technology

[vagrant holly]

except VAT

fuck VAT

[kindred arrow]

Honestly Mrwhosetheboss's take on MIUI 13 doesn't fare well with me

"not as corporate feeling"
?? what

also, commenting on how the UI is more "fun" and "colorful" when I find it more jarring and bloated (especially with the heavy amounts of personalization features that I don't really feel like it's necessary)

Also, no new Android 12 features included, like the more subtle and better theme engine and privacy dashboard, thus what a shame

Also, the Xiaomi 12S phone's more expensive than a good dedicated digital camera, like Sony's ZV-1, which pretty much has the same size sensor but better lenses, more pocketable and better in quality

[sudden raft]

i honestly wish good lock was included at stock but just me

[sudden raft]

people don't like using their other pocket

saying this as someone that has four devices with me on a daily basis

[subtle hawk]

I do follow MrWhoseTheBoss for his reviews, but in this case, definitely not taking his Xiaomi review for granted

Like, it's a good phone definitely, but I definitely am not buying any Xiaomi phone in the next few years

[kindred arrow]

cowards, if they don't want to use the other pocket, why not a bag, a purse, or a pouch? C'mon they got those

people need to understand the basics of balancing their budgets and accept that cramming every single feature into a phone does not make for a better experience in general (wait, did I just mean smartphones in general are bad influence in the first place?? what a hot take)

I could go on about this, but I'm having a hard time just rambling about people's need for skinny jeans instead of proper pants, so there

[sudden raft]

like

both my pockets are used up

i specially requested an extra watch pocket in my jeans once

i have an audio player and tablet and a ILC

[inland marsh]

cargo pants ftw

[worthy musk]

I found a cool thing today

[kindred arrow]

https://www.pcgamer.com/eu-tells-big-companies-to-make-it-easier-to-get-rid-of-pre-installed-software-or-pay-up/

better late than never i suppose

[worthy musk]

Tech people not appreciating my trinitron

[sudden raft]

i had one of those

like

i thik

a model almost identical to that one

[worthy musk]

Why had

[sudden raft]

had to be replaced with a bravia

[worthy musk]

Whats a bravia

[sudden raft]

shouldn't bravia be even better known than wega/trinitron by now

[worthy musk]

Never heard of it

Wait ew theyre led flatscreens wtf gross

[subtle hawk]

I don't think so, x86 is always top in raw performance, I believe each architecture has its adequate field.

It's absurd to have such thing as an architecture superiority.

[wintry forge]

x86 is dated

It's so old

made in 1978

there are definitely better alternatives to x86, raw performance wise

But backwards compatibility also matters

[brazen scaffold]

Does anyone here use the apple airpods pro with a Samsung phone?

[hexed citrus]

ah yes benchmarks build to score x86 higher, absolutely valid argument /s

[quartz atlas]

Well ye

[subtle hawk]

ARM was made in 1985...

Also, an architecture evolves, a modern Intel processor is in no way the same as an Intel 8086.

[subtle hawk]

I mean, in my opinion, it's quite fair to compare the best x86 CPU in the market to the best ARM CPU in the market, but what do you mean exactly by that?

[hexed citrus]

that these benchmarks are made to score x86 higher

because comparing x86 and ARM is like comparing apples to oranges

[subtle hawk]

Uhh what?

There's something you can always measure for example

Like the number of instructions per cycle.

[hexed citrus]

that's is not a useful metric when comparing architectures

if I can do the same computation in 2 cycles while you need 8 but you have 4 times the speed what kind of comparison is that

[subtle hawk]

But in my opinion x86 isn't dying anytime soon, and it's not bad either.

[hexed citrus]

it's garbage

don't kid yourself

it has a ton of useless instructions and requirements from the stone age

[subtle hawk]

"Useless instructions"???

