anime-manga

[flat cedar]

https://vxtwitter.com/allaganeyes/status/1596570423495655424

for context

[thorn briar]

Wtf , source fmab

[flat cedar]

if you played FFXIV and know of the twinning dance

That was the creator of the meme

[boreal oyster]

@stable herald you

[echo quiver]

im the opposite

need more anime

consuuuume

[pallid osprey]

Hey Ender

Read The beginning after the end

[trim swan]

do you read it?

[unkempt briar]

No

[grizzled acorn]

of course yami is a the beginning after the end fan

[echo quiver]

everyone bullying my best friend

[pallid osprey]

[grizzled acorn]

idek why i phrased it like that, its not offensively bad or anything

[inner sphinx]

[silver robin]

replace seasonal anime with non-seasonal anime and thats literally me

[slender skiff]

No

[pallid osprey]

[slender skiff]

If you want me to, finish the series you promised to by the end of the year, and read another manga too

Only fair

[pallid osprey]

If I have to read a new manga

Ehhh

I dont have anything in my mine

[grizzled acorn]

@slender skiff i heavily recommend the beginning after the end, maybe give it a read 👍

I gotchu yami

[slender skiff]

Yami having good taste? Impossible

[boreal oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/975525442062778389.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[boreal oyster]

make him finish one piece first

[slender skiff]

It would be better to give yami an sol

[boreal oyster]

that seasonal yuri anime

give him that

havent finished mine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026218640829321316.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

9 unwatched episodes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/975525442062778389.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

damn me lazy

[grizzled acorn]

My unfiltered opinion is its in the 6-8 ballpark. Id give it like a 7 but it can lean. The mc is very reminiscent of american teen and ya novel protagonists, very sarcastic and snarky fella.

[slender skiff]

An American Idiot basically

[grizzled acorn]

Nah he isnt stupid

[slender skiff]

So I should play some green day while reading this?

I see

[grizzled acorn]

Green day is mid

So no

Hes kinda like Will from rangers apprentice but less earnest. Idk if thats a popular enough example though

Youd get what i meant if you read it...

[slender skiff]

I do not

[grizzled acorn]

Only one way to find out

read rangers apprentice instead

[silver robin]

YOOO its been so long since ive heard of this series

[grizzled acorn]

That shit defined my childhood, ive reread it all like 4 times

I reread it last like 2 years ago, still holds up honestly

[thorn briar]

||She's dead now ||

[ivory mauve]

So gigguk did a re: creators video

Again

https://tenor.com/view/compliment-anime-complicated-recreators-selesia-gif-22423878

[boreal oyster]

ZANKA NO TACHI

https://media.tenor.com/SegAsGRXZYcAAAAM/yamamoto-bankai.gif

[ivory mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/86anime-frederica-eighty-six-derica-squint-gif-25166025

||that's a dude||

[solemn pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/mutsuki-gif-26735018

[slender skiff]

Is that ||lust||?

[thorn briar]

Yes

[slender skiff]

Mustang's best moments

[thorn briar]

Is she ||dead for real ?||

[slender skiff]

Yes

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

Once the ||philosopher stone|| within them are destroyed

They lose their immortality

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

Otherwise they can just regenerate

[thorn briar]

She shocked me when she showed it

[slender skiff]

On a completely different note

only warm bath being a pool of your own blood

Good gods that's dark

[thorn briar]

[stable herald]

wot mango

[ivory mauve]

MARRIAGETOXIN

[normal pebble]

What did he say? I liked the show, what do people think about it anyway?

[slender skiff]

Generally positive iirc

[slender skiff]

https://youtu.be/mXbqHmU7Cv8

[normal pebble]

Weird title

People seems to have overall positive feeling about the show, nice

[thorny nest]

I started "re"watching mushoku tensei

I forgot where I left off when I started it

[grizzled acorn]

Thats pretty genius, but not as genius as me watching 11 episode of ranking of kings, dropping it, and then starting from episode 12 eight months later

[thorny nest]

oh I can do a better one

I "dropped" the op farmer anime after second episode, forgot why and watched episode 3 yesterday, now I remember

[grizzled acorn]

Brilliant

Watch episode 4

[thorny nest]

it's on permanent hold now

I was looking at the isekai titles on MAL earlier

3 pages with 100 titles each and after I went through page one I was like: "I've seen all of them that are interesting to me"

[thorn briar]

, source: fmab

[thorny nest]

[stable herald]

wait what

i cant brain that

huh what

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/862389233338941481.gif?size=64

[trim swan]

watch fmab

smh

[stable herald]

even an assassin had it hard

[thorn briar]

||It's a guy too ||

So ||al lost his body and ed lost his arm and leg to bring their mom back but it turned out it was a guy ||

[stable herald]

Ngl, an assassin venting about his lonely life to someone that is about to die by his own poison, and his higher up watching that through a cctv is a huge secondary embarrassment

[trim swan]

what's the sauce

[stable herald]

@trim swan

[slender skiff]

Aye

It's messed up af

[slender skiff]

To be fair

It only becomes REALLY good in the second half

The first half was good

Second half was

Sugoi

[thorn briar]

I'm getting the feeling that it's more missed up than what i thought before

[slender skiff]

If the whole thing with the dog wasn't bad enough

Yes

[grizzled acorn]

