technology

[random magnet]

though many DSLRs do that

but not to an extent to what even a flagship phone does

[hexed citrus]

most prosumer cameras output in RAW files that are the naked image

[random magnet]

I think most modern DSLRs actually process RAW

I wonder if the thing shyny sent can do it

haven't checked the specs that much

ah wait, it does

though it's really really old. Not even 2012 old

dunno if you can even buy lenses for it

but I guess for a beginner, it'll do

[hexed citrus]

most lenses use the same connector

[random magnet]

hmmm, as long it's the same manufacturer right?

and as long it supports it that is

you can't just use a 24mp lens on a DSLR that only supports 20MP

correct me if I'm wrong

[hexed citrus]

they're standardized across manufacturers

it's not all about megapixels

[random magnet]

that means, I can use a 2015 lens on a 2005 DSLR?

Interesting

so I saw an article

Canon EF lenses will work on any Canon EF-compatible cameras

[elder venture]

Yeah I did my research on sensor size compared to MP

[random magnet]

what did ya find

[elder venture]

And while it only has 8mp, it has way more potential than my 12mp phone camera

[random magnet]

I mean

it's a pureshot DSLR

[random magnet]

it's opt to have a larger sensor

[elder venture]

Mine has the ASP-C (Canon) sensor, compared to a 1/3 sensor on my phone

[random magnet]

the larger the sensor the more light can fit

[random magnet]

what's your phone again?

[elder venture]

An iPhone 7

[random magnet]

ahh

yeah

[elder venture]

I can’t afford anything too expensive

[random magnet]

even old DSLRs can do better than most flagships nowadays

they only have to brag about MP

[elder venture]

I think it mathed out to 28mm sensor in this

So 301mm larger in the camera for a 4mp loss and less processing

[random magnet]

while only 8mp, it has a 22.2 x 14.8mm sensor size

that's larger than most phones, even today's flagships

last I heard was a 1inch sensor

[elder venture]

The way I understand it, in the end it’ll be quite a bit better than my phone could ever do

[random magnet]

that's currently the biggest on a phone

[random magnet]

of course

[elder venture]

And as a starter, for dirt cheap, if nothing else it’ll allow me a chance to get accustom to it. Learn what settings are and how to actually take photos

Then I can save up for one of those 32mp newer cameras that’ll cost me like $500

[random magnet]

that's the spirit. I actually learned now that even new lenses can fit and work on old ones

[random magnet]

yeah, so as long it's not quite broken, it should work

I had a similar camera, called EOS600D

it's newer, had 20mp sensor and about 35-70mm focal length

dunno the sensor size though

[elder venture]

The listing said it was just that the flash was stuck closed

[random magnet]

Canon's UI is so easy to learn

[random magnet]

ahh just gotta force it out

[elder venture]

I’m probably not gonna bother with lenses and stuff, because I don’t have much disposable income

[random magnet]

ahh why did you become interested in photography? Just curious

[elder venture]

Vacation with the gf last week. I really enjoyed taking pictures of things while I was out, and she said they actually looked good

I had always wanted to learn though, I follow a lot of Japanese photographers on Twitter and always wanted to take pictures like they do

[random magnet]

ahh, that's actually a good way to being inspired. I wanted to do photography since I really like taking landscapes

photos are a good way to express oneself. I am currently learning the process of picture editing, especially on RAW images

if you want pure unadulterated images, I recommend shooting RAW

Raw, like the name, is basically what your lenses see, without post-processing

[shut sapphire]

https://youtu.be/52vo1g4VBbc

cant wait to lose my leg after i buy this

and being a suspect for carrying pocket bomb

[remote remnant]

sus

[vagrant holly]

somebody in vietnam going absolutely ape shit over my steam account

[remote remnant]

somebody tryna yee yee on your account

[gloomy tinsel]

Im trying to get Razer viper mini

good mouse?

[loud rose]

One message removed from a suspended account.

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[plain mica]

yeah some reviews were saying the deathadder v2 was the best wired mouse at some point last year

[gloomy tinsel]

@loud rose palm grip?

[gloomy tinsel]

Because I want to switch since I feel my hand is too big for G103

[wintry forge]

personally I like the ambidextrous design of the viper mini minus the side button

[hexed canopy]

Okay then, stealth destroyers got too expensive, but what about stealth aircraft carriers?

[quartz atlas]

?????

fuck u gonna hide a floating city with giant ass planes on it with

[vagrant holly]

if stealth destroyers are too expensive, what makes you think a stealth CV is gonna be less expensive when it's 6 times the size of a zumwalt anyway?

[hexed citrus]

time to make the helicarrier from the MCU

[hexed canopy]

What type of stealth ship could end up being neither too expensive nor useless?