I write low level code and I honestly don't know what you're talking about

Do you even know ARM nowadays is pretty much CISC

[hexed citrus]

and I have a PhD in semiconductor engineering, tell me more about it

[subtle hawk]

There's a ton of useless instructions in ARM too then

[hexed citrus]

which ones

name them

[subtle hawk]

I'm not very sure, but certain there is

But something I don't like of ARM is how naturally closed it is

For example look at Android phones or at the M1

[hexed citrus]

x86 is licensed by AMD and Intel

[subtle hawk]

I'm not speaking about that

I'm speaking about how you can't change the hardware in a M1 or install a ROM in certain Android phones

[hexed citrus]

what does that have anything with ARM

that's a design choice that is mostly enforced by software and firmware

not hardware

[subtle hawk]

Well, ARM easily allows for that to happen, unlike x86 which is more standardized.

[hexed citrus]

you can do the same thing with x86

it's just not economically viable to put so many components on the same die and risk more defects

because x86 components are gigantic compared to ARM

[subtle hawk]

I don't think that's possible like it is in ARM, for example in ARM the manufacturer could just completely disallow the user from installing any different OS.

[hexed citrus]

that has nothing to do with the architecture

I can forbid you from running a different OS on any laptop nowadays

because most modern CPUs have E fuses that you can use to detect and trip when someone goes outside of your target software

[subtle hawk]

oh what

I didn't know that

How does that work

[hexed citrus]

you write low level code, you should know this as it's part of the instruction set and in general the security enclave of modern processors

[subtle hawk]

Oh enclaves? So SGX?

I'm not very sure because I mostly only do osdev.

[hexed citrus]

then even more so you should know this

as it's part of the core of most modern operating systems

[subtle hawk]

Hmm I see

Could you point me to resources to learn more about it please?

[hexed citrus]

you can get the documentation and guides from the main x86 manufacturers

in this case AMD and Intel

[subtle hawk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFuse

Oh TIL

So it's pretty much like a ROM the processor can switch to at any time

[subtle hawk]

Yeah I got both the developer manuals, I guess it's in the chapter 3 of the Intel one?

Or maybe in the basic architecture

[hexed citrus]

I don't remember exactly in which chapter it is

[subtle hawk]

Thanks for teaching me about it, I don't know much about how modern processors work internally.

[hexed citrus]

they're extremely complex

[fiery rain]

And phone just went sayonara

S20 FE

Flagship btw

Guess I'll wait for the battery to die

Oh it's rebooting (?)

Rebooted at 3%

It lost 3% when malfunctioning

[hexed citrus]

discharging it to almost empty

what did you expect

[ebon mason]

hahahahah

[wintry forge]

Only 1tb storage

[worthy musk]

So where am i supposed to buy PVM and or BVM CRTs?

Besides ebay

Where do people evem find these things

Id kill for a nice 20" PVM

[inland marsh]

[worthy musk]

Yeah those

[inland marsh]

Interestingly since a lot of consumer TV here can accept RGB/YPbPr signal, PVM is not that much an improvement

Still sold at around $200 tho

[worthy musk]

Dont you need to modify them for the RGB signal?

[worthy musk]

Apparently the trinitron i have has YPbPr input idk if it actually does anything

[inland marsh]

You can convert RGB to YPbPr simply using external OpAmp

At least you don't have to mod your TV

[sudden raft]

hasn't x86 become essentially a risc compiler at the lowest level

[worthy musk]

My question wasnt really answered though

Where do people get PVMs to sell in the first place

[inland marsh]

With microcode and modern compiler, RISC/CISC distinction is rather moot

Most PVM here is from TV/production house block auction
We only plan to completely abandon analog broadcast recently, so the (potential) stock is still abundant

[worthy musk]

Auction?

[inland marsh]

block auction, so unless you plan to buy hundred of them in one lot then probably wait for some broker to resell

[worthy musk]

Everyone resells them super expensive

[inland marsh]

Not that there's any chance it'll be given to non- well connected employee anyway

[gloomy tinsel]

anybody know why windows search doing that

[wintry forge]

it's probably indexing something

[gloomy tinsel]

I was using my friend pc and its uh laggy.
then I look, wtf is that doing

[quartz atlas]

get an ssd

[gloomy tinsel]

its using one

but Sata

well its old stuff

i5 4430 gtx 970

[quartz atlas]

