#technology | Azur Lane Official | Page 63

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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5700XT

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but the performance chart for it is all over the place

tidal grove Aug 12, 2019, 3:08 PM

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yeahh

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damn

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i can buy a bit stronger card than

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2060 super

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but 2060 super is so cheap

quartz atlas Aug 12, 2019, 3:45 PM

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That sweet sweet ray tracing

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I would hold a few days for a 2070 super if I were to buy one now

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Or try to snag one online

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Or just say fuck it and buy a 2080ti AkachanSmug

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But if I'm not in a rush or planning to upgrade any time soon, I'll be waiting for the 30xx series next year.

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My bets are on a much larger performance increase for ray-tracing and fps/dollar

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More so of the former over the latter

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 3:49 PM

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@quartz atlas I'm waiting for the next gen quadros and teslas

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OwariWOKE

quartz atlas Aug 12, 2019, 3:49 PM

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OwariWOKE

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Them 5-figure cards that I can't afford

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 3:50 PM

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they're just yes like this

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I bought 2060 few weeks before super is announced LaffeyDrink

tidal grove Aug 12, 2019, 9:12 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190812_170723.jpg

quartz atlas Aug 12, 2019, 9:15 PM

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i see a amd gpu HoodDisgust

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 9:42 PM

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he didn't want to wait

flint bobcat Aug 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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$100

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📎 unknown.png

stone wave Aug 12, 2019, 11:06 PM

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scam

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newegg, amazon, walmart, ebay are all market places so they can have third party sellers

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They won't end up with your CC info but they'll have your name and billing address whatever they use that for.

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Then Newegg or whoever closes the account and refunds you.

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Oh wait that's box only

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lmao wtf

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that's just trying to get people who don't check what they're buying, report that shit and newegg would delete the listing

tidal grove Aug 12, 2019, 11:10 PM

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I cant get the screw out

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For the gpu slot

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PepeHands

stone wave Aug 12, 2019, 11:14 PM

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If it's spinning freely, push the back of the screw with something as you unscrew it.

tidal grove Aug 12, 2019, 11:23 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190812_192316.jpg

flint bobcat Aug 12, 2019, 11:23 PM

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wait

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is that a micro mobo

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 11:25 PM

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@tidal grove ANGERY

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TURBO ANGERY

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U HAVE THE TOP PCIe SLOT

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THAT'S 16X

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

tidal grove Aug 12, 2019, 11:28 PM

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I know

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I cant get the top slot out

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The screw just wont come out

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I tried for half an hour

subtle hawk Aug 12, 2019, 11:31 PM

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when in doubt

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dremel

tidal grove Aug 12, 2019, 11:35 PM

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It's not a micro mobo

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It's just that mid tower makes it look small

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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can a stock wraith cooler handle an OC'd 3900x

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@subtle hawk

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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stock yes

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OC

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not a chance

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 12:07 AM

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LUL

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guess ill buy water cooling then

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 12:07 AM

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whale

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or a giant air cooler

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 12:07 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

stone wave Aug 13, 2019, 12:12 AM

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just get a dual tower dual fan type of deal

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https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-heatpipe-NF-A15-140mm/dp/B00L7UZMAK/

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you gotta watch out for ram clearance for high profile ram though

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 12:16 AM

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just blow some air on it

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with your mouth

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Pepega 🌬

stone wave Aug 13, 2019, 12:17 AM

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My old CPU cooler was designed to fit.
https://i.imgur.com/miiKGfr.jpg

Imgur

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 12:17 AM

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i would pay the extra $10 to get the corsair water cooling system

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oh wait

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extra 30

stone wave Aug 13, 2019, 12:18 AM

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get the h150i pro i guess

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triple 120

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if you really want to go balls to the walls you can hit up EK and build an open loop

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but you on your own with that route cause I don't touch that stuff

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Do i need to plug in sata to motherboard

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If i got those thin chip thingies

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That goes right on the motherboard?

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My case has sata coming out, which is connected to the nzxt power hub

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 3:48 AM

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m.2?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 3:49 AM

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@tidal grove M.2? Then no it either directly uses a PCIe or SATA connection if plugged in, no cable required.

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That said it also means that SATA port 0 will be occupied (in the case of M.2 SATA) if you intend to plug like a hard drive so keep that in mind

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What kind of SSD do you have anyway?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:12 AM

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i bought the https://www.amazon.com/Inland-Premium-M-2-2280-Internal/dp/B07RCM6DXK

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@tame topaz

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well now my pc boots up and all

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but nothing shows up on screen

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FeelsBadMan

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idk what's wrong with it

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:13 AM

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then yeah, you only need the card in the m.2 slot

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:19 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190813_001939.jpg

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there's 8 / 6

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but the plug is 6 + 2 / 6+2

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unicornfused

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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@tidal grove For the 6 pin just leave the 2 extra pins hanging there

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for the 8 pin, plug it all in

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:24 AM

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#technology is just digital IT tech support, change my mind

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:27 AM

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@tame topaz

📎 JPEG_20190813_002648.jpg

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Like this?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Yep

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Idk whats wrong with it tho

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:28 AM

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?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:28 AM

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It's most likely cpu

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Since my pc boots up

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But nothing shows up on screen

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:31 AM

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you plugged everything in right?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:32 AM

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yeah

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gonna take out the psu and see again

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:37 AM

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does the pc produce any sounds

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any error messages?

