technology

[quartz atlas]

Ew

[feral hill]

something something numbers idk

[quartz atlas]

Acer

[inland marsh]

No more access port sure, but still a cver. No need to disassemble the electronics for one, hopefully

[feral hill]

i got it out after like 50 minutes

how do i use it

[quartz atlas]

now for the fun part

open your pc and find the psu and hope its not modular

[feral hill]

wha

[quartz atlas]

this has pictures

https://www.pcworld.com/article/535852/how-to-install-a-new-hard-drive-in-your-desktop-pc.html

tldr u need a power cable and sata cable

[feral hill]

....fuuuuuck

[quartz atlas]

and make sure ur pc is off

like the psu is flipped to off

or just disconnect from wall entirely

[feral hill]

so if i want to use both i need those cables?

my pc came with a box full of a bunch of cables but idk what any of them are for

or can i only use 1 of them

[quartz atlas]

u need both

sata is for data to your motherboard

power is well... for power and connects to your psu

if your psu is non-modular, it will already be connected to your psu

[feral hill]

ya makes sense i'd need both cables, but i mean like can i use both hdds at once if i can figure out how to get it in?

[wintry forge]

look for these two cables (color of cable doesn't matter)

yeah you can use several storages at once

[feral hill]

[wintry forge]

most motherboards come with at least 4 sata ports

[quartz atlas]

power cable should look smth like this for non-modular psu

[feral hill]

ok looks like pc came with an extra of that bottom one

[quartz atlas]

but one end is attached to your psu

[feral hill]

[quartz atlas]

i doubt a prebuilt will put in a modular power supply

esp if its not a high priced machine

oh, and dont fiddle around with your motherboard on a carpet and wearing socks

extremely low chance of static damaging your computer, but its still good not to

[feral hill]

sounds like a good time

[wintry forge]

connect the L shaped cable to your laptop hard drive and the motherboard, the place you want to plug it in should look something like this

some motherboards have the thing facing sideways, but they do the same thing

then, get this cable from your power supply and connect it to the hard drive

[feral hill]

so i have that cable too but the bag is labelled as for extra rgb, that doesn't matter hopefully right?

[wintry forge]

as long as it plugs in, it doesn't matter

[quartz atlas]

pc parts are like legos

connectors only go in one component

[feral hill]

you absolute bitch

am i stupid or does it not fit

[quartz atlas]

flip it

its a long L shape

only goes in one way

[feral hill]

the L shape was a different cable

[quartz atlas]

that being said, i cant tell if its the correct cable

both should be a long L

sata is shorter

[feral hill]

the one on the right fits

but i unplugged it to try and get the left one to fit

[quartz atlas]

the is the power one

keyed only 1 way too

[feral hill]

it looks the same to me

[wintry forge]

oh woops

[feral hill]

am i plugging it in the wrong way or

[wintry forge]

yea this

[feral hill]

the big one says sata sv on it

guess it's not the right cable because it do not be fitting

damnit

[severe falcon]

nono its a male power cable

[inland marsh]

There's narrower SATA +5V only
considering it looks like only have 2 cables it might be one
although the connector itself is normal sata huh...

[severe falcon]

the HDD is male power connector and you have a male power cable

you said it was an RGB cable, so it would also plug into the actual cable you need to power the HDD

[feral hill]

oh...

well, this one fit but uhhhhh

i have a feeling it is not the right one

[wintry forge]

looks fine

[feral hill]

what the heck are all the other connectors on it

[wintry forge]

also you might've plugged in the small L shaped cable in the other way

[feral hill]

[inland marsh]

daisy chain cable

[wintry forge]

it will still work, but it'll be at an awkward angle

horaay for daisy chain

so much to cut costs

[feral hill]

okey so it's fine? i can try plugging it into the pc and making it somehow explode?

[inland marsh]

it looks neat if you have them all populated, looks shit otherwise

[feral hill]

fuck looks gimme space

[inland marsh]

should be fine

[feral hill]

do i have to do the bios thing if it's an extra hdd

[wintry forge]

you shouldn't have to

[feral hill]

okk

[wintry forge]

just plug in and access it through the os

if it doesn't show up as usable storage, you might have to format it but that's no big deal

[inland marsh]

should be no, but sometimes, maybe yes if your PC got confused if both have OS installation

[wintry forge]

unless the hdd itself is broken

[quartz atlas]

modern mobos should default to nvme

[wintry forge]

that doesn't happen often anymore

[quartz atlas]

im assuming your os is on a nvme

[feral hill]

i do not know

[inland marsh]

I'm not gonna assume what the boot precedence is on a prebuilt system

[wintry forge]

I mean if it's <1 year old I'd expect an nvme boot storage

else you just got completely ripped off

[feral hill]

stupid question but the hdd has plastic on it, should i keep that on or remove it

[wintry forge]

doesn't matter

[feral hill]

ok

[inland marsh]

You only need to get rid of it if you want to mount the HDD on a slot

[wintry forge]

we're just trying to move files right

[feral hill]

probably for now yeah

[wintry forge]

yeah just leave it as is

[feral hill]

i am lost in a forest of pc parts

where is the psu thing

[inland marsh]

zoom a bit out please

[wintry forge]

the psu is most likely in the back

[inland marsh]

...or behind that bottom metal cover

[wintry forge]

yep it's at the bottom

open up the case from the other side

[feral hill]

wuhuh??

sliding the glass pane off the side was easy enough to understand for my caveman brain

there's another opening??

