anime-manga

[slender skiff]

gil appears

[echo quiver]

the plot is that you get sent to prison

[slender skiff]

in shota form

[grizzled acorn]

all i remember is hating not child gilgamesh

the woman

[slender skiff]

and him getting pissed is glorious to see

angelica

all you need to know

[thorn briar]

Gil shota form was funny

[slender skiff]

is good old shirou appears at the end

and saves the day

then he almost dies and rin does the exact same thing she did at the start of stay night to save him

oath under the snow explains the story behind him being captured and really about the miyuverse itself

[grizzled acorn]

ender who is best fate girl?

[slender skiff]

that's a tough one

[thorn briar]

I don't like shirou, I only like the shirou in fate Apocrypha

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

nah man

miyuverse shirou

is an absolute chad

makes all the other shirous look in comparison

[grizzled acorn]

i heard that

[thorn briar]

[grizzled acorn]

i dont like shirou muchb

[slender skiff]

i mean

i don't either

[grizzled acorn]

🤝

[thorn briar]

Who likes shirou when we have rin

[slender skiff]

but man

miyuverse shirou really

btw if you're in asia

you can find 3rei on youtube legally

[thorn briar]

[grizzled acorn]

based

[thorn briar]

Didn't know about that

[slender skiff]

https://youtu.be/Tbr6wmAth6Q

for a short video

on miyuverse shirou

title doesn't spoil anything i assure you

[thorn briar]

Isn't shirou miyu's brother

[slender skiff]

...yes

and no

depends on the context

miyuverse shirou is miyu's adopted brother yes

but no matter

kaleid itself needs it's own timeline

[slender skiff]

how far in the nasuverse do you want me give an answer

and best in terms of what

my favourite?

or story

[grizzled acorn]

your favorite

for story its probably sakura

[slender skiff]

Meltryllis

[grizzled acorn]

is she in anything besides fgo?

[slender skiff]

she's not from fgo so yes

she's from fate extra ccc

though there she's antagonistic

[grizzled acorn]

thats the game right?

[slender skiff]

yes

[grizzled acorn]

i havent touched those

[slender skiff]

ccc doesn't have an official english port

[grizzled acorn]

idk, shes in fgo, thats all i know her from

[slender skiff]

though

melt only became ABSURDLY popular after her event in FGO

after which her popularity skyrocketed

doesn't help she's voiced by hayami saori

if within just stay night

best written is probably rin

[grizzled acorn]

🤝

[echo quiver]

[grizzled acorn]

rin is best girl for me

[slender skiff]

sakura honestly...

how do i say this

HF has a lot of great moments

the most

but

there's a reason it's a movie trilogy

not an anime

not cause of the sex scene that is demanded by the story no

(lol)

it's cos HF isn't very well written

it was clearly thrown on at the end of the project in order to give focus to characters that were never properly developed in the past routes

namely, rider, sakura, kirei... and technically illya

[grizzled acorn]

the narrative for HF is less well written, but the character writing is better

imo

[slender skiff]

that's why the most OP cast were killed early

seiba had enough focus in both routes so they sent her to the dark side

lancer played his short but crucial role in ubw but really he's too strong to keep alive

berserker is just too strong lul

archer got his time to shine in ubw duh

caster and (false) assassin got their chances in ubw

[ivory mauve]

[slender skiff]

rider was always killed off early lmao

[echo quiver]

lol, short

[slender skiff]

and gil had his time to shine

[echo quiver]

rip lancer lifespans

[slender skiff]

BRAVE SHIIIINE

the only lancer that lives long is karna in apoc

vlad also had a horrible death like diarmuid

[grizzled acorn]

cu lasted for a while in ubw

and he was a G in the route, love him

[slender skiff]

he lasted the longest in the og

ironically

[grizzled acorn]

i tend to purge the og from my mind

[slender skiff]

well

unless they make another fate anime

which frankly at this point

will probably be another fgo work

rather than an entirely new series like apoc

(well technically the case files OVA from new year eve is the most recent fate anime work but i digress)

[slender skiff]

...probably avalon le fae, if not atlantis+olympus

[grizzled acorn]

are they done with the camelot movies?

[slender skiff]

long ago

they even released the solomon movie a while back

[grizzled acorn]

oh real?

is it as bad as camelot?

[slender skiff]

same studio that did babylonia

not camelot

(cloverworks)

so it's beautifully animated

[grizzled acorn]

yeah but is the narrative good?