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or just boot up, and shut off

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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no sound

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no error message since no display at all

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and it doesn't shut off

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:39 AM

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hm

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try using a different hdmi cable maybe

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or check your debug LED on your mobo

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:43 AM

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📎 JPEG_20190813_004320.jpg

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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waw

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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it's a mess

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lmao

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im a mess rn

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idk what's wrong

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im gonna have to take it apart

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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mutsukiVeryStare

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why

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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cus no display

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MutsukiHyperStare

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:45 AM

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oh yeah

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are you plugging the hdmi cable into the card?

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or the mobo

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:45 AM

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mobo, and im using display port

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:45 AM

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And I suppose he got the front panel connectors in too because he can turn it on

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And ay no plug it into your card

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not the mobo

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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uhh okay

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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ye

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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no difference

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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GWshizuPlsRember

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Change the source on the monitor

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Yeah i think it's my monitor lmao

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It was working fine but now it wont work on my old pc

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 AM

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oof

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:20 AM

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The night doesnt end

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peepoSad

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:28 AM

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I feel like MP3 players are gonna be back in vogue real soon once every brand takes out the headphone jack

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 AM

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tbh, id use an mp3 player just for music

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:55 AM

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So, the screen turned on

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And it says it needs a bootable device and whatnot

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Which means i just need to install windows 10 right?

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monkaShake

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Yep

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You're clear

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Finally

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:21 AM

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yep

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it doesn't have anything to boot right now

violet nexus Aug 13, 2019, 8:06 AM

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📎 IMG_20190813_160502.jpg

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SANGFOR

stable sonnet Aug 13, 2019, 8:08 AM

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👀

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Nvm it still has issues with display

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Idk why peeposad

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It was fine yesterday

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:36 PM

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@tidal grove specifics?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Oh i figured it out

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It's when i put in my 2nd ram stick

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MutsukiCurse

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Did i put it on the wrong slot

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:37 PM

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lemme see?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:37 PM

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I just took it out, but the 2nd one was at fourth slot

📎 JPEG_20190813_123725.jpg

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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That's the correct config

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190813_123826.jpg

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Whats the difference

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Between usb and uefi

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:38 PM

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USB is for older systems

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If you don't have CSM enabled it'll spit out an error

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Choose UEFI

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Not surr what it is then

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Sure *

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For the ram

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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hmm

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I heard it click in as well

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MutsukiCurse

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On both sides

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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then yeah it seems fine

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what kind of error do you see on the screen tho?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:41 PM

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The display doesnt come up at all

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With the 2nd ram in

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Im installing windows now with 2nd ram out

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:42 PM

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huh

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sounds like a bad ram

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 4:42 PM

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yeah sounds like abd ram

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 4:43 PM

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After installing Windows try that second stick into the 1st stick's slot

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 4:43 PM

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sometimes it can still run with bad ram, like mine

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I'll try swapping

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📎 JPEG_20190813_125503.jpg

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I feel like this isnt okay

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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@tidal grove why isn't there CPU fan speed?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:07 PM

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cuz it looks like its not plugged in

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60 C on the bios is not good for the cpu

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but why is the SB also 60 C?

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 5:08 PM

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@tidal grove USB: will perform a legacy MBR boot while UEFI: is exactly what it's said

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:08 PM

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what's SB again?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:08 PM

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South Bridge i think

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but it has its own heatsinks

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 5:08 PM

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UEFI is more flexible and modern

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yeah

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did you accidentally plug CPU fan pin into a water pump header?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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so yeah @tidal grove turn that thing off and figure out why your CPU cooler isnt running

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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from earlier pics it was running iirc

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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oh yeah it is

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did you use thermal paste?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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hmm

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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or maybe theres a negative pressure in the case?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Yeah we haven't taken a close look at his fan config yet either

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~~or whether he has any at all~~

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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wait his SB also has a fan

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WHY IS IT 60 C

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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X 5 7 0

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maybe

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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maybe its that big chungus of a graphics card in the way

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Cpu fan is indeed running

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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No seems like 60 is the norm for X570

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Shit is just that hot

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I closed the case and started it up

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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no theres no way the processor hits 60 C on IDLE

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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It first showed that i have to pick a bootable device

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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chipset yes, CPU no

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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if it does you need watercooling

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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X570 chipsets are hot because of the PCIe 4.0

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Up to 15W TDP

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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ok so the chipset is fine

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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But when i restarted, my screen kept flashing

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MutsukiCurse

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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did you use thermal paste?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Fuck me

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Yeah

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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wtf is wrong with that CPU

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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what is it again?