[hexed citrus]

stealth

that's where you went wrong

[vagrant holly]

anything that can't be replaced at a reasonable cost is useless as a tool of war

it's one of the main reasons why japan got annihilated in WW2

their doctrine of "kantai kessen" hinged on the idea that there is one big battle that will decide the fate victor

when in reality, war is much more a matter of attrition

whoever can keep up for longer, wins

unless you know, atomic bombs

[hexed citrus]

there's still this major engagement where both sides send out most of their assets

then it's a war of attrition

[vagrant holly]

ye sure, it starts as a big thing in an effort to try and end it there and then

[hexed canopy]

@vagrant holly @hexed citrus Well, I’m hoping for the military to come up with something that could replace the Arleigh Burke class without expanding that much cash as the Zumwalt class…
At least the Zumwalt class will get hypersonic missiles

[hexed citrus]

newer tech means more money

[hexed canopy]

So no easy solution…

@vagrant holly there are moments the US military goes easier with their cash, right?

[vagrant holly]

zumwalt has already been scrapped

us military never goes easy on their cash

they have the biggest military budget per capita of any army in the world

they constantly come up with the latest stuff

[hexed canopy]

I bet neither does the Russian and Chinese military

[vagrant holly]

yes but russia and china are nowhere near the US in terms of military tec

[hexed canopy]

Well, they’re trying to keep up and even have their nukes

[vagrant holly]

tho keep in mind, real war isn't exactly like in a videogame, if you want to win a war effectively, you need to be leaps and bounds ahead of the enemy, and, despite all their effort and resources invested, not even the US could get out of a conflict with russia and china and recover as if nothing happened

unless you know, atomic bombs

sure they are trying to come up, but it's not like the US is just gonna sit around twiddling their thumbs as their enemy catches up to them

[hexed canopy]

Yes, that means the end of the world…
Is it just for show of power or are they really effective on keeping relative world peace?

[vagrant holly]

they are

and even without nukes, we are at a point were military technology is so advanced that you really wouldn't be able to declare a definitive "victor" if a conflict broke out

[hexed citrus]

it's not the weapons themselves that keep peace

it's the treaties and the moral deterrent that does

like would you be able to live knowing you killed billions of people?

[hexed canopy]

The Tsar Bomba really showed the full power of nuclear warfare…
unless… an antimatter bomb

[vagrant holly]

i guess you would when you aren't doing the killing and the deaths are just a statistic you have on the table every morning

i know not every person in power is like that

but people who start this type of shit usually are

[hexed citrus]

that's a hydrogen fusion bomb

but I digress

[vagrant holly]

ye we can make "cleaner" bombs that are just as destructive as nukes

[hexed citrus]

and antimatter is too expensive to even use it for anything other than research

[hexed canopy]

@vagrant holly @hexed citrus you want to hear something worse? An Antimatter Bomb!

[vagrant holly]

anti matter bombs are fantasy land

as yamato said, it's already expensive enough to research

let alone making a bomb

[hexed canopy]

Phew

@vagrant holly well, again, do you think this time the US military could try again replacing the Arleigh Burke class?

[hexed citrus]

a couple of atoms of antimatter cost more than 10 ICBMs

[vagrant holly]

i don't fucking know dude i'm not a military expert

[hexed canopy]

Technologically speaking

[vagrant holly]

idk what kind of tech the US military has

they keep shit hidden, as they should

[hexed citrus]

I mean it's not like they have something beyond existing technical limitations

[vagrant holly]

ye but some of the best minds humanity has to offer work in the military field

i wouldn't be surprised if they had some wild shit cooking up there

not conspiracy bullshit of course but there must be tons of ideas and prototype that keep failing of stuff we would only imagine

everytime war broke out, new tech was created out of necessity and ended up later getting repurposed for civil usage

commercial flights were born because they repurposed infantry transport planes

the radio, which lead to the telephone, which lead to internet, all came from the radar, which was made to detect enemy warships at a distance

the microwave too

[hexed citrus]

it's necessity that drives progress

be it in war or economical

like AMD cooked up ryzen to cuck intel

[vagrant holly]

yes but whenever it's an economical issue, we seem to have an easier time pointing fingers at each other rather than addressing the actual weaknesses that lead to said issues

[hexed citrus]

ppl made radar to cuck planes

at the base of it same principle

[vagrant holly]

actually

you're right

even in times of war companies only innovate to get the contract and the government money that comes along with it

[hexed citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringPorn/comments/nlk9xx/crosssection_of_submarine_cable/

[hexed canopy]

I feel that’s what got the world out of the Great Depression of 1929…

[tame topaz]

Y'all won't believe what happened

So back when I bought me new laptop I installed a new vbios from lenovo's website

Which borked the gpu

They just flat out replaced the mobo when warranty eventually came

And as it turns out that mobo has a Ryzen 7 instead of 5

I ended up getting a free upgrade

[wintry forge]

o/

[pale pawn]

warrantied a laptop with i5,1050ti, 8 gb ram and lenovo replaced with i7, 1660ti, 16gb ram and half tb ssd bc the previous laptop ran out in inventory

[tame topaz]

Lucky bastard

If only the thing had the 1660ti as well

but hey, ain't complainin

ryzen 7

[weak lintel]

Grizzly Kryonaut or Noctua Nt-H1?