[severe falcon]

yeah, do that, but on the other side of the case

all cases have two big doors

[wintry forge]

well, most diy ones
ah sorry ping

[quartz atlas]

that coke cameo

fluvee paid shill

[feral hill]

shhh

[wintry forge]

sponsored by coke i see

[feral hill]

the other side is screwed in with screws i can not unscrew, how lovely

[severe falcon]

they arent thumb screws?

[feral hill]

wtfak are thumb screws

[severe falcon]

ones meant to turn by hand

[wintry forge]

screws that you can also unscrew with your thumb

[feral hill]

they are sticking out like a sore thumb if that's whar you mean

[wintry forge]

yep

[feral hill]

okok

[wintry forge]

try unscrewing it with your hand

[severe falcon]

ye just turn those by hand

[feral hill]

my weak little girl hands, gimme like 15 minutes

[severe falcon]

they also should have a phillips head if you need to get it started

[inland marsh]

put a cloth if it hurts

[severe falcon]

i had one screw on my old case that refused to turn by hand

[feral hill]

fucking ouch

somewhere in here then?

[wintry forge]

oh hey it's a fully modular psu

das rare

anyways, if you can't find the long L cable in there, plug the 4 or 6 pin power connector that's on the long L cable to the psu and then set the hard drive somewhere

[severe falcon]

the empty box on the left is usually for hard drives, but it looks like the cage is missing so ???

[feral hill]

so the L cable plugged into the hdd

the other end only fits into something labelled as rgb in

is my hdd gonna start glowing rainbows

[wintry forge]

that'd be sick

but no

[severe falcon]

its literally just power

[feral hill]

ok so it'll be fine?

[severe falcon]

ye

[feral hill]

ok

moment of truth

[wintry forge]

get this

[feral hill]

ya that's plugged in

[wintry forge]

oh perfect

[feral hill]

it's so hard to reach in, the rgb thing is right at the back

nvm, doesn't fit, gonna cri

[severe falcon]

check if its the right way

[feral hill]

tried both ways, cable end is too big

[severe falcon]

what

like it has too many pins?

[feral hill]

idk, it's too wide or something

[severe falcon]

it should fit in one of the open slots

[severe falcon]

oh so yeah the RGB is the wrong one then

[feral hill]

the other end is meant to look like all those?

bweh...

ok back to step 1, finding a different cord

[severe falcon]

ye, how many pins are on the cable

cuz it looks correct

[quartz atlas]

rgb psu
fully covered

[wintry forge]

wasted electricity

they probably left this unplugged

or something

hopefully

[feral hill]

other end of the L cable looks like this

also no it does have rgb when it's on

alas i literally never see it

[wintry forge]

did you plug it in the motherboard

[feral hill]

it doesn't fit

[wintry forge]

okay, do this

[feral hill]

give up

ok

[wintry forge]

flip the cable the other way around

[feral hill]

they're both the same shape

[wintry forge]

no no, the angle is different

[feral hill]

ok i'll try

[wintry forge]

one's at a pi/2 radian while the other is just straight

[feral hill]

so plug the L shape into the mobo?

[wintry forge]

yep

[feral hill]

nope, still too wide

[wintry forge]

odd

like, very odd

these two right

[inland marsh]

can you take a pic of you just about to plug it in...

[feral hill]

it's kinda hard because my hand barely fits inside the opening to plug it in, let alone with my phone on top

[feral hill]

ya

[inland marsh]

wait, why do you even need to fit thru an opening?

[wintry forge]

yeah I'm wondering that too

it should have no issues going in

[feral hill]

... oh that's the motherboard?

fucking hell

[inland marsh]

what

[feral hill]

i've been trying to plug it into this

[wintry forge]

don't

it won't fit

the small L cable should only connect to the hard drive and the motherboard

the big L cable connects to the power supply and the hard drive

[feral hill]

ok well i've found my issue, i plugged it into the right thing and it indeed fits. i thought the thing at the bottom wss the motherboard

i sincerely apologise for being a pepega

[wintry forge]

the switcheroo

[wintry forge]

this thing in the back is the power supply

[feral hill]

ah yes it's all coming together now

now for the actual moment of truth

[wintry forge]

the square board in the front is the motherboard

[feral hill]

thankies for the edumacation, i didn't know this

oh my goodness it worked

thank you nerds so much and very sori if i gave any headaches

[worthy musk]

Did somebody say pepega

[feral hill]

nooo

[worthy musk]

I have been summoned

[rough sedge]

now this was an interesting read

[ebon mason]

oh no stock cooler

[hexed citrus]

it's a prebuilt

[rough sedge]

stock cooler just werks

you aren't gonna be overclocking a budget prebuilt so it being a stock cooler isn't really a problem

[wintry forge]

Nothing wrong with a stock cooler

[worthy musk]

Prebuilt casuals

[worthy musk]

Holy shit

Its here

Its real

[worthy musk]

Went from >60 fps to 400+ on minecraft

I dont own any decent benchmark games so

[wintry forge]

nice

[rough sedge]

My guy installed his cooler upside down 💀

¡ʇǝᴉnQ ǝq

[worthy musk]

