technology

[subtle hawk]

So did S3

So did S2

[past bison]

im in eu and i dont think my s4 had the exynos

[subtle hawk]

EU uses the INT variant

Only The Samsung Galaxy S(1) had hummingbird SoC

[past bison]

i havent used samsung for quite a few years now though, been using nokia lumia, oneplus and huawei since my bad experience with the samsung galaxy phone

[subtle hawk]

Nokia Lumia

Oh god

Antique phones

Anyway 1+ and Huawei are made for flashing roms over and over and over because why not

Do it at home, on a toilet, at school, hell, even when at a date, just flash Pie already

[past bison]

actually, huawei have locked down their recovery completely now, you cant officially unlock it anymore

[subtle hawk]

F

Xiaomi has halfway blocked the recovery by setting a timer

While Samsung is just to flip 2 switches, get a custom recovery through odin and youre good to go

Also, SafetyNet AL integration when?

[past bison]

huawei used to let anyone unlock the recovery of their phones but they cancelled that earlier this year

[mental coyote]

Actually, Sammy's locking shit down more, too. Look at the j727a, for example. Can't even oem unlock this bastard.

As for safety net? Yer best bet's stock rom rooted w/ magisk. My tab's a t580, & I don't have SN issues.

[languid saddle]

You can't unlock the Huawei Bootloader anymore, right?

That's kinda sad

[subtle hawk]

Huawei p8 lite 2017 is kinda scam, it sais 32 GB storage, sadly the os is not calculated into that, but no problem right? You can still put your apps on micro SD, but wait... nooo, they removed the feature that let's you move your apps

that gives the phone a pretty bad touch

but what should you expect from a 111€ phone these days🤷

[languid saddle]

Just go for Xiaomi lmao

I bought a year ago the Huawei P10 Pro, I'm really happy with it, though it doesn't have a Snapdragon CPU, Kirin ones are still decent

[ember crest]

How could I live with a phone that doesn't let you unlock the thingies

[past bison]

it is fine for me except i cant uninstall the bloatware huawei included on my phones tiny 16gb internal flash storage so i dont have the space to install the emui 8.0 update, im stuck on 7.x

[mental coyote]

Anything less than 32 nowadays (or 16+Adoptable Storage) is fucking criminal. Damn OEM bloat and base OS take 8Gb or so, anymore.

[past bison]

try 12gb for oem bloat + android system files, i can put in an sd card in my phone but i cant put apps on it

[wooden geyser]

What does oem tray mean?

I keep on seeing it on numerous intel processors

[subtle hawk]

My S4 had exynos

[shy forum]

@subtle hawk we should steal these commands for Z23

[subtle hawk]

oh geez

[shy forum]

Please, I want to hug her

[quaint granite]

$jojo?

[jade sinew]

what is this dick sticking on the back of the case

[barren vine]

wifi antenna

[subtle hawk]

that's a asus wifi antenna

@barren vine what motherboard

[barren vine]

asus maximum hero X i think

[subtle hawk]

understandable

mine is the big brother

maximus X formula

[barren vine]

oof

im on 16GB ram 1080ti i7 8700k

when i was 16gb ddr3, az97 dogshit mobo, 980ti

had the same case by the 3 year old version

all this so i can run VR

properly

but now im playing AL over VR

[subtle hawk]

32 GB RAM 2080Ti

8086K

clocked that sucker to 5.5

[barren vine]

wtf are u doing? mining bitcoins

sick setup thou

[subtle hawk]

no lmao

I'm not that stupid

[barren vine]

i heard 2k gpu series is just better for VR

but doesnt perform better than 1080ti in normal games

while at the same time, theres no VR that 1080ti cant run since we didnt advance in VR that much yet

[subtle hawk]

@languid saddle Kirin is decent for causing forest fires

[languid saddle]

Lmaoo

What kind of AMD FX is this?

Also, why would you use a 2080 Ti to farm bitcoins tho

I would like to make a refrigeration system with a Peltier Cell, it's really cheap and gives good temperatures

[past bison]

voltage sensor on core voltage is broken on my cpu/board though

[languid saddle]

I feel you

[subtle hawk]

@past bison how is that broken

0.6 V looks normal to me

[past bison]

this is why im not running over 4.2ghz on my cpu... i used to run it at 4.5ghz but it was so hot running at 1.25v so i took it down to 4.2ghz at 1.215v

[subtle hawk]

it's an ivy bridge

what did you expect

[past bison]

i know and it does everything i want out of it at 4.2ghz anyway so

[subtle hawk]

for example my 8086K runs at 5.5GHz at 1.33 V

and that's the upper limit

ofc I can push it further to 5.7

but I'll go into dangerous territory of 1.4

but it runs p chill

[past bison]

i could do 4.7 on mine if i pushed 1.3v but on an ivy bridge... thats going to be VERY toasty

[subtle hawk]

what cooler do you have on

[past bison]

h100i atm, im thinking of switching to a dark rock pro 3 or something since my pc is running 24/7 which isnt good for aio's

[subtle hawk]

who told you that lie

[past bison]

the liquid in the aio's gets hotter over time from my experience, i can be as cold as room temp (~15c) when i just start up my system after being away for some time but a week later or so, it idles at 45c

[subtle hawk]

ofc it does get hotter

the liquid has a thermal capacity

[past bison]

yes but my idle temps are rising constantly due to it running 24/7

[subtle hawk]

and because the heat transfer rate of the surfaces is smaller than the transfer rate of the liquid it gains heat over time

basic law of thermodynamics

it will rise up to a point

it can't just climb indefinitely

[past bison]

it shouldnt idle at 55-60c after a month of use, the radiator is cleaned

[subtle hawk]

mine idles at 25 C

but I have a very agressive fan curve

and the ambient is about 10

[past bison]

i have a static fan curve at 75%

[subtle hawk]

so it can transfer very fast

well I have it peaking 100 when it hits 50

[past bison]

100% is too loud with the noctua ppc-3000 fans

[subtle hawk]

can barely hear it

unless I take off the headset

3000 RPM is like a car purr compared to 40.000 RPM fans

[past bison]

well ofc... delta fans are delta fans...

[subtle hawk]

I have to use actual soundproofing to keep it relatively quiet

[languid saddle]

I used to have a FX, the thermal sensor of that shit it's really wrong

Below 15 ºC at idle, wtf, even with OC.