I want to repaste my CPU and GPU

[hexed citrus]

kryonaut

[brazen agate]

does al make devices burn up

everytime i play al on my com or phone it just gets really hot

[hexed citrus]

probably because they're old

AL requires a lot of resources

[shut sapphire]

@brazen agate when u play does it look like this

[brazen agate]

ahaha no

[subtle hawk]

get mx4, way cheaper, good enough

[weak lintel]

good suggestion, but I was using MX4 and its not effective as NT-H1

probably gonna restock for kryonaut or hunt for H2

[subtle hawk]

If you used too little that obvious, but mx4 is all you need if you don't oc

[weak lintel]

all my PC is not overclocked, but boosted maybe around 10-15%

but still, when I have enough money to get better paste. obv go better paste

the effectiveness is really shown up for me cuz I dont use AC and using stock cooler. Also daily Illustrator, photoshop and blender 3d atleast 10 hrs a day

[gloomy tinsel]

thx indihome. Probaby the most shit provider in the country

provider changed the IP

i tried to recconect. but IP isn't found

yea idk whats wrong with indihome doing that thing

[restive warren]

we making smart cameras now

[flint bobcat]

imagine having huawei

[gloomy tinsel]

Onething is funny about that design
it is like Big fake camera with small camera inside

[quartz atlas]

and thats where you are wrong

p50 series is debuting the 1 inch imx800 sony sensor

[odd juniper]

@hexed citrus are u the tech simp

[hexed citrus]

idk am I?

[odd juniper]

wellll

Do u know what thermalpads have the best conductivity for vram chips

u probably know for what reason.. (gigabyte thermalpads suck)

[vast sand]

arent thermalpads generally the same

why would u need thermalpads for vrams anyways

its only an issue on the 3090s

[odd juniper]

ping

i would never say this to you

but

no i wont

I'll just say ur domb

gigabyte cards are notorious for having bad thermalpads. they can leak oil too @vast sand

Which is why i want to buy decent thermalpads. since 3080 vrams tend to get hot

[plain mica]

i've never had a problem with EVGA cards personally, and i just get them stock and dont OC

[hexed citrus]

just buy some thermal pads from a reputable manufacturer

they all are more or less the same

besides RAM chips operate best when they're warm

[odd juniper]

yeah but I'd rather not have them running at 100c+

thanks btw

[hexed citrus]

if they're running at that temp

check ur thermal paste

and heatsink

that means that the heat from the GPU core can't go into the heatsink to dissipate so it seeps into the components directly in line and the PCB itself

[odd juniper]

I don't have it yet. But I've read its a common problem with the gigabyte vision oc since they cheaped out on the thermalpads

[vast sand]

gigabyte

[vagrant holly]

wait, about gigabyte thermal pads, are you referring to the thermal pads used on the vram?

because that's normal

every card uses thermal pads for vram

the gpu always has paste

[vast sand]

no he meant that

the stock thermal pads for the vrams are garbage

[vagrant holly]

oh

well ye

but they do the job

as long as you don't do like, overclocking

you're fine

they may be cutting costs but they only cut costs as long as they stick to some safety range

[vast sand]

Arctic thermalpads work fine

[hexed citrus]

even with overclocking it will be fine

VRAM does not get hot

the GPU core does

[vagrant holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFaJZq13tr8

unless you're dell

[vast sand]

[odd juniper]

i'd rather not having them leak oil though

smile

I'm very cautious when it comes to shit like that

[vagrant holly]

what oil

[odd juniper]

exactly

[vagrant holly]

are you doing liquid cooling?

[odd juniper]

rex

the oil

comes from the shitty thermalpads

i dont have that gpu yet

but

people that have it

[vagrant holly]

i never had that happen to me

[severe falcon]

the oil for the engine duh

[odd juniper]

say its a problem with that card

[vagrant holly]

wtf are you doing

[odd juniper]

I DONT HAVE THE CARD YET BISH

[vagrant holly]

how does that even happen

[odd juniper]

IM DOING NOTHING

[vagrant holly]

then you're literally worried about something that never happens

[odd juniper]

It happens cuz the thermalpads are shit and are probably leaking cuz they're not made to sustain high temps

[odd juniper]

google gigabyte rtx 3080 vision thermalpads

[plain mica]

since when is there oil in my PC?

