anime-manga

[quaint patrol]

rimuru's LN

[slender skiff]

Tensura LN art sucks

Or rather

Meme

[quaint patrol]

i said this

meme and cozy are like

different from high quality

[slender skiff]

Ehhh

Ok moving on

Cote

[quaint patrol]

sure ya

[slender skiff]

The manga is a meme

Lmfao

Like intentionally so

It feels like a shit post

[quaint patrol]

is that a good sort?

[slender skiff]

Well

I'd say good

Dude actually smiles

And cracks jokes

[somber relic]

I'm glad I've grown up for almost my entire life with normal novels with almost no illustrations, so I couldn't care less about illustration quality

However my prolem with most fantasy Japanese LN is

WHERE IS THE GODDAMN MAP ILLUSTRATION

[slender skiff]

[quaint patrol]

because the graduate into adventurer manga is a complete shitpost

[slender skiff]

Ikr

I am always grateful for map illustrations

[quaint patrol]

I dont often read maps myself

[somber relic]

be honest with me guys, among all of fantasy japs LN you already read, do they actually provide a fricking map at all

[quaint patrol]

i think mushoku and bookworm do

and those are the only two that stick

[slender skiff]

Mushoku yes

Bookworm yes

[quaint patrol]

it's very rare tho you're right

[slender skiff]

Here's one from another "infamous" isekai

Guess which one

(unlikely you'll guess)

[quaint patrol]

idk i was gonna guess overlord

[slender skiff]

Overlord has the slane theocracy instead

[somber relic]

this is a hilarious and a sad fact when a fucking FIGHTING manga have better map illustration than most goddamn JP LN

this is from a fighting manga when the arena place only changed for three or four times in the entire story

[slender skiff]

That is

Detailed alright

[slender skiff]

By the way

This is Isekai Smartphone

[quaint patrol]

wtf

[slender skiff]

Well the map wasn't so complicated initially

Due to plot reasons, 2 worlds collided and that's why we have this mess

[quaint patrol]

||like mushoku tensei||

[somber relic]

the manga

the prequel already got anime adaptation though idk how good the adaptation

[slender skiff]

This is the first map we got

From volume 11

[slender skiff]

This is from 24

[somber relic]

that's cool

[slender skiff]

And to think

It's from Isekai Smartphone

Of all things

[somber relic]

also I don't even want a detailed map, just give a simple map where the plot is happen

lot western fantasy novel have simplistic map design

[slender skiff]

And I thought them branching to mechas was wack enough

[somber relic]

and most of the time that's already enough to provide context for the story

[slender skiff]

Overlord doesn't have an official map iirc

[somber relic]

look at map of LOTR novel for example, it doesn't have lot of details

[slender skiff]

Though we can figure out most locations thanks to the story

Uhhh did we have a map for konosuba?

[somber relic]

oh yeah, btw better than most japanese fantasy manga as well

idk what is the problem between mangaka/japanese illustrator and map

whether they hate to draw it, JP reader simply don't care or both

[slender skiff]

Speaking of realist

Volume 2 map

[somber relic]

lol why don't they give us this in the manga

[slender skiff]

As opposed to well

Volume 17

After major political changes

[stable herald]

Gmorning

[somber relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXx16MWuXS4

Spirited Away theme song from YOASOBI's vocalist

[silver robin]

hi

[silver robin]

86 pogu

[slender skiff]

Hi

How goes the library

[silver robin]

so i got the books almost 2 weeks ago now

haven't opened any of them cause busy

[stable herald]

show

[quaint patrol]

lmao this story

8/11 "sword masters" were traitors already

[quaint patrol]

8/11 of the ones they met

[stable herald]

damn86

and arifuta

oh wait

Damn, arifureta is thicc book

[silver robin]

yes

also has thicc illustrations too

[stable herald]

More busty than Yue

[silver robin]

[stable herald]

[somber relic]

some of my books still in plastic wrap for half year

opened one of them and proceed to not read it anyway for four days already

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-11-27/teasing-master-takagi-san-manga-also-inspires-live-action-film-set-1-decade-later/.204868

LMAOOOOOOOO

[silver robin]

no

[somber relic]

probably already posted here but still

[silver robin]

please no

[somber relic]

[stable herald]

HER FOREHEAD IS NOT BIG ENUF

@plain garden

[slender skiff]

Funny you should say

She gets the ability to change the size of body proportions later so

[plain garden]

I was already aware of the live action

[stable herald]

WOAH

WOOAH

Imagine the possibilities

of each and every night

[slender skiff]

There's no need to imagine

It's spelled out

[silver robin]

its also volume 8 which is ironic in its own right

[stable herald]

lmao

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

So basically she's stolen Shea's proportions more than a few times

[silver robin]

theres also some side story where the cast swap bodies with each other

and yue gets kaori's body

[slender skiff]

I believe kaori ends up in Tio's

Hilariously

[silver robin]

yes

lol

[stable herald]

and whos tio ended in...

im worried bout that

[slender skiff]

Shea

[stable herald]

oh

[slender skiff]

[stable herald]

thats fine

lmao

We worry not for Shea

[slender skiff]

Shea was not fine

After she saw what Tio was trying to do

[silver robin]

yes

[stable herald]

oh damn

oh no

tell me

[plain garden]

Here anime mango, now I leave to never show up here till I get pinged or give my thoughts on how good or bad bocchi the rock is

[silver robin]

i have a bocchi the rock review you should read

give me one sec to pull it up

[plain garden]

I’ve never watched it

Planning to watch it

[stable herald]

Oh... I've read that manga b4

[silver robin]

don't worry its not spoiler ridden (i think)

[plain garden]

Which is what I’ve been telling myself the past couple weeks

Imma force myself to start it today

Maybe

[stable herald]

stop the maybe

[silver robin]

https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=467014 read this and don't look at the username of the person who wrote it

[plain garden]

After getting a raise at work there’s just been a lot more paperwork and stuff and I’m just real busy

Also idk, anime just hasn’t been as interesting to me in the last couple years

I just sorta stopped

What’s wrong with the guy being named yuni?

