anime-manga

[slender skiff]

Mengo did a brilliant job showing how fucked up characters can go

[somber relic]

well I guess I don't have right to blame someone who watched Scum's Wish when myself actually finished Good Ending

[slender skiff]

Which is why I was never fully convinced by the claim that Mengo has no input in Oshi no Ko's story

[somber relic]

that garbage manage to be as worse as domekano

and somehow I finished that manga

fucking amazing

[slender skiff]

I wouldn't call it a dumpster fire
Scum's wish I mean

Like it's a different breed entirely

[somber relic]

Good Ending was worse than Scum's Wish

[slender skiff]

For me dumpster fire is domekano

And I think kanokari has more than cemented its place too

Like the whole ntr dream scene is one thing

Then we had the 2 page spread of Chizuru saying she's on her period

[somber relic]

I wonder if you watched anime adaptation of Seo Kouji's work

not Goddess Terrace Cafe obv

the older stuff

[slender skiff]

AND the period scene was literally 1 chapter ago

[somber relic]

Kimimachi and Fuuka

[slender skiff]

And it somehow got topped already

By what?

[somber relic]

Boku wa kimi iru machi

[slender skiff]

Well let me show you

[somber relic]

there is no way you never heard of that anime/manga

[slender skiff]

What happened in the latest chap

Of kanokari

[somber relic]

Kanokari is just lame if you asked me

it's not a total shitshow, more like really boring to read

[slender skiff]

https://vxtwitter.com/santanaelchan/status/1723857205353406473?s=46&t=zmXK8CKXJDw_ZkzPLSivOw

[somber relic]

I know, my friend in another server always keep me up to date to it

[slender skiff]

Like of all things

WHY ALIENS

[somber relic]

another reason why I said it's boring to see now

it's too obvious that Reiji want to stall the manga

[slender skiff]

Well to me i don't consider it boring

[somber relic]

but there is no real thing that actually happens there

[slender skiff]

I consider Komi boring

Kanokari is more of

[somber relic]

well, me too

[slender skiff]

It's so bad it's good

[somber relic]

Komi-san dead in vol.18 for me

[slender skiff]

It's entertaining to see what Reiji cooks

[somber relic]

dead as mean it's not entertaining to read anymore

[slender skiff]

Komi for me ended after the confession

[quaint patrol]

i stopped around ch 350 in komi

idk where that is

[slender skiff]

I think we stopped around the same time then

[somber relic]

Ender honestly you need to read a real bad manga

[slender skiff]

It's roughly after the confession

[somber relic]

I want to see your comment about them

[slender skiff]

Yeah I don't really read bad bad manga

Cos for me manga is the third choice usually

In other words, most of the bad stuff I come across are Anime or LN

[somber relic]

if only garbage like Uwakoi actually have anime adaptation

[slender skiff]

As opposed to manga

[somber relic]

too bad we got Yosuga no sora instead

YnS was boring

[slender skiff]

I've read the VN

[somber relic]

overhyped and turned into a dead meme by normies though

the anime adaptation of it

[slender skiff]

Its actually a decent VN lmao

The anime was questionable at best

[quaint patrol]

like school days?

[slender skiff]

It did give us that glorious meme scene that Oshi no Ko fans ran away with

School Days is just

Lol for the sake of lol

Because they chose that specific ending to adapt

Yosuga no Sora anime just briefly went over all the routes

Well, most not all

Rip motoha route

[somber relic]

do you watch Pupa though

[slender skiff]

I have heard... Stories when I was just getting into anime

And so I decided not to touch it even with a million foot pole

It's just not the kind of genre I was ever interested in

[somber relic]

it was really bad and gross, however the duration also really so damn short you can always pretend they never happens at all lol

[slender skiff]

I confess I'm not good with horror

[somber relic]

Pupa anime adaption was a really bad adaptation for a bad manga

isn't that hilarious

[slender skiff]

They had 1 job

And they somehow ruined it

Ofc

But yeah I'm not good with horror

So I don't watch horror

Not just cos I get scared somewhat easily

[somber relic]

there are many kind of horror stuff though

[slender skiff]

I just don't find it enjoyable

In general really

[quaint patrol]

im awful with horror games, but horror movies are less so

cos i dont have to do anything

[somber relic]

I don't like grosteque body horror stuff like Junji Ito's work or Corpse Party anime

[slender skiff]

The only "horror" anime I've watched

Is Another

[somber relic]

but I'm fine with psychological one like Satoshi's Kon work

[slender skiff]

And calling that horror is a stretch

[somber relic]

do you watch any Satoshi Kon's movie

except Tokyo Godfather I guess

[quaint patrol]

what about mieruko chan

[somber relic]

[slender skiff]

Heard of his movies, never watched them

[slender skiff]

It's been on my watch list for a while now

It's probably the one of the few I'll give a chance too

[quaint patrol]

it's like

[somber relic]

well if you bad with horror/psychological stuff, you can try this one I suppose https://anilist.co/anime/759/Tokyo-Godfathers/

[quaint patrol]

well ok, some of the introductions are horror-like

[somber relic]

this kinda has Home Alone vibe

[slender skiff]

Isn't the whole point
She can see ghosts
To the point she's just

Bruh I give up

And is like just vibing

[quaint patrol]

she sees them biblically accurately

and is trying to ignore them

while internally panicking

[slender skiff]

Yeah it sounds hilarious

As opposed to horrifying

[slender skiff]

[quaint patrol]

the humans cause this

more than the ghosts

[somber relic]

also I guess you never watch stuff like Serial Experimental Lain as well

[slender skiff]

