technology

[hexed citrus]

but definitely not something to use for gaming for example

since the outside noise is distracting

I was also looking at the AT M50X but those are ehhhhhh

@quartz atlas or do I go balls to the walls 250 ohm and plug into the DAC + amp combo

[quartz atlas]

Ye you need a quiet room for that, I live alone so it's fine for me.

[quartz atlas]

I never liked at

[quartz atlas]

If your amp can handle it then go ahead

Worst case scenario, it's just not as loud

[hexed citrus]

I mean it's a yamaha amp

nuff said

[quartz atlas]

You fancy ass lad

[hexed citrus]

got it for cheap from a dude that didn't know its true value

[quartz atlas]

I'm using a topping dx3 pro

Sufficient for my needs

And looks good

[hexed citrus]

looks cheap-ish

250

aite I take that back

but the shell does look cheap

[quartz atlas]

Small and cute

Comes with a remote too

It's just a standard metal casing

[hexed citrus]

on the pics it looked like cheap plastic

[quartz atlas]

Nah, anodized aluminum if I'm not wrong

Fuck me if I buy a plastic amp lmao

I don't think I've ever even seen one other than those cheap sub $100 ones

[hexed citrus]

it do be pog then

[hexed citrus]

oh ye @quartz atlas I never knew that meze audio is so close to me

[quartz atlas]

Meze

Is close to you??

[hexed citrus]

ye

5 hour drive by car

[quartz atlas]

Pog lmao

Their empyreans are my dream pair

[hexed citrus]

I saw those

they look like they can blow ur eardrums with orgasmic sound stage

I wonder if you can test their offerings if you take a tour of the office

[quartz atlas]

I heard they weren't amazing for the price tbh

I'm mainly going for looks with that pair

[odd juniper]

my old philips tv (2012) keeps turning off so prob the psu is dead so i bought a 2nd hand one (42pes0001d ) for 40 bucks. its old like 2008 old but was back then high quality and expensive, the interpolation especially in anime where it ups it to 50/100hz is very nice It even has a soundbar but i still have to mount that in short i got worth for my money. hopefully it wont die soon 🥲

[quartz atlas]

2nd hand TVs are really not worth the money imo, esp for ones that old. Large high quality TVs have drastically decreasing price trends for the past decade.

Besides you'd want warranty for your panel

Then again, it's just 40 bucks tho

Hope you enjoy it

[forest nacelle]

Keyboard

Akko rose red switches (lubed) and standard RK brow switches (lubed)

[odd juniper]

I don't the tv as much, I just use if for Top Gear and sometimes anime. Buying a whole new tv wasn't worth for the amount I use it
And thanks I'll enjoy it 👍

[hexed citrus]

I watch almost all my media content on the TV

[gloomy tinsel]

watching on TV and sit on couch is way more relaxing than just sit on your office chair then Watch on Monitor

My monitor is TN panel so yea

[subtle hawk]

I watch anime on my laptop

I do have a TV but it's just much more convenient for me to watch on my laptop

[hexed citrus]

my TV is OLED so it's just

[shut sapphire]

GIT GUD use tv as monitor

im smort

old pic

[quartz atlas]

Neither of those look like a TV tho

[shut sapphire]

@quartz atlas the left one

a freakin toshiba

[remote remnant]

windows 7 kek

[subtle hawk]

Why I have lpddr5 ram?

[quartz atlas]

y not

[subtle hawk]

It's marketed as lpddr4x

[quartz atlas]

5 is better

[remote remnant]

[versed blade]

buy it

and run an info check app

[subtle hawk]

buy it?

[subtle hawk]

no shit, but some ROMS need the lpddr4x

its made for lpddr4x

not lpddr5

since lpddr4x and lpddr5 is different

[subtle hawk]

holy carp

the app is scammy

you need termux

getprop ro.boot.ddr_type

If 0, then lpddr4x

If 1, lpddr5

[hexed citrus]

imagine putting custom firmware on ur phone

[subtle hawk]

its a fucking app

Termux

on google play

you silly iPhone user

[hexed citrus]

I know what termux is

[subtle hawk]

yea

thats what it is

EASY right?

that isnt firmware

[hexed citrus]

and it doesn't have full control over android

[subtle hawk]

ofc no shit

its obvious

[hexed citrus]

also custom firmware doesn't care what RAM dyes you have in your system

[subtle hawk]

then you're telling me

it isn't real?

LMFAO

[hexed citrus]

I'm telling you the firmware doesn't care if you have lpddr4x or lpddr5

[subtle hawk]

nah

so you telling me

I should use ADB

?!!

if so, ill try

but it should be lpddr4x since i bought the phone before OnePlus started using lpddr5

[hexed citrus]

I'm telling you you're obsessing too much over a trivial thing

[subtle hawk]

ok?

so

why should u care?

