because it's so outlandish
grizzled acorn
slender skiff
||Remember Kerry having an female assistant? Sigma is her child||
I hope you aren't drinking any water
grizzled acorn
ider who Kerry is
echo quiver
sigma > greek alphabet > greek > ancient greece > greek myths > heracles > basaka > illya
slender skiff
70 years after the 3rd is 10 years after the 5th
echo quiver
Q.E.D.
slender skiff
Kerry is Kiritsugu
slender skiff
sigma > greek alphabet > greek > ancient greece > greek myths > heracles > basa...
That logic would work if not for the fact rider is also greek
grizzled acorn
ok so the strange fake grail war is a spinoff after the one in zero?
slender skiff
I would say after the one in stay/night
But it's very vague
All we know is that waver has definitely gone through one
...mind you, waver also has rider's catalyst in apocrypha
Which makes even less sense
grizzled acorn
well apocrypha is quite a bit after stay night
grizzled acorn
i think of it is as such
slender skiff
It isn't
Apocrypha can only happen if the Einzberns summoned ||ruler|| instead of ||avenger|| in the 3rd
grizzled acorn
my monkey brain puts fate timeline as zero -> stay night -> spins off towards el mellois case files -> apocrypha
slender skiff
Case files takes place before the 5th
grizzled acorn
yeah, apocrypha is the 5th, right?
slender skiff
Apocrypha can only happen if the Einzberns summoned ||ruler|| instead of ||aveng...
Apocrypha is the same time as the 5th, assuming this condition is fulfilled
grizzled acorn
wait is the fifth grail war stay night?
slender skiff
Yes
slender skiff
4th is zero
Third is the war before zero
2nd and 1st can be ignored since they never worked
...unless you're talking about the prototype timeline
But that's an even larger can of worms
grizzled acorn
Fate lore 
slender skiff
It is
grizzled acorn
yes
grizzled acorn
i was boutta ask where GoS fits in lmao
slender skiff
Or tsukihime
GoS has one common character
Between Tsukihime, itself and Fate Stay Night
grizzled acorn
Dio Brando?
slender skiff
...and Mahoutsukai no Yoru
...and case files really
Though the character only appears at the epilogue of HF
Namely the doll/puppet master, Touko Aozaki
warm cobalt
slender skiff
She's the one that ||replaces shirou's arm|| after HF
I'm not sure where it fits on the time scale though
grizzled acorn
wait so in the nasuverse, does Mahoutsukai no Yoru come before GoS?
slender skiff
Quite sure it's before
I'm not sure how long though
Heck, even extra has touko and aoko
What the hell
(aoko is shiki's master in tsukihime)
grizzled acorn
maybe she is Nasu's favorite character?
slender skiff
Nah nasu's favourite character is medb
grizzled acorn
based
slender skiff
As of now at least
grizzled acorn
unexpected, but i respect it
slender skiff
It's a headache and a half
slender skiff
my god fate is confusing
Just grand order itself is confusing enough
flat cedar
I already mentally checked out
slender skiff
If you were to plot out every event and story of grand order
It would be larger than the rest of the nasuverse
(probably)
God knows how big the iceberg is
grizzled acorn
i believe it
its not over yet either, so by the time it finishes, it definitely will be
slender skiff
Even if you limit to main story
It's several times larger than the main stay night timeline itself
pallid osprey
Why do I feel like everyone fight is better than Saber fight in ubw?
slender skiff
Since grand order primarily functions on time travel
I mean
Honestly speaking
Saber is one of the weaker ones in the war
grizzled acorn
then theres the 1.5 singularities and lostbelts which are the same size as the main fgo story, roughly
pallid osprey
Saber is one of the weaker ones in the war
slender skiff
Strictly speaking at least
pallid osprey
And you said Saber has greatest stats
grizzled acorn
she does
pallid osprey
slender skiff
She still wins the war in 2/3 routes
And in zero too... Sort of
It's because stay night is just that stacked
grizzled acorn
i wouldnt call her the weakest in the war, all of the servants are op in their respective manner
slender skiff
In terms of servants
In combat, out of the non-HF characters
The weakest is probably caster
slender skiff
But even caster is
Actually REALLY strong for a caster
Like she's one of the strongest possible casters out there
Most casters have no strong means of direct offensive play
FSN Caster does
grizzled acorn
like major spoiler btw yami do not click ||in zero the caster literally required the attention of every other servant in the war, like, gilles was so op||
slender skiff
And very strong ones at that
pallid osprey
I mean after what caster done Rin just get close and hit her like 3 times then she be out of control
Wwow
slender skiff
Honestly, it's more that ||zero's caster went rogue||
He's not that strong
Especially when compared to fsn caster
Most casters are support based
Their damage is done with summons or traps
This goes the case with Zero's caster
grizzled acorn
well, yeah
slender skiff
Apoc's caster of black is also summon based
grizzled acorn
in a 1v1 right off the bat they straight lose
pallid osprey
Is Ea the strongest NP Gil has?
slender skiff
Strongest NP in fate
pallid osprey
What it does?
slender skiff
...ok not really
Strongest NP of a legitimately summonable servant
In complicated terms
"Return the world to genesis"
In simple terms
"Make it so that the world goes back to how it was when it was first formed"
grizzled acorn
it go mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
grizzled acorn
whats the strongest np out of the non summonable servants
slender skiff
Probably mahapralaya
Arjuna alter in fgo
It's on another scale even when compared to ea
grizzled acorn
does it do exactly what it looks like it does?
slender skiff
Yes
pallid osprey
So Shirou cannot copy the Ea?
slender skiff
Basically
Shirou literally doesn't have the brain to copy it
He cannot process it
slender skiff
No as in
pallid osprey
Rin carry team
slender skiff
Ea is never fully explained
grizzled acorn
rin carry team
slender skiff
In any story
pallid osprey
pallid osprey
I just wonder
He literately have Np to kill everyone on the earth
Why he need holy grail
slender skiff
He won't ever do that though
pallid osprey
grizzled acorn
need the Gilgamesh light novel fr fr 🙏
pallid osprey
He has power to do that, why need Holy grail?
grizzled acorn
it would be boring if he did that
slender skiff
(In fact)
grizzled acorn
boring for him. not the viewer. to clarify
slender skiff
Gil sees the grail as something rightfully his
So he wants it back
The end
Ok no not really
He genuinely doesn't really need it though
pallid osprey
That what Im saying
slender skiff
He can't
pallid osprey
grizzled acorn
its just a planet reset button
grizzled acorn
doesnt grant you the ability to do anything
echo quiver
ea doesn't actually indiscriminately destroy the world
gil just doesn't use it because no one is worth using it on
well
pallid osprey
gil just doesn't use it because no one is worth using it on
echo quiver
except when ||he actually realizes he needs it but then he gets stopped before he could grab it||
slender skiff
Not the whole world
echo quiver
in related news
kiyo has exactly 3 seconds of screentime. well, give or take 1 second.
sleeping kiyo
echo quiver
kinda spoilers
slender skiff
Destroys the universe
echo quiver
slender skiff
In short
slender skiff
That's why I used the word legitimately summonable
slender skiff
Because the character in question has the power of 99% of the gods in the Hindu pantheon
echo quiver
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pallid osprey
You cant summon god as servant
grizzled acorn