Sometimes humans are scarier than the ghosts themselves

[somber relic]

one of title included in anime elitist starter pack

[slender skiff]

Yeah I didn't watch Lain
Neither have I watched higurashi

[somber relic]

Higurashi is cringe

[slender skiff]

Though I do hear Lain is one of those "ahead of its time" ones

And I heard about Lain before I even got deep into anime

So that was like 2015

[somber relic]

I will feels offended if you compare Higurashi to SF psychological anime like Lain or Ergo Proxy

Higurashi is just horror

also I hate stuff like that

[slender skiff]

I meant it more so as

"the older horror anime people always mention even though they're barely even similar"

I know higu is more akin to slasher horror

And another is just Japanese final destination

Lain and Ergo Proxy is more of what

Horror in the sense of existential crisis?

[somber relic]

oh, Ergo Proxy isn't horror at all

it's just post-apocalypse anime with typical Japanese nihilisitic stuff

[slender skiff]

Yeah I'd lean it more to psychological fuckery

[somber relic]

that's it

[slender skiff]

Which is what Lain is right?

[somber relic]

more or less

[somber relic]

well, Ergo Proxy isn't even a mind-fucking anime, it was jusr like you know, adventurous anime

with SF genre

but with grim world setting

there was one episode in Ergo Proxy when there was literally nothing happens

similar with that one Breaking Bad episode when Walter White tried to catch a fly

[slender skiff]

[quaint patrol]

what's SF genre

[somber relic]

scifi

[quaint patrol]

oic

[somber relic]

oh, but the best things in Ergo Proxy was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyCkM5Bxkg

when the first time I watched the anime I never know it's Radiohead who sang the song

I mean, there is no way a famous Western band would sing in an anime, right?

I just realized about this few years ago

[stable herald]

BRO SHE GOT THAT THICC ACCENT

[thorn briar]

A new light novel for bsd

It's called " the day I picked up dazai "

[thorn briar]

Dazai's eyes at the top of the cover , wtf

[zinc lance]

this one is nice

[slender skiff]

Didn't this get an anime

And even an s2?

Or am I misremembering

[zinc lance]

if you meant mine i dunno, i don't realy watch anime anymore

i think it got one tho

[slender skiff]

Saihate no Paladin right?

https://anilist.co/anime/132473/Saihate-no-Paladin
https://anilist.co/anime/143085/Saihate-no-Paladin-Tetsusabi-no-Yama-no-Ou/

Yep,S2 is actually airing this season lmao

That's a massive change of studios tho

[quaint patrol]

anilist has pretty low ratings for everything

[signal grotto]

and mal's rating are all biased

i love the faraway paladin anime btw, season 2's op is pretty good

[quaint patrol]

mangadex ratings are also not indicative of good story

which is expected

just shock value backstory + good art

[quaint patrol]

is that the one with teasing the knight woman captain?

[signal grotto]

will and his party member are gonna kill a dragon named valacirca aka god's sickle that took over the dwarves' rusty mountain in season 2

[quaint patrol]

that is already s2?

valcirca is the latest manga chapter atm

[signal grotto]

valacirca reminds me of smaug from the hobbits

[quaint patrol]

i dont remember smaug being that talkative

[signal grotto]

and smaug prob not as dangerous as valacirca, since it's nicknamed god's sickle

[weak glacier]

Excuse me?

[quaint patrol]

mahiru? what?

[slender skiff]

Yeeeep

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

[quaint patrol]

the web novel didnt even do that

[slender skiff]

I mean

If Kaguya and Shirogane can do the deed

What's wrong with Amane and Mahiru

[quaint patrol]

there's nothing wrong but

they literally just keep hugging in the WN

all the way to 266

[weak glacier]

Some woman got upset at me when I called her nude femboy figure collection disgusting

[quaint patrol]

i would too

[slender skiff]

Dude they were already groping in V6

[quaint patrol]

well ok they were groping in wn too

[weak glacier]

Oh, the ONK author doing sus things?

Not surprised

[slender skiff]

What

[quaint patrol]

huh?

[slender skiff]

We're talking about Tenshi not Oshi no Ko

[weak glacier]

I thought y'al were referencing Kaguya

[quaint patrol]

ender referenced sex

[slender skiff]

I mean

Kaguya is a different series entirely

[weak glacier]

Oh, I know

I am trying to refrain from talking about him

Brings the worst out of me

[quaint patrol]

ok

the author added the deed onto this chapter

as compared to the WN chapter

[weak glacier]

Tenshi?

[quaint patrol]

that's right

[weak glacier]

I don't really have opinion on that show

[quaint patrol]

shoujo romance is hard to watch, so i dont watch

[weak glacier]

[slender skiff]

It's a different ball game really

[weak glacier]

Shoujo romance infinitely better

Though, I am biased

[quaint patrol]

better?

[slender skiff]

I mean

[quaint patrol]

better in anime form than LN or manga?

[slender skiff]

You are extremely biased frosty

[weak glacier]

Betcha ya ass I am

[weak glacier]

Manga tbh. Shoujo kinda died in anime

[quaint patrol]

yea

[slender skiff]

There aren't many good shoujo manga adaptations

And the good ones are usually the classics

[weak glacier]

Is blooming into you considered shoujo?