[hexed citrus]

man this ain't #amagi-general

no need to be aggressive

[subtle hawk]

ayo what

im not aggro

but cool

ugh

i should control what i say

[versed blade]

Yes you should

[subtle hawk]

ye

[slow quiver]

hi

[subtle hawk]

u got nice pc

[remote remnant]

thats some nice cable management

the ppl who made mine dont give a fuck about wires

[hexed citrus]

that GPU bracket is mildly triggering me

[slow quiver]

shes too thicc and needs support

[hexed citrus]

put a figure under it

looks more aesthetic

[versed blade]

but air flow yama

air flowwwww

[subtle hawk]

holy fuck, that's clean

[gloomy tinsel]

hmm battery does degrade overtime

[hexed citrus]

all batteries do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPiQoHhyuAU

[compact cloud]

dafuq

[subtle hawk]

lol

tbh

personal opinion

id really care about aesthetics

just last long enough to survive kicks

and ill be happy

not kicks, bumps and rattles

my table can collapse anytime

[gloomy tinsel]

as long the table have smooth surface no bump or things at all

I would use it

[subtle hawk]

is there any like actual pc nerds here who do pc building, ok so i have this problem here

i wanna move to a new pc

and away from all these huge 3.5" hdd's

i have a real problem actually getting them inside my current pc (i dunno why but they dont fit in the bays, so theyre STACKED ontop of eachother)

and my ssd is actually floating suspended by the cables

[hexed citrus]

fellow data hoarder

[subtle hawk]

why did all the chats move

theyre all moving

[orchid reef]

ye wtf

[hexed citrus]

blame synd

[subtle hawk]

yeah so im a data hoarder

i was looking for like better options like smaller drives or maybe moving to bigger versions of the drives i currently have (some are like 5 years old now so im worried about them failing, one already did)

[hexed citrus]

just get 12 TB drives

[subtle hawk]

apparently u cant even buy 2.5 inch above 2TB so i guess theyre off the table

[hexed citrus]

2.5 drives are shit

period

[subtle hawk]

oh

[hexed citrus]

you want capacity you get 3.5

or SAS drives if you have unlimited budget works

[subtle hawk]

i have a feeling im gonna need to cut down stuff

[hexed citrus]

or you know

build a NAS

[subtle hawk]

NAS are expensive too

[hexed citrus]

no they're not

it's just a pc with a lot of bays

and no I'm not talking about those shit synology NASes that have like 4 bays and are a tiny ass box

[subtle hawk]

yeah thats what i was looking at cos im like a pc noob

[hexed citrus]

talking about smth like this

which is a case made for NASes

then you put in your own motherboard, PSU and stuff

or if you gaming like me you get smth like this

[versed blade]

build a nas

[versed blade]

btw yama

[hexed citrus]

no btw

ur solution is shit

and a waste of space and money

[versed blade]

racking baddddd

too much space needed

I would if I had space

I dont

[hexed citrus]

yet you have space for a full sized mobo and GPU

hypocrisy at its finest

[versed blade]

full size?

for the server?

it's a mATX

[hexed citrus]

for ur thing

mATX

le bruh

[versed blade]

wanted something smol

[hexed citrus]

even smoller

[versed blade]

that's mini

legit

[hexed citrus]

ye

[versed blade]

too smol

[hexed citrus]

mini ITX

[versed blade]

not enough sata

[hexed citrus]

WDYM TOO SMOL

you have 2 expansion slots

you can throw in a RAID card and have like 30 slots

[versed blade]

yeah but where do I keep 30 hdd

[hexed citrus]

not my problem

[versed blade]

ofc not

[hexed citrus]

I'm giving u solutions

and ur like but muh build

[versed blade]

that I cant use because no space

[subtle hawk]

[hexed citrus]

you have space for full sized case

ur argument is irrelevant

[versed blade]

I have a 2m desk only

and 3 monitors

[hexed citrus]

only

[versed blade]

hell one not even in landscape

need bigger

[hexed citrus]

I fit 3 monitors on a 1.3 meter desk

don't come at me with that

[versed blade]

but mine are 3x 27"

[hexed citrus]

sounds like a personal problem

[versed blade]

[orchid reef]

[versed blade]

I couldnt allow myself to have a big one

and all different sizes

that would kill my eyes

either all the same

[hexed citrus]

I have 24" displays

[versed blade]

or nothing

[hexed citrus]

more than enough

[versed blade]

I had 24" it was enough

but more space

[hexed citrus]

apparently not

[versed blade]

on screen

[hexed citrus]

since u got 27

[versed blade]

bigger is better /s

been 2 weeks

never touched it

[hexed citrus]

I could fit like half of my drive racks in that space alone

[versed blade]

too lazy

[hexed citrus]

you underestimate rack servers

[versed blade]

I was thinking for a 4U

but then I gave up

MAYBE

once we expand the house

[hexed citrus]

in a 4U you can fit like 60 drives

obv you're not lifting it after you fill it up

[versed blade]

should be enough for quite awhile

yeah ofc

wish i had a basement

could legit fill it and let it run there forever

[hexed citrus]

one of those dense storage 4Us can weigh over 100kg

[versed blade]