4th gen cpu, 90series

[gloomy tinsel]

its not that bad right

uh

it is

[subtle hawk]

That's very old lol

[gloomy tinsel]

yeah someone give the pc to him

He didn't use the pc for something heavy just office stuff and meet

[gloomy tinsel]

only this thing buggin me

[subtle hawk]

That's Windows Search indexing. Just let it do its thing

[gloomy tinsel]

I waited 2 hours and it still do that

kek

[subtle hawk]

Well, obviously

It won't be instant

[ebon mason]

good price

[inland marsh]

too many junk
maybe format the whole disk and do clean install
still a good practice anyway for 2nd hand, slow or not

[sudden raft]

i was still using a sandy bridge chip till this year so

[quartz atlas]

Tbf I was on 4th gen till earlier this year too. But like, at least it's an i7

[hexed citrus]

8th gen still

[sudden raft]

mine was a sandy ep so

it outlived its peers by far

and is still alive
bless it

even though it was pumped to 4.5

[worthy musk]

[odd juniper]

seems legit

[odd juniper]

@versed blade

[versed blade]

nice

what were you planning to do with it?

[odd juniper]

Using it for daily use. And maybe configuring it as a nas at the side

cuz using my gaming pc for work is uh

waste of power

since my gpu at idle is already using 45 watts

now it doesnt even use a gpu just a adapter

Did have to tinker with the fanprofiles though. The mobo thought 1800rpm on the fan was normal

[versed blade]

ah I see

[odd juniper]

only thing i hear now is the uh

" coil whine "

from the fuckinug ssd

[versed blade]

my room is like boiling hot due to me keeping the pc on all the time

and basically never on idle

[odd juniper]

get a nuc like me

[versed blade]

rip coil whine

Hmmmm

idk

maybe

[odd juniper]

was planning on installing memu and trying to run al on it but

google protect

is beinga bitch

[versed blade]

gonna wait for Raptor Lake nuc if anything

[odd juniper]

build your own

[versed blade]

Hmmm

maybe?

still want to wait for raptor lake

[odd juniper]

mine was like 550 euros i think for all the components?
45 for case, 13 bucks for the cooler, 260 for the cpu 90 for mobo, 60 for the ram and uh 20 for the adapter

oh and 50 for the ssd

nvme

[versed blade]

12600T

though

[odd juniper]

has lower tdp

[versed blade]

hmmm would have preferred i3 12400

[odd juniper]

well

i would've

[versed blade]

I guess yeah

[odd juniper]

gone with that

but

it was out of stock

and

this one was like

[versed blade]

ah yeah everyone buying it

[odd juniper]

2 bucks more expensive

so

[versed blade]

it's a good cpu

[odd juniper]

12600 it is

also

i went with the T

because

12400 and 12600 non t's

have a default tdp of 65w

and the t has a default tdp of 35

lil bit less performance but cooler

Now I at least outdo hp's and dell's nucs

but now the important part. How well can it run AL

[versed blade]

Hmmmm

might be interesting

i have to resist though

[odd juniper]

for next gen intel / amd u mean?

assuming it'll stay on the 1700 socket i can upgrade ig if i want

[versed blade]

more like I wanna save some cash for a new phone

[odd juniper]

spend less on figurines then

[versed blade]

maybe

[sudden raft]

i managed to record a 9000+MB/s rate once

i think ive noticed coil whine once on my new hardware

but the most annoying sound tends to be the pumps

[odd juniper]

the only sound i hear is the ssd

so im gonna put a heatsink on it to cool it down " and hopefully muffle the sound "

[sudden raft]

i didn't even know ssds could whine

[odd juniper]

me neither

apparently the controller can

[sudden raft]

like they use so little power

a 200W gpu i get but

a sata ssd controller

[odd juniper]

yeah idk it's like a little electrical noise

it doesnt make it when i dont have the ssd in it

[inland marsh]

Most SSD use encapsulated coils, how it even managed to whine?
Some MLCC do exhibit piezoelectric effect, but that would be weird if it actually noticeable outside anechoic chamber.