I got skip beat n shit

Lemme pull up my photo

[slender skiff]

Bloom into you is shoujo ai

Which is a completely different genre

[quaint patrol]

tf

[slender skiff]

It's definitely not shoujo

If anything, the demographic for shoujo ai is usually seinen

Skip Beat tho hmm

[quaint patrol]

terms too unique, im lost

[slender skiff]

Shoujo Ai is basically a nicer way of saying yuri

Girl's love

[quaint patrol]

oh i see

[weak glacier]

Makes sense since you wouldn't classify yaoi as shounen

[slender skiff]

Also yes, skip beat was published in a shoujo magazine

Seinen is basically adult males as opposed to teenage males that shounen caters to

Iirc

[weak glacier]

I think it just means adult

[slender skiff]

Adult men between ages of 18-40

[weak glacier]

Seinene also felt kinda non-gendered tbh

[slender skiff]

Josei manga is the female version of seinen

[quaint patrol]

wasnt josei that abusive shit

it's what i read about it on reddit anyways

[weak glacier]

Reddit always has L takes

[quaint patrol]

one thing that reddit always gets wrong is story

they overhype shitty ass stories

when all the story has is shock value

[slender skiff]

Josei deals with heavier topics

[weak glacier]

You telling me that?

[slender skiff]

As you might expect

Just like Seinen

Sooo

A half truth

[weak glacier]

I WONDER WHAT ANIME I HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FOR A YEAR NOW

[slender skiff]

Or rather fragment of truth

I mean

I find it ironic you despise Oshi no Ko

[weak glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-head-against-a-pole-looney-tunes-headbang-sylvester-the-cat-gif-16994432

[slender skiff]

And adore Mirai Nikki

[quaint patrol]

i dont really care about oshi no ko for its shock plot but instead its SoL

when aqua isnt unhinged

[weak glacier]

There is a huge difference between the two. One uses "real" events and market itself as an expose on the idol industry, the other is a straight up dumpster fire of a hunger games

[quaint patrol]

when oshi no ko was focusing on aqua's passion for acting, it was more enjoyable

[weak glacier]

Future Diary knows it's place

Oshi no Ko trying to oversell you

[quaint patrol]

there's this one hilarious dude on the oshi no ko reddit

[weak glacier]

My take is that ONK gonna end up like SOA

[slender skiff]

Except Mirai Nikki is shilled by edgy teenagers instead

[weak glacier]

True

[slender skiff]

It's literally catered to that kind of fanbase

And if Yuno isn't shock value idk what is

[weak glacier]

ONK is shilled by sex-crazed pseudo-intellectuals

[quaint patrol]

wtf?

only ruby is sex

[slender skiff]

Lmao

[weak glacier]

Fanservice

[slender skiff]

I mean

What

[weak glacier]

Anime be hitting with a hard hitting scene and then tries to throw in fanservice

[quaint patrol]

you're like finding reasons to hate oshi no ko instead of hating oshi no ko cos it's bad

[slender skiff]

I mean

[quaint patrol]

you're like a vendetta against it

[slender skiff]

Yes

He does

[weak glacier]

I do, I don't let things die easily

[slender skiff]

That's why I've given up discussing Oshi no Ko around this guy

[quaint patrol]

makes sense

[slender skiff]

And if he brings it up

I bash how he gushed over Mirai Nikki instead

[weak glacier]

I mean

I don't deny Future Diary is bad

[slender skiff]

Before you deny it
You literally were proclaiming how you thought it was one of the best anime you've ever seen

[weak glacier]

You know

[slender skiff]

[weak glacier]

I like things in spite of its flaws. I don't rate objectively

I either give it a 1 or a 10

Or I don't even care to rate

[slender skiff]

I just enjoy pointing out the irony for the reasons you provide

[weak glacier]

I don't even provides reasons for my scores so I am confused just as you are for the reasons why they are 10s

I don't deny I can be hypocritical at times. I arbitrary latch on to things and die on a hill to defend

Like, I gave Akame ga Kill an 1, but like I don't hate it per se

ONK i genuinely dislike

Honestly, my worst rating is probably no rating because it means it really didn't leave an impression on me to care

Not that they mean anything to begin with

[quaint patrol]

you baited me, they never do it

[zinc lance]

ye that's the one

[quaint patrol]

mahiru is thirsty tho

[flat cedar]

https://youtu.be/j9QQ9dqUY0M?si=ZcNy7LOS2YNPqyJs forgot how good this ED was

[echo quiver]

nothing will ever beat season 1 op animation

[slender skiff]

[flat cedar]

Dunno if a S3 will ever happen

I really like the secondary backing voice

as it gives the lyrics some oomph

[whole berry]

yet

[thorn briar]

Conan ch 1120 is out

[quaint patrol]

so

having 1500 tabs on icloud is not advised

[serene forge]

WHY DO YOU-

[quaint patrol]

cos

i read stuff then archive it

so i disabled cloud on safari, now the tab groups arent trolling me anymore

[whole berry]

Bruh just bookmark it

Also

You know the incest step sibling genre

I found something

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-twin-sister-who-looks-exactly-like-me-is-trying-to-cross-the-line-with-me/

[quaint patrol]

why would i put 1500 bookmarks

[whole berry]

[thorn briar]

Wtf is this

[whole berry]

It is what it is

[quaint patrol]

ill cross the line with them

[thorn briar]

The only incest I watched is mahouka, if it is considered one

[whole berry]

Yeah it's incest

[thorn briar]

I like it actually

[whole berry]

But miyuki is modified so that she can bear tatsuyas child

[thorn briar]

[whole berry]

That's the reason why she exist

[whole berry]

A collar for tatsuya

[thorn briar]

I don't remember that

Was it the ln

[whole berry]