Eh the fans on the correct side it should be fine

[rough sedge]

yeah the BeQuiet coolers work either way, but it's still funny to see

[worthy musk]

Il just get another bequiet sticker to cover it itll be fine

Noone will know its australian

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKiZymxDD8

[ebon mason]

https://blog.google/products/stadia/message-on-stadia-streaming-strategy/

[wintry forge]

I wish they offered a free charger and cable

and you can select to include or exclude out of the package

[versed blade]

[wintry forge]

the most powerful charging brick I own is rated at 15 watts for 2 slots

[ebon mason]

i have 1x 100W 2x 65W

and some old 15W like 3x

[versed blade]

cant wait google to kill android

[wintry forge]

actually I wish they did

I don't even know if google is the best developer for android

[versed blade]

It's not

1 enforce their apps into the system because screw the competition

[subtle hawk]

Not really, you can perfectly use a ROM without Gapps.

[subtle hawk]

A lot of these things weren't actually killed in 2021 what

[wintry forge]

up until 2021

[subtle hawk]

Why does it say 2013 then

That's just confusing

[versed blade]

I was trying to find the random meme

where it shows the entire list

https://killedbygoogle.com/

here

not the meme but the site I guess

[severe falcon]

i want to modify an ancient program, but it literally cannot run on any modern operating system. i have only gotten the program to work on dosbox, but googling doesnt seem to indicate you can use dosbox to do any amount of c programming in it

any ideas?

it has a make file, i just need to get something to be able to actually do the make file with the ancient libraries it calls for

[wintry forge]

these questions are great

[sudden raft]

clearly it is a rodent platform

[subtle hawk]

You can use DOSBox to code C, with TurboC.

[severe falcon]

Does that come with the ability to run a makefile? Cuz the coding part i can do just fine, but its the compiling thats the issue

[subtle hawk]

Is it really a Makefile though?

Because Makefile was only used in UNIX at that time.

[severe falcon]

It looks like a make file, its a .mak

Its some code from a floppy disc inside the cover of a graphics programming book from 1993

It makes pretty cool images, but im trying to get it to make HD resolution files

[hexed citrus]

that's a windows visual studio build script

a very old one

[severe falcon]

ok so how would i be able to run it

cuz the main issue is that it uses a standard library that only exists for dos graphics

which is why i had to run it on dosbox in the first place

[feral hill]

hello tech nerds am back i am bluescreening up the wazoo

what does unexpected_store_exception because i don't understand google, it happened like 3 times today

[quartz atlas]

storage crash

and judging by your recent activity

might be related to the hard drive you plugged in

or might be your original ssd failing as well

since normally, non-os drive crashes should not bring down your system

just back up your shit and rma the pc already

[inland marsh]

Can't you just open the file in a text editor and figure out what it really is by examining the content?
Even binary file (mostly) should have magic number somewhere

[feral hill]

what the fuck

thanks for the answer, that kinda sucks

[severe falcon]

the issue is not what the file is, it looks exactly like a makefile when i open it. the issue is that i need to be able to use it in some kind of dos environment, and want to know the easiest way to do that

[inland marsh]

Does it use specific library or what? no extant toolchain available?

[severe falcon]

its a standard library thats only for DOS, at least as far as i can tell

the compiled .exe file wont even run without dosbox

[hexed citrus]

dosbox is the only option nowadays

unless u want to run a full VM for FreeDOS

[severe falcon]

is there a way to get a C compiler and make on dosbox?

[hexed citrus]

you can get a cross platform buildtool

like GCC

keep in mind that the makefile you have won't work with anything but ancient visual studio

[inland marsh]

I'd assume it's written for 32bit?

[severe falcon]

was there 32 bit in 1993?

[hexed citrus]

inb4 8bit

yes

[severe falcon]

i mean i think its 32 bit, not entirely sure how to tell

[hexed citrus]

you need to disassemble the executable

and check the assembly to see what memory spaces it addressed

[severe falcon]

not sure how to do that, but does it matter?

[hexed citrus]

very much

8bit, 32bit and 64bit instructions vary a lot in the calls they do and what registers they access

[severe falcon]

found an online disassembly thing and it spit out this

along with another billion lines

[crystal sonnet]

can RAM defect cause random shutdowns and BSOD (the black variant)? or is it primarily a motherboard/VRM issue being old?

[wintry forge]

it can

there's a reason ecc memory is used in server systems

and yes ram can fail

and that can crash your system

[crystal sonnet]

hm, I did suspected that one of my RAM sticks is rather sus. since installing it I get crashes at times.
Plus it's not registering on the SPD tab on CPU-Z.

now it crashes every time I do something shaky with my potato laptop.

might get a new Hynix OEM-style sticks later.

[inland marsh]

Onboard soldered RAMs sometimes don't report or do partial report on SPD or SMBus
Needless to say it's a huge red flag if it's a stick RAM that do so

[versed blade]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-parliament-adopts-rules-common-charger-electronic-devices-2022-10-04/

[wintry forge]

Yay?

[versed blade]

yay

@hexed citrus

[hexed citrus]

whomst

[versed blade]

/r/homelab

but looks hella nice

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/xsm7op/finally_finished_my_homelab_diagram/

[hexed citrus]

it's aite

not that great

[versed blade]

I find it amusing

[inland marsh]

48 port switch, because why not
You'd think they at least use 10G for the trunk eh?