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKXOpKFK0Bk

Price is tooo high

900$ without taxes

soo with taxes it will be here like 1100-1200USD

just nope

i can easy find cheaper monitor what have same stuff inside

4k 120hz+

[odd juniper]

The fuck apparently the CMOS can make noise too?

[inland marsh]

How? do you mean MOSFET?

[odd juniper]

the battery or the connector. Idk I just plugged in a sata powercable and suddenly it started whining very loudly. Only when im in the bios though and when i was browsing quickly through the bios the sound would disappear for a little second everytime ibrowsed through it

since it's a mini-itx it isn't plugged in the board but via a cable

[odd juniper]

not really whining on the ssd more like ticking

[hexed citrus]

inb4 pc blows up

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYPe4MsALk4

[worthy musk]

Im building a sorta budget pc build but i cant decide on a graphics card

Ive narrowed my choices to the RTX 2080 RTX 3060 TI or a RX 6600 XT

I originally wanted a 2080 ti but the blowers are the only "cheap" ones and even then theyre 450$

Any other suggestions would be apreciated too

[kindred arrow]

@worthy musk I assume you could find those at a used market, but whatever's worth, try finding a 3060Ti

especially, on lower prices

[inland marsh]

Just beware of modded BIOS, lol
this market smh

[kindred arrow]

but if neither of the options are affordable, try buying a non Ti/XT model

Worst case scenario, any GTX 1660 card would be your last resort

But, Worst worst case scenario (because bs like this can happen on certain markets), then... good luck with an RX 6500

Or worse, an RX 6400, or a 1050 Ti

At GT 730 level, you'll start to see why sometimes intergrated graphics may be the best option after all

[worthy musk]

3060s are expensive and the 2080 seems a bit better

But its older and has some overheating issues

[kindred arrow]

there were some instances of blower style 2080s with aftermarket gpu cooler replacements in it

you just take apart the whole blower style cooler, put in a better one

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/evr6x0/my_pny_2080_ti_blower_gpu_is_a_blower_no_more_the/

If you can find a decent 2080 or 2070 blower style cards, and then find coolers like an Arctic Accelero Xtreme for a decent price, and maybe extra heatsinks for vram, that'll be better

do note, the mod can make the GPU taller than usual, check your case for compatibility

[worthy musk]

For all that trouble i could just get a external fan 2080

[sudden raft]

3060 is more efficient especially in RT

[odd juniper]

So you set up the bomb

[odd juniper]

With budget you mean budget PSU too right? How much watt will your PSU have? Make sure what the peak spikes can be with those 30 series cards and what Nvidia is recommending

[inland marsh]

TFW my friend got scammed out from buying laptop w/ RAM upgrade
Turns out they use bulk Samsung RAM with crap timing, I'm not even sure if it's genuine or even cost any more than the original RAM

[sudden raft]

well it might have meant they got two sticks instead of one

which would have been better due to how channels are

[worthy musk]

Im using a 650w psu

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfVF-Ec4naQ

i am using last 15.6 beta

soo 16 soon

i can install 16 but i will w8 for official beta

[hexed citrus]

iOS

[ebon mason]

its last icrap what i use

but still

xD

[odd juniper]

Ah ok should be fine

[odd juniper]

Rams cheap AF nowadays wouldn't buy a laptop specifically cuz it has a lot of ram

[subtle hawk]

I went a trip down memory lane and used an iPhone 6 last night and damn.. I should give iOS a chance again in future, not very soon though, still rocking Android

[ebon mason]

only ddr5 is not cheap

[odd juniper]

[odd juniper]

Because ddr5 is new

[subtle hawk]

Did I said something wrong?