I have an attic

but full of spiders

might not be ideal

feels like a dungeon

[hexed citrus]

like that will matter

just use mesh

4Head

[versed blade]

I wanna have my tech super clean

[hexed citrus]

you'll need to bring it down for maint and dusting off anyway

not matter where you place it

[versed blade]

reason why I would prefer it to have in basement (dont have one) OR

once we expand

a little storage/shed

where i can place my gym stuff and all the shit tech i have

so more space for figures

[versed blade]

just had the time to check the LTT wanshow

man I really hope framework becomes big

was thinking to get one myself

[subtle hawk]

@versed blade hey where did you get that picture

I forgot who the artist wad

I remember having that picture somewhere

I forgot where tho

[versed blade]

?

what picture

[shut sapphire]

cant wait for backlash

[quartz atlas]

what backlash

[subtle hawk]

People with their aging 12 year old machines tryna run Windows 11

although tbf browsing doesn't take that much these days

[vagrant holly]

if your hardware is aging

maybe it's time you get something new

it doesn't have to be expensive just

not 12 years old

[plain mica]

and that's how we have a large e-waste issue

[subtle hawk]

either they learn how to use Linux or e-waste

[vagrant holly]

idk how linux is supposed to heal aging hardware

[plain mica]

it's easier on system requirements

[subtle hawk]

Yep

[plain mica]

https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch03s04.html.en

256 MB of RAM, 10 GB of HDD space, that's it

[subtle hawk]

Easy to strip off almost everything but the essentials

(ie. Alpine)

[hexed citrus]

alpine is not for daily use

and linux won't magically make a toaster run at the same perf as a new pc

[subtle hawk]

Yeah, I know

But it's to give people with 12 year old PCs at least 2 more years or so if they cba to buy a new PC rn or are "environmentally conscious"

[versed blade]

still shit move

[subtle hawk]

I'm aware that recycling is a thing for old computer parts but there are some people who wants to squeeze every singe juice out of old PCs

[versed blade]

allow me to install with warnings and if runs like shit jokes on me

give the user the choice

nothing else

(by me i mean users pre-ryzen 1 era)

[subtle hawk]

Oh, pre Ryzen machines should still be good today I think

but not below 2012 I guess

[versed blade]

no Ryzen 1 is still in debate last time i checked

[subtle hawk]

oh right

[versed blade]

"they're working on it" to make it compatible

but security blah blah blah

[subtle hawk]

but they come with fTPM

I think they do

[versed blade]

they but i think it's 1.0? or something like that

like a lower tier

and TPM2.0 is required

[subtle hawk]

Ahh

Well, idk what Microsoft is thinking anyways

they're trying to become a bit more like Apple in terms of control in the name of security

last time they did that is with Windows Phone

[versed blade]

You either do that for security or let people get viruses etc and let them cry about it

only solution is go Linux

if you want security and choice

[subtle hawk]

true

[versed blade]

but you give up a fair amount of tools and games

[subtle hawk]

Compatibility isn't a problem for me since I have the luxury of running a VM

[versed blade]

again with sDECK maybe something will change

[subtle hawk]

even then Google Docs has served me well in college

[versed blade]

iirc ubisoft released an interview about porting stuff to linux (via proton/native) if the deck is successful

also recently Adobe joined the Blender foundation

[subtle hawk]

The only problem is the Anti Cheat which is kernel level

think they're working on that

[versed blade]

yeah correct

Kinda happy to see everything somehow is still working towards opening up

like proton, anti cheat

hell Sony exclusive to PC as well

and apple finally allowing Facetime on android (ableit shit but there is an option now)

wish shit like this came way before

[subtle hawk]

Linux desktop ain't gonna be a meme anymore

[quartz atlas]

Windows forever

[subtle hawk]

ngl i do miss windows sometimes

the UI mostly

[versed blade]

nah

[quartz atlas]

Win11 is great, don't even @ me

[versed blade]

thanks fish for testing the full release for us

[quartz atlas]

Tho ngl

I'm thinking of getting a MacBook air for school

[subtle hawk]

Fish, you were in the Dev channel right?

[quartz atlas]

Still am

[subtle hawk]

[versed blade]

Uhhhhhhhhh

I like the I had the MBA

M1

nice very nice

for dev/school etc

[subtle hawk]

Had? you don't have it anymore?