[slender skiff]

i mean

[grizzled acorn]

i didnt really like the babylonia series

[slender skiff]

all 3 were clearly made for

"fgo fans who are already aware of the story and want to see their favourite fights animated"

lol

babylonia was fine

camelot's issue is that it has almost the same amount of content as babylonia, except it had to be squished into 2 movies

instead of what

21 episodes

[grizzled acorn]

the fight scenes in babylonia anime were really underwhelming

that might just be me tho

[slender skiff]

compared to zero and co

definitely

ufotable fight scenes are just too good to compare

especially if HF is the ruler for comparison

HF is only beaten out by KnY Mugen Resshen Hen and KnY Yukaku Hen in terms of animation lmao

[grizzled acorn]

theres some other stuff that competes but my mind is blanking rn

[slender skiff]

the best fights in babylonia are probably ushi+leo vs gorgon, quetz vs tiamat and the final battle

[slender skiff]

i don't think mappa produced AoT can compete

[pallid osprey]

Oh shit

[slender skiff]

maybe if wit still did aot they would match

[pallid osprey]

I have gone for too long, where am at?

[slender skiff]

but frankly

kny yukaku hen isn't gonna be beaten for a while

[pallid osprey]

Hey Ender

Watch Evaganlion

[slender skiff]

assuming you mean evangelion, nah i just don't like mechas

[pallid osprey]

It is not only about mecha I swear

[grizzled acorn]

one piece wano arc compares with the animation

[pallid osprey]

The mecha % is like 20%

[grizzled acorn]

and mob psycho

[pallid osprey]

It's more deep than you think it is

[slender skiff]

babylonia isn't great in terms of animation

it's good

[pallid osprey]

But I would recommend wathc the remake version

[slender skiff]

cos c'mon it's cloverworks

[pallid osprey]

Not the original

[slender skiff]

but the action scenes aren't great

cloverworks never did too well with action scenes

stick to making SoL, cloverworks

no more TPN pls

[slender skiff]

with zero/ubw? yes

i think it's unfair to compare mob psycho to HF

cos HF is a movie

and not to mention

[grizzled acorn]

theres some shit in One Piece Wano that competes with HF i think

[slender skiff]

when they were made

ultimately

it doesn't matter

why?

kny exists

yukaku hen is a TV anime

and yet it slaps HF and mugen resshen even

and those are both movies

and they'll only continue to set the standard

[grizzled acorn]

i think HF is still better than KnY

[slender skiff]

for everyone to chase

[grizzled acorn]

animation wise too

[slender skiff]

first season?

i would say yes, HF is better

mugen resshen? around the same

the most recent season is honestly just too good

i tend to give them a lot of credit for the gorgeous animation

but what ufotable have always excelled with was dynamic camera angles in fight scenes

it's what wit picked up and used for AoT

except ufotable pioneered that 6-7 years before

https://youtu.be/B5JMZm5m1o8

[echo quiver]

shiki music intensifies

[slender skiff]

really what competition was there in 07 in terms of animation

[echo quiver]

music makes me feel like this is the most important fight ever

[slender skiff]

people still screw up CGI scenes today

[echo quiver]

insert overlord cgi

[slender skiff]

even the biggest names

like white fox who did a fine work with re:zero

produced the appalling s1 of arifureta

though it seems to have improved greatly with s2

the most recent instance of horrible cgi in droves is probably kumo desu ga nani ka
but given it's a no name studio we can probably overlook that much

...well

i forgot

there was one more

ex-arm

i actually had to look the name up

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/NgNXn7G9LZk3iwBjbEe5qM-T-Aoto6_2WwsI8G4HJWw/https/i.redd.it/6wvwij5792r61.png

had to search for this image i saved to remember the name

[slender skiff]

it is yuki kajiura
really the only music writer on the level of sawano

[echo quiver]

goddamn sawano

i was watching episode 2 of 86

music starts playing

"this is sawano isnt it"

music too recognizable

[grizzled acorn]

No way

[echo quiver]

overlord 3 had some of the most cutting edge cgi

[slender skiff]

overall tpn was rated higher

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6dwEjxgoEoZaoqB5JuY0JfFlieJp3BPwHljbFAgvdKM/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/749799482845298719/827849758763909120/FB_IMG_1617445135609.jpg

but there is this

[grizzled acorn]

Promised neverland doesnt deserve that 6

It massacred such a good show. 2/10

[slender skiff]

as of now

the score is

6.33 for redo

5.39 for tpn s2

[grizzled acorn]

W

[slender skiff]

ex-arm is 2.94

at least on mal

[grizzled acorn]