[silver robin]

your collegue is also named yuni

(its the same person)

unfortunately yuni has also been busy so hes been inactive

[plain garden]

[slender skiff]

Yes

It's the same yuni

[plain garden]

Imma go make fun of him

[slender skiff]

Bocchi the saiyan

Wait that's the wrong pic

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-super-saiyan-power-up-power-gif-5116508820802113508

That's bocchi the saiyan

[quaint patrol]

holy chads

[quaint patrol]

have u been following the manga?

[silver robin]

is that the orc series by mushoku author

[slender skiff]

Yes

Bocchi the Shinsengumi

[quaint patrol]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the mc and fmc finally fock

[slender skiff]

[somber relic]

yeah

[stable herald]

????????????????????????????????

[inner sphinx]

[slender skiff]

What on earth is that comment section

[somber relic]

weebs in youtube comment section trying to be funny moment

[slender skiff]

[somber relic]

oh yeah Ender, since I know you actually enjoyed reading 4-koma manga, try this

from Working!!'s author

[slender skiff]

Talk about dissing the competition

🥶

[whole berry]

Bruhhh finishing the latest novel and waiting for next translation makes me feel empty

[slender skiff]

Relatable

[weak glacier]

Would believe

[zinc lance]

read 30 novels in parallel, that way you have a chapter every day if they are monthlies

[stable herald]

HOLY SHIT ITS AN ACTUAL ONESHOT

Its always the guy that given up on their relationship as close friends when they were little, etc

smh..weak

[slender skiff]

Lucky Star

[stable herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czQGY0YHqkA

Why is this back in my recommendation idfk

but the dub is fuckin hilarious

[quaint patrol]

they were allowed to animate the asshole?

[zinc lance]

let the clone wars commence

yep, looks about right

[solemn pollen]

Fap it scans lol

[solemn pollen]

Does she have an account in Monaco by any chance I need to transfer a few things

[stable herald]

lmao

[silver robin]

hahahahahahahah....

[silver robin]

Its in dragon form so its fine

they probably showed it from the front angle though

[silver robin]

read chapter 1

||shes actually not committing tax evasion but she wants to hide her actual job from the mc so she came up with the first lie she could think of to distract the mc from thinking about her actual job||

[solemn pollen]

Smart

[trim swan]

gib sauce
I wanna girl commissioning tax evasion

[silver robin]

Thats literally the title

[silver robin]

This is literally the title

[trim swan]

oh it's a oneshot

[silver robin]

i thought there were like 4 chapters

am i trippin

i am trippin

dont mind me

[quaint patrol]

not terrorism

[thorn briar]

I have conan movie 26 and movie 19 and I will watch them later

[thorn briar]

When I already started forgetting about this , it appeared on twitter

That's about D.gray-man

[thorn briar]

I never thought that the order would use real human babies , well another reason for me to hate them more

I'm still mad at what they did in alma karma arc

And the fact that alma was the women that kanda loved

Alma ||died|| at the end , so kanda ||remained alone||

[silver robin]

spoiler

[thorn briar]

I watched this arc 4 years ago , is it a spoiler now

The werid thing is that I watched it and then went to my midterm exam and was about to cry cause i couldn't get over what happened

Why am I crying now after mentioning it

[silver robin]

Its a spoiler if you say it in a place where people who havent seen the series can see it

[cedar furnace]

I feel like I've seen this before

Found it

[thorn briar]

, and I did spoiler it now

[quaint patrol]

this is the original? because ive seen alot of parodies of this

[cedar furnace]

I dont get it

[cedar furnace]

Idk

[quaint patrol]

stark wants tank tops

or something

fern's reaction would be disgust in the manga though

so it's bad

[cedar furnace]

No the potion

[quaint patrol]

it's the clothing dissolving potion

[cedar furnace]

From what?

Also how would that even work?

It doesn't make any sense

[quaint patrol]

frieren has a clothing dissolving potion

She gifted it to fern in the anime

[cedar furnace]

Oh

[quaint patrol]

these are just fancomics since it exists

[cedar furnace]

So not the official thing?

[quaint patrol]

so you haven't read frieren

[silver robin]

Did the image send twice

discord is trolling me so idk

seven seas translated the honorifics should have expected it honestly

[cedar furnace]

No

[quaint patrol]

myne?

[silver robin]

one for propogation?

what does that mean

[quaint patrol]

proselytizing

[cedar furnace]

I got a question

Why are anime memes so bad

[quaint patrol]

depends on which and where

r/goodanimemes is 60% horny and 30% trash

r/animemes is idk, i quit after trap was banned

[cedar furnace]

Trap?