[odd juniper]

When it becomes common prices will go down

[odd juniper]

No just my bias

[subtle hawk]

Oh don't get me wrong, my bias towards Android is still strong

[odd juniper]

[ebon mason]

i only buy 1.5 year ago top iphone bc i wanna try what apple fans say

u need feel it

and i try it

and its MEH

12 Pro Max

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La-dcK4h4ZU

buahahah

looks like igpu amd is better than this intel gpu crap

[hexed citrus]

and?

not like ryzen was being anything when it came out lmao

the software implementation is garbage as expected for a initial release

but the hardware does have the capabilities

[ebon mason]

yee i know

its just looks like gta 5 dont like soft for this gpu

other games works better

[inland marsh]

If it was me I'd rather buy barebone and kit out from there
The problem here is that the seller probably pocket the decent stock 4GB sodimm and swap out for two crappy 4+8GB sodimm (yes, it's asymmetric), for the full price of the 2 stick

[inland marsh]

Problem is that lower end discrete GPU in general are pretty whack right now both in performance and price. It's hard to compare.

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxf-fIubkMs

woo

I was in wheelchair for over 2 months

like tank

its when u go up

now down

[odd juniper]

Just get a good 2nd hand laptop at that point doesn't have to be a lot of ram. Just a decent screen battery and CPU. Since you can upgrade the RAM/ ssd anyways (in most laptops)

[inland marsh]

I mean, I can upgrade them even if they're soldered

[odd juniper]

[worthy musk]

I found a 27 inch flatscreen trinitron but i couldnt get it by myself

Its literally 100 pounds

[worthy musk]

Wait i dont need a higher wattage?

[inland marsh]

650 should be fine, as long as you don't overclock, or your PSU isn't that old

[odd juniper]

Apparently a 3060ti only uses 200 watts with peaks of 400

My 3080 has higher peaks. Hence why I've a big 1000w PSU to be safe

[worthy musk]

What about the 2080

Its a good bit cheaper and delivers similae performamce

[odd juniper]

Pretty sure those peaks are only relevant to the 3000 series. But I think 2080 needs 750? What CPU are you using

[worthy musk]

Probably a ryzen 5 5600x

[odd juniper]

Hm you can do 650 but it's the minimum

Recommend no oc'ing the 2080 though

[worthy musk]

How come

[inland marsh]

650W is a lot of power, lol
It wasn't that long when 750 is considered high power

Make sure it's good quality 650W PSU tho
Crappy one might start to lose regulation well before reaching power limit, and old PSU gradually degrade too

[worthy musk]

I might do a 750 or 850 just to be safe

Why no overclocking the 2080

[odd juniper]

I mean if you oc it it'll use more power and the peaks will be higher too Idk how much the card will use. since not every card draws the same amount. It depends on the games too. Ig if you stresstest it with furmark or run heavens benchmark and look how much wattage it's using you can get a idea how much the card will draw.
My 3080 already draws at least 240 and that's like on half load.

[sudden raft]

ive never seen my GA102 record more than 365W

[sudden raft]

i sometimes just drop the power limit if the game isn't that heavy

[hexed citrus]

https://blog.unity.com/news/welcome-ironsource

unity what the actual fuck

[worthy musk]

So... just go with a bettet psu?

[sudden raft]

what does this mean to me if i haven't read the article

[hexed citrus]

ironSource is a well known company that distributed malware

through their installers

to the point they have a dedicated entry in the antivirus and anti malware dictionaries of signatures

[vagrant holly]

this is the software they came under fire for

lately tho, they have been making acquisitions left and right, and their current product is a platform to implement ads in games and track revenue

the fact that unity is the major engine for indie devs that's free to use, and publish, it could mean that iron puts their grabby little hands on whatever unity game, like say, change the ToS forcing devs to use ironsource's services for their revenue on their mobile game

[hexed citrus]

and rightfully so

fuck installcore

[worthy sigil]

old content

[inland marsh]

Let's wait UB's take on alchemist

[worthy sigil]

what's better, LibreOffice or Microsoft Office?

[subtle hawk]

Microsoft Office, without a shadow of a doubt, because I'm biased towards it personally

LibreOffice is free, however, the mere thought of seeing that UI which screams Office 2003 and is stuck in the past makes me cringe

[worthy sigil]

i don't mind about the UI

transferring to LibreOffice because I used to use... external means.

and i would like to inquire if LibreOffice is worth the switch rather than relying on these external means

[subtle hawk]

I won't mention how exactly I got Office 2021 for cheap (don't want to get bonked), but let's just say that I didn't pay full price for it

[hexed citrus]

office is superior in any way shape or form

[worthy sigil]

went to PCMR discord for questioning, i'm now content

[inland marsh]

There's no contest about it, but does it worth the full retail price? Ehh...