Exarm is the second easiest 1/10 ive ever given

But it was so bad it was enjoyable when watching with friends

[pallid osprey]

[slender skiff]

well

back to sleep

then more LNs tomorrow

[grizzled acorn]

oh

[echo quiver]

redo of healer? i heard awful things about it spiraling downwards

[grizzled acorn]

before you sleep, what are like, the best lns

[echo quiver]

although i also heard the same author wrote something good

[grizzled acorn]

the aristocrat one

this one

[echo quiver]

ah yeah

[keen ledge]

Yuuta copying Inumaki's ct was fucking badass,
Also this last panel is insane, rly excited to see their Domain Expansions

[slender skiff]

What genre

[grizzled acorn]

any

[slender skiff]

Classroom of the Elite is an obvious mention

[grizzled acorn]

im reading that one rn

[slender skiff]

It's one of the best selling LNs in Japan

[grizzled acorn]

its amazin g

[slender skiff]

If you want a more underground one

The Apothecary Diaries

Think hyouka, but set in ancient China

[keen ledge]

Also first time we get to see 3 Domain Expansions going at the same time

[slender skiff]

I say underground but it's very highly rated

Just not very popular

(hyouka, so mystery genre)

[grizzled acorn]

underground indeed

that one wasnt on my radar

[slender skiff]

For diabetes romance there is the Angel Next Door Spoils me Rotten
Unfortunately not too many volumes as of the moment but the few that are already out are so good

[grizzled acorn]

i actually saw a volume of that at a bookstore

[slender skiff]

For plain old fantasy, danmachi though that's already fairly well known

[grizzled acorn]

is it better than the anime? ive tried to watch it twice but just cant make myself get through ep 6

[slender skiff]

Danmachi anime isn't the best adapted

It's JC staff unfortunately

[echo quiver]

dont worry, i hate the anime too.

[slender skiff]

S1 crams like

5 volumes

[echo quiver]

i feel like the plot is too spread out

[slender skiff]

Into s1

Actually

[echo quiver]

yeah, that'll do it for you

[slender skiff]

S2 spreads 2.5 over 12 eps

S3 spreads 3 and is easily the best

Is is worth getting the way through?
Nah

[echo quiver]

it just feels too random

[slender skiff]

Just read the LN and watch S3 for the fight scenes

[grizzled acorn]

i didnt like Bell as an mc

[slender skiff]

Too naive?

That's probably most people's complains

[echo quiver]

and most of the conflicts feel too artificially created. only exist because people are stubborn

[slender skiff]

If you got to S3 though

Boi

It's a ride

[echo quiver]

"im friends with those people and we dont have to fight but we'll fight anyway for action scene reasons"

[grizzled acorn]

think ill skip over danmachi, hestia seems like the only character ill even somewhat like

[slender skiff]

Hestia is weak sauce

Admittedly Lili isn't great either

S3 throws everything out the window

From a hero to a villain

Fighting the person he admires (like real fighting)

All for the sake of his beliefs

[pallid osprey]

Hey Ender

I think you forgot to tell me

Some thing

[slender skiff]

S3 is considerably darker

Wat

Ok anyways if danmachi isn't up your alley

Then it's typical isekai hour again

[pallid osprey]

Im about to watch fate

[echo quiver]

ew

fate

[pallid osprey]

And when I look up

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

Mushoku is the obvious recommendation for isekai

Amazing anime, amazing novels

[grizzled acorn]

caught up on that one

[slender skiff]

I personally like realist hero a lot

Though it's a niche appeal

[grizzled acorn]

ender where are you in mushoku?

[slender skiff]

Eris is back

That says it all

[grizzled acorn]

i feel like it started falling off hard after begaritt arc

[slender skiff]

But yeah I personally enjoy realist hero

[echo quiver]

but eris pads her chest

[slender skiff]

It picks up once she returns

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

Not that eris

Though I do prefer that eris

[grizzled acorn]

^

[slender skiff]

Konosuba was great

[echo quiver]

doesn't matter

[grizzled acorn]

konosuba is awesome

[echo quiver]

all eris pads their chest

[grizzled acorn]

i should read that one

[echo quiver]

praise aqua

[grizzled acorn]

wiz best girl

[pallid osprey]

It list
Fate zero as ss1
Fate stay night as ss2
Fate ubw as ss3
Fate apo as ss4
Fate extra last encore as ss5
Fate Grand order as ss6
And there are 5 movies after that

[echo quiver]

i dont have an aqua scream emote

this is sad

[slender skiff]