[quartz atlas]

The perf for the $ is amazing

[versed blade]

nah not anymore

left my job and returned it

[subtle hawk]

oh it was a work machine

[quartz atlas]

Tho at $1.3k, it's still kinda steep for a school device

[versed blade]

I just dont like how it doesnt autoalign folders/files and other small little things that

imo

check surface laptop

or better

ThinkPads

[subtle hawk]

A chromebook

[versed blade]

[quartz atlas]

Surface is expensive as fuck

So are thinkpads

[versed blade]

just get a used X1

[quartz atlas]

For some reason, Mac is one of the most affordable choices now lmao

[versed blade]

many corporates just throw them out like trash

[subtle hawk]

I want a ThinkPad P someday

[quartz atlas]

I want the warranty tho, so 2nd hand is kinda out of the question

[subtle hawk]

the 17 inch one

[versed blade]

ThinkPad are pretty repairable

[quartz atlas]

Remind me, does MacBook air m1 have a touchscreen

[versed blade]

cant be said for 99% of the laptops

no

it does not

[quartz atlas]

[versed blade]

if you want touch get an ipad pro lmao

[quartz atlas]

I like how it's on sale for $850 in the US

Which is $1150 locally

But even with education discount

I still have to pay $1.3k

[versed blade]

bruh..

that's shit ton

you get a MBA because it's cheaper

but that's expensive

[quartz atlas]

Everything in Singapore is expensive

Sadly

[versed blade]

sadge

Im pretty happy with my t480

currently running w11 to test it out

pretty neat

however what i need to change is my phone

or rather the battery

my OP7P has like 78% battery left

[quartz atlas]

Imma brute force this phone for another 2 years lmao

Have been using it for like 3 already iirc

[versed blade]

damn

wtf

what phone do you have

[quartz atlas]

Mate 20 pro

[versed blade]

damn nice

[quartz atlas]

I plan to pick up android dev sometime

And hms dev as well if it goes well

[versed blade]

hms dev?

[quartz atlas]

So when the battery on the phone dies, imma just flash hmos on it and just use it as an eternally plugged in dev bed

Harmony os

[versed blade]

isnt that just android lol

[quartz atlas]

Not anymore in 2.0

[versed blade]

they do not use apk anymore?

wut?

[subtle hawk]

is Harmony OS going to still be Linux based

[versed blade]

must be

no way they're doing an OS from legit scratch

[quartz atlas]

They still can support apk, but everything else has been rewritten afaik

I forgot what their current installer packages are

[versed blade]

rewriting doesnt mean it's not android based I think they might be using something like AOSP as base

and add their own

[quartz atlas]

Multi-kernel design (Linux kernel, HarmonyOS microkernel, or LiteOS)[2]
Based off wiki

[subtle hawk]

pog, they're writing their own microkernel

[versed blade]

Gonna check it out

sounds interesting

[subtle hawk]

haven't seen a microkernel mobile OS since Symbian and Blackberry

[versed blade]

tho I doubt it will far off from normal android

[quartz atlas]

They install via .app

[subtle hawk]

they'll need a compatibility layer for their own OS

[quartz atlas]

The part that interests me most is that, you make one app with all the packages, and then it's available for install on all harmony devices from fridge to toaster to laptops, as the system will automatically install the cores that will run on those devices

[plain mica]

so containers?

[subtle hawk]

Hello Rob

[quartz atlas]

No idea lmao, I'm not educated enough to know the terms kek

[versed blade]

sounds like it

very much like the ipa from apple

do it once works on all kinda thing but apple ones I think is more complicated than that

[quartz atlas]

Future is exciting for tech tbh, from arm to risc-v to quantum computing

[subtle hawk]

RISC-V is what I'm interested in

open CPU architecture

[hexed citrus]

ppl bitching about windows 11 not working because ugh they're not giving us the option

microsoft tried to get TPM into the norm since windows 7

manufacturers said fuck this shit too much work

so now they're forcing everyone's hand to support it

because surprise surprise keeping sensitive cryptographic computations on a tamper proof chip is more secure than having some vulnerability filled library do it for you

this is in the same nature as ppl running windows XP pcs and complaining that you can't run windows 10 smoothly on them bcz fuck you microsoft

[versed blade]

TPM has been around for a while

it's just not enabled by default

About running smoothly sure, if you run it on like ancient hardware. However not supporting Intel 7th gen and downwards and Ryzen 1 is shitty

they both are great hardware still

and only 4 yrs old

[plain mica]

the timing with the chip shortage is also unfortunate

[hexed citrus]

great hardware doesn't meant automatically supported hardware

AMD doesn't maintain their 1st gen

intel the same for older CPUs

[versed blade]

their both supported still

[hexed citrus]

what latest mobo comes with ryzen 1 support

[versed blade]

Intel, AMD and Nvidia arent phone android companies

[hexed citrus]

yes they are

[versed blade]

last previous gen mobo

[hexed citrus]

don't lie to yourself

[versed blade]

X470

legit one previous gen

actually X570 too I think

Ryzen 1 has been supported for a while

[hexed citrus]

well not anymore

[versed blade]

what do you mean not anymore

x470 are still out there getting sold

[hexed citrus]

and?

they're not latest

[versed blade]

if you're rich enough to change CPU every year lucky you

[hexed citrus]

as a product engineer will you focus on what came out 2-3 years ago or focus on latest?

