technology

[odd juniper]

@versed blade

[versed blade]

welcome to the server world

and now you reminded me this weekend I should work on mine

[odd juniper]

Also I've a question

[versed blade]

which is?

[odd juniper]

well u see

so i bought a 2nd hand switch

2,5gb but i can't find any data of it

[versed blade]

as in switch for network switch?

[odd juniper]

[versed blade]

why would you find data in a switch

[odd juniper]

wat

i meant like

google

[versed blade]

ah

[odd juniper]

netgear ms305e

[versed blade]

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/gs305e.aspx

[odd juniper]

that

is

gs

I said MS

[versed blade]

I wonder if the version name changes based on region

[odd juniper]

but if that changes

why cant i find anything

[versed blade]

because the only one with the MS is the dutch one

[odd juniper]

hm

[versed blade]

idk dont ask me

[odd juniper]

[versed blade]

I know some camera do have the same issue

e.g. Rebel and 200D

[odd juniper]

with name schemes?

[versed blade]

yeah

pretty much same camera different name

[odd juniper]

Like i bought and he said, well you're prob the first one who has it here

[versed blade]

Hmmmm

[odd juniper]

He said they come out in like half a year

is it like a preprod model?

anyways if it works fine im happy with it

[versed blade]

good

I should upgarde too

at some point

but eh

[odd juniper]

meh i only bought it

so ican transfer faster between the nas

[versed blade]

yeah thats the main reason I want one

[odd juniper]

current cap is like 110.

[versed blade]

neat

I am still stuck at 1GbE

I should get NICs for desktop and server

[odd juniper]

yes same my pc supports 2,5 though

[inland marsh]

Pretty sure GS is Gigabit

MS for 2.5G, and FS for 100M

there's methods to this madness

[subtle hawk]

Won't sell in US from what I've heard, though I'm switching to Samsung in August anyways

I'm done with off-brands that no one cares about

[ebon mason]

its weird why they dont sell in US

it big market

and small market like my country sells normally

[subtle hawk]

Well it's first phone by Carl Pei after leaving OnePlus so it appears that he's testing the grounds first, from what I can tell

But either way, personally, not interested

[ebon mason]

price of Nothing Ear (1) ANC drops too

they are popular here

[subtle hawk]

They don't ship them over here so not interested

[ebon mason]

Some shops will sell in US

[subtle hawk]

Well I'm not in US

So there's that

[ebon mason]

i am not too

xD

[inland marsh]

$500 for SD778G, lol

[ebon mason]

520$ cost Zenfone 8 with 888 snap

here

[sudden raft]

so much hype over nothing

it's literally nothing

[kindred arrow]

I actually like the aesthetics of the Nothing Phone (1) but no smartphone company is gonna outperform Google in terms of proper software support

Sure, Apple has a very extensive software support for older iPhones but obviously no one wants iPhones unless if you live in reality, in which iPhones still sell and maintains a massive marketshare in many first world countries, because of everything to do with marketing

And thus, this is why I recommend people (who already upgraded their phones in the first place) to not buy a new phone every 2 years, just use it as long as possible

Just decide on what phone you think is best, don't fall from the mob mentality of fanboys

And, at the very least, don't fall for online hype. You will never know if the phone that gets hyped a lot may have too much bloatware and ads in it behind our backs (and cheaper phones are guilty of this btw), or if the software may be half baked, doesn't get enough updates or with poor quality control (as certain OnePlus phones are unfortunately guilty of that too)

Okay, rant over

[mental coyote]

I decided a while ago to stick with Pixels. Ain't many phones with that combo of custom rom work and a relockable bootloader.

Plus, Graphene runs nice AF.

[kindred arrow]

I can relock my Poco X3 bootloader... But absolutely only on stock MIUI

Because signature signing is only handled by Xiaomi themselves and not us

[mental coyote]

Never had a chance to mess with MIUI.

[kindred arrow]

Yeah, I already got tired of it, decided to just put a custom rom in it

[versed blade]

I am gonna buy an iphone and use my OnePlus 7 Pro as secondary phone

rooted probably

everyone I know is running iphone for at least 4+ years

thats way better than any android phone ngl

[subtle hawk]

Samsung is the only one currently getting 4 years of support on Android

Even Google's Pixel lineup only gets 3

[mental coyote]

3 for OS, 5 for security updates. At least for the Tensor models.

I'd agree that OS updates could be longer, since they're no longer beholden to Qualcomm.