Who the fuck gave you that

I warned you

[grizzled acorn]

thats where i am

[pallid osprey]

No

[slender skiff]

I seriously told you

[pallid osprey]

The website

[slender skiff]

Don't

[pallid osprey]

I watch

It list like that

[slender skiff]

Yes and it's so wrong

Because fate isn't even a linear timeline

[grizzled acorn]

no

stop

[echo quiver]

idk. i watched zero first and i liked it more than the other one

[pallid osprey]

You never mention fate stay night and fate grand ordor tho

[slender skiff]

Most anime only will say zero is better yes

I mentioned fate stay night

Like

A billion times

[grizzled acorn]

fate stay night is unlimited blade works and heavens feel

[slender skiff]

Fate grand order is an entirely separate continuity

As is last encore

[echo quiver]

you can skip encore and apoc

[slender skiff]

They're not even remotely related to the original series

[echo quiver]

people hate those so

[slender skiff]

Kaleid is even more related somehow

He's watched apoc

Somehow

[echo quiver]

im so sorry

[pallid osprey]

Here

[slender skiff]

Yes

[echo quiver]

the only thing i like about apoc

[slender skiff]

Because I said a dozen times

[echo quiver]

the only thing

are those cool knives

[slender skiff]

WATCH THOSE 3 FIRST

Then

If you like it enough

The rest

If you can't even get through those 3

Listing anything beyond is meaningless

Yami pls

[grizzled acorn]

upvote to everything ender said

[slender skiff]

It's not worth diving into any other fate anime otherwise

[echo quiver]

just watch zero and skip everything else

[grizzled acorn]

dw about that stuff until you get through ubw, zero, and hf

[slender skiff]

Just be a casual and stick to those 3

Zero on its own is pointless

[grizzled acorn]

^

[echo quiver]

lies

[grizzled acorn]

i got the entire fucking order before i started the series

it was just a headache honestly

[echo quiver]

i loved zero and it was the first exposure to fate i had

[slender skiff]

It's not nearly as good without context

[echo quiver]

you dont need context

it's fine on its own

[slender skiff]

You do if you want to properly enjoy it

[echo quiver]

are you implying i didn't enjoy it

[slender skiff]

Yes

Yes I am

[pallid osprey]

What is hf stand for again?

[slender skiff]

Heavens feel

[grizzled acorn]

heavens feel

[slender skiff]

Zero feels much more amazing after you compare it to ubw

Because not only do you have context

[grizzled acorn]

agreed

[slender skiff]

You're also shown the increase in standard

[grizzled acorn]

zero doesnt need context, but it does definitely improve the experience

[slender skiff]

I tried to start with zero first

It's a headache

Most of the stuff doesn't make much sense

[echo quiver]

zero is better without context. everything is a surprise

how doesn't it make sense tho

they explain everything

[slender skiff]

It doesn't

[echo quiver]

what part wouldn't make sense

[slender skiff]

I know because I tried to start with zero first

[pallid osprey]

Does fate heavens feel list as different name?

Cuz I cant find it

[slender skiff]

There is minimal explanation bout the war

[echo quiver]

7 mages group up and fight each other to get to the root

wait

there's more explanation in zero than the other works

[grizzled acorn]

are you on vrv or crunchyroll or something?

[echo quiver]

they explain the entire backstory

[grizzled acorn]

cause heavens feel isnt on any streaming services, to my knowledge

[slender skiff]

[pallid osprey]

Yeah

[grizzled acorn]

what

its on netflix, ender?

[pallid osprey]

Bruh

[slender skiff]

So is Babylonia

[grizzled acorn]

not there for me

[slender skiff]

And last encore

[grizzled acorn]

probably region locked

[echo quiver]

it might be on netflix according to my thing

[slender skiff]

Veepeen time

[grizzled acorn]

true

or pirate it, i will not elaborate

[slender skiff]

Cough

[echo quiver]

they mean pyrite

[pallid osprey]

Wait

Heavens feel is a movie?

[slender skiff]

3 of them yes

I said it like

5 times

[pallid osprey]

How wonder I cant find it as TV series

[grizzled acorn]

you cannot

[echo quiver]

i like this mal plugin i downloaded

even tells me where i can watch stuff on mal

weirdly enough, even supports anilist for some reason, despite being called a mal plugin

smh traitors

[grizzled acorn]

aqua whats your mal?

