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takaoyaki

lets go
I have the biggest
Greatest
Story plot ever
What if it's isekai
No wait nvm
This is a sfw discord

No wait I think it should be fine
Isekai but we throw all the r18-tags in it while the mc rejects it with all his might and tried to make the world normal
No r-18 stuff
if the mc is male, its a horrible idea
because no teenage male would say no to hot women
The mc prefers a comfy long-lasting relationship where the boy and girl fell in love after being together for a long while.
yeah so in that world he gets cucked daily
listen, any girl he goes after would be doing the r-18 stuff like the rest of them
All of em
ohhhh
so the world isnt like that
and i will be alone forever
the goddess is forcing it
so zilf
Birb, how's this
you have made highschool of the dead, highschool dxd, etc etc etc, and then made it isekai
you have ruined anime forever
So like the girls will lust him but he's like ew, no.
And each arc will be a specific genre
Heh
no wait
What are you, yuuki rito?
is there an anime about a guy getting hit on but just flat out doesnt understand whats happening
i think that'd be funny
zilf its better if its the opposite
So like during a cuck arc he punched the scum woman back to her husband
Wow
if he says yes to the situations and then gets cock-blocked by the universe
Assert kazuma on woman?
Or if it's a scat arc he will try to bring the person to the nearest toilest
Wha-
Keep jumping left and right
If he gained hypnosis power he would used it on himself as a buff and never use it on others
@light flint you like NTR huh

someone should make a game where it’s like
POV you are an isekai protag and your trying to avoid truck kun so you don’t get isekai-ed
Hm today i will watch anime for the first time
no i dont zilf
its time to watch uziel chan wants to fuck around
i was saying have him just about to get the good and then the universe is like "nope"
Zilf's nickname became questionable
Basically the whole plot is trying to make the story remain sfw
@light flint that's not amazing nowadays, it's a bit boring
like he opens the door to his room and one of the girls is clad in lingerie on his bed, but then one of the demon lord's generals starts attacking at that exact moment
ew bad character design
those contents
imagine being not morally right
"oh man theres this pretty girl that i really like, and she likes me, we both like each other, and fate has made it so we have to bang for plot reasons but im going to resist just like literally no other male my age would in this exact same situation"
this is every vn ever
in that situation he will kidnap the girl and put a chainsaw against her neck while feigning that he is a bad guy. Hitting her sometimes.
thats why the nsfw vns have 4 hours of reading until you get one lewd image
Well, that went ryona real quick
Haha jokes on you

I skip the story
Just light threatening
you're literally skipping the "game"
zilf if you want to go crazy
make the world like shimoneta
when the fuck someone gonna make a vn with a gunfight scene or two
bag, vns are made to literally just take money
Dies irae
Shimometa's whole plot iss about trying to being back loods
If I spell it right
yes zilf
This is the opposite
bring the lewds back into a world where no one knows about sex
fuck.
bag, a good vn isnt a vn, thats just called a game
or bag
just make a game
Seriously
hmn
Itnexists
zilf
It's boring man
a vn is a good story with pretty pictures
Make a vn that choices actually change most of the story
but if we look at alot of rpg games, its a good story with pretty animations
Some vn literally gave us meaningless choices
vns are always trash because the good ideas are made into games
Like, why even bother giving a choice
I prefer to call it illusion of choice
It didn't even lead to game over
illusion of choice is great, if you let them choose whatever they want
That's even worse
Deltarune's purpose for giving you choices is to show you that your choices doesn't matter
And it runs on that
if u made a vn into a comic u could probably milk more money from it
bag
At the last part of the day, you could move your soul around a cage
Start from 3
ever wonder why light novels get made into manga first?
its like you said
Because manga is less strict on lewds?
Despite not having much pictures
you make the light novel, make a manga from it to get alot of money, and then they milk it even more by making it lewd with a vn
a chapter book
if not an anime/etc
the good ones become animes
I just don't like it man, I know people are supposed to self insert as the isekai character but the world building are so shit in these plots
you ever wonder why they didnt make medal of honor european assault into an anime
for a certain sense of "good" (SAO... yeah right)
then zilf
that theme is 💸
dont insert
In.the end isekai is what I would call a sfw hentai
currently the kings of anime are ones where you cant insert
It's not really deep
@light flint you do realize what is popular for modern generation right?
The most
Back when ppl make r18 content on vn to attracter players/readers
It's SAO
It's the sad truth
Like Fate
What.
is it possible to make a funny story but still have emotional moments and a sad ending
not strictly, but it is a power fantasy as Kirito's an ace that gets girls.
remember that he was already a god at the game from the start
without seeming cliche
Fire I am not sure if you are shitting me right now
kirito was the top tier player at the start
he wasnt some average joe
he was a beta tester
He was an average joe
People don't want to read about someone JUST LIKE THEM usually.
NO ZIFL
Given some cheats
YOU DIDNT PAY ATTENTION