[versed blade]

the issue with android is fragmentation

everyone does what the hell they want without a set of standards

[kindred arrow]

Google did have a set of standards and guidelines on how to sell an Android phone, but it's usually just expecting phonemakers outside China to bundle Google's software, not expecting longterm android updates

And because software development in general costs money, a lot of manufacturers just cheapen out on software development in order to sell a phone quickly

which is where you get phones that will never ever get a single software update ever

[subtle hawk]

On a personal note, I can't wait to abandon this OnePlus that I'm using

Never fucking again with this brand, like.. ever

[versed blade]

oh same

oneplus 7 pro is my last OP

never again

[mental coyote]

Man. Are OPs really that bad?

[subtle hawk]

Mine had a multitude of issues

Still has in fact

[versed blade]

yeah now

used to be good

[mental coyote]

Maybe that explains why Carl Pei noped out.

[subtle hawk]

The biggest issue that I have with my OP 8 Pro (have mentioned it iirc) is that the charging port has completely screwed itself.
It won't do fast charge at all (different cables tried), takes over 10 hours to get to 100% and also none of the PCs will detect it when plugged in

[mental coyote]

[worthy musk]

Kinda dumb question

It it possible to patch a physical umd disc for a psp

Id love to get a copy of steins gate running on it

[subtle hawk]

Doubt it

Also, what do you mean by patch in that context?

[hexed citrus]

as in change the language to english

because S:G on psp was never released in the west

[subtle hawk]

Can't do that with UMDs iirc

[hexed citrus]

obv not

they're read only

[subtle hawk]

Yeah, though it's probably against the rules to mention what you can do with a PSP though

[hexed citrus]

you can't

the disk drive in the PSP is read only

the laser doesn't have enough power to actually burn the disk

and you'd need UMD blanks to write a patched ISO

and since they're obsolete you won't find any

[subtle hawk]

That's absolutely not my point that I'm trying to make

[hexed citrus]

you mean ripping UMDs? why would that be against the rules

I dumped all of my UMDs to the SD card before they became unreadable

[subtle hawk]

Because I don't know if mods are against discussing that here

[inland marsh]

While makes perfect sense, I don't think right for archival is universally recognized

[ebon mason]

woooo

5.92 inch

jerry show this """""1 inch""""""""""" sensor in smartphones

\

[inland marsh]

Everyone knows that 1" format doesn't actually have 1" diagonal, duh

Good rule of thumb is that the actual diagonal is 2/3 of the stated format

[sudden raft]

i dont even know what im looking at without context

[inland marsh]

The ubiquitous 35mm film format for example only have 27.2mm diagonal

1" format usually have ~16mm diagonal, which is about the correct size for the images above

[sudden raft]

i must have something miscalculating then because according to this

a 36x24mm sensor has a diagonal of 43.27

35mm film is 35mm wide including its guide holes

either way 1 inch sensors historically have been 13.2x8.8mm (~16mm diagonal) as a weird holdover from one inch CRTs apparently

if the IMX989 is still 13.2x8.8 then this image is probably misleading

i don't think the 989 is listed in sony semicon's public catalogue so i wouldn't be able to get an official confirmation

that said a "1"" sensor isn't much smaller than a micro-four thirds

[ebon mason]

inside

[wintry forge]

I might buy it

I phone that has my sim (a random motorola phone) is so big I have to use both hands to hold it

not to mention it's so slim that it could fall out of my hands at any time

actually no

zenfone 9 is bigger than I expected

it's the same size as this phone

I'll stick with my sony xz2 compact ig

[inland marsh]

something like Xiaomi Qin2 looks like decent concept, too bad it isn't really catches

[wintry forge]

I just need a small phone that can make phone calls and play azur lane

it doesn't help that my service provider shut down all 3g networks

[inland marsh]

I just need a phone that I don't have to constantly worried breaking it in my pocket. I do mountaineering a lot, and "rugged" phones these days are absolutely huge

[wintry forge]

true

I expected the duraforce to be small

it's quite larger than I thought

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l48vP7qbumw

[sudden raft]

have RAM will use

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbM0bydWWM

[sudden raft]

should i get a 6900XT to use as a second GPU

[versed blade]

why though?

do you have any reason for it?