The only way to read the temperatures of a FX correctly is with AMD Overdrive or heat it to 45ºC and then check the temperatures from there

[past bison]

amds temperature sensor on the bulldozers were more accurate at higher temps iirc

[languid saddle]

Yeah

[grand hare]

whats this place about

[subtle hawk]

Tech

[grand hare]

if there is a technology to bypass clyde

[subtle hawk]

Also Linux is superior to Windows

[grand hare]

im a gamer so i use windows

once i work i might switch

or just use vm

[subtle hawk]

Emulating Linux for work

[languid saddle]

lmao

Just GNU Boot

[subtle hawk]

Dualboot*

Or Grub Boot

[grand hare]

yea i keep forgetting that exists

[languid saddle]

[subtle hawk]

[languid saddle]

I think Grub Boot it's better, not sure

[subtle hawk]

Also Arch Linux is superior to other distros except Gentoo, Slackware and LFS

[grand hare]

i heard linux gonna die

thx to sjw

[subtle hawk]

[grand hare]

[languid saddle]

How the fuck it's gonna die one of the best O.S to program?

[subtle hawk]

Linux is gonna die
Kernel updates issued on a weekly basis

[grand hare]

something about the devs about to kill linux if the sjw ceo of linux whatevs wont stop being ass

which could pretty much destroy the world

since lots uses linux

[mental coyote]

We don't discuss Coraline Ada. Seriously, don't fill my Tension Gauge this early.
Also. The very nature of GNU/Linux as an open source OS guarantees that it will get forked if shit gets too fucktarded.

[subtle hawk]

@grand hare you are correct

but it will be reborn

like a phoenix from its ashes

[mental coyote]

Hell, take Systemd as an example. You know how many alternatives there are to that shit?

[subtle hawk]

don't even get me started on systemd

[mental coyote]

OpenRC4Life

[subtle hawk]

that shit is N A S T Y

but ngl it is convenient

[mental coyote]

It is, but Poettering et al need to define an endpoint, and just stick with compatibility from then on.
Too much of a moving target, atm ... and as such, a fucking huge attack surface.

[subtle hawk]

I won't say it's so vulnerable

I mean all major cloud providers are using it

so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental coyote]

But you see my point, at least. They gotta quit bolting more shit on.

[grand hare]

can somebody delete coraline from this world

im so tired of political agenda pushed in nearly every media i follow

[mental coyote]

Folks like that are like Bebe's Kids. They don't die, they multiply.

[grand hare]

these guys never understand

silent majority my ass

[tame topaz]

I'll need to wait out at least 2 weeks to replace my stock cooler.

I mean it still sits flat but better safe than sorry.

Was just installing it and then clatters. A captive washer with no threads flat out fell out.

Mounting screw fell out next.

Gotta say installing an AMD cooler requires much more force than intel.

[rain frigate]

o_O

[tame topaz]

You need to push the screw down hard before screwing in

Unlike the mounting clips on Intel

[subtle hawk]

@unborn flicker godspeed to you

also grub is potato

and you don't need it specifically for both windows and linux

I have it running with another bootloader and it works just fine

I just have to select it when the computer POSTs

[tame topaz]

I have 2 spare 80 gig drives that I asked from my comp sci teacher

One SATA, one PATA.

Installing the PATA drive is out of the question since the PATA to SATA converter would stick out too far

Still finding an use for the other drive.

[subtle hawk]

I want one of those old hard drives that when it spins up it sounds like it's about to cut your head off cleanly

[tame topaz]

10k RPM baybee

[subtle hawk]

not even

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VQGveQXNo

this thing

[tame topaz]

Oh jesus

What year is that thing, 1980?

[subtle hawk]

no idea

but I want one of those

[tame topaz]

I love old tech in general.

[subtle hawk]

not chainsaw

shrapnel grenade

[tame topaz]

Have a few floppy disks just because

[subtle hawk]

or how the young kids say @tame topaz

a 3D printed save button

[tame topaz]

oof

Well thank god I grew up with an old as hecc P4 system

Then one day the mobo suddenly decided to fry itself

[jade sinew]

i have a p4 system right next to me

[subtle hawk]

but do you have a original 8086 system?

[jade sinew]

oh boi

[tame topaz]

Still don't know why to this day, but I remember long beeps from the speaker and a burning smell.

Holy shit 8086?!

[subtle hawk]

my dudes learn x86-16 assembly at uni and they use QEMU to run their code

and I'm like

native hardware boiiiis

[tame topaz]

And here I just want a Celeron 300 for display

Heard that thing OC'ed like a beast back in the day

[subtle hawk]

my professor was like "how in the world do you have that thing?"

[tame topaz]

Oh hello there https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Celeron-300MHz-SL2X8-Vintage-CPU-TOP-cond/253634105746?hash=item3b0dc55192:g:ZDYAAOSwkLJbAJCH:rk:1:pf:0

[subtle hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/117271426867789833/514913417727967252/teeOS.gif

what my friend made in class

[tame topaz]

8086 sell for even less, at 3 bucks,

Holy.

[subtle hawk]

in working condition?

[tame topaz]

I mean it won't really matter much to me if it is busted or not.

[subtle hawk]

it was a nightmare to piece this up

so I'm keeping it isolated from everything else

[tame topaz]

Also a few 486DXs on auction.

On the other hand of the spectrum is the 4004.

900 dollars.

[jade sinew]

also in russia some people can sold on avito (sorta russian ebay) old working or not pcs for a beer/100-500 rub

[tame topaz]

Damn, now I wanna grab some of these

[jade sinew]

but there's no auction thing on avito

[subtle hawk]

хорошое пиво))))

[tame topaz]

Gotta find a good spot for 'em first

So I wanna get into coding (got prior exp. with Scratch of all things)

Anything I should know?

made a few bullet hell games. fun times

oof

[jade sinew]

Here's that p4 pc

its like a frankenstein

[tame topaz]

Indeed it does

[mental coyote]

Ancient Alien Technology

[tame topaz]

Anyone here still have an IBM PC?

[subtle hawk]

yo

is that a old panasonic phone?

those things are like the nokia of the landline phones

[tame topaz]

Damn.