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3600?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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3600x

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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ah yep

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Are you checking temps from BIOS

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because that's usually not an accurate number

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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That was from bios

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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again might as well just be bad RAM

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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The CPU is often clocked up while in BIOS

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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yeah but revy, usually the bios isnt 36 degrees C of inaccuracy

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Well fuck it still has problems with display

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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You won't get accurate idle temps

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because it's not idling

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It's just going full bore. Test it in the OS

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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take out the suspected bad RAM and check temps in OS

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(if you're done installing Windows)

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:17 PM

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If temps are still bad in the OS, then see if there is a BIOS update. The early BIOS versions for Ryzen 3000 series have idling bugs

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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I think it has to do with display port vs hdmi too? Idk

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It works well with hdmi

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But with display port, it always has an issur

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Issue

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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You can rule out one or another by testing a different monitor

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if available

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Other monitor has old vga

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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VGA to DP adapters exist

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Not on me currently obv

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Mm

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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hm

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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do you have a DVI to VGA?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Okay i ruled it out

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It's the ram

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One of the pair keeps being Pepega

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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yep bad RAM then

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Get it RMA'd

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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but doesnt ram usually come in a 2 pack?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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from the pics of the packagings

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it seems like a 2 pack

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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then he might be without ram for a bit

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Unless they let him RMA just one of them, yeah

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Do you have a previous PC with DDR4 memory?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Previous one was ddr3

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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oof

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Yeahh

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Fuck

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Just buy new RAM first and then RMA this set once the new RAM arrives

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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well as kthem if you can just RMA one

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or that

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this is why 4 sticks is better than 2

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:27 PM

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What're the full specs on this, 3600X 16 GB 5700XT?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Seems to be.

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Wonder if he has any fans tho.

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:28 PM

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he has a fan above the CPU

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I got about 3 fans besides cpu and gpu

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i think its pulling out

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can you make a small diagram and what direction the air goes?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Personally I would not have gone with the 3600X, due to these chips being very close to the limits of the silicon already

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I would've done 3600

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and let the cooling and XFR do their thing

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:29 PM

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or go with water cooling for CPU

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i saw a CPU go from 70 C to 18 C by switching to water cooling for the same task

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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woah 18?!

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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yeah literally colder than the AC in the house

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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I call shenanigans, that probably means the 70 C was also on a lousy cooler/other factors

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The best air coolers are actually just as good as, and quieter, than AIO water cooling loops

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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yeah tbh the cooler was probably loose, though it was a relatively good cooler

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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It turned on MutsukiCurse

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With both rams

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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it was the factory cooler for the FX-6300, which i have never seen mine get over 65

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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I honestly have no idea anymore

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But now it's telling me to reinstall windows

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Which is even more confusing

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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do you still have your install usb in?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I have an R5 1600, the 6300's successor

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Yeah should i try restarting with it out?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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yeah

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its boot order is currently to try that usb first

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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The 1600 has been a great chip, mine's kind of a dud overclocker though

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Mine is a 2200G

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Yah, you said. Did you get your board issue sorted out?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Only hampered by the mobo's lack of MOSFET heatsink.

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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or whatever it was that was killing your system

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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It's telling me to reboot and select proper boot device

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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wait i thought the R5 2600 was the FX-6300 reincarnated?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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So I sent it to my computer hardware store and a few days later I got it back with them reporting no issues?!

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Did i put my ssd wrong? MutsukiCurse

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Ive seen it in bios

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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R5 1600 is the FX-6300 reincarnated, R5 2600 is a notch above 1600

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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They apparently updated BIOS then reinstalled Windows 1 more time

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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and R5 3600 is a big jump above 2600

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Seems fine so far...

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Seeing no bluescreens yet...

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190813_133619.jpg

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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FX-6300: this is my normal form
R5 1600: this a super saiyan
R5 2600: this is what is known as a super saiyan who has ascended past a super saiyan, you can call it super saiyan 2
R5 3600: AND THIS
IS
TO GO
EVEN
FURTHER BEYOND

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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🤔

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Boot order seems fine

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also AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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IDK what is happening Meta

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Im guessing it didnt install windows correctly

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I guess not

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Thonkeng

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Time to reinstall

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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wait

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there might be another setting

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cuz my comp had a similar issue

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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My sb fan is spinning really slowly

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Only at 1200rpm

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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and there was another setting that disabled my HDD, even though it was listed to boot

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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@gloomy tinsel but yep everything seems fine so far. Somehow.

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might do like Prime95 overnight or something.

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Gonna try fan tuning

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I see ASRock BIOS, which board is this?

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X570 Phantom?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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X570 Steel Legend.

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The Steel Legend line sure looks quite nice.

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@tidal grove 1200 is fine

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Gotcha, so it's one step above the Phantom

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Idk why it has so much issue

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Last time i built a pc

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It was fine on first start

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FeelsRainMan

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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It's just you :3

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It thinks you are unworthy

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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yeah maybe you're just unlucky

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I had good results from my Ryzen box

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Granted, I also built my system after Ryzen 1000 had been out for a while

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Im not saying ryzen is bad but

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Im just rusty i guess

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Time to give back my cs degree

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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It's been established that the Ryzen 3000 launch BIOS is kinda jank, see if there's an update available for your board

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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yeah try to update it

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Would i be able to see that from bios

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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What version are you on?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Nope, you'd just compare the version in BIOS with whatever is on the website

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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It's on the first tab.

