anime-manga

[faint crag]

but not me huh

[unkempt briar]

add me bih

https://anilist.co/user/Yuniversal/

[faint crag]

[unkempt briar]

[faint crag]

🤝

ok nvm

https://tenor.com/view/wash-hands-anime-gif-10323419

[grizzled acorn]

how could you hate ubw

gil balls out

[unkempt briar]

UBW is dog doodoo

[grizzled acorn]

Im just gonna tell myself youre thinking about 2006 stay night

[faint crag]

having shit taste is not prohibited, but it should be

[unkempt briar]

[ivory mauve]

Takao suffering is delicious

[grizzled acorn]

get those goofy comments outta here and follow me back

https://anilist.co/user/vNights/

[thorn briar]

U can follow each other in anilist

[grizzled acorn]

my life will peak once i get my first anilist follower

[unkempt briar]

Followed

[pallid osprey]

Yep

For tracking the process of your friend

[grizzled acorn]

My life has peaked

Gg

[faint crag]

Yea I saw it and decided not to comment on it

[silver robin]

You can do in mal as well

[grizzled acorn]

Mal gang 🤝💪

[silver robin]

🤝

[thorn briar]

[grizzled acorn]

Mal doesnt have followers, it has friends 💯

[faint crag]

Which is why I don't use mal - I don't have friends

[thorn briar]

But how do we post ours here

[ivory mauve]

Wait there's a website where it tracks what anime you've watch.

https://tenor.com/view/dedikodu-gossip-shock-şaşırmak-shocking-gif-19902616

[faint crag]

It does

[grizzled acorn]

Thats tough

[ivory mauve]

I've only been using paper and pencil

[silver robin]

there's multiple yes

But yea i used chrome bookmarks initially

still do

[grizzled acorn]

I used to etch my ratings on the wall of a cave

[unkempt briar]

Sam says he’s MAL gang but he rarely updates it 😔

[ivory mauve]

wierd way to check measurements.

[unkempt briar]

MAL also has a “Top Friends” function where you get to pin your favorite MAL friends for easy access, idk if Anilist has something similar

[grizzled acorn]

Why am i not there??

What are you saying

[ivory mauve]

Oof

[grizzled acorn]

😭

[silver robin]

Why am i not there

[thorn briar]

Discord is somehow lagging

[unkempt briar]

My top friends are super old MAL friends, like I’ve known PrincessMomonoke for like 7-8 years now she was my first ever MAL friend

Maybe I’ll unpin one of my inactive friends for you

[grizzled acorn]

Bro we've been mal buddies for 26 years wtf

[silver robin]

You have like over 1k mal friends though surely some of them are inactive

[last quiver]

Why this is so wholesome somehow?

[grizzled acorn]

Its wholesome until you look at Yuni's ubw rating

[last quiver]

I mean... Brutal but honest

[silver robin]

Look at yunis show reviews

[grizzled acorn]

I read his cyberpunk one; sent the first sentence out of context to my friend who loves cyberpunk and refused to elaborate

[unkempt briar]

Based

[grizzled acorn]

He got really mad

Man went on a rant, dunno if i should post it here but i can send it to you if you wanna see the fruits of your labor

[unkempt briar]

Nah I’m good

[last quiver]

[grizzled acorn]

Missing out

[unkempt briar]

I’ve already had enough weird reactions to the review

if anything it proves people don’t read, at least not past the first couple lines

I might try to write a Bocchi the Rock review when it’s done airing cause I have a lot to say about it

[grizzled acorn]

My friend is literate, but i cut it off where you said "naturally, people who like good anime will not like cyberpunk"

We do a little bit of manipulating information

[unkempt briar]

Just a lil bit

gotta admit tho it did work as clickbait

[thorn briar]

This is mine and yes i simp for gilgamesh

[last quiver]

Yes shiro we know

[thorn briar]

I wanted to name it the same name as here , but they said that it was taken

I had to use avp's name

[last quiver]

Aww poor little dwarf

[grizzled acorn]

So based

I love gilgamesh

[unkempt briar]

We all know the best fate character is Iskandar

Followed closely by Kiritsugu

[grizzled acorn]

For me its Kirei followed by kiri

Iskandar is goated tho, fate zero cast is strong af overall

[thorn briar]

I'm not dwarf u makima's pet

[grizzled acorn]

That aint avps name

Just parceval is the fucking ready player one guy or something

[thorn briar]

Isn't that her 3rd name

[grizzled acorn]

The way you spelt it is just a mathematician, actually

[thorn briar]

[grizzled acorn]

Actually. I think the boat and the man have the same name

[thorn briar]

I'm trying to change the name but they are all taken

[grizzled acorn]

Yeah boat and man have the same name

New lore

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

[faint crag]

Waver for me
Waver+Iskandar was just the best part of fz in general

[slender skiff]

Absolutely

[faint crag]

Was excited when he got his own spinoff
only to not watch it

[slender skiff]

Who can blame waver for being somewhat obsessed with him

[thorn briar]

I dont like waver

[faint crag]

Refer to this^

[unkempt briar]

Waver is cool

Older Waver is daddy

[thorn briar]

Older waver looks good

Gilgamesh and rin are my faves

But i like some others as well

[unkempt briar]

Am I the only one who couldn’t really care less about Rin

[thorn briar]

[unkempt briar]

like she’s cute and all but that’s about it for me

[grizzled acorn]

young me thinking shes hot is why i got into fate

[unkempt briar]

saber is way more interesting character imo

[grizzled acorn]

sakura >

[slender skiff]

[grizzled acorn]

for me, at least

[thorn briar]

Saber was boring

[faint crag]

Depends what you expect of her

[thorn briar]

Saber alter is the best

[unkempt briar]

I haven’t watched the HF movies yet

[grizzled acorn]

i liked rin again after playing the vn, but just because she was a troll

[unkempt briar]

maybe soon

[slender skiff]

Rin has quite the personality yes

[grizzled acorn]

what if we watched them together 👉 👈

[slender skiff]

And well let's be real

[faint crag]

Any girls role is just to support whatever arc Shiro is going through
And Rin does that fine, considering that the arc is mostly about Archer