It's on vol 18

The succession arc

[thorn briar]

I didn't read the ln

[whole berry]

Shiro

[thorn briar]

What

[whole berry]

It has a manga adaptation

[thorn briar]

I know

[whole berry]

It's adapted to vol 18

[thorn briar]

But , I'm too lazy to read it

[whole berry]

Smh

Wait

[thorn briar]

I want to read bsd stormbringer ln, but I'm too lazy

[thorn briar]

Is that maya

[whole berry]

Maya deez nuts

Yeah

[zinc lance]

[thorn briar]

[whole berry]

It's like what master shinzo said

[thorn briar]

Maya is my fave

[whole berry]

Ngl i like her more than miyuki

[somber relic]

LN hiatus for 6 years already and still counting

[thorn briar]

Same

[zinc lance]

hiatus for 6 years

[whole berry]

Not because of her body tho

[zinc lance]

insert helicopter ptsd

[whole berry]

Speaking of helicopter

I should check the latest gate chapter

[thorn briar]

Wait

[zinc lance]

the gate one with the pseudo romans or the gate as in the new gate

[whole berry]

thus the jsdf committed genocide

[thorn briar]

I just learned that maya's age is 47

[whole berry]

Yeah she's old

[thorn briar]

I thought she was young

[whole berry]

She maintains her beauty

That's why she'll die from anything

She's actually fragile

[thorn briar]

[somber relic]

sooo, Josei has stereotype of the manga being rape-y, sexual assault content and adultery stuff, and that has truth behind it

[whole berry]

But dw

[somber relic]

but also like what I said before, it's just a stereotype

[whole berry]

Tatsuya has atomic recovery

[somber relic]

there are so many Josei title, like manga published in seinen and shounen magazine

there are also a lot of normal Josei manga as well

which don't have fucked up and sexual shit content

[whole berry]

Tatsuya still needs maya

I mean who can blame him

[quaint patrol]

my first impression of it was pretty bad yea

[whole berry]

That body for political reason

[quaint patrol]

im not inspired to try it tho

[somber relic]

you just need to try avoid Josei manga which target adult reader

just read Josei manga which safe for all age and you are good

it's just the matter of where the manga is published after all

Aku no Hana is a shounen manga and it's not a reading material for kids for example

as well as Claymore

if you already read enough manga, you can feels that manga demographic label feels like a marketing scam

especially for title nowadays

[zinc lance]

CLAYMORE i gotta read the ending

i totally forgot

[somber relic]

there was one Isekai manga adaptation which literally have nudity and almost explicit sexual stuff and it published in Shounen magazinwe

[zinc lance]

i have like the 2/3 of the manga or more but at some point i stopped buying manga alltogether

[somber relic]

@slender skiff do you also know that Domekano published in Shounen magazine as well

[somber relic]

this is why I said this

[gusty light]

Josei manga
for all ages
what kind of oxymoron am I hearing this time?

if you want all age stuff that focuses on girls alone, just read/watch Shoujo stuff

like Fruit Basket

Josei stuff mostly revolves around this one girl struggling against temptation from hot guys

[weak glacier]

Legally Blonde?

[gusty light]

what was that?

[gusty light]

yeah something like that

hell, you can count 50 Shades of Grey as Josei if you want

[weak glacier]

[gusty light]

[weak glacier]

I just realize America is full of Josei media

[gusty light]

very

[weak glacier]

I can't think of JP josei but can list off a lot of American ones damn

[gusty light]

Korean pornhwa has a shitton of them

[weak glacier]

I'm not into that scene

Japan doesn't focus on women that much sadly

Shounen is king

[gusty light]

well it's either shounen or seinen or in the small percentage, shoujo

josei stuff mostly gonna be full fledged R18+, I can assume that

[weak glacier]

good lord

Yeah, there was the woman who was way into femboy stuff
Like way into where had nude figures doing questionable acts
Discord mods defended her

[gusty light]

[weak glacier]

Supposed to be a safe place

But it's a haven for degens

[gusty light]

ah

I have no comments about it

[weak glacier]

If that's the josei you talking about

[gusty light]

maybe my view on josei stuff is kinda narrow, but

at least most of them do be like that

[weak glacier]

It hard to find women catered to women that is good

I find yaoi is marketed towards women

[gusty light]

oh, you don't say

[weak glacier]

And most yaoi is trash

It is as bad as those power fantasies isekais

[gusty light]

here's the kicker, even some of the yaoi fringes who draw manga can't even draw a proper peepee

I want to bleach my eyes

[weak glacier]

That can be said for men drawing boobs

[gusty light]

I caught my youngest sister reading that, and I was like, "what the fuck am I reading"

it was like Tokyo Ghoul doujin, iirc

[gusty light]

oh this. They often gone off the correct measurements

says D cup
looks like H cup

[weak glacier]

I don't mind big honkers, but like

Weebs are like "this is reality" when watching edgy anime and some girl with big honkers start running with bread in her mouth

I think there needs to be a legal age to have opinion on anime

[gusty light]

there should be a legal age

[weak glacier]

The amount of young people try to lecture me about how anime is this intectually deep shit and I see ecchi tag and harem tag

Nah dawg, you watching someone's wet dream

[gusty light]

LMFAO

me who watch anime since 3rd year middle school can differentiate between some normal shounen stuff and an outright Hentai

I said this in other server and I said it again, new gen weebs nowadays are insufferably stupid

[weak glacier]

Some guy told me that incest was normal in anime

I'm like, excuse me?