[hexed citrus]

I mean if they got a good deal on it

why not

[ebon mason]

transformers

[flint bobcat]

Jesus that looks overkill for a home network

[sudden raft]

even still has a old school linksys 54G lookalike

[inland marsh]

I think all of their OpenWRT line simply looks like that, or close to that

[hexed citrus]

I can't really talk shit much on it because mine is even more ridiculous

[mental coyote]

Pls. We both know yer building Skynet, Yamato.

[hexed citrus]

not wrong

I already have a satellite uplink and everything

[sudden raft]

FOG_elonmusk

[hexed citrus]

I'm not as dumb as him pls

[sudden raft]

[ebon mason]

BIG CHUNGA

[shut sapphire]

Fuck Intel arc required 10th gen cpu for maximum usage

Great job intel

Im gonna ditch out my i5 3rd gen

🙂

[wintry forge]

or just

not buy arc

[kind rivet]

might also need high power supply

dont buy

[shut sapphire]

Nah

Im not buying arc

They make cheap gpu so they can buy their cpu

[hexed citrus]

ppl want the performance of a 4090 at the price of integrated graphics

that ain't happening

and consider that this is the first gen of dedicated graphics from intel

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N371iMe_nfA

GLUE

[kind rivet]

rip

[ebon mason]

More like double sided tape

xD

only back

[kind rivet]

[ebon mason]

base plate

screws

base plate

places

[kind rivet]

they taped a lot inside

[ebon mason]

soo if u wanna change thermal paste

after few years

good luck

xD

[kind rivet]

[shut sapphire]

My cpu cant use the full potential of arc gpu

[ebon mason]

my too

i have i7 9700kf

i9 9900k cant too

[ebon mason]

problem is plugs to leds fans etc

have like 6/7

xD

[shut sapphire]

There's a rumour that rebar support gen 8-9 is available on their mobo

[ebon mason]

i have the newest bios

what this crap what this gpu need

this settings

anyone remember?

[shut sapphire]

??

[ebon mason]

u need turn on this

to have full power

[shut sapphire]

Yes

[ebon mason]

dont remember name of it

[shut sapphire]

What mobo are u using

[ebon mason]

z370

[shut sapphire]

Asus ??

[ebon mason]

asrock

[shut sapphire]

Search on google z370 rebar support

And go to their official site

You still can use arc without rebar support but idk how many losses for not using rebar@ebon mason

[ebon mason]

z490min

and thaichi

dont have C.A.M.

in bios

[shut sapphire]

😬

[ebon mason]

dont care

i have more powerfull gpu

than A770

have rtx 3070

[shut sapphire]

Idk how much the losses for not using rebar

Probably it will match gtx 1050 without rebar

[ebon mason]

its weird

nvidia dont need it

and amd

[ebon mason]

it was top of the z490

what cost like 2x than mine

In 2019

[shut sapphire]

[ebon mason]

For AsRock z370 Extreme4 i pay only 145 Euro

now new intel extreme is like

2x more

315Euro

my bios

2019

Me like it

these are 2 companies that only sell electronic equipment in my country

they go out into the world

GOOD

its EU soo we have tax inside

23%

without RBG cheaper

41.50 Euro

10Euro for extra RBG

[kind rivet]

well

thats quite affordable

[ebon mason]

THATS ALL

PWN settings

Prime 95

15min

[kind rivet]

i feel like scammed when was buying cooler

the shops says this is the only one that compatible for your cpu

[ebon mason]

I wanted to buy be quiet but they wrote back to me after 3 days that they didn't have one and if I wanted another one for an extra fee

[kind rivet]

cost like double from navis

[ebon mason]

and i have now

[kind rivet]

silent loop 2?

[ebon mason]

be quiet! Silent Loop 2 360mm yee

[kind rivet]

yee

[ebon mason]

3 the most popular AIO

here in this shop

AIR

it will be this new brand

they change name soon

[kind rivet]

[ebon mason]

TDP 95W hahaha

in Prime95

Unlocked full CPU

260-270W

i know TDP is not how much cpu use

but still

[ebon mason]

hwinfo

4.0

16GT/S

wtf is this

[kind rivet]

i think thats your bandwith transfer

[ebon mason]

just card

support 4.0

thats all

[kind rivet]

ye

[ebon mason]

i ask in LTT

XD

nowe we have pcie 5.0

and new ssd soon

samsung 990 evo

soon

i have 2 970 evo

[wintry forge]

not sure why anyone would need anything faster than a pcie 3.0 ssd

[ebon mason]

PS5 duno why need xD

"need"

[kind rivet]

im not realy sure about my ssd either

[hexed citrus]

awwww yiiis, naked PSUs

[wintry forge]

I didn't know HyperX was a HP brand

[ebon mason]

i have hyperx keyboard

[wintry forge]

I ordered a hyperx mouse pad that's arriving in about a week from now

[ebon mason]

Its sick new new org one PS5 PSU cost like 1/2 price of PS5

he try fix it

but imposible

soo he mod ps5

external power supply ps5

cheaper

[ebon mason]

looks old

[hexed citrus]

they're not that old

[wintry forge]

there's certainly is a lot of dust

[hexed citrus]

because they have absolutely no filtering what so ever

[inland marsh]

Industrial PSU do look like that, even new

Granted I don't think I ever see that kind of green polyester caps anymore in the last decades