[hexed citrus]

it's not oil

it's grease

[odd juniper]

well still

who wants that leaking out of their card

[plain mica]

i ran my 1080 ti to the ground and it was fine

same with the 780 ti and the 560 ti before it

[odd juniper]

rtx vrams tend to get hotter

[vast sand]

isnt 100+ degs normal tho

for the 3000 series

[plain mica]

no idea, let me turn on a crypto miner and get some stats

[severe falcon]

next week my comp gets delivered and then i can actually play games

[vagrant holly]

nah 30 series is stupidly cool despite the performance increase

[vast sand]

no for the

vrams

[vagrant holly]

it's one of the major points that stuck out

oh idk about the vrams ye

the gpu is really cool

[vast sand]

the 3090 hits 100+ easily

especially the rear ones

my friend has a 3070 and no issue so far

I saw a guy in my zoom class having a 3090

when he streamed his desktop for a project

might ask him how are his vrams

[odd juniper]

gpu normally is cool but the vrams get hotter then the gpu itself lel

[plain mica]

memory says 104 C

[vast sand]

good thermal pads wont do much tho

if you really want to bring down the temps

go for a waterblocck

especially for a 3090

3080s are generally fine

[hexed citrus]

I have a 3090

[plain mica]

im going to leave my GPU alone, and if it breaks, use EVGA support

[hexed citrus]

that thing is chill

[vast sand]

yeah

[plain mica]

EVGA has great support, which is why i keep buying from them

[hexed citrus]

then again I took it apart and replaced the thermal paste on it

[vast sand]

dont they average like

74 degs under full load

or smth

either way its still way better than laptops

[vagrant holly]

bro that shit looks like mozzarella

[hexed citrus]

don't eat it

[vast sand]

i changed my laptop thermal paste

and its still garbage with temps

tried undervolting

reduced by 3-4 degs

must be the 1440p screen

[hexed citrus]

have you thought that it may have a poor thermal solution in the first place

[vast sand]

yes

[hexed citrus]

also tesla ain't got shit on this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/547073962564255754/850061914070319164/2snenu.mp4

[severe falcon]

laptop thermal paste
your laptop has thermal paste?

[vast sand]

[severe falcon]

mine just had a bit of metal leading to the fan

[odd juniper]

yikes

[vagrant holly]

that looks sick

[odd juniper]

I should check my old laptop how hot that runs

[vast sand]

my laptop idles at 61 degs

[odd juniper]

haven t booted it for 2 years

but has a 980m

[vast sand]

but thats on the 1440p screen

usually in school

in runs at like

56

idle

[odd juniper]

is ur screen a lcd?

[vast sand]

what

the 1440p?

[odd juniper]

yyeah i said it

[vast sand]

no

IPS

[odd juniper]

bruh

thats not

what i meant

[vast sand]

what

[severe falcon]

bruh my laptop had a 1366x768 screen and used to hit 90C playing terraria

[vagrant holly]

that thing is like "what if ducati made an electric"

[odd juniper]

u have lcd led and something else and then u have the panel types like tn va and ips

[vast sand]

wot

[odd juniper]

for example

[vast sand]

oh

[hexed citrus]

that bike has a full array of sensors in the front and back

[vast sand]

its lcd no shit

[hexed citrus]

as well as gyros to keep it upright

[odd juniper]

yeah no shit it gets hot

[vast sand]

no i mean

[vagrant holly]

so sick

[vast sand]

not the screen

but my laptop

[odd juniper]

yes

thats a screen

you pepega

[vast sand]

what

no

[odd juniper]

are you saying

your laptop

[vast sand]

at home i use my laptop with an external monitor

[odd juniper]

is a lcd

[vast sand]

and the external monitor is

1440p

[odd juniper]

ok and ur saying

the external monitor

is causing your laptop to heat up

[vast sand]

because 1440p

[odd juniper]

that

still doesn't make sense

[vast sand]

what doesnt

[odd juniper]

that it runs that hot

are u playing games on it

[vast sand]

no

[odd juniper]

so it runs

hot

at idle

[vast sand]

no

[odd juniper]

cuz you have the monitor connected

[vast sand]

what

[odd juniper]

^

[vast sand]

yeah

[odd juniper]

^

[vast sand]

it idles at 61degs

because of the 1440p screen

[odd juniper]

doesn't really make sense

[vast sand]

what does

nt*

[odd juniper]

as long as it doesn't have graphical intense

tasks to do

it won't heat up the gpu? which im guessing ur laptop has

[vast sand]

idk man my laptop is weird

i get better fps at 1440p on same games

than 1080p

[odd juniper]

with the same graphical settings?

[vast sand]

[odd juniper]

ping you're

pretty sus

[vast sand]

dont ask me how

[odd juniper]

ngl

I would like to check out your laptop

and help you

[vast sand]

[hexed citrus]

pretty sus

[odd juniper]

cuz idk wtf you're doing

[hexed citrus]

A M O G U S

[vast sand]

[odd juniper]

time to vote ping of the ship

also

did you add

new thermalpaste on it?

or did you never replace it?

that might help heat it up too

if its nice and crusty u know

[hexed citrus]

actual technology

[odd juniper]

looks like some kind of mini mobo? with a arm chip?

[hexed citrus]

yes

[odd juniper]

u have to solder it on don't you?

[hexed citrus]

yes

[odd juniper]

[hexed citrus]

well kind of

not in the traditional sense

[odd juniper]

yeah

i understand

btw ~~I don't know anything about arm chips but I didn't recognize the mobo and it looked like a mobile chip ~~

[severe falcon]

@hexed citrus you already made a thanos PC, when are you making an amogus PC?