[sudden raft]

offloading certain tasks and it has more vram

[versed blade]

I mean if it's sensible for you what you're doing then sure

[sudden raft]

some programs like radeons more than geforces

but having both might just be a recipe for lots of wonderful driver conflicts

but nvidia hard blocked quadro geforce mixes

whereas amd + nvidia multi card still works most of the time apparently

i suppose though since ek does have a decent block for the A6000 i could just swap for one of those-

but i guess an entire second gpu could serve the side displays and vts and what not without needing resources from primary

[wintry forge]

I don't know many things that use a lot of vram

[sudden raft]

for one thing
i'm running 13.1mp of displays while streaming near-4K
and it turns out newer games and their texture packs are way more VRAM then i have

[wintry forge]

you do you

still waiting for gtx 1050 ti price to drop below $80 on used market

[sudden raft]

far cry 6 needs more than 10GB for its texture pack

[subtle hawk]

May sound stupid but don't have the issues like that on PS5 where I have to think about VRAM usage and all

[sudden raft]

one of the few perks of a console

[sudden raft]

who wants a depressing throwback

[idle lark]

its not just more depressing its more violent

[odd juniper]

Great apparently they pulled the plug at one of our locations without telling us. For power maintenance unfortunately the fuckinh server died as a result

[inland marsh]

Who the fuck run server without UPS

[odd juniper]

Apparently that company

[sudden raft]

maybe they preferred federal express electricity

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUFasnyaaag

[wintry forge]

you don't have to show us every linus video

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm confused about these new asus gaming laptop.
they upgraded the cooling but still didn't give 100% srgb screen

and pls a usable hdd slot. the slot is there but unsable just because 0.2 mm interference

[inland marsh]

It still comes with HDD slot?

[gloomy tinsel]

yes but unusable also doesn't come with the hdd dock screws and the connector

[inland marsh]

Sounds like typical asus chassis with proprietary ribbon SATA

[gloomy tinsel]

He upgraded from his old FX505 series. so He tried the ribbon into the new one, the ribbon reached but the SATA HDD doesn't fit

[inland marsh]

how it doesn't fit? z-height?

[sudden raft]

even with slimmer ones? maybe it's designed for ssds

like maybe a 2.5 inch SSD fits inside

[gloomy tinsel]

because battery were a bit bigger than last model. clamshell body still the same

they even doesn't give HDD screw + connector

its last year FX506 model

i5 11400H 3050ti

how it should be

[inland marsh]

Lol, all that freed space and they still use 48Wh battery

Can't MacGyver either since there's no SATA header in the first place

Unless you use one of those M.2 to SATA breakout

Also, man, Asus never thinking about improving their hinge attachment point are they...

[gloomy tinsel]

they didn't. just some of their product line is fixed in a year

some were 56wh

[odd juniper]

nice

[inland marsh]

Oh hi fellow transcoder

[sudden raft]

that reminds me

i should redownload cleaver

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXRS18K7gc

have win 10/11

size

[hexed citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHmWqXRnJs

okay now this tech

came from my hobby

and it's not DJI's proprietary silicone

but still it's super dope

[worthy musk]

http://www.thermaltake.co.nz/product/Chassis/fulltower/Mozarttx/ve1000sna.html

Can someone help me find this case for sale

I only see one for sale and its local pickup

[wintry forge]

it's a very old case

[worthy musk]

Yea i cant find one

I want it bad though

[sudden raft]

wanting an old thermaltake case

is a bad idea

this is coming from someone with an old expensive thermaltake full tower

[wintry forge]

You could go more DIY

[sudden raft]

i think the phanteks enthoo pro 2 might suit your needs if you go by spec

[worthy musk]

Why is it a bad idea

Its so cool

[quartz atlas]

you will regret building in it

unless you a modder or smth

[worthy musk]

Why

Keep telling me its a bad idea but not telling me why is a bad idea itself

[hexed citrus]

we're not gonna be the ones complaining that the GPU doesn't fit or that there is no proper cable management loops or that you can't properly run water cooling pipes

[worthy musk]

Well you could have told me that from the start?

How hard was that

[hexed citrus]

what other reasons would there be

it's a case

not a rocket ship

[quartz atlas]

[subtle hawk]

Imagine blaming someone else lmao

[worthy musk]

Well if that was all then whats the big deal

[quartz atlas]

creature comforts and part standards have came a long way since then

you can make it work sure

but we're just telling you unless you know what you are doing

you will regret building in it

[worthy musk]

Ive never built a pc in my life

[hexed citrus]

just 3D print a case 4Head

[worthy musk]

I just think the case is really cool

[hexed citrus]

function over form

[worthy musk]

Form over function

[hexed citrus]

it's your first pc

you don't have the knowledge or the skills to pull off form over function

[worthy musk]

I could just get a corsair airflow and it would be very efficient

But whats the fun in that

[hexed citrus]

I mean you can pay a boutique pc builder to build you a cool looking pc

[subtle hawk]

Yeah, that can definitely work, buuuut you do you

[worthy musk]

Whats that

[hexed citrus]

also that "fun" will only be relevant for like the first couple of days

after that you'll think "damn why didn't I get a high airflow case"

[worthy musk]

15 fans is not enough?