[worthy sigil]

agree. it's a pain to import it via "external means", but libreoffice can do for my usecase as a student

[inland marsh]

Anyway, MAK/GVLK keys are openly sold and MS pretty much don't care about it

As long as you're not business/gov of course

[hexed citrus]

it's not sold as a license

it's sold as a subscription

and yes the subscription is worth as a student

[inland marsh]

I thought it was the O2021 from the context

[hexed citrus]

office wasn't sold standalone since win 7 era

[subtle hawk]

Office 365 is subscription based. Office 2013, 2016, 2019, 2021 can be purchased for a hefty price and it's 1 machine per license basis, can be used indefinitely

[worthy sigil]

old PC that my sister now uses has O365, from school

i used that computer for my education

mow that i am using another PC

[inland marsh]

Office 2021 is still sold standalone, and afaik still available globally too

[subtle hawk]

Indeed

[inland marsh]

It retails at about $120 here, which is about half month minimum salary

suffice to say no one bought retail

[subtle hawk]

I sure as hell didn't, ain't spending over $20 for MS Office suite

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFE9wfAfudE

brownish creamy computer

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e0fRKHG7Hk

[still walrus]

what android emulators do you guys recommend?

in general, not specifically for azur lane

[quartz atlas]

bluestacks

w11 native

[still walrus]

fuck that I'm staying far away from W11 for now

[quartz atlas]

you're missing out

but ye, bluestacks is strong

if you have a good system that is

[still walrus]

nah I like not having random compatibility issues

[quartz atlas]

been using w11 since it was leaked over a year ago never had any issues

[still walrus]

I have a friend whose laptop came with W11 and he'll sometimes have games stop working randomly

I'd rather not deal with that bullshit

[quartz atlas]

i dont think thats a win11 issue tbh

but eh, cant comment without taking a look at the logs of the crash

[still walrus]

no I don't mean that they crash

they straight up just don't open

if it was crashing I wouldn't be so quick to blame it on W11

[quartz atlas]

thats even more strange

[still walrus]

worst part is because the laptop came with W11 he can't downgrade to W10

[quartz atlas]

i spearheaded win11 testing for my enterprise. and we have some old ass legacy apps that date back to the early 2000s. and even those ran without a hitch.

doesnt launch at all is different from the process starting and then dying without making a peep

if is the former, maybe some sort of registry error or the launcher not pointing to the correct .exe

the 2nd one is a crash

[still walrus]

idk I'd have to ask him in more detail

regardless I won't be touching W11 for a long while

[quartz atlas]

im just loving autohdr

and new ui

[still walrus]

nah I really don't like what I've seen of the UI

[quartz atlas]

ye, a lot of people feel that its too modern and a huge step away from the old ui style of windows

but eh, i like pretty things

[still walrus]

I think the taskbar looks like shit

[vagrant holly]

I just need to order a stupid ass tpm 2.0 module and i'm game for win 11

[quartz atlas]

idm man, looks great to me

[quartz atlas]

just upgrade to 13th gen in a few months

[vagrant holly]

[still walrus]

reminds me of a mac and I hate that

[vagrant holly]

I don't feel like spending more money than i need to rn

[quartz atlas]

this i agree

[quartz atlas]

wise choice

[still walrus]

I have a deep distaste for all apple products

part of it is the fact I'm a programming student, part of it come from a couple of really insufferable high school classmates who happened to be apple shills

[quartz atlas]

oh ye those lmao

they just cant stand the fact they paid more $ for a worse platform

[still walrus]

one of them straight up missed a third of the school year because he also had a job

[quartz atlas]

but credit where its due, the m1 macbook air is amazing value

[still walrus]

and then he would come to class, sit in front of his fucking mac and not pay attention and then complain about how the education system sucks

everyone in my class including some professors found him insufferable

[wintry forge]

I use LibreOffice for personal stuff, if I ever need to use MS Office, I can just use the web version that's free

[quartz atlas]

your work doesnt give you a license?