[cedar furnace]

In general

Like:

[quaint patrol]

isnt endo and kobayashi manga art just better than its LN art

[weak glacier]

Started watching king of the hill

funny af

[quaint patrol]

from the beginning?

[weak glacier]

"Detriot hasn't felt any pride after his trip to Japan" had me rolling

[weak glacier]

yep

I can relate to this show on a spiritual level

It takes place in my own state

I can relate to so many of the experiences

[flat cedar]

https://vxtwitter.com/ErogeAreAlive/status/1730213926619513298

[quaint patrol]

what artist was this again

i think these characters were from hibike euphonium

found this in my google photos from 2 years ago

[inner sphinx]

[quaint patrol]

is that the hero luck

[weak glacier]

I want to sell propane and propane accessories

Is it said I can understand what Boomhauer is saying?

[crisp talon]

|| Koko wa Ore ni Makasete Saki ni Ike to Itte kara 10-nen ga Tattara Densetsu ni Natte Ita. ||

[quaint patrol]

so it's luck

do otome games like this actually exist

are they still in production

[crisp talon]

[quaint patrol]

that's the alicia where she defies the otome game right

the shonen novel

[quaint patrol]

wowsers

[stable herald]

@ivory mauve

Holy shit itadori is a fucking tank

He made sukuna shakes by his punch

[quaint patrol]

sounds pretty true

if this FMC had more spite, I think I would like it more

[trim swan]

read it on tapas if you can
they've got some animated shit going on

tho they've only got till S1 iirc

haven't opened tapas in years

[slender skiff]

In honour of the great man

https://youtu.be/cSipD1ob-y0?si=10GwlyI2DIhvmNTv

[boreal oyster]

far from awful
rating : 1

definitely fmab fanbot

[slender skiff]

I mean

Maybe he's a time traveller

He's somehow watched all 28 episodes after all

[silver robin]

@slender skiff

[slender skiff]

Yes

Actually now that I think about it

Isn't kindergarten wars just Mika the series

[silver robin]

yesn't

[boreal oyster]

huh

toddlers at war?

[slender skiff]

Nah

It's more of the kindergarten has vvvip kids

That are at the threat of being killed

[trim swan]

that's.... worse

[slender skiff]

Well

Less killed

More kidnapped

[slender skiff]

So she's one of the teachers/guards

[silver robin]

it follows the bodyguards who protect the kindergarten from outside threats

the kids themselves are barely shown in the series

just give it a go

it got 3rd place in the recent next manga awards

[slender skiff]

Domekano in a nutshell

Where's that gigguk video

[slender skiff]

https://youtu.be/OFNKAONGsk4?si=eHa13MBjXLanVpu3

He couldn't even get through it with a straight face

[solid nebula]

ahhh domestic girlfriend

a genuine flustercluck

[stable herald]

What in the fuck

[zinc lance]

hmmm to sum it up, ALABAMAAAAAA

[woven marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-tom-hanks-alabama-army-soldier-gif-6181117

[quaint patrol]

shock value, the manhua

[cedar furnace]

and people actually like that stuff

[cedar furnace]

this is what i meant when i said that anime memes suck

[quaint patrol]

so i looked at the date of the photo and i thought

nah no way these were two years ago

these are new isekai right?

😭

[quaint patrol]

well it's domekano in particular

[cedar furnace]

huh

[quaint patrol]

it's just listing the storyline

lol

those two's family tree are fucked

[cedar furnace]

the first picture or the meme?

[quaint patrol]

the whole meme

it's literally just what happened

[cedar furnace]

oh

OOH

oh

ew

[quaint patrol]

it's domekano

[cedar furnace]

wait a mintue

domekano

domestic girlfriend

[quaint patrol]

that's right

[cedar furnace]

Oh shiiiit

it's that

[quaint patrol]

it took you awhile

[cedar furnace]

i dont understand japanese

[cedar furnace]

also that guy was right when he said that Japan is the Alabama of Asia

[quaint patrol]

pls stop the ping replies

unpinged replies pls

[quaint patrol]

idk, this is just content

[cedar furnace]

sorry

[quaint patrol]

there was this one short about interviewing some women

on how they felt about their husbands or boyfriends visiting brothels

and i cant tell or verify wtf is happening there

their culture is different

[cedar furnace]

but i think criticism of certain cultural practices isnt necessarily wrong

[quaint patrol]

Oh it's completely wrong

but im not engaging in it here

[cedar furnace]

fair

[quaint patrol]

idk i love this dialogue

spiteful fmcs are amazing

she's raising her favorability stat by being sadistic

[slender skiff]

Realist hero vol 18 is heeeere

Down with the fuuga

[quaint patrol]

i may have a type

[ivory mauve]

Playing hard mode

No extreme

[trim swan]

the guilt tripping gets overused at some point which made me dropped this series

I say that but the less frequent uploads were a major part in me dropping it

[quaint patrol]

the guilt tripping is overdone, but she's hot

[trim swan]

[quaint patrol]

but well

I dont think it's too overdone

not lile

her personality

maybe the centrality of it in every few chapters is too much?

but she lived through that for 10 years or what?