[subtle hawk]

I know that prebuilts are not the way to go obviously, but for first PC, I'd suggest going with it, if it's not too expensive where you live

At least you'll save yourselves the headaches that way and then start learning from there

[worthy musk]

I have a prebuilt

Its horrible

[subtle hawk]

Well, depends on how much you pay for one again, as said

Don't expect miracles at like $300 USD or such

[worthy musk]

It was about 800$ but it was on sale

AMD R7 240 in a "gaming pc"

[subtle hawk]

Right well.. you do you then

[worthy musk]

What

[subtle hawk]

Nothing, just saying that whatever you do as next step, congrats I guess

[worthy musk]

I was too stupid to realise how bad it was

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ-c6SmVuDY

[worthy musk]

Anyways is liquid cooling and cable managment the only issues?

[ebon mason]

new threadripper a lof cooler than new i9

[inland marsh]

💸

[worthy musk]

Intel bad

[ebon mason]

nah

12 gen is OP af

rememeber how many cores it have

[worthy musk]

I dont like intel i prefer amd

[ebon mason]

i like both

xD

[inland marsh]

I'd just pick whoever best fit my requirement, that's how capitalism supposed to work
Never believes in brand loyalty unless it involves something like designing hardware or developing code within a line of product

[worthy musk]

Oh that case supports liquid cooling btw

And it has space for cable management

All the liquid cooling stuff can fit in the ITX part of the case

[inland marsh]

man, when you're talking about old case I thought it was at most 5 years old case or something, not 20 years old

[worthy musk]

Its not that old afaik

Like 2010s

[subtle hawk]

Though the case you've posted can fit two PCs

[worthy musk]

It can

Hence why i said (itx part)

It holds a full atx and a itx

[subtle hawk]

Yeah but why get a case like that if you're going for a single PC

[worthy musk]

Because its cool

[subtle hawk]

It looks ridiculous..

If you really want to look special, then do the following

https://www.evga.com/products/E1-bare-bones/

[worthy musk]

That looks ridiculous

Thats not even a case

[subtle hawk]

Your idea isn't any better so..

[worthy musk]

My idea of using a actual case?

Yeah its just crazy

I think will all the extra room i could make a really clean looking water cooling setup

[subtle hawk]

You can do that with a normal case and not the thing from like 20 years ago

But I see why you're clueless, ngl

[worthy musk]

Excuse me

[subtle hawk]

You heard me, I won't repeat myself

[worthy musk]

Yes i heard a message on a app

"heard"

How can you hear text

[subtle hawk]

Don't backpedal now, or try to be suddenly smart

[worthy musk]

You just got done telling me how stupid i am and yet

[subtle hawk]

If you want something that can fit an ATX or ITX easily, you look at something like:
https://phanteks.com/Eclipse-P600s.html

And stop being delusional about the "coolness" factor for something like 20 years ago. Toodles.

[worthy musk]

"Delusional"?

Dude its an opinion

How dare someone have an opinion on the internet holy shit

The nerve

And speaking of opinions i never asked for yours i asked if someone could help me find that case for sale

[subtle hawk]

I mean, people already told you their reason here. Yet you're insisting on doing your own shit. You're delusional, plain English.

So yes, since you know what you're doing, best of luck.

[worthy musk]

Thats not delusional

Clearly someone hasnt played chaos head

Joking aside half the issues they mentioned dont exist

It has support for water-cooling and it has cable management

Theres plenty of room for whatever gfx card i want

[hexed citrus]

if it's a walmart prebuilt yes, but specialized store prebuilts are as good as custom builds

[hexed citrus]

listen, if you came here to ask someone to confirm your objectively stupid purchase decision, it ain't that place, if you like it so much then buy it

[worthy musk]

I didnt

I cant find it to purchase it

I came here to ask for someone to help me find one to purchase

Typical EN

[subtle hawk]

You consult Google for that then

Discord is not a website search engine

Typical Gen Z

[worthy musk]

How do you think i figured out i couldnt find one

[subtle hawk]

Heh, no one wants to bother with a case like that so.. time to step back into 2022 and not 2000s