[quartz atlas]

directstorage, also ssd goes brrrrrrrr

[wintry forge]

not even direct storage

it's not going to make any game breaking difference

[hexed citrus]

it will

[quartz atlas]

hehe ssd goes brrrr

[rough sedge]

I got two Gen4 SSDs running in Meme0 for my C drive

drive responsiveness is on point

[wintry forge]

Same with pcie gen 3 ssd

[sudden raft]

are you telling me you wouldn't

[wintry forge]

Yeah I wouldn't

Sure, it's faster. But if it's only going to decrease loading times by a few seconds, it doesn't seem that important

[sudden raft]

ever tried dealing with like ten tracks of 200Mbps video

[sudden raft]

it wasn't
that was very recent

i suppose they figured if kingston didn't want to keep the name it might as well sit decent next to "hp"

hp HX totally makes sense

[sudden raft]

does this like
specify fan %s

because i wouldn't care if that thing makes a 70 decibel racket

[rough sedge]

idk, to me a few seconds saved every couple hours will add up eventually

[hexed citrus]

you'll still waste those saved seconds on discord or watching youtube videos

the real benefit of PCIe 4.0 storage isn't something consumers rn can take advantage of

[rough sedge]

wasted time on youtube =/= wasted time looking at a loading screen

[hexed citrus]

alt tab is a thing

[rough sedge]

you're right it is a thing

but why would I when I can just have it load faster

[hexed citrus]

obv once texture streaming tech gets added to games then PCIe 4.0 storage will make sense

[rough sedge]

it's like the argument people made 10 years ago of "I don't need one of these SATA SSDs; I just turn the computer on, make coffee and come back"
yes you can do that, but why tho

[hexed citrus]

since that will give a huge benefit compared to traditional loading

[hexed citrus]

no it's not

[rough sedge]

well yes it is

[hexed citrus]

there's a difference between loading 2 min and loading 2 seconds

there is no difference between loading 2 seconds and 1.85 seconds

[kind rivet]

well

just drop it alrd

everyoner has personal preference

[rough sedge]

pretty much this

[hexed citrus]

it's not about preference

[rough sedge]

it all comes down to how you value your time

[hexed citrus]

it's about wasting money for something you can't really utilize to its fullest potential

[rough sedge]

clearly I value my time more, and that's fine we're all different

[hexed citrus]

it would be like buying a F1 car to go to work

sure it goes fast

but from home to work you won't have any opportunity to go that fast

[rough sedge]

you're now making the same flawed argument that you accused me of

I tried to equate a 2 minute time saving to a 2 second time saving, now you're comparing a $3k expense to a $30m expense

[hexed citrus]

it's the same thing

you're paying twice as much for a 2% perf increase

[rough sedge]

I mean personally I make good use out of the sequential workloads

[hexed citrus]

if you were doing say idk, data science or video editing sure it would benefit that workload because it shaves off a lot of time

[rough sedge]

so a 4x in sequential speeds was well worth 1.5x the price

[hexed citrus]

but to game or browse the web? makes absolutely no difference

perceivable difference that is

[rough sedge]

if we compare my two drives to a single Gen3 with the same capacity, the price is basically the same lmao (Localised pricing in AUD)

there is an argument to be made that 4TB is far from what a normal consumer would buy

but like the other dude said, everyone has different needs and preferences

[quartz atlas]

Do i need a pcie5 ssd? Nah, absolutely not. But do I want one? Fuck yes.

[hexed citrus]

I got some kioxia SSDs

the bigboi ones

[quartz atlas]

Ssd goes brrrrrrrr

I'm still on gen3

[hexed citrus]

they're used to feed the GPUs when they're crunching through datasets or rendering shit

[quartz atlas]

Imma upgrade to gen4 when I get my gpu

[hexed citrus]

and run my databases

[inland marsh]

I hope there's successor to optane-tier storage

[hexed citrus]

there isn't

intel nuked it

[quartz atlas]

Use your ram as storage

[hexed citrus]

bcz very low demand

[quartz atlas]

Wym u a broke fuck who can't afford 16tb of ram

[rough sedge]

Samsung have been screwing around with a similar technology

[quartz atlas]

[hexed citrus]

doe I still have some optane modules laying around as the L1 cache

[rough sedge]

though I've been out of the SSD game for a long time

so I don't know what ever happened to it

[inland marsh]

I know SSD is good enough for my usecase, but seeing it thrashed is still somewhat unsettling to me

[rough sedge]

idk how but at some point I found myself in a Discord server for storage engineers and journalists

they are a wealth of knowledge

[hexed citrus]

my main SSD in the gaming rig is a gen3 as well

has about 60 TB written to it

[rough sedge]

yeah see that's the only issue I have with my storage solution

you can't gather any drive health info from a NVME RAID

so I have no idea how these little guys are doing

[hexed citrus]

well yeah if you use hardware RAID like the people from the 2000s

[inland marsh]

RAID? LOL, use ZFS instead

[hexed citrus]

yeah ZFS is good civ

[inland marsh]

But for real tho, M$ gatekeeping ReFS is

[rough sedge]

Zero-bitches
File
System

miss me

[hexed citrus]

my main storage cluster runs nested raidz2

[rough sedge]

I'm tempted to get some ghetto ass used enterprise SSDs from ebay just for my personal system so I can replace the HDDs