[trim swan]

she got reincarnated so not really

[quaint patrol]

so not really what

[trim swan]

not really lived through 10 years of whatever happened to the fmc

[quaint patrol]

I meant her original life

not her penelope life

[trim swan]

I forgot what happens before reincarnation

[quaint patrol]

penelope beta

[quaint patrol]

except her family never improved

[trim swan]

[quaint patrol]

if anything

her gaslighting of her slave is like

pretty uncomfortable

he's literally a pet

[slender skiff]

I've been cheated

IT WAS ONLY THE FIRST HALF AAAAAAAA

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

That said geezus
The set up is realz

Unfortunately there's no date for volume 19 even in JP

So I got a feeling ill be waiting here for a long ass time

[zinc lance]

u usually die

[whole berry]

same

[quaint patrol]

there needs to be more disrespectful and spiteful fmcs

[thorn briar]

Why are they naming shinchi in the volume as Jimmy

But , masumi's name is written without them changing anything

Wait who's Rachel wtf

The only Rachel I know in conan is wakasa, cause that's her real name

[thorn briar]

This is ran

[silver robin]

welcome to early 2000s localization

Where all japanese names got converted to english

another example is pokemon changing satoshi to ash

also quite a few other characters too

[signal grotto]

in fgo na, artoria is changed to altria for the localizations, just like shinichi is changed to jimmy in the 200s english localizations of detective conan

[slender skiff]

At least Artoria and Altria are close

[cedar furnace]

Yugioh still does it from time to time

So everyone was confused when I said Hermes and Zuzu have the same JP VA

I think there was a little artwork of it

Here it is
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1173763818493595668/image0.jpg?ex=657798bd&is=656523bd&hm=ca81af566424537a108cc69d00b730113c2c87f4d6392022aeec1a886c9bf981&

[boreal oyster]

wdym? this scene is canon

[quaint patrol]

this guy is becoming ultra yandere

this is scary

[inner sphinx]

Sonoko is Serena now

[thorn briar]

[inner sphinx]

Jirokichi is Sebastian

[thorn briar]

Isn't that sonoko's grandpa

Why change the name to something completely different

[cedar furnace]

that doesn't make it better

it's like when i asked if it's true that Rudias jerked off to his daughter

and someone said didn't and im like "oh so it was just a rumor"

but then he said "He jerked off to his niece!" and i was like "THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT BETTER!"

[thorn briar]

Good thing arabic dubs never changed thier names when they dubbed conan , they only changed a letter in some names to make it easier to pronunce

[cedar furnace]

tbh who gives a shit

[thorn briar]

Me

I'm mad that they changed the names in the English version

[cedar furnace]

why?

[thorn briar]

Cause I thought thier names would be the same

Not getting changed to completely something different

[cedar furnace]

ok even with yugioh it wasnt completely different

[boreal oyster]

don't be like weakstern
they just changing many names

Satoshi = ash ketchum lmao
wtf is ketchum

[cedar furnace]

for example Judai to Jaden isn't a major change

[thorn briar]

I watched yugioh with arabic dubs

[thorn briar]

What is weakstern

[thorn briar]

But , names are supposed to be written the same

[silver robin]

blame the marketers back then

[thorn briar]

Sorry, but the translator in me is starting to get mad

[silver robin]

ik

it makes me mad too

luckily that doesn't happen with modern shows for the most part

[thorn briar]

[boreal oyster]

west

[cedar furnace]

like i said. Rarely with yugioh

[boreal oyster]

rairly?

[cedar furnace]

rarely

[thorn briar]

[boreal oyster]

[cedar furnace]

im a historian not a spellman

[thorn briar]

Don't worry, I was just shocked with the names

[boreal oyster]

I'm a nobody

[thorn briar]

[boreal oyster]

now we're even

[thorn briar]

I'm still wondering why masumi's name wasn't changed

[boreal oyster]

still rememberable by the west

[thorn briar]

[silver robin]

the funny thing is in beyblade they didn't change the names

[cedar furnace]

interesting

[ivory mauve]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7t-0rLsaVng?si=7i4lUeiQbkv72FsM

[quaint patrol]

"reward: life"

[quaint patrol]

the web novel goes batshit off the rails

[cedar furnace]

Sounds like you're having a time

[quaint patrol]

lol i

keep going to source material after reading this manhua or manga

ending maker was really good web novel

this is just crazy and bit annoying

but ill keep reading it to the end

[boreal oyster]

which one tho

classic or beyblade moses one?

[inner sphinx]

Only 7k new FMAB members in the last 11 days?

[silver robin]

metal fusion

[boreal oyster]

oh moses Beyblade

[silver robin]

idk what that means

[cedar furnace]

I heard that that site is notorious for having a poor rating system

[inner sphinx]

memeanimelist

[somber relic]

https://tenor.com/view/beyblade-moses-anime-gif-15728025

[somber relic]

no it doesn't, it's just an occasional drama since around covid years for big anime hit in that season that want to dethroned the position of FMAB

started when one of weebtuber influencer tried to manipulate score for one anime title by using his follower for it

but aside that, the rating system is fine

though I will not suggest you to use MAL as reference for manga score

since most MAL user are anime-watcher only

and their database of asian comic (manga manhwa manhua) isn't even good to begin with

this is from someone who helping maintained manga & manhwa database in multiple sites for years

@silver robin

[weak glacier]

[starts speaking in a Morgan Freeman voice]

[weak glacier]

They are Japanese simps

They will literally get upset if you ask to have a non-Japanese produced show to be added

[somber relic]

no they are more like anime-hardliner people, they do have decent database for donghua (chinese anime) as well

[weak glacier]

Even if the style is very anime

[somber relic]

they just don't really care about asian comics

[weak glacier]