think ramzh think

long term not immediate

[versed blade]

it's not about that Yama

You support a CPU for a quite awhile and that's a fact

their are supported

hell nvidia legit just dropped support for the 7X0 series GPU this year

[hexed citrus]

the older CPUs will work as long as you have a TPM module on the mobo

[versed blade]

not according to MS

[hexed citrus]

which many of them don't

or can't

besides nobody is asking you to upgrade to win 11 the day it drops

[versed blade]

I know I am just saying

shit that can work fine

is not going to get the upgrade because MS

policies

give the user a choice is all I am saying

[hexed citrus]

I mean my single core AM2+ CPU still works fine

why can't I run windows 10 on it

fucking microsoft smh

/s

[versed blade]

You can install it iirc but wort run at all or smoothly?

ryzen 1 is supported by Win10

Win11 is just Win10++

[hexed citrus]

in the end it's MS' decision and they have good reasoning for it

[versed blade]

I agree

good reason

yes

but let the user choose

[hexed citrus]

the user has a choice

not install it

[versed blade]

that's not choosing

[hexed citrus]

windows 10 doesn't suddenly become unusable the moment 11 drops

[versed blade]

they're cannot install in the first place

true

[hexed citrus]

because they have outdated hardware

nothing new

[versed blade]

"outdated"

that's a streach

a big one

[hexed citrus]

just like you can't install latest iOS or android on ancient bricks

[versed blade]

iOS supports their stuff for looooong

android can but they wont

reason why you have comms OS

[hexed citrus]

wdym they won't

4 years is plenty for the most part

and again

[versed blade]

Android always supported for 2y major and 3 security

[hexed citrus]

the phone isn't automatically unusable after the lifecycle of that phone is over

[versed blade]

unlike apple who supports 5+

true I agree but what if I want the latest security patch? buy a new phone after 2-3 years?

again I see the point, but I do not 100% agree with it

[hexed citrus]

nowadays these patches are offered via play store updates

[versed blade]

f

you distracted me

I leaked another time

F

[hexed citrus]

fix ur damn run

smh

[versed blade]

shut it

[hexed citrus]

people will eventually get over it

[versed blade]

ofc there is nothing they can do

[hexed citrus]

by the time windows 10 reaches end of life most will have upgraded their pcs

[versed blade]

thanks yama

[hexed citrus]

[quartz atlas]

W10 is still supported for 4 years

And 4 years is quite a typical upgrade cycle tbh

By that time, 7th gen Intel would be 9 years old

That's a long long time for a cpu

[hexed citrus]

exactly

but muh bleeding edge

[quartz atlas]

W11 doesn't even offer perf improvements for older cpus based on my own testing from running it on a 4th gen i7, it's literally running slower than on w10

[shut sapphire]

are ryzen 3100 can supprt win 11??

[quartz atlas]

It's almost as if systems optimized for newer cpus doesn't run well on old hardware or smth

[hexed citrus]

ye 3rd gen can run w11

[versed blade]

it's about giving a choice

normal users should be able to upgrade if their hardware is more than capable

because let's be real, everyone wants the latest and greatest

[quartz atlas]

Normals users are idiots to be honest

I mean

I literally just handled a case

Where a user logged that he was unable to log in to his computer

The fucker was tryna log in to the admin account with his own password

The only thing that will happen if Ms opens w11 up to older hardware will swathes of idiots saying how shit and slow w11 is becuase it was not optimized for their processors

Not to say that isn't already happening with some 12yr old wannabe hackers who installed the "leaked" versions

[versed blade]

That's true

I think that's true for everything

The thing is it's not about old hardware

If my CPU is 4 yr old now and W11 is out now, I as a user would like to install it. That's how it is

I am not gonna wait 4 yr for W10 to eol

[quartz atlas]

8th gen is 4 yrs old tho, going on to 5

[versed blade]

8th gen is 4 yr orld

Yes

5 next year

[quartz atlas]

Exactly

[versed blade]

7th gen

And Ryzen 1

Are 4-5 years too

But all of them are more than capable to run w11

Easily

[quartz atlas]

7th gen may be partially supported last I heard, will have to wait for Ms to confirm officially

[versed blade]

And these are not supported

As of now

They said they would work on it

Because of the backlash they had

[quartz atlas]

Anything can be capable to run w11 honestly. Just that, there's no performance benefits for them to move to w11

I mean, w11 has been installed on pi's and windows phone

It's not a hard thing to run

Like me tbh, I'm running a 4th gen processor, but I know of the performance penalty and willing to accept it, so I bypassed the hardware check and went ahead to install it anyway

It's not like it's impossible to install w11 if you really want to

If you want w11 that badly on old hardware, just do it lmao and accept the penalty

[versed blade]

Oh yeah that's exactly what I am saying, but to install it is to go through various hacky routes

[quartz atlas]

Ms is releasing a product for free and supports 4yr old hardware, that's pretty respectable for any tech company

[versed blade]

totally not

imo

nvidia just dropped the 770 drivers on august this year

that's 8-9 yr old

[quartz atlas]

You should know that en don't read ramzh, even if they have 3 screens popping and saying you'll have perf penalties, people are still just gonna ignore it and bitch when w11 is slower than W10 for them