he got cheats at the END
He's like
look at the other average joes there
He have the personality of a grass
70+ lvl from the beginning?
they did literal SHIT
kirito knew everything about the first level boss from day one
because he already beat it and went beyond before
its not an insert because you say "man i could be kirito" its an insert because you say "i wish i was kirito"
because you are already an average joe
you want to get better
what if ur a below average joe
Isekai sao? Overlord, cautious hero, konosuba
Dear ofh dear fire
The game type isekai
thats why heroaca did so well

Easily the precursor to the modern popular formula (different setting, OP powers, girls nigh-dropping panties for ya)
How could you hold such high hopes of sao
"oh hes a normal person like me who gets powers. i wish i had powers"
When the writer clearly wrote hentai of it.
zilf SAO was great until the 2nd half of season 1
and then after that it was kindof ok
zilf
you gotta look at it from an objective stnadpoint
analyze the story
there is a reason that SAO is the king of isekai
And fans
It got a good story? 

Oh
Hi Aria
I also drew this from my phone :

go tell me why all these other "better than SAO" isekai dont have more seasons than SAO
Meowofficer chasing Manjuu
Lowest common demonator
Same reason why certain AL characters get way more art than others.
i liked battlefield bc2
also aria we are talking about story ideas with zilf, so this is related to ontopic
Next you'll say Twlight was great because it outsold other better stories.
never read twilight
nono fish, SAO is still getting new seasons
romance books are stupid
Wwhats romance
imagine reading about sex and not just going out and trying to get sex
Yes but that doesn't void it from being bad
Not true considering hte masses tend to have shit taste
It sells because it's babies first anime
but fish
fire
look what you just said
I think is
you say if its bad it doesnt sell
have you ever seen fuckin essential oils and any frozen pizza thats not digiornos
Itnhave something to do with writing
it all ass
Since they start good, attracted views and fans
So some stayed for diff reasons
But well
I'll stop now

with SAO it's more the current generation haven't seen better and it hit the right notes. There's some things I'd watch as guilty pleasure, but I can admit that "yeah it's shit" at the same time.
also the have you tried the quiznos lobster sandwich
its ass
but yet they bring it back every year
But let's get back to writing
anyway zilf, the point is, having an average joe insert invokes conflict with the reader if that character does anything the reader wouldnt do
@untold crypt how does this hand looks for you
but having an insert that is above the reader means that they will care less about stupid mistakes
i feel like th ehand should be a little bigger

Hey Aria
Slightly only
I'll adjust it
What do you think of my art? @lunar swift
post
Purin
well
I drew it from my phone
like zilf, having an insert thats generic enough that most people will relate means that their common sense should be the same
and when inevitably it is not, the character is proclaimed trash
USS Texas (Arknights) :
its why kazuma is an idiot for not jumping on the opportunity to marry darkness, and why kirito is unfortunate for not warning the noobs about the mimics
I'm pretty sure trash story are due to trash story and not trash self insert
Games design specialize in self insert stories.
Kinda
And hoo boy self inserts have absolutely no personality
yes but no one wants to insert into themselves
its a self insert but you want to be the person
its not you in the story
you want to be the person in the story
Not.you want to be the person
Depends on the game, as with say Final Fantasy it's not so much a power fantasy, but seeing their struggle while with Persona there's more of an element of "self insert fantasy"
but itd be awesome to be like kazuma or something
Do you know why twilight is popular? Basically people want to impose their personality into the main character.
imposing personality is a horrible idea
How bout now?
Only female