[hexed citrus]

pirating shit are we

also fuck windows 11

I want my taskbar at the top

[mental coyote]

I thought someone'd created a patch for that?

[hexed citrus]

I want native support

not registry hacks

[mental coyote]

Fair enough. Wonder how long they'll make folk wait.

[quartz atlas]

I won't hold my breath

[inland marsh]

Why pirate when you can just not register it and still works fine, mostly

[ebon mason]

i am using win 11 in old style

left style

[worthy musk]

I wanna do a custom wrap for a pc case but idk what would even look good

[wintry forge]

more like the best style

having things centered is unbearable

[worthy sigil]

Be thunderstorm
Time Check: 11:30 PM UTC+8
"Lmao this guy playing Azur Lane"
Strike a tower with lightning
Wifi services are now down
Dissipate 5 minutes later
1 hour after maint ends, that mofo that played AL is having their birthday

What a wild ride, me. Happy birthday, self

[wintry forge]

???

[inland marsh]

[quartz atlas]

I use ulrawide. So centered is great for me.

[versed blade]

ew

win 11

also can't believe they didnt migrate cmd to terminal as default yet

[subtle hawk]

Indeed. Ew

[sudden raft]

i think has like
3m vinyl on it

but it's just for colour

though there's also paint..

[worthy musk]

I mean like the actual design

I wanna do like a itasha style case

[odd juniper]

Today I learned a antenna is basically mandatory is you've a ssd on top of your wifiadapter

[inland marsh]

High frequency lines rarely play nice with each other

[wintry forge]

yep

[odd juniper]

@versed blade

[odd juniper]

yeah bought a antenna for it

[inland marsh]

wait, by adapter did you meant a mPCIe module?

[odd juniper]

yes? what did you think i meant

like a usb adapter should work out of the box

m.2 key e

[inland marsh]

the fuck did you think not using antenna on radio devices

[odd juniper]

HEY

I dont use it

on my pc

and it works fine ok

[versed blade]

yes?

[odd juniper]

4 bars

[odd juniper]

Bought a asustor nas and big drive

[versed blade]

ah btw thanks for the link

I forgot to thank you in Dms

[odd juniper]

16tb ver is like

20 bucks more expensive

[versed blade]

but I dont think I will buy them lol

[odd juniper]

i got that one

[versed blade]

nice

16tb is pog

[odd juniper]

the nas was cheaper

[versed blade]

i know

[odd juniper]

https://www.asustor.com/en/product?p_id=70

[versed blade]

my hdd cost in total like 1k or so

[odd juniper]

[versed blade]

current disks

[inland marsh]

good thing it wasn't high power TX then, it could literally burn due to bad SWR

[odd juniper]

waitwot

also the other one

where it works without the antenna

is uh

z690 gaming wifi e from asus

welll technically it has a antenna already connected it just doesn't have the addon antenna on it

here

this but without the antenna

[inland marsh]

well, that's at least terminated

[odd juniper]

[inland marsh]

never leave RF unterminated

[odd juniper]

are you saying i should still connect it?

[inland marsh]

yes

[odd juniper]

man

but i use ethernet

[inland marsh]

bruh, just disable it then

[odd juniper]

i could

never thought it could do any harm though

wifi adapters are my only weakness

[inland marsh]

the cable itself should be enough, but why wouldn't you put actual antenna?
definitely never leave it without at least the cable connected tho

[odd juniper]

its a mini pc

not really much space to put any antenna

so i got this

[inland marsh]

you can also buy pigtail antenna that connect directly to the module I guess if there's non-metallic window in the case

[odd juniper]

Can't it's nuc size

[inland marsh]

That reminds me to maybe go ahead with my not-quite-sober plan to put pfSense and trueNAS on those aliexpress-special N5105

wcgw

[odd juniper]

[sudden raft]

aren't 2.5 inch ssds usually in a metal shell
the kind that would soak up a wifi signal

[sudden raft]

i thought about doing that
i just have like
3M vinyl wrap on for colour

but there's paint on one panel

[odd juniper]

it's a m.2

there is a m.2 key e under a m.2 slot

[inland marsh]