[echo quiver]

hmmm

good question

[pallid osprey]

Hey Ender

[echo quiver]

oh, it's my nam eon here

[pallid osprey]

Sorry just for confirm

[echo quiver]

https://myanimelist.net/profile/AquaDraco

mostly isekai trash

[slender skiff]

Right

I never finished my LN recommends

[grizzled acorn]

no favorites

ok bud

[slender skiff]

Realist hero for less action

[pallid osprey]

Ubw is tv series
Zero is tv series
Heavens feel are 3 movies?

[slender skiff]

Seirei Gensouki for action heavy isekai

[echo quiver]

favorites

[slender skiff]

Yes

[echo quiver]

what are those

[slender skiff]

Seirei Gensouki is by and far my favourite action isekai LN

[echo quiver]

oh, i just use mal to track which ones i watched already

[slender skiff]

[echo quiver]

sometimes i forget

[slender skiff]

Shame it had a poor anime

[grizzled acorn]

section below your stats, displayed like this

[echo quiver]

and it helps me find new anime since it marks the ones i finished by complete

idc enough to mark favorites

[slender skiff]

Yes

[grizzled acorn]

ender im not stalking you, however, what region are you? for fate related reasons

[pallid osprey]

Only watch ubw, dont watch stay night, correct?

[slender skiff]

Southeast Asia

More precisely Singapore

[grizzled acorn]

ok

[slender skiff]

Don't watch the 2006 one yes

[grizzled acorn]

now I can convince my anti pirate friend to watch hf

W

[slender skiff]

Wait is it not around in the US?

https://www.netflix.com/us/title/81021838?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=cp&vlang=en&clip=

[pallid osprey]

But what about the movie of ubw?

[slender skiff]

That's the link I got at least

[slender skiff]

THAT DOESNT EXIST

It doesn't exist.

There is no movie for ubw.

What are you talking about.

[pallid osprey]

Oh my brain

[slender skiff]

I did say earlier

[grizzled acorn]

Do you mean the 40 minute prologue episode?

[echo quiver]

1 hour 45

and it says movie in the name

[grizzled acorn]

That movie isnt real

👍

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

what i gave you was
Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works S1+2 first (note the 2014 anime not the movie)
Fate Zero S1+2
Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel 1-3 movies

[pallid osprey]

idk maybe this site list wrong

[slender skiff]

That movie isn't real

Because

It's utterly shit

That's why it was remade into a TV series by an entirely different studio

[pallid osprey]

[slender skiff]

It's unbelievably horrendous

[pallid osprey]

Got chu

[slender skiff]

It makes the 2006 TV series look excellent

Also early 2000s era animation in 2010 lul

[pallid osprey]

Here we go

After this my brain might explore

[grizzled acorn]

so you watching the prologue for ubw now?

the 40 min one

[pallid osprey]

Nu

[slender skiff]

Episode 0

[pallid osprey]

I watch the order Ender said

[slender skiff]

Should be the first episode

Of UBW

[echo quiver]

at least they got better

[grizzled acorn]

^^

[slender skiff]

Depends on the site you're watching it on

Deen exploded with konosuba yes

[grizzled acorn]

is episode one 40 minutes?

[pallid osprey]

There is no eps 0

[slender skiff]

Konosuba is amazingly well animated

[grizzled acorn]

i love konosuba

[echo quiver]

i still think it should have died after season 1

season 2 humor just... meh

[slender skiff]

The movie is worse

[echo quiver]

the...

movie...?

[slender skiff]

Cos animated by an entirely different studio

Yes

[echo quiver]

[grizzled acorn]

the movie was peak

:/

[slender skiff]

The movie where they go back to megumin's village

Only one memorable scene

In the entire movie

Ok no 2

One is the scene where he almost gets assaulted by orcs

[grizzled acorn]

nah

[slender skiff]

The other is

https://youtu.be/13PSUGF5S9g

That

[pallid osprey]

[slender skiff]

That is the only scene in the entire movie that could pass off as S1/S2 konosuba

[grizzled acorn]

the entire movie was great

this is slander

[slender skiff]

I dislike the movie for a simple reason

Not the studio

Not the animation

It's cos

They decided to make an anime original ending

That was shittier than the actual ending of the arc

In the LNs

The battling in the arc ends with komeko pressing the trigger

And ends on a flat note in typical konosuba fashion

[grizzled acorn]

i didnt read the ln yet so i cant compare

but i enjoyed it

[slender skiff]

The extra fight at the end with revived Hans and Sylvia was entirely anime original

I feel like

As epic as it was

It's... Not konosuba

Konosuba has always been about

Being disappointed at the most epic/tension raising moments

Not because they're bad

But because something comedic happens

And then your glorious fanfare leading to the battle

Ends with a whimper of a fart

Like say

The time when vania hijacked darkness

Joke was that he couldn't deal any real damage and that she seemed to enjoy being controlled