[versed blade]

apple supports OS for macs for loooooong

that's gacha lol

general PC consumer sure

i can see that happening

[quartz atlas]

And ms is supporting W10 till 2025, by then which 7th gen will be 9yrs old tho

[versed blade]

that's fine W10

but not supporting hardware that is capable is a big no imo

I think W7 had a longer maybe support

[quartz atlas]

Each to their own I guess, I'm not saying I support the decision, but it just makes sense to me

[versed blade]

oh totally

[quartz atlas]

Talk about w7 lmao

[versed blade]

I understand

I understand the why

[quartz atlas]

We still have devices running w7 in my company lmao

Using those are a pain

[versed blade]

I just dont their decison

in hospitals here people run W7

they're slowly upgrading to 10 now

lol

[quartz atlas]

But normally for those w7 devices, I just deploy W10 to them the moment I get them or just mark them for disposal if they're old enough

Our W10 image is still on 1909

I don't think my manager has plans to move beyond that anytime soon

[versed blade]

didnt 1909 stopped getting support?

[quartz atlas]

🤔

Wym stopped getting support

[versed blade]

nvm it's the home and pro

that did

doubt the enterprise ever will

[quartz atlas]

[versed blade]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing

[quartz atlas]

If it were up to me, I'd stop purchasing new hardware, and start pushing out windows 365, to at least replace the desktops

But then again, looking at the preliminary pricing put out by Ms, it's kinda not cost effective, esp when my company has extremely long depreciation cycles

[versed blade]

yeha

that sounds like a good idea

it's mostly good for long terms when your OS is no longer supported imo

[hexed citrus]

that moment when you run into the limitations of arduino and have to resort to using a full blown RTOS

[paper relic]

M wants the world to use the latest windows by stop supporting their older OS but the reality is a lot of systems still run on xp and 7

[versed blade]

yeah those system should be updated to 10 by now

otherwise they will end up like the those that got affected by wannaCRY

[hexed citrus]

and the reason win11 has such stringent requirements is bcz of shit like wannacry

from their research they concluded that the increased security of the OS outweighs the lack of support for older gear

[versed blade]

please yama, wannaCRY was a fault on windows side

not the hardware

iirc was something to do with windows email protocol or similar

you could have the latest hardware nowadays but if there was no patch to fix that bug you would have still your hdds encrypted with wannacry

[subtle hawk]

SMBv1

[versed blade]

oh thanks that was it

[shut sapphire]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Damage-control-Microsoft-deletes-all-comments-under-heavily-criticized-Windows-11-upgrade-video.553279.0.html

[hexed citrus]

SMB v2 is used since win7 era

you had to have legacy hardware or be daft to use v1

that and NSA sitting on that zero day

[versed blade]

that was directly linked to the OS itself not the hardware

again you could have been on W10 and still get infected

[versed blade]

legit what did they expect

"it sucks but everyone else apart from you will enjoy it"

[hexed citrus]

blaming the OS for people being dumb is not the way to go

[shut sapphire]

@hexed citrus welcome to 22 century

[quartz atlas]

yum

$6000 gpu anyone?

[vagrant holly]

is that yours?

[versed blade]

Are you saying that MS has no fault in the all wannaCry siatuation and co? Ok

[quartz atlas]

nah, i work in the IT dept in my company, I was troubleshooting it

[vagrant holly]

oh ok

[vagrant holly]

man, undervolting is so much fun i regret not learning to do it earlier

[odd juniper]

@subtle hawk

my new temps with the applied thermalpaste and thermalpads

its like 30c lower now

[subtle hawk]

thats a lot better

[odd juniper]

wonder how hot it'll get when i'll stress it

@subtle hawk

before it would go up to 104c

and the gpu to 80c

now gpu max is 61 and memory 74

[subtle hawk]

isnt 104 kinda dangerous

[odd juniper]

exactly

110c is the treshold

then it'll start throttling

for the memory

100c for the gpu i think

then it'll start throttling

[subtle hawk]

i think my gpu listed like 98

[odd juniper]

well

maybe overclocked?

what about the memory though?

[gloomy tinsel]

78 highest temp

No AC room

[vagrant holly]

undervolt it

my gpu runs 10 C° cooler at it's highest temp ever since i undervolted it

it reached 84 C° when fully loaded, now it only gets up to 75 C°

[odd juniper]

this shit is still in beta? i can't oc my 6950x without this bios now

[vagrant holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABh3MKX4A4

[quartz atlas]

What are you excited about

[vagrant holly]

i'm a noctua fan

pun intended

[quartz atlas]

ah

[subtle hawk]

pog

a noctua fan that has arms and legs

[versed blade]

finshed the server

[quartz atlas]

Pog

What u running it for BTW

[versed blade]

well

planning to buy unraid. To lazy to set up anything more for now

as I am rushing to get this up and running asap

[glad gust]

This dead as desert

[warped roost]

just asking tho does anyone understands assembly code here?