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Latest is 1.60.

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190813_134250.jpg

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Oh yeah, there have actually been a bunch of updates since the board launched

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Update it.

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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How o:

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Gross, you have 1.10, that one doesn't even have AGESA 1.0.0.3

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You probably have the idle bugs too

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Toss it into the same USB you install Windows from

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And extract

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 Steel Legend/index.asp#BIOS

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I'll instruct later once you did that

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Say what is your default RAM frequency again?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Dont u need ur windows usb to be clean?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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no need

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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You actually don't

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I put other stuff in there all the time.

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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They lied to me

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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But yeah, RAM frequency?

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Because the description of the latest update: Improve compatibility with DDR4-3000 or above memory.

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Wow lmao

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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That might be what's wrong here

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Most likely yeah

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Uh... so what should i do now

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Update BIOS, since you have the janky launch BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.1x

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Reinstall windows then bios ? Or bios and then windows

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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BIOS, then Windows

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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But yep download it from website, throw it into Windows USB and extract

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Kk

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Once you're done tell me so I can walk you through

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I have an Asrock board too

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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ASRock gang

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Sometimes ASSRock but most of the time not, thankfully

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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I got ASRock partly because there were very few ITX boards for AM4 at the time

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The other options were Biostar and Gigabyte

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And lol Biostar

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Remember when they released an mATX TR4 mobo?

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The madmen.

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Yep

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I actually got the Biostar first, it killed itself, then I got the ASRock

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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oof

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 5:49 PM

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there's currently a deal on this ssd

📎 unknown.png

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Seems good

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:49 PM

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That's pretty good

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Your thirst for power never ends eh Aria

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 5:50 PM

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WHALE

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sadly, thats only on 500GB

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:50 PM

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500 gigs is more than enough by boot drive standards

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 5:50 PM

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actually, the 1TB one isnt bad, $169

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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hm

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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ah, but i use my ssd for my whole system

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:52 PM

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huh alright

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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I have 490 GB worth of SSDs in my system

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

#

📎 2019-08-13_4.png

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so the usb looks like this now

flint bobcat Aug 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

#

ye

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Alright now plug the thing into the mobo and restart to BIOS

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Okay

#

Bios is up

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Go to the "Tools" tab and you should see Instant Flash

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

Ooo

#

Updating now

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Press enter

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Alrighty

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now pray that it won't black out on you

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:56 PM

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peepoSHAKE

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Say what is your fan config again?

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2 front 1 rear?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

ASRock boards like to take their sweet time with updating BIOS

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so be patient

#

It might come on a couple times and then reboot

#

and that is normal

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 5:59 PM

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One front

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One rear

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And one top

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I think i should buy two big ass fans for front

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Okay it's telling me to reinstall windows now

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Oh shoot that'd be negative pressure

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Or should i have restarted and go back to bios

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Remove the one on top and place it in front

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Positive pressure better

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Less chance of dust buildup

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:02 PM

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2 front, 1 rear is a common (and recommended) setup

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Or one big front, one small rear

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I'll just put another fan in front

#

I think i can take off a spare one

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Off my old pc

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Meanwhile I have 3 RGB fans (2 rear, 1 front) that is powered via Molex and a freaking EK Vardar that I got for dirt cheap

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:03 PM

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My setup is definitely worse than all of yours for cooling though

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Surely that'd be positive pressure right?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I have a single 120mm fan in front, and the exhaust fan in the rear is the PSU fan

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Because small ITX cube with top mounted PSU

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:04 PM

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oof

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Oh wait no, I forgot that I ziptied a second 120mm fan in-line with the first one

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because I'm ghetto

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:04 PM

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oof

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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It's so bad lmao

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Compressed air is so expensive

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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That's why I bought an electric dust blower

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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So I end up never cleaning it for a year now

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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It's more expensive upfront, but cheaper long term

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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And all of the case's intake vents are essentially all clogged up

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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🦊

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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well it's not so bad that air can't go in

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But I seriously need those cleaned out

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

📎 JPEG_20190813_140628.jpg

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MutsukiCurse ??

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I do give my dust filters a clean here and there tho

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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What did you do

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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of the what partition style?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Gpt

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Huh

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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GPT should be fine

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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did you accidenatally do MBR boot on installer disk

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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If you're GPT it should be fine

#

But yeah he probably did

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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inb4 BIOS is in legacy boot

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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you can't install MBR windows on GPT disk

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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When you reflashed BIOS, it probably reset everything

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Seems plausible

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I did this before LaffeyDrink

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Time to go back to bios

#

Lmao

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

oof

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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should have been UEFI

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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thought I would've had to guide you through DiskPart hell

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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I use Linux, can't relate

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

oof

#

I can never get used to Linux

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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We have nice GUI partitioning tools

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

it's always one extra step or more

#

for everything

#

Even fucking cd

#

why the fuck do you need to have correct capitlization anyway

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Really? I can't get used to Windows

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

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So what do i do in bios

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Meanwhile I can never get used to using the terminal

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

nothing

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Almost like the GUI is just there for fun

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:10 PM

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you have to press boot menu key when starting