It's really annoying when talking about cartoons because some weeb tries to tell you that the west is dying and yata yata

They say cartoons do x but anime does x, but haven't watch cartoons so they don't know that cartoons do x

Also, I had a fucking WEEB tell me english voice acting sucked... on an AMERICAN produced cartoon

I think these guys lost their marbles

It's the annoying "grass is greener on the other side" BS game they play with you

[slim rain]

The latest episode of JJK…

was fucking BONKERS

If megumi is able to ||subjugate that one shikigami, he could probably defeat gojo AND sukuna||

[gusty light]

more like they lost their braincells

if you see what I post way above this topic, you'll see a screenshot of a tweet regarding about "native Isekai"

...what the actual fuck is that!?

[weak glacier]

What that supposed to me?

The New World settlers?

[gusty light]

smh

just call it fantasy setting, ffs

these guys

[weak glacier]

[gusty light]

I wanna beat the shit out of somebody for that, like seriously

[weak glacier]

apparently a 4chan troll

You know

[gusty light]

this is depressing

[weak glacier]

Weebs say Japan doesn't care about the west, but why on god's green earth do anime takes place in a world that suspiciously look like an European village

I can't

[gusty light]

it's the default setting for most fantasy genre, so

[slim rain]

simply do not use the term

[gusty light]

[slim rain]

ez

[gusty light]

easier said than done

[weak glacier]

It's the self-hatred and the "west is dying" is the easiest way to spot a weeb

Y'all got borderline nazis and then start fetishizing japan

[gusty light]

[weak glacier]

I'm genuinely confused at these people

The more I think about it

[gusty light]

I think some weeb thinks modern west is just.... bad

[weak glacier]

If anything unites weebs is their hatred towards western media

[gusty light]

compared to the old Victorian or Renaissance era of Europe

[weak glacier]

I legit have some kids that grown up on anime and had to explain what some of my fav cartoons were

They lambast me for making broad generalizations and do the exact shit for things they do not understand

[gusty light]

most new gen weebs do be like that

[weak glacier]

What separates me from weebs is that I actually cultured in both western and Japanese media

Makes you appreciate Star Wars Visions more

[gusty light]

same

even though I barely watched anything

[weak glacier]

I love anime, but I am not blinded by it

Disney is vastly superior on the technical level when it comes to 2d animations

[gusty light]

though thanks to that, I have become extremely picky about what anime I should watch

[weak glacier]

That scene where the beast and Belle is dancing is something no anime has ever come close to in technicality

[gusty light]

I avoid Yuri because most of them are cringe

oh, the old Disney

[weak glacier]

Sadly yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OElUWCKsPgM

This is actually genuinely impressive

[gusty light]

the new Disney probably can't pull that animation production anymore

[weak glacier]

They could

They choose not to

[gusty light]

lul

[weak glacier]

It takes a lot of work and money

It's sad even with modern technology anime sound design is god awful

I realize how quiet anime is

[gusty light]

I mean modern animation studio has gone so far for 2D stuff

[somber relic]

yes??
you never know that

[gusty light]

never knew?

[somber relic]

don't tell me you never know Seinen manga for all age either

[gusty light]

...

[somber relic]

or shounen manga with mature label

[weak glacier]

a lot of 2d and 3d have a lot of overlap in terms of techniques

[gusty light]

oh right

[weak glacier]

nudity marketed towards young kids in Japan. Can't have that in the west

[somber relic]

if I give you Josei manga for all ages here, what will you do

[gusty light]

you know what

[somber relic]

here is the thing, manga magazine demographic =/= age rating

[weak glacier]

Nudity was novel at the time for manga, but now it's getting annoying

[somber relic]

manga magazine demographic isn't same with ESRB

[weak glacier]

Not surprised

I am ashamed at what they market towards young kids in Japan

[gusty light]

I was half wrong, since some seinen do have all-ages stuff like Bocchi

[somber relic]

and Domekano is shounen manga

[weak glacier]

I don't mind the content, just need be more aware how they market their shit

[somber relic]

whether you believe it or not

Domekano literally have sex chapter in the first chapter

[gusty light]

[weak glacier]

I feel like a parent as I get older

I bitch about how media is marketed towards kids

[somber relic]

@weak glacierthis is why I said this

AoT published in shounen manga despite the content is definitely not for kid

[gusty light]

[somber relic]

there is Flower of Evil with lot of sexual kink content as well

[weak glacier]

Yeah, I agree with your assessment

[gusty light]

Christ

[weak glacier]

It's not a good thing to promote to kids

[somber relic]

Claymore got gore and nudity content

published in shounen magazine

I can tell more title

[weak glacier]

I understand that kids thinks it's cool, but at the same time we should be teaching kids that the things they read isn't always ok

[gusty light]

I admit I still remember when some Shounen manga/anime got borderline gory like Bleach and probably JJK

[weak glacier]

A lot of people need to learn that certain things are not ok

And I wish people understand that be desensitized to violence shouldn't be a source of pride

[gusty light]

I swear to God Japanese folks should redefine what's Shounen/Shoujo and Seinen/Josei

[somber relic]

no, it's just manga magazine demographic for marketing label

[weak glacier]

Don't get me started that some Shounen mangakas are creepy

[somber relic]

it's all up to the publishers

[weak glacier]

Still carries weight

[somber relic]

and publisher don't fucking care

[gusty light]

yes, and that's definitely felt wrong if anyone misappropriate that

[somber relic]

tell that to Japanese manga pubs industry

[weak glacier]

It's like when the FTC bonks Juul for marketing towards kid

[weak glacier]

Yeah, I gave up on them long ago

[gusty light]

LMFAO

[weak glacier]

They still kept they pedo guy after being charged

Kenshin or whatever it is

They don't care, Japan doesn't care

[gusty light]

Rurouni Kenshin author?