I don't like these "databases"

It's a boy's club

[somber relic]

what

[weak glacier]

They get very pretentious on how they label things

[somber relic]

you can say that until you realize how important consistency is

[weak glacier]

Funny thing is, there is no consistency

[somber relic]

elaborate then

[weak glacier]

MAL ratings favors newer anime, they exclude any non-Japanese produce anime (as far as I am aware)

[somber relic]

why are you talking about rating when you just talked about label before lol

rating are user-based

label like genre, tag etc, maintained by mod and data contributor/data mod

[weak glacier]

And you ignored the second part

They heavily favor japan over everything else

[somber relic]

oh yeah for that part, that's for the sake of consistency, becuause otherwise every ppl will try to submit any animated western stuff

and it's just impossible to make standard how an animation product looks like "anime"

[weak glacier]

Funny thing is, Toei animated a lot of cartoons in America

[somber relic]

especially when you can find some japan anime which use unique style and don't looks like your conventional anime

[weak glacier]

So does that make them anime?

[somber relic]

not Japan, but asian animation (japan korea chinese)

at least what you said above is misinformation

[weak glacier]

Majority of it favors Japan

I mean, it is myanimelist

[somber relic]

more like KR and CN don't have a lot of animation product (yet) compared to JP

that don't have anything to do with MAL favored JP anime

[weak glacier]

China does have a lot of animation, it's very hard to access to the West

[somber relic]

well then you get the point

1. hard to access the info

[weak glacier]

And they don't make it a point to add

I'm still trying to find there non-Japanese category

They don't even bother to list it

You are telling me... a website named my anime list... is not gonna be biased towards anime?

So I did find a Donghua list made by fans

And MAL couldn't even put in it's genre

[somber relic]

oh, so what you really want is for them to make different category of anime with donghua?

[weak glacier]

The problem with MAL is they focus primarily on anime. It's not gonna make any effort to segregate or promote non-anime shows

Even still, it's only popular titles

I can find a random ass OVA from 50 years ago and it will be listed on MAL

I'm not gonna fault them because they are "anime" list, I just find it frustrating how little thought it comes to non-Japanese animation is

[somber relic]

ok I think I get what you are trying to say here, but here is the thing

if you want them to make different categorization for them, it's really pain in the ass when it come to maintain them, and there is no really need to make different category for them, since they are basically just same animation product, with different nation origin

and for this

It's not gonna make any effort to segregate or promote non-anime shows

dude, database site never have obligation to promote anything

they are not advertisement site

do you think anime like Demon Slayer or AoT became popular because some site like MAL or Anilist promote them

[weak glacier]

Yes, they are an advertisement site

[somber relic]

uhh

[weak glacier]

You ever seem their banners?

All forms of advertising

[somber relic]

well sure yeah MAL nowdays really active on ads stuff now since they actually trying to sell anime-manga related stuff, and I also don't like that as well (thanks god I'm using chrome extension which make MAL interface looks twice better and now I can avoid those cursed ads stuff), but you can't say that to another databases site, and if we ignore the ads they just work pretty much same

I recommend you to use the extension as well to make MAL more bearable to use

yeah I hate those ads as well

[weak glacier]

I use ad block

But they also advertise in other forms

Through article promotions and other stuff

[ivory mauve]

Aight here's a troupe i haven't seen in a while

[somber relic]

you actually read their articles? my condolence then

[weak glacier]

Fans do

But you know, you know better

[somber relic]

well yeah first of all, that's MAL problem as forum site, not as database site

and MAL forum being shit is already known for many years, and that's applied to many weebs forum as well

[weak glacier]

MAL is a consortium

Or, an aggregation site

[somber relic]

but that still has nothing to do with the current talk about your complain with their database

[weak glacier]

You keep moving the goal posts

You trying to keep redirecting the problems

[somber relic]

I hope I don't looks like a MAL shiller after this convo, since I also used to throw a lot of complain toward MAL in another server

especially about asian comics

[weak glacier]

MAL is heavily biased towards Japanese animation

They literally work with JP companies

It's not a secret

I get it they have no obligation to display other countries, but that doesn't change the fact that they are bias

[somber relic]

it's not like they working with them since the start, as far I aware they started doing that around barely before covid, and it's not like the databases is affected that much because of that

[weak glacier]

It does affect the database

[somber relic]

with what exactly? promoting stuff?

if you still talk about non-JP anime stuff, blame their user for caring too much about JP-anime only stuff

you know that popularity number and stuff influenced by the user right?

[weak glacier]

Companies that work with MAL are generally be promoted and have more favorable reviews. It's also going to have more information on the staff, etc

[somber relic]

so you want to accuse their mod manipulate the number? if you have evidence, go ahead then

[weak glacier]

Not exactly

[somber relic]

I hope it's not a baseless conjecture though

[weak glacier]

If you getting good press, users gonna typically rated it higher

If you have industry people saying it's good, then people will likely believe it regardless of merit

Your logic is very flawed

[somber relic]

just give a solid evidence instead of assuming shit, because with that your logic, ppl shouldn't use IMDB as well

IMDB even backed with much bigger corpo

[weak glacier]

You didn't even listen to what I said

If an antiuber said an anime is good, people are typically gonna believe it's good

[somber relic]

If you have industry people saying it's good,

who is this "industry ppl" again?

and what anituber do with this lol

[slender skiff]

[weak glacier]

Well

Can't be helped

[slender skiff]

Frosty your points are everywhere tbh

But in any case

I don't even see the point in this debate

[weak glacier]

My point is that MAL is biased towards Japanese anime, and he saying it's not

[somber relic]

I mean we are going from "MAL database bad and too JP biased" and then suddenly there is industy ppl and anituber

[slender skiff]

...so what if it's biased towards Japanese anime?