[worthy musk]

Theres one listing on ebay but its local pickup only in california

[worthy musk]

Once again i dont care what your opinion is

[subtle hawk]

You'll still get one

[worthy musk]

I collect old crts im used to outdated tech

[inland marsh]

Have you searched ebay or similar sites?
You won't find one on retail for sure

[worthy musk]

Thats the only listing unfortunately

[subtle hawk]

Aaaanyways, the handheld PC gaming market is following Steam Deck rather quickly, latest case being the Aya Neo AIR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXRS18K7gc

I actually like it, I may pick it up in the future when it drops a bit in price

[sudden raft]

they're built like rubbish despite their price and have lots of usability and quality of life failures

[worthy musk]

Eh??

But their designs are really cool

[wintry forge]

why do you need that big of a case though

[hexed citrus]

the aya consoles existed on the market long before the deck

[subtle hawk]

I'm aware, but with Steam Deck, it appears that manufacturers are going full speed with being a competition

Valve set the standard, though take it with a grain of salt

[worthy musk]

I dont i just think its cool

My planned build only uses standard atx

[sudden raft]

that's what i thought at the time

honestly

don't

[worthy musk]

Dont have much of a choice tbh

[sudden raft]

old thermaltake cases are exceptionally high

on my list of "computer components you'll regret"

and i had a $350 one

have, rather

[worthy musk]

Well then what case do i get i dont wanna do the boring RGB GAYMER TEMPEREDGLASS RAINBOW AND BLACK aestetic

[sudden raft]

see my prior suggestion

in the same class of chassis with similar capability and optional ODD support

the phanteks enthoo pro 2/719

if you absolutely insist on thermaltake
nothing but their newer Tt premium items

anything in the standard line will start to frustrate you eventually

alternatively if you really don't mind a big one and the cost

cosmos

cooler master's much cooler competitor

[sudden raft]

the deck is basically the iphone moment for the form factor

[hexed citrus]

that was the switch

not the deck

[sudden raft]

not the first
maybe not going to be the best
but certainly the first to bring the "hand held PC gaming" to the spotlight

[sudden raft]

switch is all proprietary games so i don't count it

in the same category per se

[hexed citrus]

you may not count it

but matter of fact is that it brought this style of handheld to the world

[sudden raft]

may as well say the psp then

[hexed citrus]

the psp is a completely different thing

[sudden raft]

imho the steam deck is 'establishing' a category

pc-esque architecture handhelds

[hexed citrus]

in a way yes

[sudden raft]

nintendo

was not

[hexed citrus]

but it's definitely not revolutionary

[sudden raft]

because nintendo has always been their own category

[hexed citrus]

yeah no

the deck is clearly inspired from the switch

[sudden raft]

the iphone didn't really strike me as completely revolutionary either but it kickstarted the trend

it might be

but going further back the ps vita is perhaps a better "start"

seeing as it had two sticks

and a touch screen

[hexed citrus]

ps vita was a flop

[sudden raft]

even if it didn't have triggers

[hexed citrus]

because it was essentially the same thing as the psp

a.k.a a smaller watered down version of the bigger console

[sudden raft]

it may have been a flop but it certainly predates the form factor of the switch

[hexed citrus]

it's not the form factor

it's the idea

[sudden raft]

which i was about to say

that to be fair

[worthy musk]

Whats that

[sudden raft]

the idea of it being a "main console"

but portable

[hexed citrus]

that the handheld itself has enough processing power to run both in portable mode and docker mode where it goes full bore

[sudden raft]

sure the switch is the first to really make that a thing besides mobile phone gaming

[hexed citrus]

mobile gaming is its own thing

[sudden raft]

the deck however starts a new trend by bringing x86 in the form factor into the spotlight

[hexed citrus]

you can't hook up pubg mobile to a screen and plug in a kb&m to play

[sudden raft]

is that because of the app

or because you aren't using a usb dock

because i know genshin didn't support M&K on android

works fine with a xbox controller

or even a nprocon over bluetooth

[hexed citrus]

because it's not meant to be a gaming device

it's a phone for fuck sake

then it's a gaming platform

[sudden raft]

i can connect a keyboard and a mouse to a phone

[hexed citrus]

you can yes

doesn't mean you should

[sudden raft]

it's just not every game i've seen actually registers input from them

not like you can do that with the switch

[hexed citrus]

??????