[severe falcon]

what kind of assembly

[hexed citrus]

i8086 and x86 I can do

ARM I am a bit rusty

[severe falcon]

i did ARMv7 for a bit, but idk the others

[subtle hawk]

I understand some x86 but it's Turboland

[warped roost]

erm

it's 8086 i believe

16 bits

[random magnet]

????

[subtle hawk]

What

[versed blade]

[subtle hawk]

???

windows 10 is soo buggy

i cant play apex without it popping me up to the whaterver thing that is

how long does it take to reset windows 10

and install everything

from discord to games

[plain mica]

that vastly depends on the hardware

SSD, CPU, alt etc

[subtle hawk]

oh

idk what they are

like what model they are

the ram and ssd idk

but ik th essd and cpu

[plain mica]

even if i knew i couldn't tell you how fast it would be

[subtle hawk]

got

it

im gonna reset windows

ill see if it helps its buggyness

I chose cloud reinstall

Since nothing local is nice

[subtle hawk]

Idk if my oneplus beta is android 12 or 11

But I'm gonna install it

I might regret it tho

Bruh it won't let me

Kinda makes sense tho

They don't care about giving support for these anymore, like the last time they updated that place was june

[random magnet]

at least it isn't making your PC slow like Win 11

[random magnet]

OnePlus is no longer OnePlus, it's just Oppo with OnePlus branding

I mean they were ever since, but it's more obvious now

[subtle hawk]

lol

[subtle hawk]

lmfao yea

they never were a good brand

but ill stick with them

since i don't want apple or samsung

maybe samsung in the future

[random magnet]

you can go with Linux though

[quartz atlas]

[plain mica]

i haven't noticed any perf change but im on a high-end PC most of the time

[quartz atlas]

Its hard to see perf increase on high end systems in day to day anyway

Unless you running benchmarks all the time

That reminds me

Imma run benchmarks on the workstation at work

Just got w11 installed yesterday cuz they want me to start testing compatibility

[random magnet]

benchmarks are just PC exams

my PC got slower when I updated to Win 11

but my laptop won't stop nagging me to constantly update to WIn 11

annoying really

[quartz atlas]

????????

You cant upgrade unless you're in Dev or Beta for insiders channel.

And if you are, and your computer is supported, it should be running faster. I have not yet seen a single case where a supported system actually runs slower lmao.

[sacred hemlock]

https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/samsung-reveals-ddr5-7200-512gb-ram

[hexed citrus]

I have seen, it's called people whining about a new OS

[quartz atlas]

[plain mica]

Samsung expects mass production for its DDR5-7200 512GB memory modules to commence by the end of the 2021. The company believes that DDR5's shift over to the mainstream market won't happen until 2023 or 2024. However, Intel's 12th Generation Alder Lake hybrid chips, which are the first mainstream processors to support DDR5, will lead the charge when they debut in Fall 2021.

so looks like im upgrading my CPU/mobo/RAM in 2-3 years

[mental coyote]

Man. That's an assload of RAM

Nice clockspeed, too

[subtle hawk]

For Windows 11, you need to be 14+

Im not 14+ I'm sad

No windows 11 bruh

[flint bobcat]

just use linux

[subtle hawk]

Why use Windows 11 when you have Windows 2000

[vagrant holly]

because win 2k dropped support a long timed ago and you can't play skyrim anniversary edition on it

[quartz atlas]

its a joke brudder

[vagrant holly]

i know, i'm joking too FISH, LOOK I'M TALKING ABOUT SKYRIM ANNIVERSARY EDITION, YOU THINK I'M BEING SERIOUS?

[quartz atlas]

It is indeed coming out tho

Went over my head I guess

My bad

[vagrant holly]

[subtle hawk]

Laptop 3060 is almost the same as the desktop 3060 in performance

[subtle hawk]

Bruh

Around

It's still worse

Sussy balls, my prebuilt isn't shipping bruh

[subtle hawk]

New windows 10 install, it's bugging out alot

[shut sapphire]

why 2 different architecture

[quartz atlas]

big little

[shut sapphire]

loli

[plain mica]

might just be some older models use the older chip?

[subtle hawk]

Haha thermals go brrr

I'm gonna go play genshin and see the temps after an hour or so

[subtle hawk]

It's so different bruh

[subtle hawk]

Soc is 50 degrees celsius after a little bit of honkai

Is that normal?

[subtle hawk]

I hit like 60-70 degrees celsius

Here's one after it cooled a little

Just a few seconds of cooling

[versed blade]

New SSD

[quartz atlas]

poggies

[versed blade]

now there is the pain of turning off the pc and opening it to install and clone the the ssd

[quartz atlas]

i'd just do a fresh install

w11 iso is out anyway

[subtle hawk]

It wouldn't look out of place if Windows 11 was released on 11/11

[versed blade]

???

Source?

Thought was coming end of year

[quartz atlas]

Ms website

[versed blade]

[quartz atlas]

It's not the full GA release obviously

[versed blade]

Ah.