[odd juniper]

I need a cheap

azur lane pc

[severe falcon]

stickers?

[odd juniper]

and with that i mean

[hexed citrus]

it's called your phone

[odd juniper]

well

u see

my phone

has a

845 soc

so

if i run it longer then 30 minutes

it'll be hotter then 60c

[hexed citrus]

watercool it

[odd juniper]

i'd rather have something portable and mini that i can connect

[odd juniper]

it has

watercooling

technically

[severe falcon]

i dont even know how to find what my phone has

[hexed citrus]

a heat pipe isn't water cooling

[odd juniper]

it has a heatpipe with a bit of liquid in it

[severe falcon]

its just ancient

[hexed citrus]

that isn't water

[odd juniper]

"watercooled"

well

fine

smh

[hexed citrus]

put a actual copper block on it

with a radiator pump and tubing

[odd juniper]

breh

i need to use it besides azur lane smh

its my workphone too

[severe falcon]

nah you know how those sandblasting chambers have the gloves so you can work on parts without the sand getting out? do that but with a freezer and play your phone in it

[odd juniper]

I need my phone 😔

its actually pretty old ish

from 2018

might get a new one

maybe the axon 10 pro

[severe falcon]

oldish
2018

bruh i have a note 5

[odd juniper]

[quartz atlas]

Late but gigabyte sucks ass anyway

[vagrant holly]

untrue

my 950 served me well

and it was still alive and kicking and screaming when i upgraded to 2080

[vast sand]

gigaybyte

their mobos decent tho

[quartz atlas]

I'm still using a msi 980m

I would take Evga, msi, and Asus before I considered a gigabyte

[odd juniper]

[odd juniper]

Trueeee but i didnt have much choice between other brands

Gigabyte and asrock i would normally avoid

Especially asrock

Its cheap but the quality is non existent

[quartz atlas]

ye, cant really skim on price for quality pc components

[gloomy tinsel]

Nzxt motherboards

[flint bobcat]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/nrcoe1/a_giant_solar_sailboat_is_set_to_sweep_up_plastic/?%24deep_link=true&correlation_id=15507897-da56-4f3b-9256-e16432543ec9&post_fullname=t3_nrcoe1&post_index=1&ref=email_digest&ref_campaign=email_digest&ref_source=email&utm_content=post_title&%243p=e_as&_branch_match_id=919241336202785862

[odd juniper]

@subtle hawk

[subtle hawk]

im still thinkin

ill prob not buy anything until after august

[odd juniper]

Naruhodo

[subtle hawk]

maybe ill wait to 4080 launch

[plain mica]

it will probably be ~2 yrs until the 4000 series launches, maybe more because of chip shortages.
i know at least 1 friend who works in embedded dev is constantly having to find alternatives to their required chips still

[subtle hawk]

i heard nvidea say maybe 2022

and 2024 for a different one but of the same series

i blame crypto fuckers

[plain mica]

[subtle hawk]

elon should bash it more on twitter so the price drops

[plain mica]

nvidia will not release a 4000 series next year

[subtle hawk]

crypto has fucked graphic cards for like the past 5 years

[plain mica]

they have no need to

they are selling marked up cards right now, and they can drag their feet until AMD releases their cards

Elon was bashing BTC which doesn't use GPUs

[subtle hawk]

eth fucked cards

[plain mica]

the chip shortage is not just because of crypto miners, it's more from the pandemic if anything

[subtle hawk]

yeah but i mean like

theres a base price now thats set by coin miners

to hit their profit margins

like any good performance to price card just gets screwed

i mean apparently theyre making scalping illegal here soon

but i hope it doesnt mean they buy cards here and export them to scalp

ampere next and ampere next next are 2022 and 2024 whatever the hell that means

[hexed citrus]

lmao thinking nvidia won't innovate because they are selling them well rn

this ain't intel

[plain mica]

https://www.game-debate.com/news/25403/rumour-nvidia-sitting-on-stockpile-of-1-million-next-gen-graphics-cards

the rumor was they did that during 2018

[subtle hawk]

damn nvidia shut down china to cause a shortage u heard it here first

[odd juniper]

@subtle hawk

this fuck is this

my 1080 didnt have that

[subtle hawk]

no idea

[hexed citrus]

ah yes sitting on cards like that will bring them profit

I sure do love me some ridiculous conspiracy theories

@odd juniper it's basically a technology built by nvidia that works to lower the input to display latency as much as possible

[odd juniper]

btw

[hexed citrus]

that is some shit fan curve

[odd juniper]

thats not a fancurve

[hexed citrus]

or poor case ventilation

[odd juniper]

those are the temps of the vram

bruh

my ventilation cant be better

its the new rtx card

u know

[hexed citrus]