[sudden raft]

physical keyboard sure but the thing doesn't exactly do mice

[hexed citrus]

that's like saying you can't do that with the PS5

it's obv that you can't, you have the controllers for that

[sudden raft]

don't some ps5 games actually support mouse and keyboard input

[hexed citrus]

no they don't

[sudden raft]

so only xbox then

because i seem to recall xbox does

[hexed citrus]

because xbox at this point is a glorified windows pc

[sudden raft]

mind you

the switch supports keyboards

but only for typing into text fields

[hexed citrus]

well no shit

[sudden raft]

which is far more trouble than it's worth

[hexed citrus]

so does any playstation since the PS2

[sudden raft]

nice to see the universal part of usb actually sort of seem plausible sometimes

[hexed citrus]

it wouldn't be a standard if it wasn't respected

[sudden raft]

if you just want something low key that isn't so "gamer" try the old fashioned masterbox NR600 or something

[hexed citrus]

just buy yourself a open air test bench if you want something boring that works

[sudden raft]

just really
don't buy an old thermaltake case
because they're not as good as they sound

[hexed citrus]

because whenever you like it or not, most cases nowadays have rgb and tempered glass sides

[sudden raft]

i'd honestly rather they were acrylic

[hexed citrus]

acrylic generates a lot of static

and scratches easily

[worthy musk]

I want brushed aluminum

[sudden raft]

i have no idea how

but my case from 2009 hasn't a scratch on its acrylic

[sudden raft]

right now that makes your options basically

lian li or silverstone

[worthy musk]

Yeah

[sudden raft]

and the ones from those two that still exist

[worthy musk]

I really like some of the silverstones but theyre so expensive

[sudden raft]

are rare

expensive

and outdated

[hexed citrus]

brushed surfaces are a pain in the ass to clean

[sudden raft]

because they're aluminum

aluminum cases have an enormous premium

the closest thing you might be able to get on the modern side

might be a fractal define

which are pretty boring not just because of how they look but because fractal went from being a "quirky choice" to mainstream favourite for "minimalist style"

[hexed citrus]

meshify C and call it a day

[sudden raft]

but they have a brushed finish on their outer panels

if that's all you really need

[worthy musk]

Fractal cases look p nice

[sudden raft]

they're made of secc like every thing else

but that means you can afford one without needing to write off an extra 2TB SSD or whatever

[hexed citrus]

I can say, for the 6 years I had this computer I never looked at the case, only inside it because it has a display inside

[worthy musk]

I remember fractal had a metalic red one i really liked but it wouldnt really match the look im going for

[hexed citrus]

the only thing I cared for when I bought, have space for all the components and fans, have cable management anchors and routing points, have a glass side panel, have decent airflow

the rest was irrelevant

[sudden raft]

how do i have one of the largest cases

and still have clearance issues

i honestly still don't understand that part

[hexed citrus]

got other more important parts to spend money on

I never had clearance issues

even with a 4 slot 3090

[sudden raft]

well you don't have ten fans and three radiators and two reservoirs do you

and four expansion cards

well it's not that there's no empty space
but apparently the clearances for the fan mounts turned out to be a lot smaller than one might've expected of a case that big

[hexed citrus]

I don't run a fusion reactor in my case no

[sudden raft]

the lower rad blocked access to the lower drain plug

[hexed citrus]

I have a single loop with one 360 rad like most sane people

[sudden raft]

though looking at it now i wonder if it could've been hardlined going -over- that radiator instead of of around

nah probably not

if it has to go upward gravity doesn't like that

[sudden raft]

it's some aio isn't it

those four slot cards these days are disgusting

[hexed citrus]

if you count EKWB parts an AiO sure

[sudden raft]

seems a bit excessive to block only the cpu

[hexed citrus]

the first slot GPU is also water cooled

[sudden raft]

so the unnecessarily brick sized one is a second

[hexed citrus]

yes

[sudden raft]

love how they're unnecessary bricks

but isn't a single 360 on that rather

stretching it

[hexed citrus]

no

[sudden raft]

that's like

what

450w+

loading both cpu and gpu

like 360 alone for either one sounds perfectly fine but loading both off a single 360 doesn't sound like it's going to take very long to soak

[hexed citrus]

why would I care about soaking

I'm not running benchmarks 24/7

[sudden raft]

because if you're doing a long render or just playing for more than 30 minutes

[hexed citrus]

I don't render on my desktop

then again doing liquid flow simulations isn't really rendering

it's computing

[sudden raft]

in a cold room this 360mm radiator ends up with 45c liquid and that's not with the gpu involved