[slender skiff]

If they were all just normal people

Shirou would have gotten together with Rin probably

[unkempt briar]

I hate Shirou so there’s that

[thorn briar]

So rin wins

[slender skiff]

But nothing is canon

And everything is canon at the same time

[grizzled acorn]

i hated shirou at first but he grew on me cause of HF and later the kaleid movie

[slender skiff]

Which is why I reject fate stay night and just follow hollow ataraxia

[thorn briar]

Same

[slender skiff]

[faint crag]

They had pretty much no contact with each other prior to story events

[grizzled acorn]

if shirou had a brain he would go with sakura, in my humble opinion

[unkempt briar]

that’s a big if

anyways I doubt I’ll ever get into fate, just liking fate zero is enough for me

[slender skiff]

They were both mutually crushing on each other

[faint crag]

Shiro is a great character
People who dislike him just can't see past the basic "hurr durr blank mc hero of justice"

[slender skiff]

Which I always do find hilarious

[grizzled acorn]

thats exactly why i disliked him at first

[thorn briar]

I dropped fate zero twice

[slender skiff]

If you want shitty fate protag
It's apocrypha

[grizzled acorn]

that and he isnt my type of character, i do like him now though

[slender skiff]

[grizzled acorn]

kiritsugu was an infinitely more baller mc tho

[faint crag]

Until you realize that Shiro is a deconstruction of that type of char

[unkempt briar]

Well there’s a difference between unlikeable and bad

[grizzled acorn]

yeah i thought he was well written i just hated him

[unkempt briar]

I just don’t care enough about fate to analyze him further

[slender skiff]

People like their anti heroes more usually

[grizzled acorn]

he bored me a little. but then he balls out later and im like, ok shiro i feel you

[thorn briar]

I'm still salty over the fact that he won against karna

[slender skiff]

From a lore stand point it was relatively equal match honestly

[faint crag]

I like cardboard-kun but I'm not gonna pretend he's good

[slender skiff]

I blame astolfo more than anything

[grizzled acorn]

sieg isnt real

[faint crag]

[thorn briar]

Astolfo

[unkempt briar]

Like sure the whole ||shirou’s ideals being too naive and flawed so that his future Archer self came to kill him ordeal|| was quite interesting, too bad Archer is even more annoying

[grizzled acorn]

mordred and kairi were the real apocrypha mcs

[faint crag]

||The point is that they're both wrong and come out of the story even more wrong||

[slender skiff]

^

[grizzled acorn]

archer wasnt annoying

[slender skiff]

It's iskandar and waver all over

[grizzled acorn]

he's awesome

[unkempt briar]

People are wrong when they are wrong

[thorn briar]

[unkempt briar]

but just because you’re correct doesn’t mean you’re right

[faint crag]

They both fail despite Shiro technically "winning"

[grizzled acorn]

archer shows up -> destroys rins living room -> starts being an asshole

chad

[slender skiff]

It should be said

[faint crag]

Which is why I really need to finish HF the VN

[unkempt briar]

Cool idea aside, the presentation was dog poopoo imo so I couldn’t care less

[faint crag]

You're just a dumbo

Sorry

[unkempt briar]

No u

[grizzled acorn]

go watch heavens feel

[faint crag]

No

[slender skiff]

That it's mentioned in the VNs that Shirou in any of the FSN routes has little to no chance of ||becoming Archer||

[grizzled acorn]

i will not hear your opinions until then

[faint crag]

I'm not touching movies until I finished the vn

[grizzled acorn]

i meant yuni

[slender skiff]

Archer only comes about on an unspecified variation

[unkempt briar]

fate/cope hard

[faint crag]

Yuni is too dumb for it

[grizzled acorn]

youre on the vn hustle thats fine, as long as what you take away from it is that sakura is best girl

[faint crag]

[slender skiff]

I thought Kirei was best girl

[faint crag]

She probably is for Shiro

[unkempt briar]

I’m yoinking that

[grizzled acorn]

nah kirei is my husband

[slender skiff]

[thorn briar]

Yuni , actually fate HF is the best

[grizzled acorn]

changing kirei's gender denies that he can make a man gay

[unkempt briar]

surely it’s better than UBW at least

[grizzled acorn]

yeah

it is

[slender skiff]

You give UBW too hard a time tbh

[unkempt briar]

nah fuck UBW

[faint crag]

Yuni was just expecting ubw to be fz 2

[slender skiff]

^

Pretty much

[faint crag]

And instead it's just a separate work of fiction

[slender skiff]

This is the main reason why I don't recommend people to watch zero first

They simply come in with wrong expectations

[grizzled acorn]

in reality, gen urobuchi is a better writer than nasu

but

[slender skiff]

I mean was it ever a debate

[grizzled acorn]

both are good 👍

yes, ive heard the argument

[unkempt briar]

sorry for having expectations 😔

[slender skiff]

Nasu's style of writing at that time

Definitely wasn't as good

Now it's a different story

[grizzled acorn]

yuni your take becomes a lot less outrageous when i remember my unreasonable hatred for rezero

which isnt unreasonable at all because it sucks

[unkempt briar]

Also not being what I expected doesn’t mean it would make me dislike it, that’s dumb

it’s not what I expected but simply how good I expected it to be

and it’s just not good

[faint crag]

That's the reason you mention in your review

[slender skiff]

I mean you dislike Lycoreco

🏃‍♂️

[unkempt briar]

I don’t tho

[faint crag]

Lycoreco do be sucking tho

[slender skiff]

Res pls

[faint crag]

What?