[somber relic]

also, the reason why we on manga commmunity encourage people to ignore manga magazine demographic label

[weak glacier]

Yep, still have it's job

[somber relic]

it's usually anime watcher who got deceived by manga demographic label

their understanding about manga demographic is limited

[weak glacier]

I still think that they should be properly labelled

[somber relic]

with "oooh, Seinen is for adult, shounen is for kid"

[weak glacier]

Regardless of what publishers think

[somber relic]

well, they are wrong

[weak glacier]

Community should just put our own labels
Totally won't start a fuss

[somber relic]

yeah, it's called as age rating, licensors doing that usually

[gusty light]

[weak glacier]

As they should

I think parents should have at least an indicator to the type of content they children is reading

But at the same time Junji Ito's work didn't get age restricted

[gusty light]

I might gonna be insane when a "shounen" manga ended up in Comic Anthurium

if you know what that is

[somber relic]

Comic Anthurim have sfw stuff too just in case you never know about it

[gusty light]

[somber relic]

though it mostly just another random one shot stuff

[gusty light]

ah

[weak glacier]

Ito got a teen rating

My gantz collectio is 18+

I think my HS of the dead too

[somber relic]

yeah, we have to admit that age rating in manga and comic in general is pretty scuffed

manhwa publisher actually done the job better in that part

[weak glacier]

I know people gonna say that age ratings are a form of censorship, but I honestly think it's good for parents to at least have some idea what their children is reading. Especially those damn magical girl manga can be decieving

[gusty light]

Manwha publisher do a bang-up up job way better than Japanese publisher nowadays

[weak glacier]

I need to read more manhwa

Manga quality control is just gone nuts

[somber relic]

but one of the factor is because manhwa published in digitally and doesn't published in a physical magazine

[gusty light]

scuff your fucking freedom, dumbass is what I say to people who bitch about censorship

[somber relic]

well ofc there are older manhwa titles in physical but we don't talk about them

[weak glacier]

Older manhwa gets published and popular manhwa gets publish too

[weak glacier]

100% perfect girl

[gusty light]

modern manhwa are mostly in webtoon format nowadays

[weak glacier]

It's not even censorship, just a label to inform consumers

[weak glacier]

You'll see some at big box retailers when they go big

Solo Leveling et al at target the other dau

[somber relic]

not mostly, more like all

and physical release is just the digital manhwa converted into book

not like the old time

[weak glacier]

Honestly, kind of a good method tbh

[somber relic]

I think I never see any newer manhwa title published originally in physical anymore

[weak glacier]

Print only the popular digital manhwa

I think it saves from authors getting axed

Whereas if you only getting published physically, you have to keep up the margins

[gusty light]

that long strip in most manhwa do confused me when they made it into physical copies

[weak glacier]

Print that shit on legal size paper

[gusty light]

bruh, imagine printing it in F4 paper

[weak glacier]

Minor tangent here

But why the fuck do Japanese and American manga publishers print 2 different sizes

All my Dark Horse et al are printed smaller than Viz et al

No fucking joke

[somber relic]

because most are poor made, when they know how to converted the long strip page properly it does looks good though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725861216290865314/1152027515867635712/image.png?ex=65691ebb&is=6556a9bb&hm=acd683067da3d7f45fb93f93ee3af20f25fd21ad6da5172c639b62bc05087f1c&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725861216290865314/1152027456656650250/image.png?ex=65691ead&is=6556a9ad&hm=0ebcf24c5c21f4b4e4ef1d64a5ca7b5b42358b6ad3ecd07e4211464dcac77101&

[gusty light]

those two kinda gave a similar look on American comic book

[somber relic]

most title which converted into physical nicely usually published by veteran company like YLAB or NAVER

[quaint patrol]

@silver robin these fking kindergarten teachers dont stop the backstories

[somber relic]

yeah you should read it, great stuff

[boreal oyster]

cat bunny

cu—

[somber relic]

bnuuy

[somber relic]

did they drop another copypasta

[quaint patrol]

sorry what?

[weak glacier]

Left 3 are JP and the right are US

[quaint patrol]

kindergarten wars?

[quaint patrol]

from ponta right

[somber relic]

ponta what

[weak glacier]

Tokyopop prints the manga the same size as the JP ones

[quaint patrol]

ponta turned into a human or something

[weak glacier]

RIP tokyopop

[somber relic]

nah

[somber relic]

same with manga licensed in my country

[weak glacier]

How do I explain to new gen manga readers that some manga is read left to right?

[somber relic]

give them old Dark Horse release \

like Blade of The Immortal

[weak glacier]

[quaint patrol]

jp = one way, else = other

[weak glacier]

BEST 25 cent purchase

This is gonna fuck with weebs

This is real manga btw

Published by a Japanese company for Americans to understand otaku culture

[somber relic]

oh, this manga is left to right btw https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725861216290865314/1128829594787663882/Levius_est_-_Chapter_29_-_1.jpg

[quaint patrol]

what was a CN manga called

[weak glacier]

I noticed high art manga tends to read left to right

[weak glacier]

manhua

[somber relic]

thought one of the reason was it supposed to target Belgium and French market

[quaint patrol]

wasnt that korean manga?