I have a 3090 and while vram does get really warm

[odd juniper]

where i told u the thermalpads where shit

[hexed citrus]

never to 90 degrees

[odd juniper]

because

gigabyte cheaped out on the pads

just have to buy new ones and replace it

[hexed citrus]

anyway that vram can handle it

[odd juniper]

yeah

till 110c

[hexed citrus]

so not like it's gonna die or smth

[odd juniper]

then it'll throttle

nah but uh how do you say it

i get ocd if my shit doesn't run perfect u know

so if it has temps like that

[hexed citrus]

just watercool it then

[odd juniper]

i want to fix that asap

[hexed citrus]

4Head

[odd juniper]

nty

most people like watercooling

im a exception

[hexed citrus]

well then the consequences are on u

as long as it doesn't hit 100+

u good

[odd juniper]

btw i havent replaced the thermalpads yet

it'll prob fix the issue

since it does have a big block

its as big as my previous 1080

which had a very big cooler

the hall of fame card was 👌

now have to figure out what the best oc for my 6950x was

@hexed citrus see everything is fine

just the memory

[severe falcon]

tf are you doing to make your card so hot

[odd juniper]

its that hot by default. rtx 3080s are notorious for having hot vram. I knew this was gonna happen when i bought the card. just gonna replace the thermalpads

[severe falcon]

i meant the entire card

[odd juniper]

wdym

[severe falcon]

was that in the middle of a game?

[odd juniper]

70c isnt hot

yeah i had a game running

lol

[severe falcon]

ok

i was about to say

[odd juniper]

if it was that hot at idle it would've had problems

[severe falcon]

my 950 has to be playing a pretty new game to even hit 60 C

[odd juniper]

[odd juniper]

thats because its kind of a limited card

same reason why a gt 1030 doesnt need a cooler

[gloomy tinsel]

GT1030 only need heat fins

[quartz atlas]

They should be coming next year honestly if nothing go wrong. Nvidia has already pre-booked 7nm capacity at tsmc and Samsung quite a while ago.

[vagrant holly]

@severe falcon ye contrary to what you would think, less powerful graphics cards don't actually get that hot even on full load

[severe falcon]

if it did, i might actually get some decent frames

[vagrant holly]

that's not how it works

[severe falcon]

"just work harder"

[vagrant holly]

it IS working as hard as it can with its highest possible clock speed, it's just that, even at it's highest workload, it doesn't generate that much heat

[severe falcon]

i know

[gloomy tinsel]

its membrane tho

[shut sapphire]

??@gloomy tinsel

not mech

[gloomy tinsel]

not mech

you won't get mech at that price

[remote remnant]

looks like the one i got last year

cheap as fuck

the prints on the keys are gone by now

[odd juniper]

@sand pebble

[sand pebble]

i see chair

but nais

[odd juniper]

Chair?

@sand pebble what chair

[sand pebble]

in the reflection

[odd juniper]

Thats

Not a chair?

[sand pebble]

[odd juniper]

Idk what ur seeing

Smoke less shrooms yuko

[sand pebble]

who?

[odd juniper]

Yukobaguettenido

[sand pebble]

[odd juniper]

Oh

I can make something nice with thst emotr i remember now

[odd juniper]

@sand pebble

[sand pebble]

[odd juniper]

i grabbed my old laptop

with windows 1803 on it

how big is the chance that update will fail

[sand pebble]

poor old laptop

[odd juniper]

it hasnt been turned on for like

2 years?

it did turn on though when i put the adapter in it

[sand pebble]

[odd juniper]

butttt ive bad experiences with windows

updating older versions

[sand pebble]

[odd juniper]

hopefully it'll be fine

wanna put a emu on it and let it run AL

[sand pebble]

eehhh is prolly fineeeeee

[odd juniper]

[odd juniper]

@sand pebble bluescreen

[sand pebble]

smh

poor old laptop

[odd juniper]

i prob need to install windows from scratch

but i forgot the bios password of the previous owner

which means ive to take the laptop apart and remove the bios chip

i mean the cmos battery

[hexed citrus]

like you would be able to

[odd juniper]

what

[hexed citrus]

if it's a modern-ish laptop

that is soldered on

[odd juniper]

apparently its removable on the msi one

[hexed citrus]

this is how a bios chip looks on a laptop

[odd juniper]

oh that yeah

but

[hexed citrus]

for me it's a piece of cake to swap out and reprogram but not for the majority of ppl

[odd juniper]

it should reset the bios setting to default

if i remove the cmos

[hexed citrus]

yes it will

[odd juniper]

yes thats what i needed

[hexed citrus]

because it needs power applied constantly to keep data

[odd juniper]

[hexed citrus]

else it loses the current state

[odd juniper]

I wonder if the cmos battery is still uh "working" i havent tried going in the bios yet but

the laptop has not used power

for like 2 years

[odd juniper]

nvm it actually finished the update don't have to reset the bios after all @sand pebble

[sand pebble]

see just ask yama

he knows more than me

by a lot

[odd juniper]

wdym ask

[sand pebble]

the thing you asked me last time

[odd juniper]

by asking if the update will go well?

even yama knows that'll be a 50/50 with windows

I wanted a answer from you bread

[sand pebble]

nah

the question last time you asked

[odd juniper]

:laes:

[sand pebble]

i don't remember

smh

[odd juniper]

what question?