But some women have wanted to be Bella on some level, and that's who Twilight is aimed at, contrasting say SAO (which is aimed at guys)
Oooh
every girl wants ripped men to constantly give them attention
Burn
Fire, no, Don't assume
because bella fits the narrative
the reader almost certainly doesnt
She really doesn't fit at all
zilf you understand what i mean
You know what I mean too
imagine you as the mc of an isekai
not as the person
its just you placed in an isekai
you would die
end of story
Not really, I usually want to replace the MC of isekai since they can't really do the things I believe they should do.
thats the thing zilf
you can change actions
but you want the skills and knowledge of the MC
Eh not really
Kinda I guess?
no extra knowledge
But most of them is kinda dumb
you jsut want to be in another world
jsut poof
zilf kazuma is currently living as a millionaire from his sheer knowledge alone
But there's no computer
and?
he make those blanket table things with the heaters
and then sold them for fortunes
And you can't really sell video games in that world
and?
Without everyone having computers
Fire I have no idea why you dream to be a sel insert protagonist when you should just replace em tbh
They are meant for you to impose your personality
Or to be precise
The author is imposing their personalities into em
yeah and then they make good ideas that i wouldnt make
Since it's a game, you can just leave it for players to decide whether it's good or bad
like with the kazuma example, selling basic items

becoming a millionaire
I don't think you know how self insert works much tbh
zilf i dont think you do
Oh no, I will never make a self insert story that would be boring

I think rather it's more you're seeing it in is/is not as opposed to varying levels of how much inserting is involved.
you already have zilf
Kazuma is a less inserting example compred to say Kirito or that Jesus MC with the Thirsty siter.
We both have a different degree on how much self insert should be involved
And fire is being salty, bet 
Don't be salty
/slap @light flint
Fishman is right
I was saying that to you as you seem to refuse any gradiants of self-insertness, Zilf.
well im coming from the perspective that i know who i am
and a story where i am the MC is gonna be pretty boring
If I'm the MC it's not gonna be pleasent either
but a story where i get to become a superhero? or have an adventure in a fantasy land? those are great
I agree on that
but the point is that its no longer me
im being something that i am not
The point is it's you but special
yeah but if i had powers, i wouldnt want to be a superhero
so the entire premise of the plot is on making a choice that i would not make
What, so you would read a superhero story with a self insert main character and not want to be a superhero?
its self insert but it isnt you
nono zilf
i read that and want to be a superhero
but if i was given powers, i would choose to not be
But you said you wouldn't want to be a superhero
Ah I understand that
Ahh
so its no longer you
Would they be self righteous or
Random bkusa appeared
thats why im saying you become the character
Ngl super powers in modern society is useless
Hi
It sure is
thats dumb
Unless it's something that can destroy za warudo
some of those powers are trash but acutally kinda useful
Just reset the world
Why not just use a thermos
cuz sometimes you want non liquids to be warm
like she bought donuts once and had to walk a really long way to bring them to her friends
so instead of them getting cold, she kept them warm
She can warm things 24/7 as long she held them
she can basically freeze the temperature that its at
How did she not burned the donuts or melt the chocolate
Uh.
she keeps it the same temperature
I want a warmer
she doesnt increase the temp
Hat makes chocolate stay unmelted
Just imagine za warudo on the temperature
Ngl
the donuts are warm, and she keeps them warm
It would be cool
by literally telling them to not get cold
she can freeze entropy
which breaks all laws of physics
her singular power destroys the laws of physics
while misaka is bound by them
@ember yoke at any rate fire already gave his ideal of self insert, it wasn't a variety of choice either

Me and Fire have a separate ideal
That's why I said you were right
And pinged fire
Because in reality we can assume what ever we want with self inserts
well yeah but theres also the majority you have to think about
I don't think a person could speak for the majority
Oh wait that’s op then
Oh shit UI would be killer on the sahara
well its only with temperature
UI can maintain the temperature of power plants
so she can only keep the donut box warm
Like, can't they just have her kept the temperature of any enemies in Sahara and they would die from heat stroke?
zilf she has to be touching htem
Yeah
and it has to be the size of her hands
Oh
Wasn’t there like drugs
yeah there were drugs
but anyway isekai talk
kazuma was a dumbass for not marrying darkness
i rest my case
yes exactly
Eh, I think I already said why Kazuma likely didn't, namely it'd kill the story in a number of ways. In a way it'd be Moonlighting all over again.
I guess as long as you have a good writing skills they'd just let you write a novel in Japan huh?
perks of marrying darkness:
money, power, political influence
what kazuma currently has:
no money, no power, negative political influence
What about love
also zilf considering having any spare time when you have a job is unheard of in japan, yes
also zilf, he can just cheat on darkness
she would like that
You need a heart
its a universal win for everyone involved