[hexed citrus]

the point is that this 360 with 4 exhaust fans is enough to keep the whole computer cool

[sudden raft]

wouldn't that all the more demand something with some capacity to run for an extended period

[hexed citrus]

I said

I don't do that on the desktop

[sudden raft]

[hexed citrus]

I have this novel thing called a server

[sudden raft]

so

what's exactly the desktop doing then

[hexed citrus]

gaming

that's it

[sudden raft]

and 400W running through 360mm

[hexed citrus]

yeah it's not a aliexpress 360 rad

[sudden raft]

still sounds real warm but

[hexed citrus]

it can do 400W of cooling

[sudden raft]

if it's fine it's fine then

ironically i might have liquid that's too conductive because the liquid temp rises especially fast

[hexed citrus]

I have distilled water in mine

with no additives

[sudden raft]

do you change it often

[hexed citrus]

once a year

[sudden raft]

sounds about right then

[hexed citrus]

takes like 10 min to drain and fill it up

[sudden raft]

ii have that weird graphene one

figured we'd give it a try while everything was new and clean

and see just how disastrous or not it would be

it does appear to work as advertised but the flipside is that it saturates much faster than we're used to

[hexed citrus]

corsair nuked the lighting node

so now I can't control my lighting

[subtle hawk]

I still like mine, because yay homebrew. But yes, it is indeed a flop

[worthy musk]

Honestly if these get a bit cheaper id be happy with this

https://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Pro2-TemperedGlass.html

The case comes apart right?

[wintry forge]

if I'm paying more than a hundred for a case they better be

[kindred arrow]

You could buy a fractal design

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/torrent/torrent/black-rgb-tg-light-tint/

[wintry forge]

when the case is more expensive than the gpu

[kindred arrow]

(Yes, that's literally its name)

[wintry forge]

anyway, I'm using the thermaltake versa h18

it does what a case does

holds computer stuff inside

[kindred arrow]

If the GPU is a GT 710, yes

[wintry forge]

isn't torrent like $280

[kindred arrow]

It's the price of a 1660 I guess

[wintry forge]

an rx 6600 is $260

[kindred arrow]

In my market, it's still like "300 bucks" or more

(Based on exchange rate)

I think the "Torrent Compact" is cheaper... probably, it's pretty pricey still

Around the price of a Corsair 5000D airflow

[quartz atlas]

Intel bad

[wintry forge]

when was the last time amd released a ryzen 3 chip

[kindred arrow]

July 27, 2017

[wintry forge]

sheesh

[kindred arrow]

... actually, the actual last time they released a ryzen 3 was April 4, 2022

july 27 2017 was when they released their first Ryzen 3s

[worthy musk]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255662980401?hash=item3b86b37d31%3Ag%3AzqQAAOSw4Ppi7T4r&LH_BIN=1

Will this work good?

[wintry forge]

it's a case

I don't know what you're trying to do

you could probably fit everything you'd ever want in that case

[worthy musk]

Well the one i wanted to use earlier had a ton of issues apparently

[versed blade]

Have this

pretty amazing case

now that I think I should clean it up

[worthy musk]

I do really like the aluminum with the grey

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaKe19KV5Ic

[ebon mason]

same phone

better cpu bigger battery

extra 400euro

xDDDDDDDDDDDD

[worthy musk]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265809644828

Something like this would be cool

[ebon mason]

soo

Corsair Hydro Series H100i GTX

i have AIO too

i7 9gen is hot af

like i9 9gen

[worthy musk]

Intel bad

[ebon mason]

now its good

but hot af

but new i5 12 gen

powerfull

[worthy musk]

Yeah overheating af

[ebon mason]

new i9 is hot

i saw terst of new threadripper

64/128 and coller than new intel i9

[hexed citrus]

amd bad

[worthy musk]

U bad

[hexed citrus]

samsung unpacked was mid

@versed blade word of advice

don't buy a mavic now

any mavic

[versed blade]

my plan was new year

why whats up

[hexed citrus]

new DJI tech

can't say much

but it's good shit

they're also probably gonna start phasing out a lot of their current drones

since the improvement in the system is akin to from the phantom to mavic era

[versed blade]

hopefully it will be before the 26th of Jan

[hexed citrus]

probably not

they're just planning to release the DJI avata

which is a FPV cine drone

[versed blade]

I dont really need a FPV drone anyway

[hexed citrus]

exactly

the next gen normal drones will take some time

as the FPV one are generally their test bed

[inland marsh]

Just build your own drone smh

[hexed citrus]

I do he doesn't

[quartz atlas]

dem amd ballsweat must taste good

[hexed citrus]

https://twitter.com/chromakode/status/1524796921461735425

Max Goodhart (@chromakode)

New York City is like Linux:

• Spend the first year re-learning how to perform basic tasks

• Spend the rest of your lifetime claiming how much better it is

• Bad drivers

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Twitter · May 12, 2022, 5:01 PM

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWltASCJO-U

CS, LOL and more esport events games use it???