[jade sinew]

it's not like very old, but these home telephone-line phones aren't popular now cuz of mobiles and that shit

and also that pc always reminds me a bad time i had with second-hand videocards

got this case+mobo+2 agp gpus+all kinda stuff except hdds

school was like throwing this thing out

first gpu was tnt2m64 w/ 16mb vram and the second was gigabyte 7600gs (agp ver.) w/ passive cooling

tnt was failing already, but 7600gs was kicking ass

some time passed and 7600gs received a problem with this agp-bridge chip

this is easy to fix at home if you like "fry" it in the oven, or using the heatgun

and neither of that i did

then this summer i bought an another 7600gs which maybe was not working already

sticked it into the slot and tried to fire up pc, aaand got nothing, but hot heatsink on a main gpu chip

and that's what it was

two damn dead gpus

[grand hare]

damn how oldyou guys are

still have ibm pc smh

[languid saddle]

16 yo here

[atomic tinsel]

you can use a swap partition for "fake RAM" anyways

[subtle hawk]

I'm 20

and I know how to write in assembly for 2 popular old 8-bit cpus

also yeah I need to learn the original 16-bit x86 soon

[subtle hawk]

I have gotten my computer to work

[fickle crest]

I am 22 and only can put PC's together nothing more xD

[jade sinew]

i'm 16 too

[quaint granite]

the crucial part is affording a good PC

putting it together? piece of cake

[tame topaz]

15 here

[subtle hawk]

I am 12 and i installed gentoo

[mental coyote]

Yer making my self-taught ass feel like a dinosaur.

[subtle hawk]

I read somewhere that 8th gen Intel processors like

Only work with Windows 10, is that correct?

[tame topaz]

Why the hell am I reading about BSODs at night

Scaring myself kinda hard with the constant capslock and all

[subtle hawk]

@subtle hawk idk what kind of hoaxes you read

[tame topaz]

Apparently there is a bluescreen for running out of Windows trial time of all things.

And one for violating the License Agreement?!

[subtle hawk]

Odd

[tame topaz]

No I'm serious. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/bug-check-0x9a--system-license-violation

It knows.

[subtle hawk]

@subtle hawk Linux > Windows?

in any way shape and form

Best distro?

[tame topaz]

ReactOS

[subtle hawk]

there isn't a best distro

there's only best for the task

[tame topaz]

Windows pleb here oof

[subtle hawk]

Time to reinstall

[jade sinew]

ReactOS gut

[tame topaz]

Because frankly I don't care about whether software is free or not

Freedom isn't free

[jade sinew]

everything is free

[tame topaz]

So the License agreement bluescreen can detect product type changes or alterations of trial period.

Among other things.

Interesting.

[mental coyote]

I'm a firm believer W10 belongs only in a VM. Only time I'd run it baremetal would be for a job.

[subtle hawk]

I'm not gonna critic neither Win nor Mac

[mental coyote]

Ain't so much criticism, as it's a lack of functional trust. For example, I straight up loved 7.

[tame topaz]

But hey, free upgrade so I took it.

It's nice.

Because free Forza 6 woot

[subtle hawk]

@mental coyote crying about microsoft having telemetry services in place won't change anything

they're doing a decent job

we're in a time where you simply cannot go dark

[mental coyote]

And you don't think that's kinda messed up?

[tame topaz]

Barely anyone refers to DMs as Private Messages these days for a reason.

[mental coyote]

Also, yes. I'm absolutely aware it's not just Microsoft with skin in that game.

[subtle hawk]

no I don't think it's messed up

I don't live in a cave

being connected brings conveniece

@tame topaz well to me DMs and PMs are synonims

[tame topaz]

I mean yes they are essentially the same

The exact same.

But it seems like these days people don't think Private Messages is such an accurate term anymore

[quaint granite]

🤔

been using windows 10 for quite awhile

its fine

need some bloatware removal tho

and about trial and stuffs....just buy it

the thing is like 10$ if you know where to look

[mental coyote]

Frankly. The install key being in the actual firmware works in your favor on this front. Reinstall, that'll at least nuke the OEM's bloat. W10 does have its own, tho.

[quaint granite]

Also window defender is rather decent

Save yourself from having to install another antivirus software

🤔

[flint bobcat]

yeah, I only need windows defender, any thing else will likely be crap

[mental coyote]

I will admit Defender's solid.

[subtle hawk]

im using both windows defender and malwarebytes

[quaint granite]

same

[mental coyote]

Late 7, early 8 is when defender got actually good.

[graceful crescent]

throws Windows XP down

***Technology

Its 2 30 am for me

[grand hare]

i wonder if you still can get free win 10 from cracked win 7

[quaint granite]

nyeh

[subtle hawk]

It's way past the free upgrade period

[subtle hawk]

it still works if you have a valid license from an older windows right?

[languid saddle]

Not sure

I've been using Windows 7 with cracked license for almost 5 years

[atomic tinsel]

@grand hare you can buy win10 for like $4

and it'll work

do note that it's probably OEM windows

where companies buy windows machines and then put their own OS or linux or smth on them

meaning the windows keys are useless

so they sell it off

which is technically not supposed to happen

but it still works fine

you can get the keys on ebay for $4

[quartz atlas]

more than 3k elements blocked by UBlock on discord?

[jade sinew]

My grandfather found this new floppy pack at his work place

And also there is one sealed pack

[flint bobcat]

Woah

That’s some old stuff

Pretty cool

[quartz atlas]

i still use floppy disc for work sometimes

the aviation industry uses very old tech.

we order out-of-production IBM floppys lul.

[glossy panther]

Destroyed about 100 floppys by hand the other day

[subtle hawk]

wewlad

[gritty kite]

Here I thought my labs were archaic for having the option for floppy disks, you are full on using them.

[subtle hawk]

what about 5.25" ones though

[scenic atlas]

Relevant meme to this channel

[glossy panther]

Magical

[visual quartz]

that's something

[tame topaz]

Burn Order

Ah man what a fun joke

[willow sedge]

hmm
got a problem
my computer using window 10 seems to be 2-3 min late on the clock
is there anyways to tell it to auto adjust?

[flint bobcat]

right click on time -> adjust date/time

set time automatically should be enabled

[willow sedge]

fixed thanks

[flint bobcat]

[quartz atlas]

anyone up for a discussion of Random Number Generators and how to best have true randomness in theory?