Konsuba runs on the notion of zany misadventures, and becoming a noble would go against that. And that's excluding any sort of enforced "balance" between the main girls so no one camp gets horribly alienated.
well yeah
it goes against the story, which is why it doesnt happen
but it never goes against kazuma's ideals
Well
Konosuba is complex for me to talk about
It feels like the author wrote something and it sell well due to it being slightly unqiue, but after that it feels like a try hard for popularity
But that's just me
@light flint whatcha think?
its still unique
eh, if the series seriously went about aiming just for popularity, it'd be far more blatant
yeah
my favourite isekai is and will always be saga of tanya the evil
it’s a bit over looked tho I feel 
I think if anything, it's just that there hasn't been much new to remind people compared other stuff going on.
I heard isekai phone was supposed to be good but I don't see it
What's the writing like?
as people in another server Love Tanya
she’s my pfp 
i read the ln of it
the current English translation
writing wise the ln is a lot better than the anime
that must be a lot of books 
theres 12
yeah
the 7th just came out in english
and the date on the afterword from the author is december 2016
the 7th was delayed until December I thought 
I can’t buy it on amazon or Waterstones it’s not available 
oh oof
I see LN more of scripts rather than story writing. It's good and super easy to digest
i mean like im literally holding it tanaka
so idk
zilf the tanya LN is literally a book
like he was told to not write so much
by the editor
Ahhhh
That's lesser than I thought
400
That's better
yeah but for a light novel
now it’s on amazon 
last time I checked it said it was out of stock and delayed on amazon 
I prefer if people adapt script writing more than story writing tbh
oh
can’t trust amazon to be reliable
script writing should be used for adaptation tho
It is, just that there is something amazing about them
like the tanya anime and the tanya books are about the same thing, but they are so different
if you wrote out what happened in the anime, it would be script writing

I read it online
ehh the manga is basically the anime
Honestly, I like the manga more than the anime ngl
I love the anime and all but how does tanya change so much in the art
but the difference is that the manga and anime have to focus on fighting
compare her side to side with the manga and she looks like a different person
The author want duck lips. That is why
its cuz the anime, manga, and LN all have different illustrators
tbh id love it if the manga had the LN art
that would be crazy
ngl looks like tanya from the anime could do a pog face easily
not uncommon with these adaptations, assuming the anime doesn't just take from LN or Manga
oh it does fish
but the LN will just straight up skip fights
so it doesnt make for a good anime if you directly adapt it
I was talking style of art, like I think Gate did
IIRC the anime copied the LN's style as opposed to the more like Manga.
cuz you can actually tell people apart
no
it did not at all
the LN is stylistic but bland
tanya, viktoriya, and mary all look exactly the same in the LN
they are all pretty different across them
I was talking Gate in that
But yeah the Tanya stuff is pretty different with the anime going the Tanamin Duckface route.
cuz they made them look so good
like zeuttor and rudersdorf dont look like generic old guys
you can actually tell apart the guys in tanya’s battalion instead of them all looking like bland generic characters
I say that because I swear they must have gotten some of the folks behind the Tannanin Asagi animated hentai
the anime also added 2 more important side characters
the guy with the long face and the frogman dont exist in the LN
koenig and I forgot his name
im glad you knew exactly who i was talking about lol
Tf is the frogman
yeah well i needed a degree to get into this job, and now we are literally learning from scratch
im now getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to sit and listen to lectures on things ive been doing for 5 years
good luck 
are you the one who is getting a masters or is that someone else
someone else
this is just my job training
like they gave us homework that was estimated to take 9 hours, i did it in 2, and i wasnt even that focused on it
Hi, please talk about your programming job in another channel
As this is #artist-lounge; and thus primarily about art
Tanya anime also had dope WW1 aesthetic that was a lot more fun and unique than the manga imo
Like the anime flight suits are so much cooler than just like wearing coats like they do in the manga

Hello frens, I haven't drawn in a month and a half again
Do I need to change anything here
Worry not. They are just doing their regular WWE wrestling practise
that looks like something that would be from WWE
I’m more curious about what’s going on behind that censor
Nothing ||yet||
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Doesn't really help me, but eh.
What is that? 
My big goal with art is to be able to sell merchandise to support doing what i like
which is drawing itself
I see lood
woow mm also vtuber now :9c

nana mama?
wise words
Deep






O shit, mm vtuber 👀👀
Also, just realized today that coco’s yams arent attached to her head
Theyre just floating


extreme yoga
Interesting
keijiron ping?