[sand pebble]

idk

go scroll off topic

anyway

[odd juniper]

oh

that vram one

[sand pebble]

i want to sleep

[odd juniper]

NO

You'll be stuck here

[sand pebble]

no you

[odd juniper]

sad

[hexed citrus]

windows updates always went ok for me

only time they didn't it was when I was in beta

a.k.a windows insiders

[odd juniper]

They sometimes caused issues for me (mostly cuz of outdated drivers)

Glad they still havent fixed the issue of windows explorer crashing sometimes.

[hexed citrus]

that's those shitty laptop software bundles that they have on all retail laptops

[subtle hawk]

bro never buy a 5400 rpm harddrive

these things make me go nuts that they write so slow

and it shuts down my entire pc writing to some random drive that nothing is even on

if u have more than like $50 buy an ssd

it aint worth the extra like 2TB of space

wth even is this shit

[pale pawn]

bruh what kind of hdd did you buy

mine can do 100mbs

[subtle hawk]

its a seagate 4TB 5400rpm

and i dont even know whats wrong with it

if im writing shit to it and the drive cant handle it

it just blows up and makes everything on my entire pc lag

i cant even watch videos during it

and my cpu is at like 20%

[shut sapphire]

oof

[remote remnant]

damn

my skyhawk 1tb can do better

something is definitely wrong with ur hdd

[hexed citrus]

that sounds like a pc problem than a drive problem

and looking at that response time it's clearly something wrong

even SMR drives don't go that high

[odd juniper]

@subtle hawk Defective drives tend to kill your pc too if the pc tries to access it. Try unplugging the drive and see if your pc works fine on the others. Or try plugging it into another sataport its possible that it might be defective instead of the drive. (I had that with my x99a mobo)

[hexed citrus]

for typical people maybe

I usually access the drive firmware and issue direct commands to see how quick it reacts

[subtle hawk]

im not sure if its defective cos it shows up fine on stuff like crystaldisk

it prob is a pc problem since most parts in my pc apart from drives are 6 years old now

[hexed citrus]

if it tries to use the disk as a cache

then yeah it would hang the fuck out of the pc

especially if it's a SMR drive

[severe falcon]

My wife has arrived

[hexed citrus]

when u simp for a piece of silicon

[severe falcon]

i meant the whole thing, not just the card

[subtle hawk]

she cute

[odd juniper]

Why do you have the radiator in front of the front intake? Where is the rtx getting cool air from?

[severe falcon]

the cpu doesnt get that hot

[odd juniper]

Still

Or didnt the case support

On the top

[severe falcon]

well i ordered this prebuilt

and top only supports 240mm

[odd juniper]

Welp

[severe falcon]

but if its actually a problem, i can just get the upgrade to this case

which has 6 intake fans at the front

[odd juniper]

Uh

But radiator normally shouldnt be in front though

Except if the entire system.is watercooled ig

[severe falcon]

itll be fine

[odd juniper]

[hexed citrus]

wdym the radiator shouldn't be in the front

where else would u put it

at the top you need a ton of head pressure to raise it and circulate it through the radiator

not to mention

pain in the ass to bleed air from

[subtle hawk]

my radiator is at the top too pretty sure it said to in the case instructions and on the water cooler instructions itself and it works pretty well since its pretty much an open top grill

apart from now when it sits idle at 40-50 cos i didnt change the paste in 6 years

[hexed citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdgULBpRoXk

[severe falcon]

so i may need a lil help, the asus mobo utility thing is saying i dont have an AIO pump

but i do

[hexed citrus]

did you plug it into the AIO header?

because the only thing it does is power the pump

control is handled via that USB cable

[severe falcon]

hmmm

then maybe its saying its the cpu fan?

what is the typical rpm of a pump?

[hexed citrus]

a pump is not controlled with PWM

[severe falcon]

ok so i got this from cyberpower, installed asus' utility thing, and it does have a slot for AIO pump and a readout in rpm

its just that the readout is 0

[odd juniper]

crazy how my ram doesn't run with xmp on but when i set the timings manually with around the same voltage it does work

[severe falcon]

im just trying to see if maybe one of the others is the actual thing

[odd juniper]

installing bloatware

[severe falcon]

it also controls the lighting

so ye

[odd juniper]

you use

the lighting

though

[severe falcon]

yeah

its got rgb and im ordering more

[odd juniper]

I'll have u know it gets boring very fast

darkness is your friend

[severe falcon]

anyway after i figure out the win10 activation problem, then ill probably rewire the fans just to see how they messed up

[odd juniper]

my ram has rainbow rgb and im questioning my choices

[odd juniper]

just activate it?