[hexed citrus]

buys gen4 ssd for shits and giggles
can't buy some proper hard drives

[rough sedge]

I got two memegate 8tb drives because they were really cheap and they didn't need to be reliable

but they're too loud for my personal system

[sudden raft]

i just wish the SN850X existed when i got mine because i really was on the fence for a pair of 4TB FC530s

https://twitter.com/lab8010/status/1577975159675228160

Yamato@DellTech/VMware黒本著者/Azureもやる予定 (@lab8010)

これ、Windowsのパソコンを管理する人は知っておいた方がいい。

最近、パソコンのマザーボード交換をすると交換後に下図のように他社の名前が表示される事例がある。
これは特定条件で発生する(Dellだけでなく業界全体)
詳細は以下URL内を参照頂きたい。
https://t.co/p8Q41N9N7k

Twitter · Oct 6, 2022, 10:52 AM

[sudden raft]

can't be me contemplating adding a third 8TB

[wintry forge]

oh okay the mousepad arrived in a terrible condition

ripped box, mouse pad is stained, edges are frayed, seems like it has been returned several times considering the box with the mousepad has tons of stickers and tape

think I'll return

so much for "new condition" mouse pad

[wintry forge]

the seller should just throw it away at this point

[wintry forge]

definitely not a consumer product

[sudden raft]

considering the 4090's TGP is more than the xboss does that really surprise you

the average gaming notebook fits under a 200W envelope

[subtle hawk]

Having purchased the Series S yesterday, it looks like a small toy when sitting next to my PS5

So can imagine the RTX 4090 being a chungus

[subtle hawk]

Edit: The ROG Strix 4090 looks like a London double decker bus, wtf is that

[hexed citrus]

@versed blade @quartz atlas this yubikey offer is based af

https://yamato.azurlane.moe/media/97ljs.png

[sudden raft]

do E-key 2230 SSDs exist

[hexed citrus]

no

E key is reserved for wireless cards

like WiFi or LTE

[rough sedge]

Not with that attitude

[hexed citrus]

he asked for SSDs

[rough sedge]

and I responded with a joke

[hexed citrus]

you post a mM.2 to mPCIe adaptor

shit joke

[rough sedge]

well that's just rude

give me enough time and obscure Aliexpress adapters, I shall interconnect the entire world

[ebon mason]

asrock had an interesting idea on how to inform people about how mount RAM

[ebon mason]

Asrock new nvme cooler

with taichi mobo

[wintry forge]

Concerning

[hexed citrus]

yeah using a paper sticker on the RAM slots is a bad idea

should've used a laminated or vinyl sticker

[sudden raft]

i suppose it's not very cheap or environmentally friendly

but if i really wanted to do that i would've made a plastic or something hard slot protector piece

with said text printed on

[wintry forge]

how about

just labeling it 1 2 3 4

directly on the motherboard

[sudden raft]

as much as i would find that an appealing idea
especially if they can mark it on the clips or something

have you seen a lot of novice builders who understand what 2 4 1 3 would be

[wintry forge]

I would assume they're smart enough to know

it's pretty straightforward from my perspective

[hexed citrus]

what kind of slot

for RAM?

[sudden raft]

i thought that was the topic yes

[hexed citrus]

nah a vinyl or laminated sticker is as cheap as a paper one

[sudden raft]

it's probably kind of redundant though since boards usually ship in like
idk

a formed blister plastic piece

[hexed citrus]

the difference is like 0.001 cents between them

[sudden raft]

vinyl would be an infinitely better choice than a paper sticker because it would at least be less likely to tear

but even then i really dont think it's a good choice to have a sticker of any kind on those things

[hexed citrus]

a laminated sticker is basically a paper sticker but coated with a special coating

magazines are made from the same kind of paper

[versed blade]

@hexed citrus

it's a good day

[hexed citrus]

you still didn't finish the NAS btw

[versed blade]

SHHHHHHHHH

This weekend

maybe

but I have to catch up with some gym sesh I missed (Thursday was friend birthday drinks and friday I was dead)

[ebon mason]

30Euro Versand xDDD

WTF

shipping from US to EU cost like this

[ebon mason]

• shipping 2euro

xD

50Euro less

total

or it for 2?

[versed blade]

yeah 2

[ebon mason]

good price

but shipping price is joke

[versed blade]

it's cheaper than UK prices

[ebon mason]

here its 100EURO

[versed blade]

even with shipping

[ebon mason]

for 1

[versed blade]

been looking at these for months

[ebon mason]

but shipping 2euro

to parcel lockers

2euro

[versed blade]

Yeah but I am not ordering from within the same country

I think Germany to UK or something

I am just happy I got those

[ebon mason]

ahh we have cheaper from german

i have 400km to german

[sudden raft]

edgy

[subtle hawk]

shipping is quite expensive ngl

[versed blade]

That is true

but better than any other prices in UK

in UK one of them costs around £100

got 2 of these for like £140 shipping included?