First half was solid setup

I liked all the characters

[trim swan]

[echo quiver]

idk why in [Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury] I expected ||anything else from Suletta||

[silver robin]

owo shonen jump+ series

[echo quiver]

Reborn as a Vending Machine, Now I Wander the Dungeon

what

[grizzled acorn]

Watch the rest of it starting at episode 12 on your deathbed to maximize tomfoolery

[faint crag]

ep 12 is the last one

[faint crag]

I read first volume of that
Was kinda funny actually, tho I haven't read past that

[echo quiver]

oh, there's a to your eternity season 2

i watched season 1 but the name is so forgettable that i forgot i watched it

and how am i supposed to tell it's the same anime from seeing this season 2 art

to your eternity sounded like some gacha game

... wait, i never finished season 1

[grizzled acorn]

Even funnier, wait your entire life to watch the last episode

[echo quiver]

i thought that's what you just said

how is that different from watching it on your deathbed

[thorn briar]

Can u shut up

[grizzled acorn]

I just thought there was more than one episode left

[thorn briar]

She's so annoying to the point that i don't want to see her again

[echo quiver]

she's a great girl

look how cute and innocent she is

she would never do anything to endanger the lives of real people

fml, i didn't finish this one for 10 months

[thorn briar]

She's not even cute

[pallid osprey]

Is Ender around?

[faint crag]

@slender skiff

[pallid osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1013635445990637748/D762496F-7869-4BF2-8935-A8A8FB68BD01.gif

[solemn pollen]

I have a feeling that CSM might be the next jojo, the world is too well made for there not to be multiple parts.

[silver robin]

well luckily for you

there is already a chainsaw man part 2

[solemn pollen]

yes inb4 Yoru starts quoting Sun Tzu and Clausewitz

I can totally see her say, "All warfare is based on deception."

[ivory mauve]

Ok this dude is about 20 to 30ft tall

Absolute unit

Ok, this is a fantasy manga but something has been bothering me for a bit now. One of the main characters has a pretty gnarly looking musket that uses "ether canisters" that resemble 20mm shells.

Then these guys showed up with Freaking POWER ARMOR that have rocket boosters.

The tech tree of this manga is insane.

[solemn pollen]

that's some wargaming level fantasy shit

[ivory mauve]

Wtf!!!!! ||Demon general has a freaking hud||

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-shock-surprised-surprise-monkey-gif-16328898

"Zettai ni Damage wo Ukenai Skill wo Moratta node, Boukensha to shite Musou shite miru"

Manga's name btw

[ivory mauve]

For crying out loud they have VR rooms!! That they use to train

This is wild

[solid nebula]

THE IMPERIUM OF MAN IS IMPRESSED

putting Anti Material in Anti Material

[faint crag]

Baby's first technofantasy

[solid nebula]

give me more of it

https://tenor.com/view/card-flip-swipe-pay-wut-checkout-gif-11170560

[faint crag]

I gave you the genre, now you can google more

Tho not sure it would be easy to find more manga of it.
SF genre terms like that are usually kinda obscure and not that widespread used, so even if there's more - it won't be tagged like that.
I'll be sure to let you know if I do see some tho.

[ivory mauve]

It's rare finding these. The last time i was surprised like this, was when i randomly stumbled upon a Russian graphic novel that was set in a technomedival planet.

Who ordered tactical nukes?

[faint crag]

Holy nukes

[solemn pollen]

trinity school's top of the line weapon

[ivory mauve]

This one kinda fits the genre but it starts off as a isekai

[halcyon dagger]

I am curious, what is that from?

[solid nebula]

OH GOD, UGLY MECHS

welp, back to Titanfall simping

[ivory mauve]

I shared this before

[ivory mauve]

The base mechas are pretty neat.

[halcyon dagger]

sorry, but my memory is not so amazing

[solid nebula]

Personally am not a fan of Anime mecha, it's wack. Howeva mmmm

Atlas Titan

[ivory mauve]

Driving rn

[ivory mauve]

"Yuusha Shoutai Kamoku Yuusha Wa Nagasarenai"

[ivory mauve]

My mecha loving brother. Have you ever heard of Sakura wars

[halcyon dagger]

Sakura wars was a 90s epic

[ivory mauve]

Epic it was

[solid nebula]

Yes

[halcyon dagger]

I do like that the reboot/sequel thing kept the rather rotund design

[ivory mauve]

Fmp mechs are slightly taller than TF Titans

[slender skiff]

I was asleep

That's like 6am local time

[ivory mauve]

They just became more regal

Lifesize statue of a titan

I think there's a total of about 14 to 20 mecha franchises that their mechs are about the same size.

[stable herald]

whats the manga name?

[stable herald]

bless thighs

[stable herald]

its ur fault i would ask for this sauce. But nahh, issokay i dont want it to be a hassle for cha

[ivory mauve]

"Isshiki-san wa Koi wo shiritai."!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stable herald]

Yay

[ivory mauve]

[stable herald]

i love u kai

[stable herald]

Guess i got 4 more on the list

[ivory mauve]

[stable herald]

CUTE

[stable herald]

She got ambushed in a carriage ride to the capital

REEEEEEEe

well, goodluck attacking her ig....shes the strongest sword in the kingdom anyway

[slender skiff]

Masamune kun no revenge is...