[grizzled acorn]

ratio

[slender skiff]

I would have thought Lycoreco is something you would have liked res

[unkempt briar]

@grizzled acorn

[faint crag]

It's boring as fuck

[grizzled acorn]

i looked at the overall rating and saw a 4

[faint crag]

Reading is for nerds

Speaking of

[unkempt briar]

😔

[grizzled acorn]

i didnt even make it to the first couple of lines tbh, i see red, monkey brain goes

[slender skiff]

This pic always makes me laugh

Especially with the context

[unkempt briar]

Oh yeah bookworm, that’s something ender wants me to watch

one day ender one day

[slender skiff]

Myne is for once, not causing utter chaos here

[thorn briar]

I will watch it once I'm done with FMAB

[slender skiff]

(ok not for once)

[faint crag]

She kinda does, just not her fault

Well her food is causing it

[slender skiff]

Hold on I need that comic

[unkempt briar]

Bookworm and kanojo mo kanojo, ender’s homework for me

[grizzled acorn]

you couldnt possibly convince me watching that is better than reading it

i say without having watched it once

[unkempt briar]

Imagine reading

[slender skiff]

As someone who did watch and read it

I would say reading is better simply because the anime barely scratches the surface

[faint crag]

I might give anime a watch to check how much they ruined it

[slender skiff]

They didn't ruin it so much as it's not the meat of the story

[faint crag]

(Ruining = anything that isnt 1to1 how it is in books)

[slender skiff]

That said I don't remember specifically

[unkempt briar]

is it even possible to 1 to 1 a light novel adaptation

[faint crag]

Sure why not

[grizzled acorn]

idk i just hate children so id rather read their antics than listen to them, feel like itd be annoying

[unkempt briar]

well apparently Myne’s voice is a detractor indeed

[grizzled acorn]

that doesnt even remotely surprise me

[slender skiff]

It is index

Well ok, think of it as tsukihi instead

Maybe it's better

[slender skiff]

Challenging, but not impossible

I just can't think of any examples

[faint crag]

What's wrong with Tsukihi

[unkempt briar]

as long as it isn’t Asta in the first 20 episodes of black clover tier annoying I think I should be able to handle it

Tsukihi I don’t remember being annoying

Just index

[slender skiff]

Tsukihi has the same VA

[unkempt briar]

And index is kind of meant to be annoying

[grizzled acorn]

she was doing a different voice for tsukihi, id imagine

[slender skiff]

So it depends on who you're listening to

[grizzled acorn]

very different characters

[slender skiff]

Index is very exictable like myne tho, hence the comparison

Although

It should be said

At least it isn't about the stupidest things in the world

[unkempt briar]

it’s index’s whining that’s the bulk of her annoyingness

[slender skiff]

Myne does whine but she actually does shit

[grizzled acorn]

yall watch this show?

https://anilist.co/anime/118419/The-Day-I-Became-a-God/

[faint crag]

I don't remember being that annoyed by Index either, so I'll just consider I won't have any issues if I decide to watch it

[grizzled acorn]

the va for the little goblin made this show unwatchable for me

[unkempt briar]

I saw “god” in the title and thought of tower of god and got ptsd

[slender skiff]

Wasn't this the jun maeda work that got panned

[grizzled acorn]

yes

[slender skiff]

Out of curiosity have you watched "The World God Only Knows"

[unkempt briar]

Yes

It’s decent

[slender skiff]

Until you read the full manga

Then you'll be like
Wait what

Who recommended me to read it
Oh right it was Rei

[faint crag]

I'm glad the studio that made it closed cos they ruined both Kami Nomi and Hayate animes

[unkempt briar]

idk why but the manga I tend to read are those that are manga only (at the time of reading)

[faint crag]

It's petty but I'm petty

[slender skiff]

Wasn't it JC?
Or am I misremembering

[unkempt briar]

If there’s an anime I’d usually just watch that unless it’s trash

[faint crag]

No

[slender skiff]

AIC?

[faint crag]

Someone else who's closed now

[unkempt briar]

I’m pretty much only reading Apothecary Diaries nowadays

And there isn’t much of it 😔

[slender skiff]

Idk how it doesn't have an anime tbh

Given how insanely praised it is

[unkempt briar]

I’d love to see it animated

Maomao is giga chad

In every sense of the word

[slender skiff]

Maybe chad is the wrong word
But the idea is there yes

[thorn briar]

Is that a manga

[slender skiff]

Manga and LN

[unkempt briar]

nah chad is correct word

And she’s a GIGA one

[slender skiff]

Manga is arguably better than LN imo

[grizzled acorn]

oh is apothecary diaries good?

[slender skiff]

If you enjoyed hyouka

[grizzled acorn]

i saw it at b&n and almost got volume 1 of the manga but

ive not watched hyouka

[slender skiff]

I would give the manga a shot thenn

[faint crag]

What if I didnt?

[unkempt briar]

well the stakes aren’t hyouka tier

[grizzled acorn]

death

[faint crag]

[slender skiff]

Hyouka is significantly lower down the food chain in terms of stakes yes

What I meant was

The "formula" is similar to hyouka

[faint crag]

Hyouka had a formula?

[slender skiff]

At least the basic formula

[unkempt briar]

now that I think about it, Maomao do be like a fusion of chitanda and oreki lol

[slender skiff]

"Mystery of the arc"

It's the typical mystery formula

Except apothecary knows how to string seemingly unrelated mysteries together

[unkempt briar]

her overall personality is mellow and logical like oreki but she gets excited and nerds out over shit like chitanda

[slender skiff]

Did they isekai and have a kid or sth

[unkempt briar]

also she’s so deadpan about tragic things it’s so funny

[slender skiff]

Cordyceps

[unkempt briar]

“Dis shit poison lol”

[faint crag]

Actually I'm thinking about it now and I don't remember shit about Hyouka
In my head it's just a kinda boring slice of life that pretends to have mysteries but the twist always is that it's not

[slender skiff]

"And I'm drinking it like it's the most delicious thing in the world"

[faint crag]

Maybe I should rewatch it

[unkempt briar]

smh res not smort enough to understand hyouka 😔

[slender skiff]

Hyouka is an oddity amongst anime tbh

[faint crag]

I'm smart enough to understand that it sucks

[slender skiff]

It's not a LN, it's not a manga, it's not even an anime original

[unkempt briar]

hyouka is about finding meaning, intrigue and beauty in the mundane (common theme of kyoani stuff tbh)

[slender skiff]

I mean, that simply is the case for many mystery stories in general

[unkempt briar]

but leans more into it

[slender skiff]

Hyouka leans heavily into Occam's razor

[faint crag]

Ender, this is the 6th time you mention that "hyouka is a book actually" in class this week

[unkempt briar]

that’s why they over embellish animation for the simplest of things

[faint crag]

[slender skiff]

It may be the 6th time

[faint crag]

Yes, so is Euphonium
It's not as unusual

[slender skiff]

Certainly not this week tho

[grizzled acorn]

oh was it just an actual novel?