2.5" are plastic nowdays

not that the PCB itself won't mess up with radiation pattern anyway

[sudden raft]

all of mine
even this cheapo brand korean one
are metal

[hexed citrus]

samsung, intel, kingston and adata ones are definitely metal still

[inland marsh]

you definitely get plastic on bargain bin brands like neo forza, klevv, vgen etc

those bargain bins are basically what's left in 2.5" market here, since almost everyone with a little bit more money usually go straight to m.2

outside of console/prebuilt/laptop parts ofc

[wintry forge]

those drives are so much eaiser to carry than m.2s

metal feels more robust and safer to take with you

i guess it's a niche use case

[sudden raft]

mine have all been samsung
apart from a crucial or two

but that cheapo tammuz is also metal
even the external USB 3.2 one i got from them as a bonus item has a metal shell

[wintry forge]

crucial has a pretty good reputation

I use samsung for desktop but other storage devices like for phones I use sandisk/wd

[inland marsh]

I never actually deal with 2.5 ssd
Pretty much went straight to m.2

[wintry forge]

m.2s were expensive

[sudden raft]

if i want to install another 2.5 inch drive at this point i'm going to have to stick it with tape

[inland marsh]

that's why my first one was basically 64GB boot drive

[wintry forge]

can't tell if that's even a computer at that point

[sudden raft]

my first was 128GB

it had windows and like
a few bare essential programs on it

[inland marsh]

wait, it might be actually mSATA

[sudden raft]

there's so much wiring at the back

it's like that homer meme

[wintry forge]

bare essentials for me

if it can open browser, then it's good enough for me

[sudden raft]

if one of a set of fans on a daisy chain/splitter

stops over a certain PWM %

does that mean there's a connection problem or

is there something weirder

[inland marsh]

do they work fine individually?

do you mix different fans?

[sudden raft]

they're all the same and running off a single header via either daisy chain or splitter i'm not sure
probably y-splitter daisy chain

it's a set of four

for some reason one of them stops over a certain %

maybe like 80% or something on the slider

it works perfectly normally at anything under that like the rest

all fans on the chain are the same model

[inland marsh]

it's probably a problem in that particular fan
daisy chained fans should all receive the same signal
in fact it isn't even actual daisy chain since all of them are parallel

[sudden raft]

if you mean have i tested it separately
the cable jumble is too much and they tucked its cable in behind something and i don't want to fiddle with it too much

[sudden raft]

that's what i'm assuming
the weird part is it has full normal operation up to that PWM %

and can actually be PWM controlled accordingly

i'm not exactly sure how they're connected but i'd assume it's the included noctua splitter

iirc those noctua fans come with a y splitter for chaining

[inland marsh]

pwm receiver glitch all the time
I mean, even a hundred bucks industrial servo do that all the time

[sudden raft]

there are like

what

10 fans in total

so i guess

one being flaky isn't exactly unusual odds i suppose

[inland marsh]

9 fans off the same header is definitely out there tho
why not create zones

[sudden raft]

there's seven A12x25 chromax and two industrial PPC F12s

[sudden raft]

three on top on one header
four in front on one header

one of the four in the front is the one being weird

there's also an A14 on the rear mount on its own header

[worthy musk]

samsung z flip is a bad phone

it fucking broke

[hexed citrus]

that hardline is disgusting

[flint bobcat]

bruh

[inland marsh]

fuck it, void* everything

[versed blade]

rm -rf /*

the key to everything

[spare ravine]

typedef void *any;

[sudden raft]

[worthy musk]

are cctv crts any good?

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45n5pnEyw9o

[hexed citrus]

as I said

the hardware is more than capable

and can trade blows with top spec nvidia cards (AMD radeon is a joke)

[worthy musk]

pvms are overrated i want a viewsonic monitor now

high res and high refresh rates

[wintry forge]

viewsonic is great

[sudden raft]

we had viewsonics in the day

[worthy musk]

are they unreliable

ive heard they have convergence and geometry issues after a while

and when they fail they catastrophically fail