[weak glacier]

That's manhwa

[quaint patrol]

[somber relic]

hua is chinese, korean is -hwa

[quaint patrol]

alright

[somber relic]

Taiwanese comic called as manhua as well though

[weak glacier]

It's fun reading comics at times

[somber relic]

no, Levius was edge case

most still right to left

whether the art is god tier or absolute dogshit

[weak glacier]

I meant high art, as in, academic stuff

Like van gough type shit

Also

I hold this manga dear to my heart

[quaint patrol]

visual vomit

[weak glacier]

It's such a fucking hilarious manga

The guy who did wrote this isn't even a professional mangaka

[somber relic]

Blade of The Immortal's Dark Horse license was also an edge case as well because the author ask the publisher to make the manga turned into left to right if they want to sell it to the West

[weak glacier]

He is just some random farmer

here some dark horse manga published in comic form

I regretted the purchase at the time I bought it, but it has grown on me

That's all my novelty anime books

I do have a comic rack if anyone want to see

Come to think, I don't have much marvel or DC

[somber relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726951073792655413/1079575765592588308/BREAKER-BOXSET-3D.png?ex=6563f0c8&is=65517bc8&hm=d2ba44e6f9401585fe9b71892f5ab1da2c4b854a8fc11d136d9c04b632e15907&

I want to buy this

but no money

[weak glacier]

Never heard of ablaze manga

I still need to finish my gantz manga

[somber relic]

they licensed lot of physical manhwa, including this@weak glacier

few manga titles as well but sadly they have bad reputation for it though

[weak glacier]

why?

[somber relic]

absolute horrid image quality

they completely ruined this title https://anilist.co/manga/97671/Cagaster/

it was so fucking bad

wait I give anime link instead

[weak glacier]

Is it in color?

[somber relic]

no

normal manga

[weak glacier]

oh

[quaint patrol]

the title translation?

[somber relic]

yes

[weak glacier]

I have the color manga of HS of the Dead

[quaint patrol]

kinda like magus bride changing slay vega to sleigh beggy

[somber relic]

eh wait, I mean the image quality

not the translation itself

[weak glacier]

Here's my comics

[somber relic]

lot of moire effect and another janky stuff

it ruins your reading experience

[weak glacier]

JPEG artifacts?

[gusty light]

Japanese Manga vs Murican Comics

Which right now is better

[somber relic]

yeah

similar with it

[weak glacier]

Depends on what you want

[somber relic]

^^

we got ton of bad manga

but there are ton of bad comics either

[weak glacier]

Comics are great if don't want you favorite characters to not die or end

[somber relic]

depend on what you are trying to find

[gusty light]

Hmmm... I don't ask what you want but ask your opinion but ok...

do you guys think the rainbow bird content on western comic makes the comic bad?

[weak glacier]

Comics usually have a team of writers and artists so that if one ups and quits the show goes on

[weak glacier]

idk, I don't have an opinion on them

[gusty light]

Hmmm... Oh yea... Noted on this

[weak glacier]

For comics, I recommend just reading the graphic novels or like their collections

[somber relic]

in manhwa industry that's called as studio, in manga it's not common though but they do exist although they are rare

[weak glacier]

That is such a big issue in manga

[somber relic]

not really? why that's an issue

manga author still have assistant most of the times if that what you mean

[weak glacier]

It has a lot of advantages when you have a writer / artist duo because they are separate talents and not everyone can do both

I know they have editors

But like

[somber relic]

well, a reminder that manga author can collab with an artist whenever they want to, there is no limitation for that

[weak glacier]

It's also good to have a team so that a series can continue even when the OG aritst/writer leaves the project

[somber relic]

there is no rule that manga author have to draw their own manga

[weak glacier]

I know it has happened before

I seen some setups like that

[somber relic]

there are lot of them lol

[quaint patrol]

aka literally auditioned an artist for renai daikou

[somber relic]

manga author with different artist is common, they aren't rare at all

[weak glacier]

But it seems annoyingly that when the og artist or author leaves, so does the series

Comic artists are easily replaceable for better or for worse

[somber relic]

but this is also the reason why manhwa which using method like this can easily have their quality detoriating a lot

[weak glacier]

I remember a story at marvel where a writer literally reworked the dialogue to shit on the aritsts opinion

[somber relic]

lot of the time a manhwa which changed the artist sacrificed a great deal of quality because of that

[weak glacier]

The problem is when you have a revolving door. If you have artists that stick long term and the previous artists left notes, then it shouldn't be too bad

If you have people coming in and out constantly, that's when the project staggers

I think a lot of gundam series have teams

Hold on

[somber relic]

you are wrong, more like it's because it's a Franchise

like Fate series

[quaint patrol]

im just gonna say

[somber relic]

with multiple different writers each series

[quaint patrol]

solo leveling's artist change did ok

[somber relic]

but they aren't counted as Studio

don't put series like Gundam or Fate series on the same place with normal comic serialization

[weak glacier]

Oh I know

[somber relic]

there is also another reminder that most Gundam's story original source based on novel as well

[weak glacier]

Gundam is too big of a property

I wish manga had some shared universe

Shit on comics all you want, but it's pretty cool to see your favorite characters kinda show up randomly in each of their stories

I was caught off guard a couple of times

[somber relic]

I wish they don't, I already have enough with my beloved fiction title have convoluted storyline because they shared some part of their plot with another gazilion titles

and also shared universe mean author have excuse to milk the story when they can create another fresh new story instead

[weak glacier]

It has its positives and downsides

Depends on what you trying to do

Most manga is linear

A to B

Comics are

A to B to D, forget about C because it's trash, oh and E? Well it's retconned

[somber relic]

well in manhwa we already have this for example

[weak glacier]

BASED

Manhwa seems more appealling than manga lately

Recommend some series pls

[somber relic]

@weak glaciertry this then

part of Superstring universe series

[weak glacier]

Interesting

[weak glacier]

Looks like that doctor who episode

[weak glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cali7-gif-9616762

[somber relic]

good shit

[weak glacier]

in color too?