[echo quiver]

konosuba just bad luck simulator

bad luck for everyone involved

it's amazing their world isn't completely on fire at this point

[slender skiff]

If the movie ended with just

Instead of Kazuma pressing the trigger

Komeko did

Then I feel it would have been a more accurate interpretation

Instead we had an admittedly very fancy action sequence

But again, that's not what konosuba was ever about

[echo quiver]

all these isekais make me nervous. imagine being summoned to another world to save it and instead just failing spectacularly

[slender skiff]

To not spoil too much

Kazuma does actually save that world

And it's only after then

Sometime later

That he says

For the first time, aqua was actually... Cute

AND THE END

(I'm not kidding)

That's the end of the main series

[grizzled acorn]

i thought he ended up with megumin?

[echo quiver]

romance in my konosuba?

[slender skiff]

Actually

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

It's never stated in the main series whether he ends up with just megumin

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

In fact

While they do show that they are in... Sort of a relationship

Darkness is constantly trying to get in on the action

That's how the last chapter of the main konosuba series ends

(barring the epilogue)

The epilogue is just a silly scene with him and Eris

[ivory mauve]

Dad walks into his daughter's room late at night

The daughter

[echo quiver]

[thorn briar]

Why am I enjoying this

[ivory mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796

[echo quiver]

what is this. i need to know for research purposes

[thorn briar]

Gabriel dropout

I just started it today

[ivory mauve]

Pain

Angels are demons

[silver robin]

Ooh I've heard it's good

[grizzled acorn]

Gabriel dropout was my favorite show when i was new to anime

Still love it

[ivory mauve]

Demons are idiots

[echo quiver]

the first 3 minutes are suspiciously wholesome

oh

[ivory mauve]

Yeah

[pallid osprey]

Have enyone in here ever use projector to watch anime?

[thorn briar]

I haven't

[ivory mauve]

Yes

Back in highschool a P.E. teacher set up a movie day in the gymnasium

[pallid osprey]

No I mean at home like you in your room with your projector chilling all day with the unwatch anime list

[ivory mauve]

That's now in my bucket list

[solid nebula]

well if I had a projector I would

[ivory mauve]

Pretty cheap for about 50 to 70 usd

[inner sphinx]

[slender skiff]

Why?
I mean it's a good show

The angels are demonic but the demons are angelic

[thorn briar]

I just started it and I like what she's saying

[slender skiff]

That's basically the basis on which this show plays its jokes on

@echo quiver @silver robin btw ^

And you will also understand the reason for satania bulli memes

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

But truly best girl is vignette

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

Ok I think everyone has their favourites as one of the 3 besides Gabriel herself

[silver robin]

TRUE kekw

[ivory mauve]

@slender skiff nah angels are idiots

[slender skiff]

I mean

They all kinda are?

[silver robin]

isn't that the point of the show

like everyone is idiot

[slender skiff]

https://youtu.be/tTvDy9XaXrk

The face just sells it

[ivory mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-crit-role-cr-c1-liam-obrien-gif-16592430

[inner sphinx]

Lesson learned, don't get hooked into MMO

[thorn briar]

I just realised that 3 of my top waifus in anime are albedo , Lupusregina and esdeath

[ivory mauve]

Too late

[slender skiff]

Should I be concerned 2 of them are in overlord

And another one is kinda uh

Yeah

[thorn briar]

They all are strong which I like the most but their personalities are either sadistic or something else

[inner sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-black-halo-smiling-gif-15157919

[pallid osprey]

I kinda understand what you mean know Ender

the fate ubw start with a boy

the Apocrypha I watched start with no where

[warm cobalt]

@slender skiff synopsis is out
https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/322012000732/

overlord

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

Pretty much what I expected

[pallid osprey]

What did u expect

[slender skiff]

I mean for overlord

Lol

[pallid osprey]

[echo quiver]

cn voice actors in love of kill. what

maybe one day ill see an anime with english voice actors

[warm cobalt]

as expected

||Ainz visits elf kingfom along with elf siblings. slain theocracy feel threatened by the massive expansion of Sorcerer Kingdom, they planning on invading elf kingdom||

[echo quiver]

i find it hilarious when their english is awful, but then the other person is like, "wow, your english is flawless"

[pallid osprey]

Bruh

I thought Emiya was servant

turn out he is master

unexpected

[ivory mauve]

And servant

Was

[flat cedar]

keyword

WAS

[pallid osprey]

Rin best girl

Wait

If a master die

servant will disappear

but what if a servant die before master?

they can summon another servant?

or they continue the war by themself?