A bit

It's not bad it's just why

[stable herald]

idk, i just put it there

if there reason for me not to, go on. im interested, so i wont be wastin my time

[slender skiff]

Like the standard just

Crashes dramatically after the first half

Which is near where s1 stopped

Everything afterwards is chaos incarnate

FMP is a classic tho

[stable herald]

Oh ender

if i may ask. Should i read Akagami no Shirayukihime from the start or start where the anime ended?

[slender skiff]

As much as I'm reading it ever so slowly

The anime really doesn't cover much

I personally just read from the beginning

[stable herald]

Got it

tq

[slender skiff]

Though you don't really lose anything from not doing so

Imo

I still have like

60? Chaps to catch up on

For masamune I would just watch the anime

[stable herald]

ooh huh

first anime ended at chapter 17

[slender skiff]

Yeah I think the 2 seasons cover like 30+ chaps at best

It is a monthly

So each chapter is quite long

[stable herald]

well, ngl the anime is well made in animation

i didnt read the manga so idk bout content wise

[slender skiff]

Hayamin helps a lot

Let's be real here

[faint crag]

@slender skiff Myne would be proud of me.
I've officially finished 4 volumes in slightly more than 2 days

[slender skiff]

It really is the Ascendance of a Bookworm!

The Res Arc

Well that does mean you're 4 steps closer to the

[faint crag]

(obviously spoilers for Bookworm)
||I'm convinced that Rozemyne and Willfred marriage is a bait, same way the whole "Myne, you'll get adopted by Karstedt" was. I either expect her to marry Sylvester (they hinted at it a bit too hard from literally the very start) or be pushed to become an aub after all.||
Obviously I don't need you to confirm or deny it, Ender
Because I know you.

(the second option seems most likely considering the trend so far)

(it's called ASCENDANCE of a Bookworm after all)

||There's technically also an option of her marrying into royalty I guess, but there was no hints so far. But I still have 5 volumes in this part.||

[slender skiff]

I actually legit don't know where the story will go

I could read the web novel to find out

But the machine translation is atrocious

Like I think I know where it will?

||Frankly as I was reading I expected her to eventually marry Ferdinand||

Not an actual spoiler^ just a theory

[faint crag]

It hints at it a lot

[slender skiff]

The one issue with that is

Literally what the 5th arc is called

[faint crag]

Haven't looked yet

[slender skiff]

That said even if you did look at what it's called

It's only gonna make you scratch your head even more like

[faint crag]

Ah, I did
Yea it told me nothing

[slender skiff]

How the hell does that work???

[faint crag]

I mean
It still counts as ascendance I guess????

[slender skiff]

That's

True yes

Just quite a different level all together

[faint crag]

a bit

[slender skiff]

Part 5 Vol 7 cover isn't quite subtle

But it does look amazing

[faint crag]

I'll refrain from checking it for now then

[slender skiff]

Yeah any cover from after part 5 vol 6 is quite a spoiler

I will say tho

[slender skiff]

So much happens in these 5 vols

You'll

What do you mean it's just her second year

At a school with 6 years

Abslsijemwskjss

[faint crag]

Yea I was thinking about that as well
"Whew, almost halfway done, we're whole.... a single year through????"

[slender skiff]

To quote her caregivers

I think you sent it to me

I haven’t had this bad of a headache since my first Archduke Conference! Curse that little problem child!

[faint crag]

[slender skiff]

1 year later

Like the before and after comparison is hilarious

[faint crag]

Contain Rozemyne Committee

[slender skiff]

They're gonna go bald at this rate

Which, as a reminder, Karstedt and Sylvester are in like, early 30s at oldest

[boreal oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/991488352064901191.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[slender skiff]

[unkempt briar]

[ivory mauve]

Oi what

[stable herald]

Excuse me what

Thats very gay

but cute at the same time

anyway

YOOO

This manga mannn

its just like fate, demon lords be pulling out gacha historical heroes

[ivory mauve]

Pffff

[stable herald]

ngl, female fuma kotarou is hot asf

Excuse me what

What is this knock off beast tamer

Tho i do like bout this manga, its quite good, and mc also quite the bold lad

[faint crag]

for those who don't know the context

[stable herald]

no no

i still didnt understand

[stable herald]

BRo

this mfker just speedrun any % for beast taming

Dude tamed her at chapter 2, then a dragon at chapter 3

There only 4 chapter as of now

3 chapter, dude alr got 3 tamed S-rank

[slender skiff]

I'll stick to the anime airing now

[echo quiver]

wwait

that's not beast tamer

[trim swan]

what is it then

[echo quiver]

isn't this the ||same plot|| as beast tamer [the tv adaptation]

[slender skiff]

This one seems a lot more hardcore

Art wise at least

[grizzled acorn]

I think i have a gift for skipping over the best show that airs in each season

an actual talent

[echo quiver]

i mean, yes, but you see, it's good for you

means you have more anime to watch later

[grizzled acorn]

true but I want to watch bocchi the rock now. but alas, i started psycho-pass and im already committed to finishing that first

[echo quiver]

it's like when you're shopping for potatoes, and you find a 90% off sale on fresh tomatoes

wait, bad analogy

[grizzled acorn]

nah, shakespeare is crawling in his grave rn

[echo quiver]

it's like when you're looking for some isekai to pass the time, but you find bocchi the rock from the previous season