[slender skiff]

Yep

[faint crag]

Yea

[grizzled acorn]

learn somethin new every day

[unkempt briar]

well eupho is better

[slender skiff]

They adapted pretty much everything that was out at the time

[faint crag]

Eupho do be better

[slender skiff]

I think a 5th? Volume came out after the anime aired

Really can't remember

But I digress

[unkempt briar]

it helps that Eupho MC is kinda goated

[slender skiff]

I feel that apothecary is one of the things that would benefit more from a story stand point by having an anime adaptation

[faint crag]

[slender skiff]

Just like how the manga is (what I feel) personally better than the LN

Cos sometimes you just visualise things incorrectly

[unkempt briar]

I’m 100% down for an apothecary anime, but I also hope they don’t screw it up

I’m already sweating about the Frieren anime

[slender skiff]

It's literally set in ancient China, unless you're well versed in it you're probably not going to visualise it properly!

Given how beloved Frieren is, I can only hope they don't

[faint crag]

Nah, if you visualize it, then it's correct.
I'm still refuse to imagine Benno "correctly" cos that's not how I imagined him the first time

[unkempt briar]

if they screw up Frieren anime I will cronge hard

[slender skiff]

I mean res

Shall I ruin benno further for you?

He's voiced by Dio in the anime

[faint crag]

Chad

[grizzled acorn]

after this season, i do not believe in studios not fucking up adaptations

[thorn briar]

I only watched free with violet evergarden from kyoani

[slender skiff]

I went back to watch the anime after reading the LN

[faint crag]

Even less than what I imagine, but chad

[grizzled acorn]

benno is voiced by dio??? thats huge

[slender skiff]

I can safely say that it does not fit with my mental voice of benno

[unkempt briar]

I never watched free and prob never will 🙃

[grizzled acorn]

benno is the best character

[thorn briar]

[slender skiff]

Ferdinand fits koyasu's voice better than benno imo, but his current VA fits him just as well anyways

Ferdinand is pretty much the narrator of the series

[faint crag]

Same
I don't mind hot guys, but sports anime

[grizzled acorn]

idk the dio va is versatile. if hes doing a takasugi voice or zeke voice itd fit

[slender skiff]

I mean nights

[unkempt briar]

Yeah I’m not big on sports anime either

[slender skiff]

You can imagine how benno sounds like when he gets mad tho

[unkempt briar]

I still haven’t watched Haikyuu kek

[slender skiff]

Which is a regular occurrence

[grizzled acorn]

wryyyy

[faint crag]

The only sports anime I respect is Chihayafuru

[unkempt briar]

Based as fuck

[thorn briar]

Sports animes actually sucks except for 3

[slender skiff]

Keijo

No I haven't actually watched keijo

[grizzled acorn]

the best sports anime is ping pong the animation, go next

[faint crag]

I watched Keijo
It's literally just Jojo

[grizzled acorn]

i watched keijo with the boys. one sitting, 2 people that wanted to leave, and 2 more that didnt wanna turn it off

[slender skiff]

But with kei instead of papagane

[grizzled acorn]

it was great

[slender skiff]

I mean what

[unkempt briar]

I haven’t watched ping pong yet either despite being a yuasa fan lol

[grizzled acorn]

its so awesome

i may be a little biased, as a ping pong player

[thorn briar]

Free , slam dunk and kuroko no basket

[unkempt briar]

well I’m Chinese so I’m also a ping pong player

[slender skiff]

Wasn't yostar making a golf anime

[grizzled acorn]

🤝

youll love it

the best character in it is chinese

[slender skiff]

Actually Yuni

[unkempt briar]

[slender skiff]

As a Chinese
How much do you even understand about the context of apothecary anyways

Context isn't the right word
More of the environment

The setting

[unkempt briar]

a decent amount

[grizzled acorn]

yuni is the kingdom manga accurate?

i gotta know

[unkempt briar]

Dunno never read 🙃

[slender skiff]

But that said yuni

As much as I prefer the manga for apothecary

[grizzled acorn]

what about ya boy kongming? is that how zhuge liang would behave?

[slender skiff]

PFFFFFFT

[unkempt briar]

as a Chinese I found how they used Zhuge Liang’s stratagems in Paripi Koumei to be awesome

[grizzled acorn]

splendid

[unkempt briar]

the borrowing 100000 arrows part especially

[slender skiff]

The LN translators for apothecary are really chad themselves

[unkempt briar]

When that part happened I was like YOO ITS THAT THING

[slender skiff]

Like the amount of research they did

To localise it correctly

[grizzled acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ya-boy-kongming-gif-25406658

[slender skiff]

Is nothing short of insane

[unkempt briar]

I talk about stuff in apothecary diaries with my mom sometimes, she’s much more knowledgeable being a native and all

[faint crag]

Yea that's what good translators supposed to do
Which is rarely what's actually done 🙃

[unkempt briar]

Her main gripe is that she doesn’t know which emperor exactly this takes place under LOL

[slender skiff]

The translator went on a 3 page essay explaining why they decided to localise like 3 words the way they did

[faint crag]

(Still remember trying to look up some museum in japan for translation that I did just to translate its name correctly)

[unkempt briar]

mama Yuni loves Maomao btw so she’s a certified giga chad

[grizzled acorn]

what are your moms thoughts on ubw?