[ivory mauve]

https://youtu.be/ubs7ygfazlo

Lets goooo

[queen canyon]

someone re-created first encounter of gojo and juju scene

[ivory mauve]

Yes

Where at

[ivory mauve]

Bro sauce

That cosplay is top tier

[queen canyon]

no

[ivory mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-cat-cute-kitty-begging-gif-11691445

Nvm found it

Here it is

[warm cobalt]

@slender skiff

[stable herald]

lmao

[slender skiff]

[pallid osprey]

Hey Ender

[slender skiff]

*Disappear after some time
Mana heavy servants disappear immediately like berserkers, certain servants like archers can stay for a day or two

[pallid osprey]

Is there 7 classes total?

[warm cobalt]

[slender skiff]

Yesn't

In stay night and zero

Just 7

Yes

[pallid osprey]

Archer
lancer
Saber
Berserker
Rider
Assassin
Ruler?

[slender skiff]

Caster

Ruler is a non standard class

[pallid osprey]

Oh

fuck

[slender skiff]

Not part of the original 7

That's why I said apoc is not a good one to start with

[slender skiff]

They cannot, they will need to form a contract with a different servant

Or hijack one from another master

[pallid osprey]

The only two classes I dont understand are rider and caster

Like what are they good at?

[slender skiff]

Caster is defensive class usually

Extremely good at well magic

[pallid osprey]

Isn't that Master job?

[slender skiff]

Usually in terms of forming strongholds (like in this case the temple)

[pallid osprey]

like Master suppose to know magic

[slender skiff]

And usually support based

Medea is an exception

[pallid osprey]

So what Rider do?

[slender skiff]

Mobility

[silver robin]

they zoom

[slender skiff]

And usually

[pallid osprey]

[slender skiff]

Multiple noble phantasms

Riders are usually the fastest of the classes

[pallid osprey]

And they said

[slender skiff]

Well

[pallid osprey]

Berserker is the only class can beat 6 others classes at the same time?

[slender skiff]

Assassins are usually more agile in one in one

No

It's not so simple as that

[silver robin]

is it a spoiler if i spoil what happened in ubw ender

[slender skiff]

Yes

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

He's still watching

[silver robin]

fine

[pallid osprey]

Im at eps 3

:v

[silver robin]

it happens decently early anyway so hes gonna see it

soon i guess

[pallid osprey]

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

Let him watch it

Berserker is wel

[pallid osprey]

No just confused

[slender skiff]

This particular berserker is just borked

[pallid osprey]

Cuz the guy in the church said

[silver robin]

its hercles in ubw right

[slender skiff]

More power at the cost of sanity

THEN?

[silver robin]

or however you spell

[slender skiff]

Heracles/Hercules

[silver robin]

yes

that

[pallid osprey]

He said if you used all 3 commands, you lose the right to be Master and he can protect him until the war end

[silver robin]

yes thats correct

cause once hes not a master

hes a bystander

[pallid osprey]

But what if Master loss Servant?

[silver robin]

and therefore doesn't need to get involved

then he can bond with another servant

who lost their master

assuming he has one of those 3 commands still

[slender skiff]

Form a contract with a masterless servant

Or

Hijack another master's servant

[pallid osprey]

No like what if Master still alive and his Servant has been killed? like he himself have to fight the war with out servant?

[slender skiff]

The former happens in ubw

[silver robin]

ive never seen hijacking

oh wait

nvm

[slender skiff]

Sam

[silver robin]

heavens feel moment

[slender skiff]

Hijacking happens in EVERY route

AND zero

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

He is effectively out of the running unless he gets a new servant

That's all

[warm cobalt]

servant personality in Fate is weird

[silver robin]

fate lore moment

[pallid osprey]

That is rare cuz the masterless servant only appear when some Master give up their right to be Master

[slender skiff]

||Lancer is hijacked from his original master by Kirei in all 3 stay night||

[warm cobalt]

how come artoria allows shiro to do (redacted)

[pallid osprey]

What is Hijack mean?

[slender skiff]

||Kirei also hijacks Gil from Risei|| in zero

Steal

[silver robin]

oh right i remember now

[slender skiff]

Basically

[warm cobalt]

NTR

[pallid osprey]

Oh

[slender skiff]

Also works

[pallid osprey]

understood

[slender skiff]

If anything

It happens the most in ubw

Hijacking I mean

[silver robin]

yeah thats true

[pallid osprey]

mean steal?