[grizzled acorn]

he wishes he could formulate such a brilliant sentence

[echo quiver]

take that, shakespeare

[trim swan]

[unkempt briar]

"Masculinity Rediscovered"
"Become A Man Again"

[grizzled acorn]

@unkempt briar fate type/redline is not good

take it off the plan to read

[unkempt briar]

as if im actually gonna touch my plan to read section OMEGALUL

[grizzled acorn]

its about the principal

[unkempt briar]

ok then how about this

[unkempt briar]

One Piece is not good, take it off your list

[grizzled acorn]

that would take literally 1/6th off of the time that ive watched anime

[unkempt briar]

is fate strange fake good

[grizzled acorn]

havent read it but yes

[unkempt briar]

how do you know if you havent read it

[grizzled acorn]

ender can vouch, and ive heard good things from other sources

[unkempt briar]

just cause its got gil on the cover?

[grizzled acorn]

gilgamesh is quite attractive i do admit

[faint crag]

I wasn't a big fan, but I didn't really try to get into it admittedly

[slender skiff]

Yes

But of course

That requires you to actually like fate to begin with

SF is at minimum apocrypha done right I guess?

[grizzled acorn]

he uhhh, he likes fate zero... i think?

[unkempt briar]

i love fate zero and hate ubw, so mixed bag i guess

[slender skiff]

It is darker

But the main diff it's more of

There isn't really a single protag

[unkempt briar]

so its more like fate zero

good

[slender skiff]

There's no clear protagonist in strange fake

Zero is clear with Kiritsugu

[grizzled acorn]

what?

kirei isnt the protagonist?

[sweet oxide]

I watched the first episode of Arknights today , I got enough "doctah" for today

[slender skiff]

Kirei isn't in any world the protagonist no

[grizzled acorn]

he's my protagonist

[echo quiver]

you need more

there's never enough amiya saying dokutah

[grizzled acorn]

i mean technically, the novel and anime start from kirei's perspective...

[sweet oxide]

it exist

[slender skiff]

Ultimately

[slender skiff]

It is a very different take on gil

[grizzled acorn]

is it closer to babylonia gil?

or is it a third gilgamesh take

[slender skiff]

Closer to this

But still has plenty of the arrogance

It's still "archer" gil

In all his kingly glory

The only reason he even begins to take the war seriously is cos enkidu is also there

[grizzled acorn]

that might be peak gil

[slender skiff]

It would be

Their battle is the first servant battle in the entire war

[grizzled acorn]

he was awesome in babylonia

[slender skiff]

And let's say they almost destroyed a desert

[grizzled acorn]

||vs enkidu?||

[slender skiff]

Aye

[grizzled acorn]

3 days and 3 nights?

[slender skiff]

They both were ready to fire off their respective enuma elish

Just one night
It's a holy grail war

[grizzled acorn]

aw

[slender skiff]

But were interrupted

Gil doesn't steamroll the competition

[grizzled acorn]

I hope whoever interrupted dies

[slender skiff]

Which is interesting

I'll ask you this

How do you kill the concept of pestilence

[grizzled acorn]

grow crops lol

[echo quiver]

that's famine

[grizzled acorn]

oh wait yeah thats disease

[echo quiver]

pestilience is sickness

[grizzled acorn]

idk get vaccinatedd

[slender skiff]

Pestilence destroys the crops ye

[echo quiver]

ya

kill everyone. no more disease

[grizzled acorn]

i mix them up a lot

[echo quiver]

🧠

[slender skiff]

The (false) rider

Of strange fake

[grizzled acorn]

because pestilence was talked about a lot with the irish potato faminen

[slender skiff]

Is one of the horseman of the apocalypse

Pestilence

[grizzled acorn]

or the word was thrown around a lot, respectively

[slender skiff]

In the series it's called Pale Rider

[grizzled acorn]

wait is strange fake the one with Sigma?

[slender skiff]

Yes

[grizzled acorn]

BIG

10/10

[slender skiff]

(future) True lancer

It has a lot of callbacks to other fate works

Zero, stay night and apoc being the main ones

Many references to these works

[grizzled acorn]

||isnt jack the ripper in this one too? but like a different jack?||

iirc my friend was talking about that

[slender skiff]

That he is

Berserker

[grizzled acorn]

W,

[slender skiff]

But despite being a berserker

He's actually the epitome of sanity

[grizzled acorn]

that sums up the man

[slender skiff]

It's hard to even call berserker ||jack the ripper||

[grizzled acorn]

did the most brutal murders ever, yet they were calculated enough for him to evade arrest

[slender skiff]

Even he? Himself doesn't know what he is

It's not like the one in apoc

An amalgamation of all the unborn children

[grizzled acorn]

im just trying to remember who all the servants in that war are, and every time i remember who fills each class im like "WAIT THATS AWESOME"

[slender skiff]

This one is quite literally the amalgamation of every legend

Of JTR

[grizzled acorn]

i think caster is ||Alexandre Dumas|| (giga chad)

and thats huge

[echo quiver]

i remember when i told someone that was real. it sounded like a real legend

im never trusting fate to teach me history ever again

[grizzled acorn]

apocrypha honestly had a really interesting take on JTR

i really liked it

[silver robin]

isekai ojisan came back finally

[grizzled acorn]

you gotta do your post fate session independent research, unironically learned a lot like that.