[slender skiff]

This one line

[unkempt briar]

[slender skiff]

Like the TLer

Went on for 3 pages

[unkempt briar]

Respects to the TLer

[faint crag]

Based

[unkempt briar]

I love it when they put that type of effort in

[slender skiff]

I would send the whole thing here

But boi it's a fuck ton

Btw this is referring to Lakan

[unkempt briar]

oh yeah my mom took one look at Jinshi and immediately knew “he’s someone the emperor cut the dick off”

[thorn briar]

[unkempt briar]

we used to watch a lot of historical fiction movies whenever we stayed in China so, the setting to apothecary diaries was pretty familiar to me

[slender skiff]

Continuation of this

[unkempt briar]

[slender skiff]

Just for that one explanation

[unkempt briar]

based af TLers

meanwhile ALEN TLers:

[slender skiff]

There's also a not as lengthy note for why the term rear palace was used

[faint crag]

Ok so it's less them giving context and more literally just flexing "look at the cool thing we did" which is honestly even more cool

[slender skiff]

The fact that he typed it out is

Nothing short of amazing

[faint crag]

Since it means they're actually passionate and proud about their work

[unkempt briar]

damnit now I REALLY want an anime adaptation

[faint crag]

I respect that even more

[slender skiff]

Translated by Kevin Steinbach
Edited by Sasha McGlynn

Legends

[slender skiff]

They'll never sub it properly

[unkempt briar]

😔

they should just fill the screen with TL notes

[slender skiff]

It's like expecting people to accurately sub Shirogane's rap in kaguya

[slender skiff]

Wow

That's a lot of isekai

GS aside of course

Speaking of GS

They announced S2 forever ago

And we still haven't gotten any updates since

Then again I guess the same happened for shield hero, and look where that ended up

[grizzled acorn]

uh oh

a 1/10 anime

[thorn briar]

I never watched goblin slayer

[grizzled acorn]

I dropped it like 3-4 episodes in, i thought it sucked

[slender skiff]

GS is more of

"Can you get past the first ep"

[grizzled acorn]

this was a middle school me opinion though. i mighta been wrong

[slender skiff]

It's the Mushoku of 2017

I guess

That's the best way to think about it

[grizzled acorn]

nvm tf, that was a highschool me opinion

[slender skiff]

The start of the anime can be a massive turn off

Much like ascendance, it's one of those series I never expected to like but did

[grizzled acorn]

i thought it aired 2018?

[slender skiff]

I actually can't remember when it aired

So it's probably 2018 yes

[thorn briar]

It aired in 2018

[grizzled acorn]

thats not long enough ago for me to deny my opinion. guess it sucked

[slender skiff]

Glorious shitty memory bi have

Given you enjoy Mushoku

I'd give it another chance

[grizzled acorn]

ehhh

is the LN better?

[unkempt briar]

Oh yeah mushoku, that’s another one of ender’s homework I need to watch

[slender skiff]

Imo

The LN is

Confusing

It's not bad

It's just confusing

BECAUSE NO ONE HAS NAMES

AAAAAAAA

[grizzled acorn]

im planning on reading re zero ln too, i hate it, but i can do a reexperiencing terrible shows in book format marathon

[unkempt briar]

all I know about the anime besides the MC being controversial is that they put a lot of effort into the setting

[slender skiff]

I don't expect you to like rezero frankly
Because it really depends on how you perceive the MC and his bullshit

[grizzled acorn]

worst character ive ever seen

is my current opinion

[slender skiff]

Especially during the first 2-3 arcs

Which is why I'm surprised you didn't like gs

The MC is more a chad than anything

[grizzled acorn]

i dont remember why i disliked gs, i just remember not liking it

[unkempt briar]

re zero is fine but the sanctuary arc took way too fucking long imo

[thorn briar]

I liked rezero more in the whale arc

[grizzled acorn]

I dropped it like episode 21 of season 1

[slender skiff]

Sanctuary arc is like the longest in the LN

Iirc

[grizzled acorn]

i heard s2 was much better, but i didnt get there

[unkempt briar]

And the lore in re zero is boring, I’d rather they focus on the psychological introspection

[slender skiff]

For that, go watch erased

[thorn briar]

But the 2nd season was way better since echidna is there

[grizzled acorn]

nah bro. give me more lore

[unkempt briar]

erased is bad

[slender skiff]

(ok not entirely serious)

[grizzled acorn]

i want more lore and world building !!!! I LOVE FICTIONAL HISTORY!!!

[slender skiff]

Like my one quibble with GS

Is that no one has names

They're just called "Goblin Slayer" or "Priestess" or "High Elf Archer"

[unkempt briar]

If you care about lore then yes Re zero gets better in s2 cause it explores the lore and other witches much more

[grizzled acorn]

chad author too lazy to name shit

[slender skiff]

Or how the MC's cousin is literally called "Cow Girl"

[thorn briar]

[grizzled acorn]

it still hinges on me not finding subaru to be a little bitch

[unkempt briar]

well he becomes less of a bitch too so there’s that

[grizzled acorn]

if i hate the lens that im exploring the world through, the worlds not gonna be good either

[slender skiff]

It can actually get really confusing because for example there's "priestess" and "apprentice priestess"

And those are completely different characters

[slender skiff]

1. Cos she lives on a farm and milks cows
   2. Cos... She has cow tits

From lurking in this channel for like the past few years

All I can say is

[unkempt briar]

re zero s2 has a moment where Subaru kind of has a break through eureka moment and his bitchiness is kept to a minimum for the rest of the show

[slender skiff]

A lot of rezero hinges on

Whether you can stand Subaru long enough

For him to actually stop whining

Or

To accept that, that's just who he is

[faint crag]

I still didn't gather enough courage to go back to teaparty arc

[grizzled acorn]

itll be a hurdle. because id go back into it with the preconception that he is the worst character ever written and the least likable protagonist to grace the medium

which is true.