[weak glacier]

It's not like I care, it's the fact that people don't believe it is

[slender skiff]

As far as most people outside japan are concerned

Anime is predominantly Japanese

Or rather

[somber relic]

don't get me wrong, I believe they are biased toward Japanese stuff, but what are you trying to say afterward have a lot of misinformation

[weak glacier]

MAL is entitled to do whatever they want, but that doesn't mean they aren't biased and doesn't have consquences

[slender skiff]

It specifically refers to Japanese cartoons, in the eyes of the international community

[weak glacier]

Or maybe you don't understand how the entertainment industry works

[slender skiff]

What I'm having trouble processing is

What's wrong?

[weak glacier]

Nothing

[boreal oyster]

frosty moment

[slender skiff]

It's literally called "my anime list"

[boreal oyster]

lemme take your name again

[slender skiff]

Ofc it's gonna focus predominantly on anime

[somber relic]

uhhh ok? I literally just want to discuss about the database only, I never have intention to discuss about how anime industry work

[weak glacier]

I have literally told him that

[slender skiff]

Which is predominantly Japanese

[somber relic]

the topic is still on point when frosty said MAL didn't separate donghua with anime, and I lost it when it reach the point of MAL not trying to promote non-anime stuff

[weak glacier]

You kept trying to move the goal post everytime I make a point

[weak glacier]

A swing and a miss

[somber relic]

yeah ok, then how is your opinion about other database site then

which similar like MAL like Anilist or AnimePlanet

[weak glacier]

Your agrument is: MAL is not biased
My agrument is: MAL is biased

[somber relic]

because if we are talking about their databases only, they are pretty much more or less same, if we are talking about the anime only though

[weak glacier]

You lost me

What are you fighting for?

[boreal oyster]

my argument : mal is mal

[somber relic]

then have you ever tried to browse non-anime stuff in Anilist or animeplanet for example

[slender skiff]

I'm actually confused

[weak glacier]

I am too

[boreal oyster]

freedom

[slender skiff]

With you frosty

Not haru

[weak glacier]

I spent like 10 minutes telling him that MAL is biased towards JP anime

He took personal offense to that or something idk

[somber relic]

no no no, here was the main point I try to rebuke here

I guess you need to elaborate the "label" thingy in the first place

[boreal oyster]

someone pls make a summary

[boreal oyster]

donghua is on "anime" tag, korean animation is the same

idk tho

[somber relic]

I just don't get it how we went from talking about "label" to MAL being jp biased

[boreal oyster]

I'm not frosty

[somber relic]

it's so dumb

[weak glacier]

Clearlyt

We moved past that agrument

[slender skiff]

Yeah I'm very confused how it became about Japanese biased to begin with

I mean most anime are Japanese
So it focuses predominantly on Japanese content
That doesn't mean it's biased tho

[somber relic]

that's also same with Anilist

but for the main reason is like what I said before

consistency

[boreal oyster]

anime = japanese
donghua = on anime label
therefore, it's biased

idk tho, I'm not frosty

[weak glacier]

"not biased"

They are named

[somber relic]

how about just elaborate what you mean with label m8

[weak glacier]

My ANIME list

[somber relic]

I don't care about ads shit in MAL, and I already agree with you that they are shitty

[boreal oyster]

🗣️

[slender skiff]

I mean at the end of the day

[weak glacier]

Why are we agruing?

[slender skiff]

Articles are literally opinion pieces

[boreal oyster]

i sleep

[weak glacier]

They are just mouthpieces for studios

[somber relic]

well since you said they are being pretentious with "label", and as someone who maintained this kind of shit for years (not in MAL though), I wonder what you actually mean with this

what label you are talking about here

are we talking about demographic label? nation origin label? genre label? or what

it's just too vague

[weak glacier]

If you want my answer, it's that there is a lot of arguments over how things should be labelled to an absurd degree. Like whether something should be considered anime or not, subgenre labels. It wasn't really meant to be specific, just a general agrument to be thrown

It wasn't anything specific, more like how I preceive MAL users

Then it just devolved into a pissing match between wether MAL was biased or not

[weak glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-konosuba-cute-kawaii-demand-gif-12134872

oh btw

[boreal oyster]

[weak glacier]

good news came my way

[boreal oyster]

what

your wife delivers safely?

[weak glacier]

I'm proud of Japan for once

[slender skiff]

You got more figures without going broke?

[weak glacier]

[somber relic]

well, sorry if I don't talk about anime but asian comic instead

but here in site like Anilist and Mangaupdate, they don't accept any work that came from outside Korea China/Taiwan Japan (asia territory for Mangaupdate), that simply because if they accept a title from outside the region they supposed to reject because the comic "have manga style"

that's mean they also need to define what is "manga style" comic to begin with

[slender skiff]

Oh the koumei compilation

[somber relic]

it's just too messy and chaotic

[slender skiff]

I mean let's be real here w/ regards to Koumei

I don't think anyone expected it to be such a banger

[weak glacier]

It went hard

Iconic intro

[somber relic]

you don't know how hard it is to maintain a database site contained thousands of entry

especially if you don't get paid for it at all

and ppl also want quality & accuracy for their data as well

[slender skiff]

I am curious tho

[weak glacier]

go on

[somber relic]

maybe I just a bit triggered with frosty trying to undervalue the quality of database site

don't get me wrong, I hate MAL in some certain aspect

[weak glacier]

wtf

[somber relic]

and speaking of "biased review" or more-likely a paid review, that's just inevitable in a popular site, it's not applied only in MAL

you can find same shit in goodread, IMDB, rotten tomato etc.