[echo quiver]

how was i supposed to know ||jack the ripper|| was going to come up in conversation

[silver robin]

renai flops is anime of this season btw

[echo quiver]

what in the world is renai flops, and does it have anything to do with renai circulation

[grizzled acorn]

youre supposed to do live fact checks of what fate throws at you

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

False Archer: ||Gilgamesh||
False Lancer: ||Enkidu||
False Rider: ||Pestilence/Pale Rider||
False Caster: ||Alexander Dumas||
False Assassin: ||No Name Assassin/Zealot (A Fake Hassan)||
False Berserker: ||Jack the Ripper||
Saber: ||Richard the Lionheart||
True Archer ||/Avenger||: ||Hercules/Alcides||
True Lancer: ||Sigma (becomes so in the future). Guided by his "servant", Watcher||
True Rider: ||Hippolyta||
True Caster: ||Francesco Prelati||
True Assassin: ||Hassan-i-sabah (unknown title)||
True Berserker: ||Huwawa||

[grizzled acorn]

"oh, gilgamesh has a reality destroying sword? yeah, i dont think so. googles"

[silver robin]

renai flops is a studio passione original

[echo quiver]

o, i just watched a passione thingy

uhhhh

[silver robin]

studio passione is known for doing most of the halfway decent borderline hentai anime

[echo quiver]

miko something

[slender skiff]

That took forever to type geezus

[echo quiver]

is that why

[silver robin]

within the last couple years

[grizzled acorn]

oh is it a team battle of false vs true or is it a fucking rumble

[silver robin]

[echo quiver]

it was so RANDOMLY fanservicey

[slender skiff]

Rumble

It's not like apoc

[grizzled acorn]

awesome

[slender skiff]

Though there are alliances

[silver robin]

[echo quiver]

everyone was complaining about the fanservice in the first few episodes of the one i watched

[grizzled acorn]

happens

[silver robin]

see i told you

[echo quiver]

ya, this one

[slender skiff]

Some of the alliances are just

[echo quiver]

it mellows out a lot after episode 3 or so

[slender skiff]

Weird

[echo quiver]

but episodes 1-3 were like, "guess im on an fbi watchlist now"

[slender skiff]

Tbh

The masters are just as interesting as the servants

[silver robin]

[grizzled acorn]

if gil and enkidu dont ally the whole time and have a very wholesome bl relationship, missed win

[silver robin]

so renai flops is an anime original by passione

and its good

[grizzled acorn]

sigma.

[slender skiff]

They don't

Why would they?

[grizzled acorn]

fan service

[slender skiff]

They just want to fight each other remember?

They don't want to kill each other sure

[grizzled acorn]

nah if you were a scholar, you would know that theyre best friends and journeyed together in the epic of gilgamesh

[echo quiver]

i was looking for [renai flops] tags and accidentally spotted this character out of the corner of my eye

[slender skiff]

In this case they're looking for battles

[echo quiver]

lmao wtf

[slender skiff]

Which is unfortunately

A bit difficult

When there's 11 other servants

And a random ||Ishtar||

[grizzled acorn]

11 other assholes

[echo quiver]

ill put renai flops on my watchlist since it's comedy and i liked miko-chan

[slender skiff]

The issue is this

She's also here

[grizzled acorn]

wait i just looked at that list, whys there only one saber

[slender skiff]

And I don't mean the Rin face

I mean true, honest to goodness, ||Ishtar||

[grizzled acorn]

isnt fsf ishtar albino?

[slender skiff]

She uses an einzbern homunculus

[grizzled acorn]

ah

[slender skiff]

But she has far larger reign of her powers

[grizzled acorn]

big! irisviel clone!

[slender skiff]

To put it bluntly

[silver robin]

hes not kfc related, hes just a minor character in one of the episodes

[echo quiver]

[slender skiff]

The false servants serve as catalysts for the true servants to be summoned

Saber is the one that completes the false war

[echo quiver]

nice try, but ive seen all the ads this studio does

[slender skiff]

Hence why it's called a false war

[silver robin]

[echo quiver]

they even put stuff like, "this anime was sponsored by..." title cards

[slender skiff]

To put it bluntly

[echo quiver]

[silver robin]

just watch it

like watch ep 1

[echo quiver]

kfc giving them big money behind the scenes

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

This Ishtar is the reason why FGO Ishtar didn't have her goddamn gugalanna

Resulting in that hilarious scene

[echo quiver]

k-katanaaaaa?

[grizzled acorn]

that scene was so fucking funny

gils face

it was so good

[slender skiff]

The bull of the heavens

Gugalanna

[echo quiver]

i mean, g-gugalannaaaaaaa?

i remember gugalanna. hard to forget a face that ||stomps your entire team to death with one of its hooves||

[silver robin]

this is in last week's episode which im watching now

[echo quiver]

oh no

[grizzled acorn]

dont tell me if this happens, but i really hope ishtar is just lusting after gil the entire time, and gil is just completely disinterested (more real gil lore allusions)

[silver robin]

i would post the title of episode 6 but id get banned by ender

[grizzled acorn]

i would find it a funny dynamic, especially considering gil in zero and stay night

[silver robin]

so uh

yea

[echo quiver]

passione moment. they truly live up to their name

[silver robin]

ender don't ban me please

[slender skiff]

Kill la Kill:

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

Nah

[echo quiver]

this is the prequel to kill la kill's nudist beach?