[subtle hawk]

that does sound a good deal

[versed blade]

literally these are impossible to find retail price

[subtle hawk]

How good is the Coral compared to say a GPU doing ML calculations

[hexed citrus]

not good

[versed blade]

I'd say better in every way to be honest. Much cheaper, low consumption, but you cannot expect the same amount of calcs a dedicated GPU can do

[hexed citrus]

a TPU is to run already existing AI models

training them on one and testing is pain

[versed blade]

tbh already doing training and testing on a 2080ti in 2020 was a pain

never again

[hexed citrus]

well AI isn't done on one GPU

my art generator AI model is trained rn with 8 GPUs

[versed blade]

not rich enough to afford more than 1 gpi

[hexed citrus]

4 quadros, 2 teslas, 3090 and 4090

[versed blade]

rich

https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

@subtle hawk

also found the bible

literally forgot this existed

[subtle hawk]

If you still use IRC, I recommend The Lounge

[versed blade]

not anymore

back in the day IRC was nice to use

now I do not see a reason I personally need it

[subtle hawk]

Oh yeah, 12 years ago, I was on an IRC channel for old software

though I pretty much looked like a fucking idiot back then lol

[versed blade]

I think back then I used HeX

[subtle hawk]

But that channel and website for old software fueled my interests in servers, network, etc

[versed blade]

put you on the right path

[subtle hawk]

yep it did

[versed blade]

now that I slept, I need to find a kanban board

[subtle hawk]

Specifically, I had a thing with beta versions of Windows

[versed blade]

we already using beta of Windows

[subtle hawk]

Before the insiders program existed, Microsoft didn't really let the public see what they're working on

[versed blade]

That is true

[subtle hawk]

So it was fun seeing beta versions of XP, 7, Vista, 8, etc. being leaked

[versed blade]

but windows will always be beta

[subtle hawk]

I remember when Windows 8 was in development

[versed blade]

ughhh

[subtle hawk]

Lots of people were excited

but it ended up in disappointment UI wise

[versed blade]

Yeah very true

[subtle hawk]

I find Windows 11 funny sometimes

the new UI made it look like a new version of Windows, but underneath is still the same NT 10.0 kernel that powers Windows 10

[versed blade]

I tried W11

like 1 week ago

looks nice

hate everything else

[subtle hawk]

It's nice tbh

especially WSA

[versed blade]

I could not find a way to put the taskbar at the top

[hexed citrus]

you can't

[subtle hawk]

I wanted Windows 11 on my work computer but since I'm now also working on iOS apps, my work is planning to give me a Macbook M1

[versed blade]

actually garbage

[hexed citrus]

https://yamato.azurlane.moe/media/fgbq7.png

[subtle hawk]

the current Mac I'm using is so fucking slow, it's from 2014 and still has an HDD

[versed blade]

yeah MacOS way to go

just waiting for my new iphone

[hexed citrus]

I have a 2015 macbook pro

[versed blade]

in the meantime gotta say pixel 6a like the pixel 6 series has a shitty fp

[hexed citrus]

that I dust off from time to time when I need something macOS/iOS related

[subtle hawk]

fp?

[versed blade]

[versed blade]

fingerprint

[subtle hawk]

ah

[versed blade]

its full of issues

[subtle hawk]

I don't use fingerprint anyways so nothing loss lol

[versed blade]

I thought it was my phone but looks like some software stuff

got slighlty better with sep and oct patch

but still

[hexed citrus]

in screen fingerprint sensors are still garbage

[versed blade]

Yeah

[subtle hawk]

After using both iOS and Android, I can say that there is no superior phone OS

[versed blade]

well obv

just use what you find comfortable

[hexed citrus]

I still think iOS is absolute garbage

[subtle hawk]

though, the best Android ROM for me is from Google (Pixel) and Graphene

followed by Samsung

[versed blade]

I just got fed up with fiddling with Android but I still want it as there are things I want on android

[hexed citrus]

samsung really stepped up their game in terms of their android skin starting with the S9

[versed blade]

nah even before that

since they abandoned touchwiz

[hexed citrus]

nah

samsung experience was god awful as well

[versed blade]

OneUI 1.0 was already great imo

[subtle hawk]

Samsung has also stepped up with the updates

[hexed citrus]

I mean

rn samsung is the 2nd biggest contributor to android

1st one obv being google

[versed blade]

I was using OneUI on my note 8 and was great

still going strong

[subtle hawk]

My Note 2 still works

[versed blade]

cant wait for google to get fined more by the EU

no more preinstalled gapps

[hexed citrus]

but like in S9 line they improved it even more, added proper DeX, added my phone and metric shit ton of optimizations

[versed blade]

ah yes yes

I do remember that

[hexed citrus]

I mean ffs

[subtle hawk]

how is dex nowadays

[hexed citrus]

samsung is the one that revived wear OS

[hexed citrus]

imagine chromeOS but on ur phone

[subtle hawk]

Oh, that sounds quite good tbh

[versed blade]

they gave up on tizenOS?

[hexed citrus]

ye

[versed blade]

makes sense

[hexed citrus]

like 3 generations ago

[versed blade]

neat

[hexed citrus]

now they all come with wear OS

which was made in partnership with google

[subtle hawk]

I think all the other Linux-based mobile OS apart from Android are now either abandoned or in maintenance mode

[hexed citrus]

so it uses the tizen components for watch faces and such

but runs android under the hood

[subtle hawk]

idk what my Samsung TV runs, but it's not Android for sure

bought last 2020

[hexed citrus]

Tizen TV

[subtle hawk]

Ah

[versed blade]

I am thinking to buy a smart tv this year

gotta think which one though

[subtle hawk]

I miss dumb TVs

[versed blade]

I have a samsung tv from like 2012

with a firestick

PLASMA

mfw i see the bill

[subtle hawk]

lmao

[hexed citrus]

I have currently a samsung 8K TV

[subtle hawk]

LED TVs are amazing tbh

[hexed citrus]

replaced my old LG OLED

[versed blade]

100% OLED or MicroLED

if I find anything

[hexed citrus]

quantum dot OLED

[versed blade]

is there any reason to have that over microLED?