#

I think it's F6

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:10 PM

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F11

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:10 PM

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and then select something along the line of UEFI: Windows Boot Manager

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

But yeah revy I'm always surprised by how you guys just get accustomed to Linux

#

and its fucking overreliance on the fucking terminal

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:11 PM

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What overreliance

#

I never actually have to go into the terminal

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:11 PM

#

📎 JPEG_20190813_141119.jpg

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I choose to go into the terminal

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but I never actually have to

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:11 PM

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UEFI: kingston

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:11 PM

#

hm

#

my first impression is that pretty much every Linux app is activated through the terminal

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:12 PM

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not necessary

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Not in the slightest

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

you just use desktop environment

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

even stuff like fucking stress test tools

#

for some fucking reason

#

Wonder if wine has a gui tho

#

if it doesn't then I'm out

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

There are GUI stress test tools, Wine has a GUI called PlayOnLinux

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

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wine does lol

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

📎 JPEG_20190813_141321.jpg

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

and Wine itself has some GUI configuration

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I click ok, right

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Yep

#

Just click OK

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I can just double click the .exe and it will automatically executed by wine

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

MogamiSigh

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Yep, you can just do that

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

MogamiSigh

#

I don't believe ya

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Clearly you have been doing Linux wrong the whole time

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

yeah

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

A ton of apps from the app manager is command line based from what I see

#

because I can't fucking find it anywhere!

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

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I have no idea what Linux you used or what tutorials you used

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Mint

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Pointland

#

hm

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

I did have it installed for a short while

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Bad tutorials probably

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

mint is debian based right

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

No tutorials

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Mint is Ubuntu based

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Pretty much none

#

I'm just going from observation

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

I like Fedora personally

#

Then your observation is wrong 🦊

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

and so far as I can see everything is command line based

#

Because again

#

Can't fucking find the apps I installed anywhere

#

Doesn't show up in the desktop

#

Doesn't show up in start menu

#

Nothing

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

Well, I have no idea what you did

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

note: live USB

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

Live USB shouldn't matter

#

but like, if I type "wine" into my menu I get

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

Then where the fuck are the apps?!

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

ALL the Wine config

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:17 PM

#

Because again I see pretty much nothing

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:17 PM

#

IDK what you're installing

#

or what you did to install things

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:17 PM

#

I use the package manager

#

the one built in

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

Not the Mint GUI tool?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

I still feel like using Linux is a freaking hassle

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

for installing stuff

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

Nope the built in package manager if it isn't the same thing

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

It's only a hassle if you don't take the time to get used to it and how it's different

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

Has a GUI

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:19 PM

#

Also IDK what you were installing

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:19 PM

#

tbh I had no clue either

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:19 PM

#

A lot of the stuff in the Mint repositories is command-line stuff, so it's possible you chose to install entirely command-line stuff

#

instead of the nice GUI applications

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:21 PM

#

hm

#

but yeah I still wouldn't wanna use it

#

Everything still feel like it takes an extra step

#

Like for example

#

Wine

#

Simple

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:21 PM

#

I like the package manager, I think it's easier (and safer) than downloading stuff from various websites

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:22 PM

#

I prefer that tbh, having curated stuff in one place on PC feels wrong somehow

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

#

again Wine is already an extra step

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

#

Yay i see the desktop screeen

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

#

And I'm not exactly used to using LibreOffice either...

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

#

Am i done here tho MutsukiCurse

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

#

Wine is an extra step for running Windows programs, but that makes sense

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

#

Probably?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

#

Running Linux programs on Windows would require an extra step too

#

I prefer LibreOffice, I don't like what they've done with Office since 2007

#

But the nice thing is that LibreOffice has an Office-like UI mode now

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

#

tfw you entered a national office competition

#

no seriously that's a thing

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

How do i see actual fan temps

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

Download HWMonitor

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

Since u guys said bios may be wrong

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

ehhh no

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

I mean it's not precisely like MS Office but an attempt was made

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:26 PM

#

My parents' workplace used to force everyone to install Libre at one point because licensing issues or something

#

And dear god

#

Can't get used to it at all

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:26 PM

#

Again, that's mostly just a case of getting comfortable with a UI

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:26 PM

#

📎 JPEG_20190813_142637.jpg

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:27 PM

#

use a screencapture dude

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:27 PM

#

I haven't used Windows regularly in a while, there are definitely things about it that I find weird and inconsistent

#

Also, scroll down

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:27 PM

#

inconsistent sure but I'm too used to it to switch

#

Latest build was a nice aesthetic upgrade

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

I dont have discord yet

#

On pc

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

CPUTIN is the temp yeah?

#

For CPU

#

40 C, it looks like

#

Not dreadful

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

no literally just windows+printscreen

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

?

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

He doesn't have discord to upload it to

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:29 PM

#

oh right

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:29 PM

#

thonk

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:29 PM

#

I mean I told myself that too for a while, Minami

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

Do i need to update any drivers

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

having grown up on Windows

#

Also "probably yes"

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

Is Linux actually good for consumer use?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

Depends

#

on what you are doing

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

I think of it more of a edge case

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

But then again not sure if my family can adapt either

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

#

Hah, there's one case where Linux is one step less. Drivers.