[severe falcon]

who tf uses rainbow as their setting

[odd juniper]

u have a new mobo?

[severe falcon]

no its a complete computer

[odd juniper]

thats the default setting

i didnt set anything

since the rgb settings of gskill didnt work properly 2 years ago

i dont know if they fixed their software yet

[severe falcon]

preloaded digital product key which is supposed to activate on its own

[odd juniper]

so it was a oem windows?

preinstalled on the drive?

[severe falcon]

and it just runs into an error, then the troubleshooter runs into an error

ye

[odd juniper]

uh

which windows version

are u running

home or pro?

[severe falcon]

home

[odd juniper]

what if the key is for pro?

[severe falcon]

then thats cyberpowers fault

and they gonna fix it

[odd juniper]

open cmd

type this

slmgr /dlv

check the top what the key says

[severe falcon]

the name?

[odd juniper]

yeah

this

[severe falcon]

ah

[odd juniper]

does it say home?

[severe falcon]

welp looks like i gotta cuss out whoever lets me off hold

[odd juniper]

if it says professional you've the wrong key. but professional is way better

[severe falcon]

cuz it says Core edition

[odd juniper]

[merry basin]

[odd juniper]

wtf

core?

[severe falcon]

which isnt even an option on cyberpower

[odd juniper]

windows core

[severe falcon]

yeah

[odd juniper]

doesnt run with gui

[severe falcon]

well it is

[odd juniper]

show me a ss

of the name

i want to see it fully

[odd juniper]

time to contact customer support lol

[severe falcon]

oh ive been on hold with cyberpower for 22 mins

[odd juniper]

i remember when i had to configure a msi laptop

and it had pro installed but

a windows home key

[severe falcon]

honestly i think using my pirated win7 and then upgrading to win10 would work better than getting the official product

[odd juniper]

or just

buy a windows 10 pro key

for like 10 bucks

[merry basin]

Lmao fires Win7 key works tho

[odd juniper]

true

but he says he pirated win7 so its not a official key?

[severe falcon]

its a crack

i mean it does fully activate it

[merry basin]

Still should give and allow the upgrade to 10 cause that’s not a very well done system

[odd juniper]

yeah i know what you mean.

[severe falcon]

its not one of those things where they set the trial to last 40 years

[odd juniper]

buying a key for 10 bucks though

[severe falcon]

also i know for a fact that you can upgrade with that, cuz my friends comp upgraded just fine lol

[odd juniper]

or get the key you should've gotten from cyberpower

[odd juniper]

but u need the same drive

[severe falcon]

what do you mean

[odd juniper]

did you move the drive

with windows 7 on it

[severe falcon]

on his no

[odd juniper]

not sure how u want to upgrade then

cuz copying the key prob wont work

[severe falcon]

i meant it went from win7 to win10 fully activated

even though it wasnt an official key

[odd juniper]

maybe because it was already on that drive

[severe falcon]

@hexed citrus so how bad is it if they connected the AIO pump to the CPU fan port?

[odd juniper]

i see cyberpower is a high end brand

[severe falcon]

indeed

[odd juniper]

It probably would've been faster if u made it urself. and it would've been better 👍

[severe falcon]

no because you cant get 3080s

[odd juniper]

but i got one last week

2nd hand though

[severe falcon]

yeah exactly

[odd juniper]

also

the 3080tis are out

u want one?

[severe falcon]

nah

[severe falcon]

bruh im going from a 950 to a 3080

[odd juniper]

[severe falcon]

i already have too much graphics

the cpu jump is even worse

[odd juniper]

wha

what cpu u got

[severe falcon]

ryzen 9 5900X

12 core/24 thread

[odd juniper]

12 cores

you'll never use

[severe falcon]

my old one is a vishera FX6300 6 core/6 thread

[odd juniper]

vishera?

u mean amd

[severe falcon]

yes

thats what they were called

[odd juniper]

thats one old disgusting cpu

[severe falcon]

ye

[odd juniper]

[severe falcon]

8 years old

[odd juniper]

"6 cores"

[severe falcon]

still kicking

[odd juniper]

6 shitty cores

btw what rtx 3080 u got?

what brand

[severe falcon]

its supposed to be just Nvidia

[odd juniper]

so

a founders edition card

sus

[severe falcon]

but it has 3 fans tho

which i dont think the founders does

[odd juniper]

it doesnt

founders has 2

ss?

u have it already right?

[severe falcon]

ye

but its covered by the mobo covers

or that might just be a custom cooler

is there a way to check?

like with cmd

oh also customer support dude said that it didnt actually grab the product key from the mobo

the core one is their test one

[severe falcon]

ok i now have an activated copy of win10 home

now i have to deal with the wiring oh boy

[severe falcon]

@hexed citrus does there have tp be a fan connected to the cpu fan port to get it to run? Cuz its yelling at me and going to bios

ok i think its all working now

[odd juniper]

I dont think cyberpower adds effort by putting a custom cooler on it. didn't they just get a cheap oem one?