[slender skiff]

She's just out for murder

And Gil's one act of arrogance/carelessness

[echo quiver]

this is my headcanon now

[slender skiff]

At the very start of the war

Is ruthlessly exploited by her

She quite literally summons that bloody bull

In America

To kill them both

[grizzled acorn]

ender who is president during this war

[slender skiff]

Not a real one

[grizzled acorn]

and is the u.s. president a master

dammit

[silver robin]

its bush

trust me

[slender skiff]

Tbh

[silver robin]

(i haven't watched fate that much)

[slender skiff]

If you go from a timeline perspective

[grizzled acorn]

Jeb Bush and like, fucking Richard the Lionheart would be awesome

[slender skiff]

Obama

[echo quiver]

idk why i had the sudden desire to see senator armstrong as both president and a master

[grizzled acorn]

that would be epic

[slender skiff]

Since SF is set 10 years after when stay night should take place

[grizzled acorn]

Barack Obama and Gilgamesh

im opening photoshop

[slender skiff]

It's hard to say if stay night took place in this timeline

Same with zero

[silver robin]

they also did this to the male protagonist because of it

[grizzled acorn]

"dont worry about it" -Confucius

[echo quiver]

sensible

[slender skiff]

I will say tho

[echo quiver]

can't corrupt- oh, that's a FULL head one

[slender skiff]

Strange Fake is a fate work where

You will always be surprised

[echo quiver]

poor guy

[slender skiff]

Like how waver literally faints

When he finds out his pupil is a master

(poor Gray had to save him)

[grizzled acorn]

GRAY IS BACK???

[slender skiff]

Gray isn't mentioned by name I think?

[silver robin]

ender can i dm you an image to see if i can post it

[slender skiff]

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

But she most definitely is there

Waver most certainly is back tho

And plays a bigger role as the story goes by

[echo quiver]

ender:
sam:

[slender skiff]

Zero almost certainly did happen though

Cos waver has iskandar's catalyst

And gil mentions being summoned before

Just that he doesn't remember anything

[grizzled acorn]

i just made the worst photoshop edit and it has me in shambles

just not even bothering to fully hide Obama's wife

[echo quiver]

this is canon

[slender skiff]

The thing is

I should make it clear

Gil struggles in this war

True Archer counters him ridiculously well

[grizzled acorn]

if he didnt that would just be a bad writing decision. like him sweeping works in zero and stay night, but the protagonist outside of a power fantasy shouldnt be soloing shit

[slender skiff]

I mean

True Archer is literally immune to all human made weapons

[grizzled acorn]

skill issue

[slender skiff]

So Gil can only hurt him with divine constructs

[silver robin]

is this the same archer that ||shirou becomes|| or a different one

[slender skiff]

No

[grizzled acorn]

he should have plenty of those, quite literally

[slender skiff]

True Archer in strange fake is

||Hercules||

Or at least

He was summoned as such

He was ||corrupted into becoming an Avenger class by his master, changing his name to Alcides, his childhood name||

[grizzled acorn]

that man always has the goofiest abilities

[slender skiff]

Not nearly as much
Significantly less even

[grizzled acorn]

his chains are divine arent they?

[silver robin]

||you mean Heracles||

[slender skiff]

Here's the issue

Because of his conversion

He is no longer divine

The chains do jack shit

[grizzled acorn]

did his chains only work against divinity?

[slender skiff]

Significantly stronger against it

Just as a reminder

[grizzled acorn]

Iskandar wasnt divine

so

[slender skiff]

Herc broke out of the chains in UBW anyways

Iskandar is divine

Lol

[grizzled acorn]

in what fucking world

hes just a dude

[slender skiff]

Descendant of Zeus

He has the fucking bulls too

[grizzled acorn]

i thought he just had em

as like a gift from the gods

for being awesome

[slender skiff]

The bulls only have that power because he sacrificed them to Zeus

[grizzled acorn]

i need to brush up on my alexander the great lore

[slender skiff]

Very few non divine servants

Will be that strong

[grizzled acorn]

i would be

personally

[slender skiff]

There's your proof anyways

[silver robin]

does EX mean insta win against anything

[slender skiff]

Cannot be measured

[grizzled acorn]

yeah, i completely forgot that part of his real life legend was he believed he was the son of zeus

[slender skiff]

It doesn't mean it's strong

[silver robin]

so insta win against anything

[slender skiff]

It's just that it's impossible to quantify the strength

[grizzled acorn]

i think "this dudes just a normal ass guy why is he divine"

[slender skiff]

There are many weak NPs

[grizzled acorn]

then i remember that he is insane

[slender skiff]

That are EX rank

[silver robin]

hmm

interesting

[grizzled acorn]

name 5, i expect a full thesis and argument as to why they are weak

provide counterclaims and fully rebuke them. your essay is due tomorrow

[slender skiff]

■ Divinity: C
Despite the absence of clear evidence, according to many stories it is said he is the son of Zeus, the greatest of gods.