#

You don't have to install them, they're already there

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

Nope still had to install Nvidia drivers.

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

Not anymore

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

Still do the last time I checked

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

Ubuntu 19.04 ships the drivers out of the box now I believe

#

Mint is based on 18.04, so it would still have to install them

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

that ain't gonna work

#

considering how Nvidia drivers come out constantly

#

like how tf do driver updates work on linux anyway?

#

They just don't?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:32 PM

#

They update with the rest of the system packages

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:32 PM

#

maybe if I had a personal computer I might just consider

#

but considering how it's essentially the family computer

#

nah

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:33 PM

#

yeah

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:33 PM

#

@subtle hawk to answer your thoughts on whether it's an edge case, I don't think so actually. Not for a "typical" use case at least

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:33 PM

#

How do i install this 5700xt MutsukiCurse

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:33 PM

#

Once you start factoring in specific requirements like Adobe Premiere or whatever, then it starts becoming a ???

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:34 PM

#

go to amd's website I guess

#

For a gamer or media consumer, is there a need for linux?

#

also how do you get that interface in libreoffice

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:34 PM

#

View --> User Interface

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:34 PM

#

although I like the classic menu bars though

#

I feel like having more control or customization doesn't affect that target market

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

yeah

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

Gaming is still the Achilles heel of Linux, but it's getting better. Like, so much better

For media consumption there isn't really a difference, any OS will do for that

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

same reason why I'm content with Windows also

#

Also fuck privacy

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

It would make a lot of sense in businesses that require higher degree of control

#

like servers are obvious ones

#

nope

#

what's yours version

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

You need LibreOffice 6.2 or newer

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

For your average consumer though content with windows

#

oh

#

yeah because I use still package instead of fresh

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

If you're content with Windows then whatever, no real need to switch

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

~~I switched because I got pressured~~

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

I'm just saying, Linux covers surprisingly more than just edge cases for consumers

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

Yay i think im done now

#

Hopefully it boots with the ssd now

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

and also my windows install on pc is not activated

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

What distro is it anyway pig, Ubuntu 18.04?

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

manjaro

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

Oh, Manjaro lol

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

That said I did get kinda interested in Pop!OS after seeing that one LTT video

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

I used that for a bit but I think the Arch base just isn't for me
The AUR is wonderful though

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

because I used Arch most

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

AUR is wonderful and... also kinda sketchy sometimes lol

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

all you linux lots and your technobabble

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

lol yeah

#

become an elitist

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:40 PM

#

AUR is the software equivalent of a big magic box, full of treasure and occasional face-eating monsters

#

Oh no, am I an elitist? I hope not

#

lmao

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

#

me too

#

I will become one

#

if I was a programmer

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

#

Learning coding and still am not interested in Linux in the slightest

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

#

rip

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

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I like Fedora a lot, but I think it's difficult to recommend even for most Linux users

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It's a good one for development since everything is very bleeding edge

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I don't see a point still

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:42 PM

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bruh linux is the best when coding

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Pointland

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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my rpi is my mobile coding station

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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how tho

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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make man

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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because linux by default comes will all the compilers you need

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and they all work from the command line

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Linux is nice for programming for a few reasons, it supports all the languages for one thing

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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plus you learn alot about programming if you do command line stuff

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Linux expertise is good to have since most programming teams use it already

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:44 PM

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hmm nah

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:44 PM

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you say nah, but you dont understand the power of notepad and the console

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you dont have to wait 4 years for your IDE to start for one

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:45 PM

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lol

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:45 PM

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4 years my ass

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I can wait

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I see it as the fast way to get things done

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you don't always has to use command line

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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ya sure about that

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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bruh linux has the GUI versions

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I actually use Fedora not because I prefer it for programming (but I think it's up there for programming). I just find it the most stable out of all the operating systems I've used

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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GUI my ass, can't find any of the sort

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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the only thing linux does not have is game support

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then you arent looking

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Don't blame the OS on your own shortcomings 🦊

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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all RPIs come with gui by default, debian has it, ubuntu has it, [insert flavor here] has it

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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directx translation is getting better though

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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My experience with Fedora stability is funny because Fedora is like... the beta tester for Linux. It's not really supposed to be super stable, or at least it's not especially known for that

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You don't hear people recommending Fedora for stable installations. I wouldn't, either

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Also yeah DirectX translation is steadily getting better

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I was really impressed by how well Sekiro runs

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:48 PM

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if anything, get an RPI and use it for a bit

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:48 PM

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is that h e a d r o o m I hear?

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nope

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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$35 for the best computer ever made

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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also RPI too expensive

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Not really, it's just a compatibility later

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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and I don't find an use for it

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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bruh how

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RPI assembly is also really easy to understand and use

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and it doesnt hold your hand

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Bruh it's 56 bucks here

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nope

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no thanks

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again I don't see an use

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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A friend of mine runs Ubuntu 19.04, and Sekiro runs remarkably well considering the big "This is not officially supported by Valve/Steam"

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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oh no an extra $21 for components used in $800 phones

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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but no

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I don't see an use

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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i thought you wanted to learn assembly

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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maybe

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maybe not

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any other use?