[slender skiff]

Yes

[pallid osprey]

ok got chu

[pallid osprey]

I just need to understand that

but it really make sense when it explain everything in eps 2

[slender skiff]

Not gonna say how many times it happens but it does

[pallid osprey]

So how the fuck you support to know when you watch fate Zero first?

[slender skiff]

[pallid osprey]

Or fate stay night

[slender skiff]

Fate stay night explains it

In more detail if anything

Zero explains more of the politics and the origins of the war

[silver robin]

im not watching studio deen 2004

its already bad in 2020

[slender skiff]

*06

[silver robin]

same diff

[slender skiff]

04 is when the VN came out

[pallid osprey]

And back then Apocrypha aint explain notthing

[slender skiff]

Because apocrypha 100% assumes you've watched the previous series

[pallid osprey]

like just go on and fking fight

burh

So who is best girl in your opinion Ender?

[slender skiff]

In the stay night itself I'd say Rin or Seiba

Rin in terms of writing and character

[pallid osprey]

Oh

another Rin enjoyer

[slender skiff]

Seiba in terms of personal favourite

[pallid osprey]

Tbh I have impress in the first scene I saw Rin

she remind me of Asuka Langley

from Evangelion

Same hair

just different color

But astolfo best girl anyway

[silver robin]

i like rin too

[slender skiff]

Astolfo
Girl

[silver robin]

thats a guy

[pallid osprey]

best of the best

[silver robin]

[pallid osprey]

Proof?

[silver robin]

are saber and seiba different characters

[pallid osprey]

no proof all you said is bullshit

[slender skiff]

It's just a meme spelling

[slender skiff]

To indicate aoi saber

[pallid osprey]

Oh shit

[silver robin]

[pallid osprey]

my dream

[silver robin]

yami

[pallid osprey]

is gone

[slender skiff]

I mean

It's even explained IN apoc

[pallid osprey]

Nu

[slender skiff]

When Jeanne walks in on a naked astolfo

Who's talking to sieg

And she looks down

[silver robin]

[pallid osprey]

Probably cut scene

[slender skiff]

It's not actually

They don't show what she looks at

But it's quite obvious

[pallid osprey]

Maybe I was in the toilet when that part come

anyway

back to eps 4

[slender skiff]

Or rather

Astolfo walks in on their convo naked

https://youtu.be/sCaJiVuAvJM

It's a running joke in apoc

[pallid osprey]

Wtf

[slender skiff]

Jeanne always addresses astolfo with feminine pronouns

[pallid osprey]

my eyes

how can I unseen this

[slender skiff]

And so we have broken another poor innocent soul's heart

By revealing the trap card

[pallid osprey]

Best girl has gone

Time to simp Ruler

[silver robin]

whos ruler

[slender skiff]

I'm surprised you didn't know if anything
Astolfo is really famous as a trap

Probably the most famous

Sam

[pallid osprey]

Bruh

Sam

[slender skiff]

The question is not who's ruler

Which ruler

[pallid osprey]

what are you talking about

Jeanne D'ark

[slender skiff]

📏

[pallid osprey]

the ruler

[slender skiff]

This one?

Or

📐

That one

[pallid osprey]

[slender skiff]

Jokes aside

The question really is which ruler

Apoc has 2

Not one

[pallid osprey]

Maybe I should watch Apoc again

[slender skiff]

If you didn't know that then you haven't reached that point

[pallid osprey]

seem like I forgot everthin

[slender skiff]

Where it's revealed

Clearly

[pallid osprey]

It's been like 5 years since I watch Apoc

how do I suppose to remmember when it not even explain the plot

it just cool looking fight

fantasy thing

some nonsense conversation

all die

blue win

red lose

and a naked guy go on a date with Ruler

at the end

[slender skiff]

Anyways Jeanne

The og ruler

[pallid osprey]

Isn't she a saber in ubw?

[slender skiff]

No

Lol

[pallid osprey]

like the saber Im watching now

[slender skiff]

They're

[pallid osprey]

they look the same

[slender skiff]

Entirely different characters

[pallid osprey]

fuck

my brain

[slender skiff]

Yes they're not even remotely similar character wise

Appearance wise

Very very similar

[pallid osprey]

Time to reverse time line

[slender skiff]

A point that is played in fate zero

Saber is mistaken as Jeanne by another servant in zero

(She isn't Jeanne)

[pallid osprey]

Ender the spoiler