[unkempt briar]

well I don’t like Subaru but I try to separate unlikeable from badly written, his introspection is pretty interesting and him being hateable I felt like was purposeful

[faint crag]

It is

[grizzled acorn]

yeah the author intended for him dying to be funny, or something

[slender skiff]

He's not meant to be likeable

[faint crag]

It's very clear in the books

[unkempt briar]

and I cared enough about seeing where his character goes to continue

[faint crag]

But he's pretty much just an incel

[slender skiff]

But I wouldn't say badly written is the right word either

[grizzled acorn]

that just sounds like Canute development

[slender skiff]

If you want worst MC ever written, you have rental girlfriend

[unkempt briar]

He’s not badly written is the point, I just don’t like him

[slender skiff]

Unfortunately not quite the same genre

Tbh, if rezero makes you dislike Subaru, I think that's a win on the author's part

[unkempt briar]

if anything not liking him is a testament to the success of his writing so it should be a positive LMAO

[slender skiff]

It's not like again, rental

[unkempt briar]

me and ender brain sync’d for a second there

[grizzled acorn]

yeah ig. its like ToG author making me hate rachel. if i hate the character it means im invested. standard author W

[slender skiff]

Rental is basically what if Subaru actually had a tiny bit of development after 100 fucking chapters, and then BACK TRACKED on that little development after the arc ended

What do you mean this shit is almost as long as kaguya

[grizzled acorn]

all i know is that the author made the mc dream that he was getting cucked, and then the funny pool panel

[slender skiff]

[faint crag]

There's a point in the books where it goes out of its way to point out how he didn't care that another character was in danger lol

[grizzled acorn]

and that chizuru is literally the authors girlfriend. i cant forget that

[slender skiff]

He's married

Which makes me concerned

[grizzled acorn]

its so funny

i love those posts

[slender skiff]

Like it's a dumpster fire on par with domestic

Somehow

The saddest part is like

The actual best characters of the series

[grizzled acorn]

Imagine the author did all of that intentionally and he was trolling his incel audience

[slender skiff]

Barely appear in it at all

Sumi my beloved

Supposed to be the "4th" girl

And somehow has not appeared in the manga for almost 2 years now

[grizzled acorn]

Another scheme from the brilliant author

Hes actually trolling you

[slender skiff]

I don't even know why I'm still reading it

I dropped Komi before this somehow

Well Komi kinda died after the confession

[unkempt briar]

Komi-San is just bad bocchi the rock ||I never watched Komi San this is a joke||

[slender skiff]

That said, credit given where credit is due
Komi received a good anime adaptation

[grizzled acorn]

komi manga is mid and boring

[slender skiff]

The animation is top notch

Like

[unkempt briar]

Am I really bouta get nitro just for my bocchi emotes 😔

[ivory mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/sao-llenn-evade-ggo-sword-art-online-gif-17405990

[slender skiff]

And I thought Kirito was skilled

[grizzled acorn]

bleach please stop this looks terrible. im begging

[unkempt briar]

Lol wtf am I looking at

[slender skiff]

I mean, how else did you expect Skeletons to look like

Meaty?

[unkempt briar]

looks like the bleach fandom GOTTEM

[ivory mauve]

LLENN has bullet time

[grizzled acorn]

its harder to tell with a still, but them moving looks absolutely horrendous

[slender skiff]

I mean

[grizzled acorn]

the animation i mean, not skeletons moving

[slender skiff]

Just to digress

[faint crag]

"Koni san is just bad"
Fixed it

[slender skiff]

Why are people so scared of skeletons even

[grizzled acorn]

because theyre bitches

[slender skiff]

I would be more scared if the fucking muscular system went after me

[unkempt briar]

Because ded people scary 😔

[grizzled acorn]

i could take at least 2000 skeletons in a fight

unarmed

give me a nintendo switch pro controller, i could double that easily

[slender skiff]

Skeletons can't move without muscles or magic

Muscles can

[faint crag]

Because skeletons not supposed to be moving silly

[grizzled acorn]

yeah its always magic

[slender skiff]

If they can't move they can't hurt you

Muscles tho

They'll just run up to you and slap you

[faint crag]

Well they clearly can, that's the issue

[thorn briar]

Skeletons aren't scary but the ones in overlord are something else

[slender skiff]

Ainz sama

[thorn briar]

[grizzled acorn]

ainz is kinda hot

[slender skiff]

A skeleton amongst skeletons

And there's so many inappropriate jokes that just ran through my mind

[thorn briar]

He's the best isekai mc

[faint crag]

The serious answer is that skeletons represent dead people and the fear of dead coming back to life
Your muscles and shit will decompose but the skeleton will remain

[slender skiff]

So if the muscles didn't decompose

We should just shit our pants

[thorn briar]

[faint crag]

You'll do it when you die yourself, don't bother

[slender skiff]

Fair point

That can actually happen

On a side note

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618311362988474377/1041802108313272421/unknown.png

I still can't believe she's like 21?

[grizzled acorn]

i was gonna say i hate every character i know there but, then i saw gabriel

[faint crag]

I only know gab here

[slender skiff]

Ok no 23

[thorn briar]

I only know gab and miko

[faint crag]

Oh and Miko

[slender skiff]

Wait did you not watch combatants?

I thought you did Res?

[faint crag]

?

Oh I didn't see Alice

[grizzled acorn]

i didnt either

whoops

[faint crag]

Yea her as well

[slender skiff]

I should really get to watching Made in Abyss

[grizzled acorn]

but she voiced chutury so im not wishing her happy birthday

made in abyss is good, but theres a lot of aspects youre gonna have to overlook, imo

[slender skiff]

Such as

[thorn briar]

One of my friends recommended made in abyss to me but i didn't watch it

[grizzled acorn]

very lewd and disgusting circumstances surrounding children, repetitive unfunny dirty jokes made by and directed towards more children

Riko annoys me a little, but the rest of the main cast is fine

other than that, good psychological horror, good worldbuilding

the movie is actually amazing, and the recent season 2 was good af too

[faint crag]

Yea it's
really weird about it

And for absolutely no reason

[grizzled acorn]

that was the main turnoff for me. but it does a lot of other things right so i cant dismiss the rest of it

youll just have to get used to and ignore that bit, really

[slender skiff]

So it's the SAO ecchi syndrome

[faint crag]

It's a bit more than that

[grizzled acorn]

youll have to see for yourself. youve been warned tho

[slender skiff]

I do appreciate the warning

[faint crag]

Sao is just fanservice
Kinda but understandable

[thorn briar]

I won't watch it

[slender skiff]

I mean SAO has like... 4 attempted rape scenes at this point

All of which were greatly exaggerated in the anime

[grizzled acorn]

those rape scenes are more acceptable to me than some of the stuff in made in abyss