Hmmm

Let's see then

[plain mica]

yeah it's currently in the "beta" insiders channel.
i mean it works but if you don't want to deal with issues w10 is still solid (im typing on a w11 install though)

[subtle hawk]

Lol

I just am not old enough for Windows insider

[versed blade]

I know that but didnt know the iso was out?

anyway I kept my W10 install

cba to deal with W11 also gotta wait for APK support

[hexed citrus]

I'm not installing W11

removed my top taskbar

😠

[subtle hawk]

Bruh

I like it bottom

Why does my phone get like 50-60 degrees celsius when playing games

Like internal

Not external

[flint bobcat]

why are you playing games on phone

[subtle hawk]

cuz i hate genshin

i don't want genshin on my pc

its like bloatware

but i want to play it

its like that, i hate it

[subtle hawk]

That's all

Help, my laptop audio jack doesn't work

I need to use type c for gaming now

[upbeat crypt]

Issues...I got gsod

Animations are good though

[subtle hawk]

bruh

[upbeat crypt]

Fun fact: I got gsod three in a row some day ago

But so far none has popped up in a while

[subtle hawk]

Sad

Wait

That's good

[pale pawn]

because games are intensive

[subtle hawk]

Why tho

Why does it intense

[pale pawn]

its like complaining why my gpu at 100C while you have etherium miner running in background

[subtle hawk]

Lol my laptop hits 96, it's normal

50-60 is rookie number

[pale pawn]

because games are computationally performance intensive

[subtle hawk]

Why tho

Just make it less intensive

Why do people want ray tracing anyway

[pale pawn]

optimization can only go so far

[subtle hawk]

Ok

I will watch yt now

Byr

[gloomy tinsel]

50-60 is idle laptop temperature

[gloomy tinsel]

just a Overclocked version of urs

[subtle hawk]

Do I still keep my digital license for Windows 10 if I switch drives?

[subtle hawk]

That's, that's not an improvement

I have my mom's old 970 evo plus

I want to use that

[subtle hawk]

Wait what why is your cpu clock lower than mine

[subtle hawk]

Also a xiaomi phone?

Or something like that idk

The clock speed is higher I guess

[subtle hawk]

The bottom border so big, is that a laptop

[pale pawn]

laptop or desktop

[hexed citrus]

it's because SoCs do not keep a constant frequency

[subtle hawk]

Desktop

[subtle hawk]

Desktop I'm talking

Just an SSD change

Not component

[pale pawn]

do u have windows license linked to Microsoft account

[subtle hawk]

????

What does that mean

How to link lmao

[subtle hawk]

No

Or yes

Idk what how to link

What does it mean to link @pale pawn

[pale pawn]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/reactivating-windows-10-after-a-hardware-change-2c0e962a-f04c-145b-6ead-fb3fc72b6665

entire process right here

[pale pawn]

this part

[subtle hawk]

Ah

I do have that yes

[pale pawn]

then should be able to just log in with same ms account

then if not activated, just run the activation troubleshooter and say hardware changed

[subtle hawk]

Wow

Such simple

Thanks

[pale pawn]

and if all fails, contact microsoft

[subtle hawk]

Bruh

I won't

Ill just use my laptop ssd

That uses amd

And put it on the Intel desktop

If it dies it dies

[pale pawn]

will ssd be replacing boot drive?

[subtle hawk]

Yed

Yes

[pale pawn]

oki

[subtle hawk]

Lol they say amd can't switch with Intel

The drives and stuff

[pale pawn]

just make sure ur license is digital

[subtle hawk]

Yes it is

For my laptop at least

[pale pawn]

pff just reformat drive then install windows

[subtle hawk]

The desktop isn't here yet

[subtle hawk]

Confus

Laptop is linked

But I can't use that one for desktop right?

[pale pawn]

you should if its digital

[subtle hawk]

Ok

So just a windows reinstall on the laptop ssd

And troubleshoot

Ill get it working on desktop right?

[pale pawn]

i would clean install windows to make sure theres no fucky wucky

[subtle hawk]

Yes

[pale pawn]

also make sure you have necessary drivers for your desktop already downloaded

[subtle hawk]

Clean install windows, I must

[subtle hawk]

Oh

Why

[pale pawn]

well

things like

wifi

[subtle hawk]

No wifi

[pale pawn]

probably aint gonna work ootb

[subtle hawk]

And Bs like that

I have like 4 USB drives

I'll prepare a usb with windows first

[pale pawn]

assuming you got a dgpu

[subtle hawk]

It's soldered

[pale pawn]

windows will just use basic vga drivers or sum stu

what

[subtle hawk]

What

Wdym what

All laptop gpu is soldered

[pale pawn]

what kind of flippin desktop is this

[subtle hawk]

Desktop, oh desktop, it is dgpu

[pale pawn]

okay then yes

[subtle hawk]

The 10400f doesn't have igpu

[pale pawn]

dgpu needs drivers

[subtle hawk]

What now

[pale pawn]