i just saw the ping briefly and missed the msg lol
it's on the other server
ahh ic interesting
Incredibly rough doodle of Erebus and Cassin
And yes I need to sharpen my pencil
Just thinking of a concept
Good concept or bad concept
seems ok for concept? its when u detail it to make sure thats expression and aesthetics of that characters will be shown
yeah I will add more details obviously. And draw legs that don't look like Minecraft legs. 
Someone posted SSS content 
?
ah look kool no idea what sss is though
That drawing is done by abec, the sao cover artist and also the cover artist for like 90+ LN
also @tawdry pulsar probably make them to a closer distance for the characters unless ur putting ther things on table
ohhhh abec sensei
Check the group’s twitter or the member’s, they’re basically all the best artist in the industry
Yeah, an oxycola and a cup of tea are supposed to be the props
But I drew the table first because I work backwards
I do stuff like drawing eyes first lol
From what I've seen, Abec's stuff isn't that impressive.
Hmm
Im a sao fan so its all good
Ưhat is sao fan
Though Accel World (what the SAO writer wrote after the original SAO stuff) had Hima as an artist
(guy's best known for hot renderings of the FF5 sisters)
Who the loodest ship in azur
Generally Taihou, Atago, and/or St. Louis

Who's bunbun
well asuna and kiritos design was shit at the time
Who's abec
ohh
SAO artist

sao ln artist u talk bout
ikr
maybe because they only need to focus on little pic
Lol
instead of drawing every single page
Diffrent from the Bunbun who did Fate's Mysterious Heroine X/etc?
Who
klin deer is live
in the uh
?-?
i thought he sank deep under ocean
fuckin
and work
aBeC iSnT iMpReSsiVe
for atlantis
Oh deer
gamergirl livestream simulator discord
But besides that LN artists have to be eyecatching as it's what gets people to buy LNs
that reminds me i must simp for artists
Ln
sub deer for deer meat?
i have 37 cents
I want to draw her
i've nothing
But I fkin hate riven
That’s riven?
spirit blossom
No
just made them looks nothing liek original
Aight
That musashi from fate
Huh
uso de ari
I’m getting trolled
i mean look at thresh
True lmao
I only like kindred
But drawing her take too much skill
wek
im hearing lewd noises in deer stream lol
Wek
I want simple draw
Link? Where’s he streaming?
yernad thats rythm bot
Beji discord?
ye
oh still lood
Is cute
It’s just an anime girl face
@upper zodiac deer streaming at hololive channel
-> it can remind you of anyone
Hmm
hes just drawing random stuff though
granblue fantasy?
eh
new girl from the web vn
I like how the senior chara designer gave up trying to hide the weeb
why not
just design
Hot
Look random
doesnt even need to make sense anymore
Monster girls are

If you’re talking about the ribbon, asymmetry is good
If you want an interesting design, when in doubt asymmetry
nugetto pls come out
Weeb
Riot gone full weeb mode
Almost makes me want to return after 4 years
Don't
maybe i shouldnt have just drawn only torsos and legs for the past 2 weeks
because now my heads look like
aight
That’s a nice hand
lookin good
question for hololivers hachama is not 4th gen?
What do u call those with horse or 4 leg animal body again
Yeh
Centaur pose hmm
Ima search later
Lookin at them while lillia exposing her behind
Lood
not really fond of centaur but ok
Lilia so cute

hmmm which one would u choose if you had to and can't choose none?
And can't choose all at the same time
either all or none
I hate you
Lol

@olive kernel explain why you post that image

are you maybe
into monster girls?

oh shit did you all see the lulu fanart?
hold on
Try going light mode and look at this image again
don't know who made it though
eh werent ppl looking for centaur references
and i do like shitty harem animes
though still havent finishe monsume
go light mode
All hail amoled mode
black mode masterrace
it's a gimmick image
@oak star thanks, i hate you even more
how does one use markers
vry interesting art
copic?
Lood
yes\
Meanwhile
Havent draw anything fufk
Rivrn is simple to draw
But i hate her
Shit tier champ
I WANT TO DRAW KANATA
NUDE BUT SFW FOR COMP

well maybe a bath towel too
and a yakult
orange
Actually I wanted to toss her into a hotspring
do they use towels in hot spring?
or go nekkid?
that's hot ngl
no as in