[slender skiff]

For some ungodly reason

[faint crag]

We dont talk about alfheim

[slender skiff]

Seriously? That bad huh

If alfheim was the only one that would be fine

[grizzled acorn]

well its just because its very young children

[slender skiff]

It is sorta fantasy right

[grizzled acorn]

yeah, dark fantasy

[slender skiff]

Yabe

Well let's just put it down

And expect myself to never watch it

[grizzled acorn]

i gave that warning but i still think its worth a watch, its one of the few pieces of media to actually disturb me with pure horror elements. excluding the whole children bit

[faint crag]

It's still a good story with some great lore
But yea I'm not surprised people will stay away from it

[slender skiff]

As long as it's not another "another"

With cheap final destination jumpscares

[grizzled acorn]

another is stupid and is more of a comedy than a horror

[thorn briar]

Is promised neverland good or is it just not good

[grizzled acorn]

i laughed at the umbrella scene, ill admit it

im proud

[grizzled acorn]

season 1 is good but there is no season 2. still waiting for it

[faint crag]

Another is absolutely godawful

[slender skiff]

For tpn it's
Watch s1 and then just read the manga

For as good as Japan is with horror movies
It's always struck me as strange there aren't many good (actual) horror anime

[grizzled acorn]

horror is really hard to do

[thorn briar]

I gave it a new name

[slender skiff]

I'm not counting ghoul as horror

[faint crag]

I watched Another really long ago so I read the book when I knew more about stories and could analyse it properly not that long ago

[grizzled acorn]

most horror in any medium that ive seen doesnt actually work very well

[slender skiff]

You read the book for it? Huh

[faint crag]

And it's actually even worse lmao

[slender skiff]

BRUH

[grizzled acorn]

lmfao

as expected

[thorn briar]

Another wasn't that scary

[grizzled acorn]

yeah because horror is hard

[slender skiff]

Like the only other good horror-esque anime of recent time would be well, Mieruko

[grizzled acorn]

thats why ill give made in abyss credit where credit is due, its fucked up and fucked me up. good psychological horror, done well done right

[thorn briar]

The only thing that scares me is the umbrella scene

[grizzled acorn]

that scene was funny bro

[slender skiff]

Unless you count ghoul which is older still

Or Claymore

[grizzled acorn]

tokyo ghoul and claymore are "horror" but they arent scary

[slender skiff]

...I forgot about corpse party too

[grizzled acorn]

theyre good but that shit aint horror bro

[thorn briar]

Tokyo ghoul 1st episode was scary for me

[slender skiff]

But I know absolutely nothing about corpse party

[grizzled acorn]

tokyo ghoul did have some decent psychological elements, but its mostly just a gritty manga. the show was just edgy and isnt real

[slender skiff]

All I know is that my at the time crush told me to watch it long ago

And I never watched any of the horror anime she recommended

Nor did I watch haikyuu, which she also recommended

[grizzled acorn]

i dont think thats a horror anime bro

[slender skiff]

(I know)

[grizzled acorn]

haikyuu is actually quite good tho. i like it a lot

[slender skiff]

The only horror scene regarding a volleyball I can think of

[thorn briar]

I dropped haikyuu

[slender skiff]

Is lancer getting his skull smashed by a volleyball in carnival phantasm

"horror" at it's finest

Final Dead Lancer is the best horror anime

[thorn briar]

Did that happen

[slender skiff]

[slender skiff]

It is a comedy spin off

Anything can happen

[thorn briar]

I watched it but i dont remember this

[slender skiff]

He spends the prior 10 episodes being killed in the most ridiculous ways

And then in that episode he tries his absolute best not to die

And then in the end, when he thinks he's safe, he dies to a volleyball to the face

[grizzled acorn]

shit on mal needs to stop being slapped with the horror tag when it aint scary

[faint crag]

I kinda was into Haikyuu since volleyball was the only sport i actually enjoyed playing during pe classes
But then i realised I'm really not into sports anime

[slender skiff]

I have PTSD regarding volleyball

Almost managed to refracture my wrist

Like an absolute genius

[faint crag]

Oof

[grizzled acorn]

bro whys jojos part 1 got the horror tag

[slender skiff]

[faint crag]

Vampires

[grizzled acorn]

i swear, they see a vampire and say "AHHH SCARY!!!"

stupid af

[faint crag]

Boo

[slender skiff]

I mean I'm just bad at vb

I probably just received it very badly

[thorn briar]

Vampires are the best thing in some animes

[faint crag]

That's why i like anilist
Tags actually have a percentage

[grizzled acorn]

yeah if you watched haikyuu, you woulda been fine

get real. the only horrifying thing about this manga is how bad it is

[slender skiff]

I used to like inazuma eleven I mean footbal, and then after I fractured my leg I couldn't kick properly anymore

I mean

[grizzled acorn]

god just didnt want you playing sports, huh?

[slender skiff]

That plot sounds like horror to me

[grizzled acorn]

its a romcom with a zombie

[slender skiff]

I pretty much will only play basketball now

[grizzled acorn]

with a terribly written ending

[slender skiff]

Nights, out of curiosity

How about parasyte

[thorn briar]

I used to like inazuma eleven

[grizzled acorn]

parasyte is, yeah

[slender skiff]

Or better still, "Is This a Zombie?"

[faint crag]

Best horror anime

[grizzled acorn]

most of the horror is psychological. theres a lot of gore too. i wouldnt call parasyte scary though

its hard for something to be scary or disturbing without being overly edgy. idk i rarely see it done right

[slender skiff]

No no no wait
The best one

Is Zombieland Saga a horror anime

[grizzled acorn]

inoue takehiko wants to know your location

[slender skiff]

[grizzled acorn]

idk let me ask my roommate

ender, hear me out

truck-kun is really scary....

[slender skiff]

Ok fair

[slender skiff]

That said this one has legit horror moments tho

Or at least

Gory ones

[grizzled acorn]

ive never even seen it

so

no comment

[slender skiff]

Well

Comedic gore

[grizzled acorn]

gore =/= horror

[slender skiff]

Does comedic gore count as horror?