[slender skiff]

Why did they pick a random Hungarian song to be the OP for this anime about a Chinese strategist that reincarnated was transported to modern Japan

[weak glacier]

wtf

Hungarian?

Have I been mislead?

[slender skiff]

It is a cover

Yes

[somber relic]

tbf Great Pretender ED song singed by a murican, and it was literally a murican song

[slender skiff]

I mean

Great Pretender is literally a Freddie Mercury song

So yes

[boreal oyster]

this gay shit got high score

[slender skiff]

Though I guess Freddie Mercury is British

[somber relic]

Ergo Proxy ending song by Radiohead as well lol

[boreal oyster]

how's freddyx British?

he's literally Zoroastrian

[weak glacier]

Serial Experiments Lain

[somber relic]

oh yeah my bad for that I guess

[slender skiff]

I mean Mike

I am aware of that

[weak glacier]

wait what

[slender skiff]

But he's clearly making his music in Britain

https://youtu.be/WbnzGXVeaUE?si=_Vnxp00_Wc-uoPK8

[weak glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=x10XFcR2U1c&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fkayokyokuplus.blogspot.com%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

[slender skiff]

There if you want a side by side

[weak glacier]

wtf

[somber relic]

cuz the watcher pretty much only consist with ppl who already love that kind of stuff, and they tend to give big score for anything they like

[slender skiff]

I'm surprised it took you this long to find out

[weak glacier]

omg

[somber relic]

lot of yaoi title got good score in MAL and Anilist

[weak glacier]

The original is actual slightly better

[slender skiff]

[boreal oyster]

i watched it until the end (3 seasons)

[slender skiff]

I mean it essentially became a Eurobeat

[weak glacier]

I mean

[boreal oyster]

i mean it's very good

for gay shit

[weak glacier]

The thing is... I... Don't do beyond superficial research

[boreal oyster]

they deleted many scene from the manhua tho

so the gay shit on the donghua is very minimal

[somber relic]

here is the only thing that I like from them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzUbGHUhxPU

[weak glacier]

so much ass in the original music video

LMAO

[slender skiff]

If only they deleted the cringe shit from rental girlfriend

Oh wait

[somber relic]

I didn't believe it when realized Aimer was the one who sang the theme song for the donghua

[boreal oyster]

so they gonna delete the whole show

[slender skiff]

That's the entire fucking show

[weak glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0NME1GfbIc

https://tenor.com/view/serial-experiments-lain-gif-25783482

[boreal oyster]

the japanese dub yes

[somber relic]

but anyway, even Sawano Hiroyuki working on one of NIKKE theme song

so money talk I guess

[slender skiff]

I mean it is one of the best earning gacha games

[weak glacier]

What's y'all non-JP intro songs y'all like?

[slender skiff]

So yes they will have the money

[boreal oyster]

nikke

[slender skiff]

[somber relic]

Sawano working on one of LoL theme song as well if you don't know this

[weak glacier]

I forgot gunslinger girl was non-JP

[slender skiff]

I don't touch LoL

[boreal oyster]

idk why ppl spend so much money on genshin when it's not even competitive

[slender skiff]

Mike

I ask that about AL every day

[somber relic]

I hate the game but I listened to their songs

[slender skiff]

You don't need skins to play the game

[somber relic]

the joke here is RIOT is an amazing music company, but not as game company

[boreal oyster]

ppl paid for skins
no one spend for gacha on al

[weak glacier]

I uh

[boreal oyster]

he uh

[somber relic]

this also applied to Hypergriph with Arknight

[slender skiff]

Genshin just has a shit gacha

[weak glacier]

I don't gacha, I pay for my girls

[slender skiff]

[weak glacier]

The real gacha is if they gonna release a figure of your favorite gacha character

[slender skiff]

But genuinely it really cooks a good story

...at least in later portions

[boreal oyster]

skip button

[weak glacier]

genshin is just me hitting the A button

[slender skiff]

Most early stories in games are shit lmao

Genshin doesn't even have a skip button

[weak glacier]

hence why I spam the A button

[boreal oyster]

i wonder if they gonna make it a paid feature

[slender skiff]

They just won't add it

Cos it's not like they can't

HI3 has skip buttons

[weak glacier]

I don't play JRPGs for that reason

idgaf about story

[slender skiff]

Which is why I'm really curious about what on earth they'll cook for the Genshin anime

That was announced a year ago
But we've since heard nothing of

[weak glacier]

I want to see my geomommy

[boreal oyster]

Ghoib anime

[weak glacier]

oh yeah

[slender skiff]

From the pv

[somber relic]

what I'm really waiting for is for ufotable breaking the curse of them making bad anime based on game

[weak glacier]

I accidentally bought a Ningguang knock off

[slender skiff]

It might very well not be a re-telling

[weak glacier]

[slender skiff]