[severe falcon]

@quartz atlas the problem i have is that i have never seen the full implementation of the ones that come with C++ or java. Even when searching for them

Its like its just some kind of arcane magic. Im imagining a pentagram on an ic

[languid saddle]

40 euros for an old GT730 is good? Trying to sell my "old" one, is a 2 GB GDDR5 from Gigabyte

[subtle hawk]

@languid saddle you're selling it?

or buying

because that's a very old card

[languid saddle]

Selling

I think the Rev 2.0 of the Gigabyte version was released on 2012

Not sure

[subtle hawk]

I would pay at best 20 euros for it

but you never know

someone might actually buy it for that price

[languid saddle]

https://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte-geforce-gt-730-2gb-gddr5

This is the original price from where I bought it

Around 70-80 Euro

Yeah, it is actually 30-40 Euro, mine's the most new GT 730

[severe falcon]

yeah selling old tech is weird, i once sold a comp of unknown working status that still used ribbon cables for ~22 euros

[languid saddle]

[subtle hawk]

@languid saddle doesn't matter what you bought it for initially

when you sell used stuff you have to adjust to the market

or else it will never sell

[languid saddle]

Basically that

I kinda know how it works, cuz I used to sell a lot of cards on CardMarket

[subtle hawk]

consider this @languid saddle

the newest GT1030 sells for 70 euros

brand new

and the used higher end cards go for about 100

[languid saddle]

Not 70 euros in my Country

That's another factor

[past bison]

there comes a point where old tech gains value instead of losing value because they have become collector items but that wont happen to most gpus from ~2005 and onwards for many more years

[tough ridge]

lol

math.random()

xd

[severe falcon]

but is environmental noise going to seem more random than pseudo random?

well i wonder if it would have the same problem as pseudo random when shuffling a playlist

no the shuffling playlist problem is that using pseudo random to just generate random numbers led to songs by the same artist being grouped together

so when you hit shuffle on an iphone (maybe an android but the problem started with IOS) its actually not all that random

[tough ridge]

can you not make it regenerate the list with every turn

I remember somewhere I hit shuffle and randomise settings at the same time and it was never predictable whenever I hit previous or next song

[severe falcon]

wait wait

well i cant find the specific thing im talking about probably cuz im not using the right search terms, but apparently a new problem is that shuffling 1000 songs tends to have alot of the same songs appearing in the first 20, 50, 100 songs of the shuffled playlist

[tough ridge]

uh oh favoring some songs :notlikethis:

[severe falcon]

well the thing is, i have a small but very weird playlist on my samsung, so its not like its artist preference, but i also tend to see the first 10 or so having alot of the same ones as last time

[tough ridge]

can you try different music players? or is that like OS based?

[severe falcon]

wait i think this is just a case of rng being rng

[tough ridge]

could be, I myself listen to dj sets so I listen to all songs in order wether I want to or not usually

[severe falcon]

cuz 10 songs out of 100, when i shuffle again it starts picking and it has a 10/100, 10/99, 10/98 chance of picking a song from the first 10 of the previous playlist

so statictics wise im basically guarateed to have one of the previous 10 in the new 10

[subtle hawk]

/dev/random is also pseudo random

so is any computer based randomness

[severe falcon]

side note about randomness, it might be more #quantum-physics than #technology but does anyone know if there is some kind of particle or something that no amount of technology could ever be able to predict its movement or something?

[subtle hawk]

a maximum entropy particle?

not that I know of

[severe falcon]

well basically is there something in reality that is random or will it forever be a human construct

[subtle hawk]

the latter

[severe falcon]

oof

[subtle hawk]

our entire universe is guided by rules

and if you know those rules you can predict how something can behave

well not 100% accurate

but you can

this is some /r/showerthoughts but if you think about it our entire universe is like a quantum particle

not fully chaotic

nor perfect

[severe falcon]

it reminds me of when i tried to make a neural network colorize black and white images.
i was solving a problem where the answer can never be correct
so i guess making better rng is trying to answer an unsolvable problem

but maybe gravitons are the solution to randomness, the particle that should exist but we have no idea if it actually does

[subtle hawk]

true randomness exists only in a math perfect plane

but for what we have right now it's plenty enough

[severe falcon]

can we get some neural networks to start spitting out rngs in the hopes of finding some really strange ones

each week the foxmines uses a different one

[flint bobcat]

thonk

[sage junco]

[severe falcon]

one day the kagpocalypse happens and foxes spontaneously take over your docks

[subtle hawk]

they use a special algorythm I invented to that EN players will never get foxes without a blood sacrifice

[mental coyote]

I think you deployed that to Poifarm by accident.

[subtle hawk]

maybe

[tough ridge]

I got poi before I finished clearing 6-4 fully

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk hey uhhhh you got any pics of nimi sensei without her wrapper functions?

[mental coyote]

NaCl

[severe falcon]

i need them for uhhh research

[tough ridge]

but it took me 2 months on foxes lol

[subtle hawk]

wrapper functions?

u mean the framework?

[severe falcon]

i couldnt really think of something program equivalent for clothing XD

[subtle hawk]

oh

OH

[mental coyote]

Code-condoms

[severe falcon]

what language is she btw?

[subtle hawk]

no niimi sensei is pure

she's more than one

[mental coyote]

True. Must not lood the Nimi

[severe falcon]

does one of those happen to be javascript?

[subtle hawk]

yes

[severe falcon]

because if so im so sorry for her disability

oh

[subtle hawk]

JS is mostly used for the logic

[severe falcon]

yeah i only dont like it cuz i had to make a website thingy in one of my classes this semester

and we found a problem where JS was having fun executing line 15 before line 14 finished

[subtle hawk]

that's browser JS

totally different

[severe falcon]

ok good nvm about her disability

[subtle hawk]

she's made in JS, C++, Go and Elixir

[flint bobcat]

What is made in that

[severe falcon]

but yeah i kinda dont like browser JS because line 14 had some stuff that was essential for line 15 to work

[tough ridge]

could probably make some workaround anyway

[flint bobcat]

Who’s Nimi

[severe falcon]

nimi is z23

[flint bobcat]

Oh

[severe falcon]

now i dont want to jinx it but shes the bot right over there ---------->

the last time i said that she had died

[flint bobcat]

Ah, so is Yamato the one that created her

[severe falcon]

yes he is Fog Bot Developer Yamato

[flint bobcat]

Nice

I did create one for my guild, but it is not as powerful as Z23 because it only uses Node js

[subtle hawk]

technically Z23 can scale up to millions of guilds

[severe falcon]

is z23 private rn?

or like is she only on this server or can others get her

[subtle hawk]

private

she's here in the backyard server and on my test server

that is a carbon copy of this one

[flint bobcat]

How did you implement each language into one application

Because I have a hard time embedding

[subtle hawk]

technically it's multiple bits

all joined together

[flint bobcat]

Hmm

[severe falcon]

the closest thing ive done to using multiple languages in one product was a gui in C++ messing with an arduino

but arduino uses c++ or at least something identical so idk if it counts

[flint bobcat]

Uses C

[severe falcon]

ah

[flint bobcat]

But a GUI in arduino is really cool if you think about it

[subtle hawk]

it's not even really C

[severe falcon]

well it was a GUI communicating with an arduino, i could change the RGB of an LED and get voltage readings

actually no it wasnt even an arduino it was a teensy running with arduino code

[flint bobcat]

Are ya both CS majors like me?