Basically it

[grizzled acorn]

yeah he believed he was, i forgot

its funny though

well, some of the recountings of the man said he believed he was the son of zeus, not confirmed if he actually thought that, i think

based if true

[slender skiff]

So the chains of the heavens

Scale in strength the more divine you are

Herc is about almost as divine as it gets

And yet

In UBW

(at least the UBW anime)

He successfully breaks out of the chains in a last ditch effort to kill gil

[silver robin]

but in the disney movie hades stripped him of his godlihood with a drug, and he gave it up to remain with his human lover

[slender skiff]

Like

[grizzled acorn]

my honest reaction

[slender skiff]

That said

I chalk that more up to

It's Herc being herc

As in, defying the gods

[grizzled acorn]

he is simply built different

[slender skiff]

Rather than brute strength

Ok let's see

Ex rank NPs

Mahapralaya, understandable

The damn thing is stronger than ea

Alf Layla wa-Layla (Scheherezade), anti king

[echo quiver]

Kiyohime's transforming flames

[grizzled acorn]

fujino's np is ex

idk if youre counting her though

[slender skiff]

Amita Amitābha (Buddha/Kiara)

Given Buddha using his NP in extra is an instant KO

Well

David's Ark

Ars Almadel Salomonis (the erase from history thing)

Avalon (which is completely defensive)

[grizzled acorn]

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Category:EX_rank_Noble_Phantasms

[slender skiff]

Fucking hell

Nursery rhyme is an ex rank NP

Proves my point

[grizzled acorn]

theres one example for ya

i saw that too and im like... no?

[slender skiff]

Even riceman has an ex NP

Touta I mean

[grizzled acorn]

honestly, Nursery Rhyme's np is pretty strong though

[slender skiff]

Heck even Benkei's NP is EX

Benkei

[grizzled acorn]

benkei got fodderized in babylonia

[slender skiff]

Tbh

The strongest NPs are usually the A++ ones

Rather than EX

Cos ex ones aren't really practical

[grizzled acorn]

enfer chateu d'if

[slender skiff]

Let's be honest here

[grizzled acorn]

actually thats just A+

[slender skiff]

Out of the legitimately summonable servants

Dantes is like

Top 3

[grizzled acorn]

depends, he got 2 skadi's with him?

[slender skiff]

He's actually really strong in lore

Like unbelievably strong

[grizzled acorn]

he can move at near light speed or something

i should acquaint myself with the Fate edmond lore, considering the count of monte cristo is my favorite book, but i havent

[slender skiff]

Light speed movement, and the brain power to keep up with it

Immunity to poison, and any mental debuffs

Able to conceal name, class, parameters etc

Near infinite regeneration

Can give allies basically a revive from death

[grizzled acorn]

i was with you, nodding my head along cause the rest of that made sense

but infinite regeneration?

[slender skiff]

Wait and Hope

Remember?

Attendre esperer

[grizzled acorn]

increased regeneration made sense, for that reason and a few others

[slender skiff]

Mind you he was able to kill a dead apostle

[grizzled acorn]

but whys it infinite

[slender skiff]

As long as there's hope

[grizzled acorn]

thats kinda genius

[slender skiff]

And ofc nigh ridiculous stats

Item construction despite not being a caster

[grizzled acorn]

he is a man of science

of course he can make shit

where's his infinite bank account stat

[slender skiff]

He does have one

Golden rule

[grizzled acorn]

huge

skill 2

W

[slender skiff]

He's probably the only non divine servant in like top 10?

[grizzled acorn]

we gotta go through every summonable servant and rank them in terms of strength

[slender skiff]

Keyword

[grizzled acorn]

and go like, full scientific debate mode

[slender skiff]

Summonable

You do not count Arjuna alter

Or everything is meaningless

[grizzled acorn]

no i count arjuna alter ive got him on my account bro

[slender skiff]

True Arjuna alter completely destroys everything

Including Gil

Ea is nothing against mahapralaya

[grizzled acorn]

his np is just him cutting the universe in half

phil swift on a cosmic scale

[slender skiff]

I mean what's reconstructing the world compared to destroying the entire universe

[grizzled acorn]

he fixed it with flex tape

[slender skiff]

On a side note

Mood

[stable herald]

El best waifu

[grizzled acorn]

so is that a yes to going full debate mode on ranking all summonable servants?

that could be like a 50 hour scholarly session

[silver robin]

ask ender to make a fate thread

which ive asked him to make a while ago but he denied

[grizzled acorn]

nah i want random goons to get swept up in fate conversation so they watch it if they havent already

forceful conversion to the cult

[silver robin]

you won't convert me

[slender skiff]

Sam

[grizzled acorn]

ubw is in your mal favorites

i dont need to

[slender skiff]

Watch bookworm

Or better still read it

[grizzled acorn]

ender yet again ignoring sam's pleas for a fate thread

[slender skiff]

Can I convert you to a bookworm instead

[silver robin]

maybe

[grizzled acorn]

to really get started on your adventure to becoming a bookworm, you need to start with the classics, like shakespeare, methinks

[silver robin]

but i barely have time to watch non seasonal

especially when the seasonal watch list is very long

and is only getting longer every season unironically

[slender skiff]

Then read

[silver robin]

no time for that too

[slender skiff]

Sam

I require your wisdom

[silver robin]

ok...