[grizzled acorn]

youre just talking about 'another' again

[slender skiff]

I mean idk how I feel about a monster bear spewing blood everywhere after being chainsawed to the face

[grizzled acorn]

i feel like i could beat it in a fight

[slender skiff]

It is worth a watch tho yes

It's "Madoka Magica if the MC was a guy and a zombie, and the depresso became wtfo moments"

[ivory mauve]

https://youtu.be/MV1MqNzpbh0

Let's gooooo

[faint crag]

Zombie at the very least takes credit for being the only "magical girl"-boy show I know of

[slender skiff]

Yeah

[grizzled acorn]

thats a lot of changes to madoka youre making

[slender skiff]

Mahou Shounen

Is this a zombie is of the Mahou Shounen genre

[grizzled acorn]

madoka actually did horror pretty well now that you bring it up

[faint crag]

Yea it's literally nothing like Madoka

[grizzled acorn]

thats one of the better ones

[slender skiff]

Wait

Does that mean Fate Zero is a horror now

[grizzled acorn]

yes 🗿

[slender skiff]

Urobutcher did his work there too

After all

[grizzled acorn]

gilles de rais is very scary

and not at all charismatic

[slender skiff]

I still find it kinda amazing

[grizzled acorn]

||im lying, i love gilles||

[slender skiff]

The same guy who does such a horror inducing performance as gilles

Also performs a magnificent, heroic send off as Arash

STELLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[grizzled acorn]

was it gen urobuchi or junji ito that did the cute little cat ear thing

[slender skiff]

[thorn briar]

Gilles in fate Apocrypha is way better but he appeared like only 1 episode

[slender skiff]

Yeah Arash has the same VA as gilles

[grizzled acorn]

after 2 seconds of google, it was junji ito

[slender skiff]

Guy is quite talented

Stella in the Camelot movie was nothing short of magnificent

[grizzled acorn]

idk that was like the 2000th ive seen it

[slender skiff]

There's no big boom

Unlike the game

Or what you probably visualised in the Camelot story

[grizzled acorn]

yeah, really underwhelming, i didnt get to see the damage numbers

[slender skiff]

You just see a lone arrow

Whisking through the night quietly

And slowly and silently obliterate the approaching rhongomyniad

I always visualised it as yes, a big boom

But there's something even more breath taking about it

Probably the best moment in the Camelot movie?

[grizzled acorn]

yeah

thats underselling it though, because those movies werent good

[slender skiff]

https://youtu.be/PnHoeCARamg

Ok I lied there was a boom, just not the kinda boom I expected

[solid nebula]

Oh yeah, Alnus Hill base go brrrr

[slender skiff]

all I pray for is an Avalon le Fae anime

[grizzled acorn]

thats not out yet on NA

and the jp account my friend gave me finished the story so i havent read it yet

[slender skiff]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLax9JmtqMNMKq3n8SvVE0qWBKDFf2hh7L

Have fun

[grizzled acorn]

wait this has all of it

omg

big

[slender skiff]

Not all

Actually

I think about 2/3?

[grizzled acorn]

i gotta go back and reread like the first 4 singularities i skipped them

[slender skiff]

It is fully translated, just not all of them have been made to video

Just like how Babylonia and Camelot and their animes were written by Nasu

So was Avalon

[grizzled acorn]

ender why is it than when i open your anilist, caren's foot is in my face

please elaborate

[slender skiff]

I actually put my gallery through an rng for a pic

That was the first one that came out that was landscape

Also it's caren

Surely that's in her personality

[grizzled acorn]

it definitely is

[slender skiff]

Except that one is more kaleid caren

[grizzled acorn]

i didnt know who caren was when i watched kalleid and im like "shes better than saber wheres her route'

unbeknownst to me, there was one

[slender skiff]

Sort of

I wouldn't call it a route exactly

HA is just

Fucking weird to say the least

[grizzled acorn]

yeah. still havent really played it because idk how

but

||she's kirei's daughter so shes probably best girl||

[slender skiff]

I do think she's best girl

Not for that reason tho

[grizzled acorn]

for that reason

[slender skiff]

Le VA

[grizzled acorn]

you love kotomine kirei

this is my evil brainwashing scheme

[slender skiff]

Koshimizu Ami

[grizzled acorn]

thats kallen's va right?

[slender skiff]

Aye

[grizzled acorn]

💪

still got it

[slender skiff]

Kawasaki (oregairu) and ryuuko (kill la kill) too

Oh and of course holo

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i was thinking ryuuko too

from the little of kill la kill ive watched

i havent watched spice and wolf yet, but thats a good sign i think

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I dropped it at the time

I might enjoy it now?

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ive got the first volume in my room

will i read it? maybe?

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For me

Spice and Wolf stops and ends at the OP

The OP is magnificent

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thats umm

hold on ive got this

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I think it was OP

Or was it ED

Fuck

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the song by Akino Arai right?

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It was OP

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what was its name

umm

Mitsu no something

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Tabi no Tochuu

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??

fuck am i thinking about

mal save me

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https://youtu.be/W6q1AWnjNiU

This is the OP

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i was thinking about op for season 2...

bro

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idk how that happened

dont ask me

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One of the rare duets in anisongs

Those have more or less died to be honest

The only other notable ones off the top of my head would be Koimonogatari's OP

Sung by Gahara and Kaiki

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wait thats awesome

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Turns out Tamamo and Regend make an amazing combination

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why the hell do senjougahara and kaiki get a duet thats so genius

i like that

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https://youtu.be/LLlytsgLcr4

Don't ask me why they did

I have no idea why either

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im not gonna watch that, because i havent read koimonogatari yet

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Ok let me find audio only

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im just about done reading otorimonogatari so im almost there

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https://youtu.be/FhTXpx_fOHM

Audio only, full version too

The OP animation is well

Very unique

It fits the song amazingly well

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i liked the spice and wolf op

is this what kaiki's voice sounds like??/

odd

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It's Regend

Yes, I do mean Kojiro

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pokemon kojiro?

james?

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Both of them actually