[severe falcon]

yes i am i still have 2 semesters left

[subtle hawk]

I'm doing my major as a side thing

[severe falcon]

if only warnings came with an image of nimi sensei with the red glowing eyes of justice

[subtle hawk]

we can fix that

[flint bobcat]

That would be really fun

Or an Owarida image

[severe falcon]

I feel like we need a cursed technology image here, courtesy of my dead calculator

[flint bobcat]

What happened

[past bison]

aliens trying to communicate with you?

[severe falcon]

well i think it was below freezing temperatures and i got it out and it felt ice cold and then it did that

i think it was still working but the display was messed up

[gritty kite]

That would likely cause something to jump

Though why did you put it in an area below freezing?

[severe falcon]

left in backpack in car

[gritty kite]

F

[mental coyote]

Siren communications

[severe falcon]

its how zuikaku found out she was in a simulation

[subtle hawk]

She's made in JS, C++, Go and Elixir
Ultimate being

[quartz atlas]

What do ya'll feel about RTX and the new Titan?

[tame topaz]

All I can say is that those who splurged 3k on a Titan V must feel pretty ripped off.

[quartz atlas]

If you're buying Titan cards, you probably ain't worried about $ tho.

[subtle hawk]

I can say this

the RTX Titan and Titan V are completely different

one is a RT monstrosity

the other is a AI and ML beast

@quartz atlas the Titans imho are what i9 CPUs are

weirdly placed products

[quartz atlas]

True.

They are the true enthusiast products that don't give a shit about value for money.

It's simply there to be the best and out do competition.

Can't wait for raytracing above 60fps on 1440p tho

[subtle hawk]

not rlly

they're in that limbo that is the space between Quadros and GTX/RTX

[quartz atlas]

Quadro outperform titans in gaming or animation?

[subtle hawk]

animation, rendering, AI

[tame topaz]

Holy fucking shit https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a3big6/amd_zen_2_leaked_cpu_specs/?utm_source=reddit-android

If this is true then I will be so damn glad that I switched to team red

[quartz atlas]

Huh. I was under the assumption that Titans were better at rendering. What makes gaming different from rendering that a quadro will perform better at rendering but not as well as gaming

[tame topaz]

I mean the leaks are from AdoredTV so there are many reasons to believe him.

Though I am rather doubtful about clocks.

[quartz atlas]

Time to show up intel again

[subtle hawk]

Titan cards are how I like to call them "1/2 of a Quadro"

[tame topaz]

I mean AMD pulled cheap hexa cores before with FX

So I think this is credible.

[quartz atlas]

I think Intel still takes the lead at single core performance for top tier products right now tho.

[subtle hawk]

not with zen 2

that leak is spicy af

[tame topaz]

Of course you really can't deny that Intel has always been leading in IPC

But this?

Well, ohohohoho...

[quartz atlas]

If the clocks are true tho. But we'll have to see.

[tame topaz]

30% IPC bump and then this?!

[subtle hawk]

Intel has to step up their game

[quartz atlas]

This channel is the most peaceful rn

[tame topaz]

Oh man, Team Red is in for a treat next year.

Of course, cautious optimism is key here.

[subtle hawk]

and stop cannibalizing their HEDT and low end Xeon chips

[tame topaz]

We still have half a year to go before CES

So plenty of time for more leaks to spring up

[quartz atlas]

I hate that amd is kinda falling off the gpu space. As much as I like nvidia being a monopoly due to my stock position, it ain't healthy.

[subtle hawk]

well we still have to see Navi leaks

[tame topaz]

And Arctic Sound.

Interesting to see how that would go.

[subtle hawk]

and what Intel has under their sleeve

[quartz atlas]

They said they won't be able to compete at top tier themselves IIRC

[subtle hawk]

blue team GPU soon™?

[quartz atlas]

Fingers crossed

[tame topaz]

I mean they hired Raja for a reason

[subtle hawk]

Intel doing GPUs 🤔

[quartz atlas]

But I doubt anyone can deal with RTX at the moment.

[tame topaz]

I believe this week is when they will talk further about their GPU architecture

[subtle hawk]

we all knew something was up when they yeeted Raja from RTG

[quartz atlas]

As in raytracing tech.

[tame topaz]

Dev of BFV says that current RTX in-game still has room for improvement.

So definitely anticipating that

[subtle hawk]

real time ray tracing? yes

scene ray tracing? no

[quartz atlas]

Nvidia literally poured billions of rnd into RTX. I doubt anyone can catch up with speed without a massive investment.

[tame topaz]

Radeon Rays for consumers when

[quartz atlas]

Real time Ray tracing is certainly a game changer imo

[subtle hawk]

it is

[tame topaz]

[subtle hawk]

[quartz atlas]

Tons of idiots online shitting on it tho smh

Omg

That Portland point

[tame topaz]

Now tbh they have a point

This tech is seriously early

So cutdowns in frames are unavoidable

[quartz atlas]

Not really they don't, if they want pure fps, turn RTX off.

[subtle hawk]

now all we need is vector graphics that can match bitmap

[quartz atlas]

I'm not talking about those saying the tech is early and expensive

[subtle hawk]

and we have as close to realistic graphics as we can

[tame topaz]

It'll be interesting to see how it goes.

[quartz atlas]

I'm talking about those literally saying that real-time raytracing is no big deal and shouldn't exist.

[tame topaz]

As long as AMD catches up.

[quartz atlas]

Yes that

Gone with pixel maps

[subtle hawk]

after that we'll need true VR and gone are KBM type games

[tame topaz]

Begone with rasterisation

[quartz atlas]

Why have 4k textures when you can have inifite zoom

[tame topaz]

Also 2060 is rumored to be RTX

Am worried

[subtle hawk]

it's not

[quartz atlas]

I want full dive please

I won't think so

The 2080 struggles with RTX enough.