Lmfao ikr

But ehhh

Zestiria was fine all things considered

[weak glacier]

I think NASCAR needs an anime, just saying

[slender skiff]

The issue is more so zestiria itself wasn't very good to begin with

[weak glacier]

Problem is

NASCAR is a boy's club

Can't have that in anime

[slender skiff]

The only "NASCAR" you'll see in anime is Initial D and its clones

[weak glacier]

I mean, Diana Patrick though, but that won't go well for the fans

[weak glacier]

That's street racing, but eh

[somber relic]

zestiria literally just ufotable trying to cutting out their budget by using subpar full 3d cgi on the big monster

[slender skiff]

Exactly my point

[weak glacier]

MF Ghost trailer made me lost interest

[slender skiff]

Because NASCAR isn't a thing in Japan

[weak glacier]

They did

Actually ran a race in Japan

[somber relic]

though at least I have to admit that Zestiria still better than God Eater anime

[slender skiff]

Not what I meant

[weak glacier]

Twice to my knowledge

[somber relic]

I don't even want to talk about God Eater anime

[boreal oyster]

is initial d even nascar?

[slender skiff]

I meant that it's simply not popular there

[weak glacier]

Closer to Formula Drift

[slender skiff]

So unless you have a NASCAR nut

[somber relic]

what, no

[slender skiff]

You're not going to see one

[weak glacier]

They did have a Football anime

[slender skiff]

Rugby or football

[boreal oyster]

ao ashi

[somber relic]

eyeshield?

[weak glacier]

American Football

[weak glacier]

I believe so

[somber relic]

to be fair manga have a lot of niche stuff including wide variant amount of sport type, and eyeshield was based on manga

[boreal oyster]

blue lock
where everyone almost have mental issue (the word is banned here)

[weak glacier]

How on god's gren earth did they manage to get to 145 episodes

[slender skiff]

Those 300+ million people calling soccer what the other 7 billion call football can screw off

[boreal oyster]

mf you just playing football, no need to say kill lmao

[somber relic]

cuz the manga itself was pretty long, and it's common for sport manga to have 30+ volumes

so yeah

[slender skiff]

Sports manga do be like that

[weak glacier]

10 volumes per game

I hate long fight scenes

[slender skiff]

1 volume per game is possible

All things considered

[boreal oyster]

haikyuu when reeeee

[weak glacier]

Sometimes I go make breakfast during shonen fight scenes

[slender skiff]

And in the case of soccer 🤢

[weak glacier]

And I come back they still fighting

[slender skiff]

It's a huge thing in Japan

So it gets a lot of anime
And even more manga

[boreal oyster]

lately

[somber relic]

and cursed amount of manga with football theme as well

[boreal oyster]

back then it was baseball innit

[slender skiff]

I don't think Inazuma Eleven is considered "lately"

[weak glacier]

Honestly though

[slender skiff]

That shit is older than Kuroko

[boreal oyster]

can we even consider inazumuch a foodball anime

[somber relic]

hilariously original sport anime isn't that common, most of them based on manga lol

[weak glacier]

I want to see a Japanese managka take on American highschools

[slender skiff]

Yes?

[somber relic]

seriously

[slender skiff]

Ofc it is a (cracked) football anime

And considering Japan are pretty strong as far as Asian football go

No wonder

[somber relic]

fantasy football

[weak glacier]

What on god's green earth

[somber relic]

I mean it's pretty much just like shaolin soccer but with alien and supernatural bs stuff

[weak glacier]

BAYMAX?

I thought about writing my own series

But my storytelling abilities are shi

I think I could probably only do like 1 volume before completely getting gassed

i.e, exhausted

[ivory mauve]

Stan Lee has a cameo in this anime

[slender skiff]

And that's why people start out on fanfiction

[weak glacier]

I noticed that when he was listed as a character

[weak glacier]

I mean...

[ivory mauve]

Its wholesome

[somber relic]

you only will care about volume if your work actually published lol, if you just started you don't need to worry about that

[ivory mauve]

Marvel magic

[weak glacier]

It probably flew under my radar because I only really watch dubs

[weak glacier]

I thought about how I would go about publishing, but I have commitment issues

I would literally have to finish something in order for me to publish it... because if I publish before I finish, I will never get it done

I'll be worse than Freezing's author

[somber relic]

I mean if you just get started, that shouldn't be the thing you need to worry about in the first place

platform like wattpad exist as media for amateur writer

[weak glacier]

I'm not worry about getting published, I write for myself foremost. I'll probably be just focusing on smaller slice of life shit

It takes a lot of energy for me to draw

How managakas keep this up is beyond me

[somber relic]

don't even bother about that if you aware that your drawing skill isn't good, might as well try to find someone who draw for you instead

[weak glacier]

I am by no means an expert

Better than your average Deviant Art artist

Already spent 10 hours of work today

I don't see being a comic/manga artist as a viable career for me

[somber relic]

yeah exactly why I said this

even in manga world it's common

well of course finding a good artist who want to work with you is another challenge

but well that's just how life is right

in my country working as comic artist can be super rough as well

even our comic artist here choose to work with foreigner instead in international platform like Tapas, trying to make their work se\ll in their own country is already a lost hope

not when the underage kids here love to consume trash manhwa & manhua with dogshit tl

[weak glacier]

Here's what I've been working with. This is far from the final product, red circles are fixes I need to do

That helmet back there took 4 hours