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doesn't hold your hand

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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its mobile

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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even more nope

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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i mean you have to know what youre doing to actually crash the RPI with assembly

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its just its registers are literally named R0-R15

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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mobile
requires carrying dongles and peripherals around

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I won't spend that kind of money just to learn assembly

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Programming is kinda "not-handholdy" to begin with

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after the first few parts

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:52 PM

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bruh how much does $56 buy over there?

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Pointland

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also ARM assembly is a bit hard though

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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idk, a brick phone? An 8 gig stick of RAM?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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well its not named weirdly

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so you mean chump change?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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not for me it ain't

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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dont you have like a $700 comp?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Mom's money not mine

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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then get a job

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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since it's RISC which isn't made for manual writing

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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what do you mean pig?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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job
16 year old soon to be snowed under in schoolwork and part time at that age isn't common here

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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you have simple instruction set that's suited for compilers

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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all instruction sets are simple

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Not x86 :3

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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but yep, no job for me

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Pointland

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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x86 is amazingly complicated

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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savings are all i got

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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yeah x86 was made for manual assembly writing back in 16-bit days

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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every single thing a computer does can be translated to

loading from memory
saving to memory
adding 1
subtracting 1

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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but then it got extensions after extensions

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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again, what kind of uses can I get for a pi besides just learning coding anyway?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Baseline x86 isn't too complicated; modern x86 with the khgjillion-and-one extensions is complicated

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I don't see a point

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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oh and comparing

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i mean the pi is a computer

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literally a full computer

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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IoT, robotics, fun random projects, simple desktop usage

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Especially since I have to buy other stuff like a power adapter, a dongle and peripherals

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No thanks I already have a desktop

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Too uncreative to make anything cool out of it

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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is your smartphone android?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Make an alarm, an automated plant watering machine, a robot, a weather balloon...

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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rpi is just a very portable computer

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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cuz the power adapter is literally a micro usb

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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with mcu interfaces

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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you can power it from the usb port of your desktop

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Alarm? Already got one.
No garden. My house is a flat.
I'll get bored of robots soon enough
No use for weather balloons

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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it will complain of under voltage but i have literally never had a problem with that

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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The Pi 4 uses USB-C now

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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yeah but you can't fully run it though because it will just make undervoltage warnings

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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THERES A PI 4?

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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yes

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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yes

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yep

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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with 2 micro hdmis

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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gonna go check it out

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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It came out pretty recently

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They switched the cores from A53 cores to A72 cores, which basically doubled to tripled the IPC

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 6:59 PM

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and finally better gpu that doesn't require weird firmware

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:59 PM

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this is the greatest meme in history

📎 unknown.png

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 6:59 PM

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but no all those uses seem useless to me

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so no

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 6:59 PM

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excuse me now i need to replace my 3 with a 4 and then become ultimate

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is the 4 64 bit?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Yep

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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yes

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just like 3

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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I know the GPIO pins can be used for cool stuff

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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well the 3 actually only runs in 32 bit

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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but then I'll have to buy other stuff too

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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The Pi has been 64-bit since the Pi 2 v1.2

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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on top of the computer

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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nope I installed 64-bit arch arm on that

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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and peripherals and shit

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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but the OS might not be

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o

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nvm

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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oh the OS from the website was 32 bit only

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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it's just raspbian never has AArch64 version for compatibility reasons

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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like the raspian

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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again I don't see why I should get it because there ain't KB&M included in it

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like a laptop

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I mean it doesn't matter too much

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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cuz it has ARM v7, and thats only 32 bit assembly

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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if I do want to use it as a mini PC

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nahhhh

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:01 PM

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bruh you just plug in a mouse and keybaord

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its got 4 usbs

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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that's the problem

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I mean if you don't see the use case in it, then it's probably not the product for you

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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literally more USBs than any smartphone or tablet, in fact, its more than most laptops

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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yesh

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Mobile my ass especially when you still have to plug in peripherals

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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stop complaining

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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and find a monitor

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:02 PM

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do i gotta show you my makeshift laptop with my rpi?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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You showed it before

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I'd like something more usable

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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There's a company that sells laptop cases for the Pi

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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just use your pc

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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but, if you want a laptop, get a laptop. If you want a Pi in a laptop then you're not using it just as a laptop

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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btw yes I do have a laptop

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but would be interested in an experience similar to those GPD UMPCs

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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So, got everything working, but it seems like the display port doesnt work at all with 5700xt

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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📎 20180808_221033.jpg

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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then try using linux on that before switching in your pc?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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nah it's my school laptop

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Sounds like you got a dud @tidal grove, can you RMA?

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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RMA?

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Again, can't get used to Libre

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Got an old GPU you can use from a previous build?

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RMA = return

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Oh

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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warranty

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yeah i can prbly do it

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I do have warranty

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But i feel like warranty is wasted

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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What's your old GPU out of curiosity

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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i mean you could use python on the RPI for stuff excel cant even do

tidal grove Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Gtx 960

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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decent thing

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Oh yeah, I learned Python to do some hammy stuff with Excel documents the other week

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That was fun

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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like my hw assignment of doing statistics on a 148,000 line excel spreadsheet

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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And then there's the old Japanese guy that makes art using Excel...