[slender skiff]

What's a bunkobon and tankobon

[silver robin]

tankoubon is a collection of short stories

actually nvm

[slender skiff]

O

[slender skiff]

Well

I understood even less now

Aaaanyways

[silver robin]

elaborate

maybe i can help in places google can't

[slender skiff]

The new Kono Light Novel Ga Sugoi Awards are out

[silver robin]

show me

[slender skiff]

Surprising absolutely no one

[silver robin]

tf is "chitose kun is in the ramune bottle"

[slender skiff]

Otonari no tenshi going strong

TAKE THAT ALYA

[silver robin]

YEA

[slender skiff]

Gimai needs more popularity tho

As for why I asked for tankobon

[silver robin]

oh its a harem

[slender skiff]

Mushoku? What's that

[silver robin]

i think all of those are actual LNs

and not 1 volume then done

lol

[slender skiff]

I should put dahlia in bloom on my read list

Didn't expect bookworm to hit first tho

[silver robin]

damn the brunhild one is recent

2022

like mid 2022 too

[slender skiff]

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Wait seriously?

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

Kadokawa owns ANN?

[silver robin]

i remember going to the ann panel during anime expo

and the guy was talking about how he worked both this actual software job and ann for a long time until ann made enough money so he could quit

good for him now

[slender skiff]

Oh wow

Cote finally entering the hall of fame lmao

The following are series inducted into the Hall of Fame. Series in the Hall of Fame will not be considered in future rankings

[silver robin]

damn ramune bottle that popular?

both author and artist seem new

also the second best one seems interesting

[silver robin]

"im fine with being second girlfriend"

[slender skiff]

That sounds interesting

WAIT THIS IS JUST KANOJO MO KANOJO

[silver robin]

kinda yes and kinda no

[slender skiff]

(not)

Mahiru got best girl for a second year in a row

[silver robin]

lol

[slender skiff]

Kei 2nd

Yukino 3rd

[silver robin]

[slender skiff]

Myne is 4th

Pog

[silver robin]

spy classroom is getting an anime too

[slender skiff]

For guys
Ayanokouji won

Amane was 3rd

[silver robin]

oh ender

speaking of spy classroom

[slender skiff]

Yeah they have the same artist

Speaking of artist

...ryuu no oshigoto and 86 have the same artist?

[silver robin]

[grizzled acorn]

myne cannot possibly be ranked #4 for best girl

[silver robin]

myne from bookworm, not myne from shield hero

[grizzled acorn]

i know

[slender skiff]

I mean the first 3 are all behemoths

[grizzled acorn]

myne from shield hero isnt relevant enough to even be considered a conversation piece atm imo

[slender skiff]

All very big series

[grizzled acorn]

ive not heard about like half of those

[slender skiff]

I've heard everything besides ramune

[silver robin]

i hadn't heard of ramune bottle and dahlia

until now

[grizzled acorn]

5, 7, 8, 9 ive never heard of

[slender skiff]

8 and 9 are both very popular in Japan

[silver robin]

the "yuusha-kei ni shosu" one is very underground, cause i can only find the manga version on mal

[slender skiff]

Gimai is getting an anime

Alya is almost certainly going to as well

[grizzled acorn]

honestly i half expected like 3 of the top 10 girls to be cote. or can each series only have one representative?

[slender skiff]

Nah

Can have multiple

[grizzled acorn]

kei also isnt best girl from cote

[slender skiff]

That's just how overwhelmingly popular kei is

[grizzled acorn]

easy times create weak men

[slender skiff]

The year before

[grizzled acorn]

ICHINOSE ON THE BOARD LETS GO

[slender skiff]

She's constantly on the board till this year ye

[grizzled acorn]

people last year were a little bit smarter

[slender skiff]

No it's more of there are just better series

[grizzled acorn]

i just realized 8 and 9 from last year are from ramune bottle too, how havent you heard of it

you should be caught up by now

[silver robin]

ok the 6th one here is so underground i can't find it on MAL, but i found it on amazon and syosetu https://ncode.syosetu.com/n8239gp/

[slender skiff]

I don't think it's in English?

[silver robin]

it is

very recent though

cause original LN vol 1 came out in 2021

[slender skiff]

Just 2 volumes in English

As of now

[silver robin]

nvm its 2019

published by yen press since march 15 2022

[stable herald]

OH MY GOD ELLE

WOOOOAHHH

This gave me quite the goosebumps ngl

wtf

[slender skiff]

There's probably fan TLs

If it's that popular

Alya certainly does

[silver robin]

yep

its translated up until end of vol 4

fan tl wise

[stable herald]

Shes Gorgeous asf

@ivory mauve

[silver robin]

although theres 7 volumes out total in jp

[slender skiff]

Dahlia has 5 official

[grizzled acorn]

fun fact, El is the supreme god of the Canaanites

also a supreme god in early Mesopotamia

thats the allusion, youre welcome.

[slender skiff]

A year before that even

[stable herald]

tq for the info

[grizzled acorn]

i forgot that bunny girl was originally a LN

[slender skiff]

All of these have anime

[grizzled acorn]

sad to see Mai fade off the board

[slender skiff]

Oh you know why?

Series was on hiatus