[subtle hawk]

novideo said clearly

only 2070 and up

[quartz atlas]

No video

New meme for dead GPUs?

[tame topaz]

Wonder if GDDR6 made any kind of improvenent

Novideo has been a nickname for Nvidia for a long time now

[subtle hawk]

hey my 2080 Ti isn't dead

[quartz atlas]

In theory yes, increased bandwidth after all.

[subtle hawk]

yet

[quartz atlas]

Oh rly? @tame topaz

[subtle hawk]

yeah

[quartz atlas]

The issue was out blown by as far as I can tell.

The failure rates were low single digits

[subtle hawk]

Shintel, NoVideo, AyyyMD and Refresh Technologies Group

[tame topaz]

And iirc hardware unboxed's 2080 Ti didn't die in their 48-hour stress test

[quartz atlas]

But the press jumped on it

Who is refresh tech

[subtle hawk]

Radeon Technologies Group

[quartz atlas]

Oh

[subtle hawk]

RTG for short

[quartz atlas]

That one

[tame topaz]

Because FreeSync

[subtle hawk]

VESA Sync is better than both

[quartz atlas]

I still don't get gsync myself. Why does nvidia still make those overpriced modules. It doesn't really make sense. Ive heard some where that gsync is actually costing them money to provide to monitor OEMs

[tame topaz]

Man I'll need to change my mobo someday

[subtle hawk]

it does

[tame topaz]

Yes it's cheap but no VRM heatsinks

[subtle hawk]

the OEM has to pay for GSync license and module

[tame topaz]

Also no StoreMI

nor RGB

[quartz atlas]

And yet nvidia still loses $ on them and potentially lose customers too due to the cost.

[subtle hawk]

I'm loving my mobo to bits

[quartz atlas]

Of cuz u do

[tame topaz]

Model?

[quartz atlas]

I would love yours to bits too

[subtle hawk]

Maximus X Formula

[tame topaz]

Damn

[subtle hawk]

it just looks SOO GOOD

[tame topaz]

Well I mean it makes sense since you do have a 2080 Ti

Mine is a lowly AB350M-HDV

[quartz atlas]

You probably won't go for a titan amirite

[tame topaz]

The most basic of basics

[subtle hawk]

nope

[quartz atlas]

I still run a laptop

[tame topaz]

Only because I got it for dirt cheap as a clearance sale

[subtle hawk]

if I would get something stronger I would get a Quadro

[tame topaz]

Last one in stock too, so that was lucky.

[quartz atlas]

My laptop occasionally struggles to render my anime

[subtle hawk]

Anime u say?

[quartz atlas]

During intensive action scenes

I run anime with madvr

[subtle hawk]

4K anime

how does that sound

[quartz atlas]

I kinda cranked the settings up abit but I don't really know what I'm doing.

It's only 1080p for me tho

I don't have a 4k display haha

[subtle hawk]

fyi, it's a PITA to upscale

[quartz atlas]

I just know that my anime looks good. I generally use blu-ray raws when available.

[subtle hawk]

but thx to this godlike japanese tool it does actually take use of cores

[quartz atlas]

Pita?

[tame topaz]

Pain in the ass

[quartz atlas]

Oh pita

Yea the cranks in my brain turned

Does up scaling look good tho?

[subtle hawk]

it's similar to waifu2x

but only for movie formats

[quartz atlas]

I've heard it causes some detail loss from 480p to 1080p unscale for eg.

[subtle hawk]

yeah from 480p it would look rply bad

[tame topaz]

So wait, you're talking about what's essentially waifu2x that has to render 24/30 fps

[subtle hawk]

but 720 and 1080 is decent

yeah @tame topaz

[quartz atlas]

Ahh

[tame topaz]

I can already imagine how intensive that would be

[subtle hawk]

well the Xeon server ain't breaking a big sweat

[quartz atlas]

I used to run svp for awhile too. Couldn't deal with the artifects and deleted it.

[tame topaz]

Of course it isn't.

[subtle hawk]

everything is stored on the NAS where Plex on the main host feeds from

[quartz atlas]

So upscaling is a job for the Cpu?

[subtle hawk]

yes

[quartz atlas]

:yeptune:

[tame topaz]

🦀 THEY KILLED 🦀

🦀 THE PENTIUM LINE!! 🦀

Rumored Ryzen 3 3000 lineup in a nutshell

[subtle hawk]

I've always used i7s and Xeons

[tame topaz]

Stuck with Pentium only until recently

[subtle hawk]

the exception is my 2nd hand macbook

that runs an i5

dual core

[tame topaz]

Notebook i5s have always been dual core

[quartz atlas]

I can't dispel the productivity of a MacBook at the work place. But God is it expensive and such a closed ecossystem.

[tame topaz]

I still do not get why people use it for productivity.

[subtle hawk]

not if you only care about the laptops

[tame topaz]

Just get a ThinkPad

[subtle hawk]

noty

[tame topaz]

Or an XPS

[quartz atlas]

Especially during meetings, files can just airdroped.

[subtle hawk]

I hate with a passion for work

[quartz atlas]

But God forbid if someone is running windows

And you have to send it as an attachment

And God forbid that that attachment is too big and you have to use Dropbox

[tame topaz]

Seems like almost everyone here has a common trait: a fervent hate for Windows.

[subtle hawk]

give me either or something *NIX

[quartz atlas]

I don't hate windows

[subtle hawk]

but not windows

[quartz atlas]

I'm just saying apple nailed the productity part

I can't afford a mac myself

[tame topaz]

Tbh I've never really cared about what OS I'm using.

[quartz atlas]

But I'm just an intern so

[tame topaz]

"ooh free upgrade? I'LL TAKE IT!"

[subtle hawk]

I have a MacBook because lmao having battery life on a Linux install

[tame topaz]

Never really got used to NIX

[subtle hawk]

give me a terminal and 10 min and I'll get your entire infrastructure up and running on your entire server cluster

[quartz atlas]

I used linux to program an ips using WiFi packets. Windows didn't like me putting stuff in sniffing mode lul.