[hexed citrus]

that's like the top shelf stuff

yes

it combines the power of QD and OLED

[versed blade]

It still gets burns in though

[hexed citrus]

with none of the drawbacks

since the OLED layer is used more as a backlight

rather than display the image

[versed blade]

Hmm I remember researching them when they first came out but that was ages ago

[hexed citrus]

so no burn-in

[versed blade]

Will need to have a look again

[hexed citrus]

https://yamato.azurlane.moe/media/yyhm9.png

almost done

[versed blade]

Planning to deploy this

[hexed citrus]

so trello but selfhosted

[versed blade]

ew trello

[versed blade]

I wish JIRA had a selfhost version

Jira so clean

[hexed citrus]

use the cloud version

don't become the privacy lunatic

[versed blade]

I just dont want to pay

also I do not think you can have JIRA for personal use

[hexed citrus]

you can

[versed blade]

Oh neat there is a free version

2GB limit though

[sudden raft]

new qd-oled tv is very much fine yes

even got a 65% off soundbar with it

[versed blade]

Testing it now. But probably will migrate to TaigaNext when it gets released

[rough sedge]

it can be done with a simple registry edit, though it can induce slight jank that I still haven't bothered to sort out yet

[rough sedge]

^

clicking the windows icon opens the start menu on the top-left instead of top-centre

but apart from that it seems to work well

[ebon mason]

600W

[versed blade]

garbage os

got it

[flint bobcat]

thanks this is useful for my new server

[hexed citrus]

proceeds to install a ton of shit on the server, still goes back to cloud based products

[flint bobcat]

nah i actually dont need that much stuff

most important ones are blue iris and home assistant

[rough sedge]

I wouldn't call it any worse than Windows 10, which too is fairly garbage

So if you can cope with Windows 10 then Windows 11 shouldn't be a downgrade

[quartz atlas]

literally runs faster

[wintry forge]

windows 7 is a pretty good upgrade

[versed blade]

nah garbage os

[versed blade]

yeah pretty neat

[rough sedge]

Maybe on Intel

[quartz atlas]

amd too

and its not maybe

[rough sedge]

Yeah I was referencing back to when Windows 11 first came out and the scheduler had a massive bias towards Intel lol

And AMD L3 cache latency was for some reason over 3x higher in Windows 11 vs 10

[quartz atlas]

well ye, intel has a majority market share, its pretty much a given that they would be given priority for optimizations

[rough sedge]

oh definitely but the fact that AMD performance dropped by up to 15% compared to W10 is pretty abhorrent

at least it was fixed eventually

[versed blade]

Win11 garbo until they remove the mandatory always online, force me to have an MS account, and let me get my taskbar at the top without many shenanigans

idk what other crap decision they have made

[quartz atlas]

always online?

[versed blade]

well dont you need like internet connection to login now that the OS requires ms login?

[quartz atlas]

erm no

it requires internet connection on setup cuz ms account

not that u have to be connected to internet 24/7

[versed blade]

still internet for set up

[quartz atlas]

ye, you can bypass it tho with cmd

you shouldnt have to

but it is what it is

[versed blade]

yeah

ik

[quartz atlas]

but ramzh

[versed blade]

the illusion of choice

[quartz atlas]

HDR Hutao

[versed blade]

I know

[quartz atlas]

[versed blade]

dont get me wrong

i do like win11

it brings interesting stuff

but the changes they made are kinda a deal breaker for me

[subtle hawk]

Drag n drop being axed off, but they're bringing it back

[versed blade]

and i cba asked to fiddle with windows just to be able to login

what

they removed dnd>

lmao

[subtle hawk]

Yeah

[quartz atlas]

i wont say removed, they just never had it in the first place for w11 afaik

so now they have that again

[versed blade]

[subtle hawk]

Actually this yeah. Out of the box it wasn't there

[versed blade]

ms low key making their own linux spin and gonna push that on consumer instead

big brain plan

[subtle hawk]

Regular consumer won't know the method, but putting the ISO through Rufus, has the option to completely skip the MS account part and go with local account instead

[versed blade]

ah yees

i read about it

ms being pepega as always

[subtle hawk]

Anyways, having purchased Xbox Series S (as very first Xbox mind you), this is such a neat little console, I love it

[quartz atlas]

regular consumers wont care about setting up an account anyway

i worked in frontline for tech b4

they just do whatever i tell them to do

[subtle hawk]

Nice little emulation machine as well, runs PS2 titles easily without a hitch

[rough sedge]

Yeah I just did the Rufus method

Arguably easier than M$ official method

[sudden raft]

i kind of want a xbox series just for original xbox emulation

[ebon mason]

only gpu

RTX 4090

W

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60yFji_GKak

[kind rivet]

1000w psu

[ebon mason]

take less power than 3090ti

[kind rivet]

yeah

its surprising

[ebon mason]

IF someone watch LTT video they dont show true fps in CP2077

they need fix it