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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use VBA

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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the pi did everything in like 10 seconds

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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that's where the old bois dwell

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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openpyxl is great

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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no need for fancy python

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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visualboyadvance?

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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visual basic

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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lol

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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we don't talk about that old emulator

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Thought we're talking about GB emulation lel

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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well we were learning data mining and analytics with python

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and then threw in machine learning

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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I know two shits about programming

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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and things got out of control

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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just SQL

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I make dashboards on Power BI and shit

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Doing art in Excel is just using it as a pixel art program, that's actually comparatively straightforward

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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1 GB is not enough ram

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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and yeah python is my main scripting language now

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I prefer it to bash

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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bruh do i need to show what ive been doing in excel?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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You can find Python on all the Linuxes to begin with

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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pivot tables?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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i mean in python?

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I'd like to see it

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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post on gitbub

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I mean to be fair, if machine learning is involved it makes sense to hook it in a Python script

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as opposed to doing it all within Excel with VBA and pivot tables

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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the only machine learning I ever did

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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random terrain generation with biomes, cities, roadways, and territories

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Jesus christ

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:09 PM

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takes about 20ish seconds for 256x256

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:09 PM

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my stuff is just converters LaffeyDrink

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why in excel

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:10 PM

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no thats in python

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i misspoke

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:10 PM

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but you said excel

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:10 PM

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yeah i put the wrong thing

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:10 PM

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time to make indie games

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:10 PM

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but still

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:10 PM

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and get rich off of the next minecraft

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yeah speaking of that game

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I forgot I need to do art LaffeyDrink

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maybe after touhou 17 work

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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also since all of those are just a bunch of images put on top of each other, the individual images can be used in any game engine to actually make it in 3d

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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artist

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touhou

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I haven't actually played MC, I have played Terraria though

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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theres are words I know

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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now in excel i have my pay calculator, which tells me about how much ill make on my next paycheck

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:12 PM

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you freelance?

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:12 PM

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and it also figures out the taxes

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no but i just like knowing what im gonna get beforehand

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:12 PM

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wow

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Question for the Linux users, which Android emulator or compatibility layer do you run on Linux (if any)

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:13 PM

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I played minecraft since beta 1.8, and stopped it around 1.5 and then got back to it again in 1.14

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I started in alpha

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:13 PM

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i got a feeling android emulation is essentially near-native

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:13 PM

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origional minecraft account

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my account is worth $$$

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and now every night is me playing it with my brother laffeyShake

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and I lost it

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@tame topaz it's just x86 android in vm

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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ive been plaing since beta 1.3

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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also I used windows for that

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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hm

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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There's actually a compatibility layer called Anbox, which I've used before, but it's still in alpha and is kinda jank

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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every commercial android app players are windows/mac

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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but it is so fast

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It runs comfortably on laptop

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Since it's not a VM or anything, everything runs super well

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:15 PM

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yeah no virtualized os layer

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and no background apps

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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However, I just use the Google Android SDK emulator on desktop, since it's less buggy and the desktop has the extra horsepower to handle it

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That's where I run Azur Lane

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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how do you bind controls though

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I don't, I run on auto all the time lmao

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I like Nox because it's mostly smooth

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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thonk

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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but I can't get over their idiotic joystick

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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how though

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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like WHY TF DO YOU MAKE IT SO UNEVEN AND NEVER FIX IT

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Yeah it's uneven on 4 sides

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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At some point, I'll probably write a script that controls the X11 pointer to bind controls

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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what exactly uneven

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are you sure it's not UI fooling you

tame topaz Aug 13, 2019, 7:18 PM

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like as if they literally draw it and never bother to check for symmetry

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so it ends up that the left side is slightly up

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and right side slightly down

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like what the hell

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wish I could get a pic

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Tbh I like my idea but the potential for it being hilariously fragile is very real

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but if I find anything like that, or I write it and get it to a nice state, I'll probably push to Github for reference

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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bruh the rpi4 has a metal CPU

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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what metal

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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i just hope it can fit in my case

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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He means how much better it is than the Pi 3

subtle hawk Aug 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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oh lol

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:20 PM

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The A72 cores are so much better than the Pi 3's A53 cores

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:21 PM

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yeah it now has that desktop silver metal covering hte CPU instead of just the chip

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meaning heatsink BOI

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Yeah, it's a hot boi. Can't sustain max frequency without a decent heatsink (+ fan, depending)

pulsar saddle Aug 13, 2019, 7:21 PM

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If you're using X11 you could probably use xwininfo to query window position of the emulator, then use xdotool to send commands

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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There are some metal cases for it

pulsar saddle Aug 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I did consider writing a script for that, but then I was like "nah, I wanna sleep"

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then forgot

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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that act as passive heatsinks

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I was thinking that lol

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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well ill probably find a heatsink kit and just stick it on there

gloomy tinsel Aug 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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or something along those lines

severe falcon Aug 13, 2019, 7:22 PM

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i already have a monitor with a case and fan built in