[tame topaz]

Wonder if I should get a Pi

Not like I have any use in mind for it

[subtle hawk]

I have a whole army of pis

[quartz atlas]

Pi sounds fun tho

[subtle hawk]

and arduinos

[quartz atlas]

Control all the lights

[subtle hawk]

more like controll all the house

[quartz atlas]

I onlynaheb lights to control in my hse so

[subtle hawk]

I've replaced my light switches with touch surfaces and voice commands

[tame topaz]

my mind this whole time: "holy shit this guy is fucking awesome"

But yeah I wanna get started with coding.

[subtle hawk]

if there's #technology channel in any server, every people active there will always hate windows

I like for everyday use and gaming and whatnot

when it comes to work

me too

awwwww hell nah

[tame topaz]

Got Some basic exprerience with Scratch making some simple bullet hell games

I wanna ascend

[subtle hawk]

you'll need to learn the wae of the OOP

[tame topaz]

?

[subtle hawk]

Object Oriented Programming

[tame topaz]

Ah yes

Too bad my middle school ditched Pascal

Or rather computer science entirely after the first year

[subtle hawk]

in middle school I did Pascal too

for like a month

Pascal 🤔

before switching to C

Pascal was waaaaay too boring

[tame topaz]

Supposed to take up a year in the usual comp sci program

[subtle hawk]

my middle school started at C or Java

[tame topaz]

fucking developed countries oof

[visual quartz]

pascal

[quartz atlas]

The only programming I took in sch was one semester of C# IIRC.

[tame topaz]

And I'm sitting here being the ace of the class at Powerpoint.

Womp womp

[quartz atlas]

I don't even know what for. I'm studying aviation and forced to learn programming.

But it saved my GPA tho

Got a distinction in that subject

[subtle hawk]

aviation is fun

[quartz atlas]

Still my only distinction in sch.

[subtle hawk]

doe it uses ancient hardware

[quartz atlas]

Yes

We still use floppys in the office lul

We order them out of production stocks from IBM

[tame topaz]

I saw some really cheap 486s and Celeron 300s

Wanna buy them for display

[subtle hawk]

mfw the avionics computer looks at USB like it's some sort of alien technology

[quartz atlas]

Every avionic system is at least a decade old due the sheer amount of testing and development needed for each new aircraft or system.

[subtle hawk]

yeah they all use serial COM ports

[tame topaz]

I mean 5th gen jets are expected to remain in use until at least 2030-something

[quartz atlas]

For eg, when you want a new processor say for your new Airbus, you need to see which processor was the most reliable and works without failure for 10 years at least.

So you end up with a 10yr old processor to work with

Then the plane development itself will take another 10 years or more

So by the time your plane starts flying, your on board computer is 2 decades old.

I mean our latest communication tech is freaking hex codes

Time to sqawk 7700 lul

[subtle hawk]

I mean it's digital

so there's that

[quartz atlas]

We can't be using analog can we

[subtle hawk]

well ur radio is still analog

for obvious reasons

[quartz atlas]

I like how haywire pilots can just turn off the transponder

[subtle hawk]

totally doesn't have an SDR hooked up to an antenna

[quartz atlas]

Sdr?

[subtle hawk]

software defined radio

[quartz atlas]

Idk what's that tho. Never learned about that in my syllabus so far.

[subtle hawk]

you can tune it to any freq you wan in the SRD's operation spectrum

[quartz atlas]

Maybe when I go get my bachelors

I'm only studying diploma right now.

[subtle hawk]

cen even listen in on aviation talk

[quartz atlas]

Ouhhhhh

I get it now

It's the hobbyists radio thing right

[subtle hawk]

ye

you can even use it to download imagery off satellites

[quartz atlas]

Technology amazes me.

I still think cpus and GPUs are magic haha

How a plane flies is magic to me too

[subtle hawk]

technically they're just rocks that can do math

[quartz atlas]

Ikr

It's just groves cut into wafers of rock

Bloody amazing

[subtle hawk]

filled with metal

very light metal

[quartz atlas]

Tbh, life is pretty magical too.

[tame topaz]

When I watch old tech channels like LGR, I'd always end up wondering how they achieved such a feat like this

Making a hunk of silicon think

Pretty amazing.

[quartz atlas]

Inb4 we find silicon based lifeforms.

If we think about it

We're rock too

[subtle hawk]

some lifeforms on earth is already silicon

[quartz atlas]

Complex carbon

[quaint granite]

SILICON BASED LIFEFORMS ?

[quartz atlas]

Did I live under a rock and missed out on aliens?

[subtle hawk]

huh

mfw only masterate students are thought about neural interfaces

[tame topaz]

Air channel transistors...

Said to have the potential to extend Moore's law for another 10 years

[quartz atlas]

Masterate are tot abt neural interfaces?

[subtle hawk]

ye

not license students

apparently we're too dum for that

[quartz atlas]

Im confused at the meaning of the sentence.

[subtle hawk]

University has 3 stages

[quartz atlas]

Bach, masters, PhD?

[subtle hawk]

License, Masterate and Doctorate

[quartz atlas]

Oh

So you mean that people say "only masters students think about neural interfaces."

[subtle hawk]

bachelors is given after 12 classes here

ye

they're not that hard

[quartz atlas]

I see.

I won't need a bachelors even if I can make it as a pilot for my national airline.

Will have to see tho.

[subtle hawk]

I'm only getting my major so that my relatives can get off my back

you know, academic family and all that

lol

[quartz atlas]

Aren't you already very successful?

Senior developer and all

[subtle hawk]

kinda?

[quartz atlas]

Chinese families are academia focused too smh.

[subtle hawk]

I don't need that major at all but can't have a family member without one

[quartz atlas]

So I kinda understand.

[subtle hawk]

that would be heresy

[quartz atlas]

We literally have thousands of suicides a year due to them scoring badly for "高考", the Chinese equivalent of A'levels.

But getting #off-topic here haha

[subtle hawk]

ahem

but yeah we're 20-30 years away from full dive VR

if not less

[quartz atlas]

Not more?

I would think that brain wave simulation is pretty far off

[subtle hawk]

we already have full duplex neural interfaces

[quartz atlas]

[subtle hawk]

mostly used on patients that suffer from paralysis or blindness

with these interfaces they can talk or see again

[quartz atlas]

I can't even begin to understand how it'll work. Will it be something like induced dreaming or something that can be decoded by a computer?

[subtle hawk]

it will be real

you'll be able to tell that it's VR ofc

[quartz atlas]

time to start saving up and retire my life into full dive.

So it won't be like SAO kinda full dive?