[somber relic]

and ppl said Solo Leveling got good art

[weak glacier]

Must take ungodly amount of time to do that

[somber relic]

there is another title which also a part of the manhwa universe but it was published as "manga" because shit was too old and they have to publish it in Japan first in B/W format

https://anilist.co/manga/30736/Shin-Angyo-Onshi

nice embed anilist

[weak glacier]

Art is cool, but hard to decipher what is going on

[somber relic]

well, it's just one of the panel

[weak glacier]

One shot?

[somber relic]

lol no

[weak glacier]

Poor soul

[somber relic]

it got Berserk's vibe

[weak glacier]

I fele berserk is more bold in terms of art

like has more constrast

iirc

[somber relic]

well yeah but you get my point

[somber relic]

also one of the factor was probably because you read it in the licensed format

when you got clean raw stuff

[weak glacier]

lol

[somber relic]

this one was scanlated and never got licensed

so well yeah

[weak glacier]

Yeah, I was about to say it's washed out

[somber relic]

don't expect you get same nice & clean raw as the licensed title

Berserk's scanlation chapter looks ugly as fuck

because of old scanner

[weak glacier]

I heard they have to cut up the manga to scan it

Finding JP manga is cheap

[somber relic]

they literally have to ruin the damn books to scan them

[weak glacier]

There is unintrusive methods

[somber relic]

but also more taxing to do

[weak glacier]

But they crazy expensive

[somber relic]

and also hard

and expensive

yes

[weak glacier]

Light novels are easy. Just OCR it

I do have scans of manuals n shit

takes about an 4 hours to do 60 pages or something

[somber relic]

well it's extremely taxing to do if you want to scan manga

scanlator in the old days have it rough

though they also goated ppl who give us good quality stuff

[weak glacier]

I scanned a magazine

It's hard

hold on uploading one of my scans

Just the cover

80 MBs

@somber relic

[somber relic]

scanlator nowadays just give us super scuffed tl with bad cleaning & redraw and they got the raw from website with cheap price

especially manhwa scannies

they deserve to get DMCA'd all of the time

[weak glacier]

Here's a stich I did

If you want the raw, I can DM you it

Should've saved it as a JPEG

Yes, we had idols in America too

Gonna probably do some more scans in the future
For now, I got a lot of stuff to do

Takes forever

[somber relic]

I still have some of my physical manhwa collection

man

why the have to release the Breaker 3 in long strip format

I can't collect them because of that

[weak glacier]

Too big?

[somber relic]

too big what

[weak glacier]

Long strip

[somber relic]

uh no, I guess no one in korea want to buy manhwa with black and white comic format anymore

sad reality but well

[weak glacier]

oh

[somber relic]

The Breaker 1 and New Wave published in black and white comic format

[weak glacier]

Random phamplet I scanned

It's a flyer

[somber relic]

not with the current the Breaker 3 though

[somber relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725861216290865314/843782023964655616/images_49.jpeg

[weak glacier]

I gotta do some stuff

I'll be back in a hour or two

[somber relic]

[weak glacier]

But hit me up if you have any recs

[somber relic]

The Breaker I posted above

[weak glacier]

[somber relic]

[quaint patrol]

this slime movie feels like several episodes slapped in succession

it doesnt have any movie quality to it

but diablo being gay for rimuru is way funnier than the girls fawning over rimuru

[silver robin]

Yes

[silver robin]

Sauce onegai

[quaint patrol]

no horny

just floof

me: about to read slime LNs

also me: sees 375 pages

alrighty, ill start this one some other time

[slender skiff]

Lmfao

Slime ones are long ye

Only on Bisque Doll

The art is

Wow

@stable herald

Lots of gold moments this one

Like one full strip of them being absolutely goofs

And this lmfao

Bruh what the fuck

[jovial dew]

they done fuck up on subtitle translation in the new JJK episode

Malevolent Shrine = Malevolent Kitchen
Cleave = Dissect
Mahoraga = Makora

[silver robin]

Crunchyroll moment

[stable herald]

Love it

[silver robin]

Sauce

Oh it's a webtoon wao

[stable herald]

Nahh, manhwa.

Newbie max lvl

[silver robin]

Oh that one

[stable herald]

Wait i got the title wrong

Max lvl newbie

[ivory mauve]

PRINCESS!!!!!!

[ivory mauve]

That was god tier

[echo quiver]

remember kids. never leave home without your anti-vampire cutlery

[ivory mauve]

SOON

[echo quiver]

"The wind isn't weeping"

"Yes, it is"

"Oh, so it is"

[jovial dew]

FMA reference

[flat cedar]

that definitely wont happen this season

considering how many episodes are left

unless they shorten orianna kingdom

[trim swan]

told ya

[silver robin]

remember s1 was 20 episodes

so they could pull a sike and do that here too

[trim swan]

why technically

[silver robin]

misplaced word my bad

[trim swan]

sounds cope

[somber relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073874872758980659/1097892151016300594/L5o980ty.png?ex=6565f9be&is=655384be&hm=55d3f00cef1c2e9ce0983e17de0173e76200f3063b512949172fdf353d7a3555&