[subtle hawk]

but before that AR will become mainstream

since it's easier to do

[quartz atlas]

Yes I would say AR within half a decade

Especially once it picks up in the military

[subtle hawk]

I mean we already have the holo lens

once AR is mainstream ripp smartphones

and smartwatches, headphones, etc

[quartz atlas]

I still see Google glass becoming mainstream tho. Or Google contacts even.

I won't sacrifice my headphones tho. I need my good sound quality. Nothing wireless can deliver that yet.

[subtle hawk]

well google glass is a dead project

it was canned ages ago

[quartz atlas]

Isn't project x still kinda working on the next gen?

[subtle hawk]

why use headphones when you can have direct sound into your brain

[quartz atlas]

That works too

Getting all futuristic here haha

[subtle hawk]

literally telepathy

[quartz atlas]

But as they say

The future is now

[subtle hawk]

this conversation just makes me anxious

we're on the brink of another global revolution

[quartz atlas]

Think about your smartphone just 2 years ago and compare it to a current Flagship. The difference is amazing.

[subtle hawk]

yeah

[quartz atlas]

Technology is exponential

[subtle hawk]

should I remind you that computers only existed for about 30 years

also I remember that I read somewhere about we are 40 years away from brain uploading

[quartz atlas]

But I seriously hope that Elon won't kill the aviation industry with SpaceX anytime soon.

I still wanna be a pilot

Can you imagine what game graphics would be like if consoles didn't hold us back.

Gosh the wasted opportunities

Just look at crisis. Full physics environment and everything.

[subtle hawk]

the meme that is crysis

[quartz atlas]

It may be a meme but dang it ahead of its time.

[subtle hawk]

has 5000$ pc
but can it run crysis

[quartz atlas]

Btw, when raredropwe pm nimi, where does the messages go? Does it get purged eventually?

[subtle hawk]

nope

they're kept

forver

by discord

I don't even wanna know what ppl DM niimi with

[quartz atlas]

I have some raredrop screenshots

But werent nimi collecting collab ideas that one time?

[subtle hawk]

yes

the feedback command was archived some time ago

[quartz atlas]

Oh so that was a one time thing for nimi to be able to get the messages back to you?

So technically, it'd be kinda impossible right now for nimi to reply to DMs right?

[subtle hawk]

nope

I mean technically it's possible

but nothing that I have rn

[quartz atlas]

Raredrop gon be sad haha.

Nimi machine learning neural network when

[subtle hawk]

ez

can use the neural network off of my virtual assistant

[quartz atlas]

You made your own virtual assistant?

[subtle hawk]

yeah

doe it's not rlly one

it's more on the line of a alexa

you give it commands it does stuff

[quartz atlas]

Amazing

This server is full of amazing people

[subtle hawk]

I agree

I'm still not close to what others can do

[quartz atlas]

You're amazing enough to us tho.

[tame topaz]

Indeed.

Man, you're cool as all heck.

[tame topaz]

So new BFV RTX benchmarks

And...

Very, very good!

60fps, 1440p with RTX Ultra on a non-Ti 2080

[flint bobcat]

@subtle hawk what’s the difference between AI and machine learning, and which ones more efficient?

[subtle hawk]

AI is the result of ML

[flint bobcat]

thonk

[sage junco]

[severe falcon]

Machine learning is teaching a complete idiot of an artificial intelligence to actually have intellegence

@flint bobcat or try to teach it at least, sometimes the only grade the ai gets is a "well you tried"

[fickle crest]

Hey, so you guys seem to know a lot more about that stuff as me so here is my question:

What does an Sound Card do what the one inside the Mainboard doesn't do?

Are they useful? Or worth buying when for example streaming to tweak audio on stream (if they make this possible)?

I would get one from asus to put directly into the motherboard but that sadly doesn't answer my question

[severe falcon]

uhh @fickle crest from what i remember my uncle telling me about them, they were alot more useful on earlier slower computers where the card would do the processing for better sound quality

nowadays there isnt much use for them in the normal consumer area, they would still work but your mb does a pretty good job already

[fickle crest]

ah oki thanks :3

I thought they might add some additional possibilitys of how to work with sound, since there seem to be ones from ASUS for example which just looked like they where supposed to do much :'D

[subtle hawk]

@fickle crest PCIe sound cards aren't worth it

most mid tier motherboards come with excelent DACs

[severe falcon]

well some sound cards have an additional front panel that goes where a cd drive would that could add some functionality like having seperate chat and game audio with knobs to adjust them

[subtle hawk]

if you want a true refined audio opt for a external USB DAC

[fickle crest]

My thought was splitting audio in some kind with easy tweaking

[subtle hawk]

well @severe falcon how many cases these days have front bays

[severe falcon]

yeah you are correct but most of the sound cards that had those are coming up on a decade old XD

the only reason you would need a sound card is if you got the high end professional ones and you were recording your own music or something

[subtle hawk]

schiit audio makes excelent USB DACs and amplifiers

I'm personally gonna upgrade later on to a XLR setup

[fickle crest]

sadly i dont know all the tech abbreviations xD

just the basic ones

[severe falcon]

also on the whole thing with cases and front bays, my most recent case doesnt have any so i currently have no way to play my cd games

[fickle crest]

my new cover will have front bays but just for audio and just

there will be no "door" to open to get to the CD player

at least from the looks of it

[severe falcon]

i went from 5 front bays to none, this was my old case

[languid saddle]

Lost Frames are mostly because micro internet cuts right?

I think is probably cuz trash Wi-Fi signal

[severe falcon]

is the 1.7% down there the lost frames?

[fickle crest]

Mine will be this:

yeah the 1.7% seem to be the lost frames

[severe falcon]

if its wifi thats probably the reason

[fickle crest]

dropped frames are rather PC power

I stream via Wi-fi

and I don't lose more than 0.3% frames, except in more power needing games

[severe falcon]

well he said trashy wifi so idk how reliable it is

[subtle hawk]

I'll never ever use wifi on a desktop

for laptop, table or phone sure

[fickle crest]

I sadly do not have another option yet

I would go cable instantly if I could

[severe falcon]

i use wifi on my desktop but my wifi is actually more reliable than my isp so.....

[languid saddle]

Router is 20 metres away + Amplifier

Not my fault I'm still searching for a fucking point behind the walls to get the cable through

[severe falcon]

20 METERS?

[subtle hawk]

well

[fickle crest]

ö-ö

[languid saddle]

My house is 212m^2