Oh god

its not top tier ones

[ebon mason]

800Gbps

[hexed citrus]

nothing really that impressive

[inland marsh]

Nice to have when your home is 2 meters from IXP

[wintry forge]

lol

[ebon mason]

[hexed citrus]

even then I'd use fiber

[worthy musk]

Is it possible to convert a non dual system case to a dual system

[wintry forge]

with a bit of craftsmenship you probably could

or just slap a raspberry pi to the side of the case and call it a day

you could also buy two sff cases and put them close by

if you only need one powerful pc, you can just make one normal pc and then get one of those mini apu pcs

[worthy musk]

I dont need two its just cool

[wintry forge]

は？

[kind rivet]

guys

can wifi 6 router reduce connection interference caused by too many wireless device?

[hexed citrus]

no

besides all devices need to support wifi 6 to use it properly

[kind rivet]

no

i mean

i got too many wireless device like keyboard mouse etc

my connection got slowed down when i use them all together

like

this is when every devices turned on

and this was not using any wireless device

[worthy musk]

Wait what do bluetooth devices have to do with anything

[hexed citrus]

if you're using 2.4GHz wifi then yes it will slow down significantly with a lot of wireless devices that use the same frequency around

or if you're in a big city where there's already a lot of other wifi points nearby

that's why I'd recommend using a wired connection if possible, if not then at least 5GHz wifi

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YQgolEJNAQ

[kind rivet]

alrite thanks bro

[inland marsh]

Most peripherals are 2.4 GHz, and they use their own modulation so the signal should be orthogonal to each other anyway even to 2.4 GHz WiFi...

Idk what AP you're using, but most should be smart enough to pick the least congested Wifi channel if there's a lot of "competition". Use a Wifi scanner otherwise to pick least congested one.

It pains me that most AP default to wideband, or users deliberately pick the widest band. Probably thinking more is better 😑

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsoKWsZ-Tyw

they looks like kids

4k
165hz
2000nits

55 inch

[hexed citrus]

I don't even need my youtube feed with you around

[subtle hawk]

I'd argue to post something else other than Linus for once lol

[inland marsh]

2000nits
Bullshit

[quartz atlas]

bullshit

thats kinda weird energy

why would u say its bs

their flagship last year(?) g9 neo

already has 2000 nits

im just waiting to upgrade to qd-oled g9

but samsung display is having an internal fight with samsung electronics

due to them not being able to agree on pricing

[inland marsh]

This one don't even claim HDR2000
heck, not even HDR1000 which IMO it should be at minimum

[quartz atlas]

HDR2000 is not a specification under DisplayHDR yet

dHDR costas $ to certify

This is certified for HDR10+

HDR10+ is an open standard and is royalty-free; it is supported by Colorfront's Transkoder and MulticoreWare's x265.[7][8][9] A certification and logo program for HDR10+ device manufacturers will be made available with an annual administration fee and no per unit royalty.[13] An authorized test center conducts a certification program for HDR10+ devices.[13]

[inland marsh]

The previous G9 Neo does advertise HDR2000, it would be weird for Ark not to advertise it if it meets the spec

[quartz atlas]

Nah, g9 neo is Quantum HDR2000

aka samsung's own mumbo jumbo

not industry recognized

i guess they are not using HDR2000 due to this

[inland marsh]

At least it signify their 2000nits claim

[quartz atlas]

hdr10 was designed for 1000nits

and 10+ is supposedly >1000 to 4000 nits

so eh

as long as the technical specs meets the claims

[sudden raft]

NG9 in practice can hit 2,000 nits
but it's in very limited situations

but yes/no the "Quantum HDR2000" is not a VESA certification

the ark has less dimming zones than the NG9

but anyway to be honest

i don't even use the maximum brightness

because even in a lit room the NG9 already has the potential to be rather blinding

the bigger problem with the NG9 is its quirky tone mapping and numerous QoL UX problems that make it hard to live with in a number of ways

which to me are more significant than it not constantly giving 2,000 nits

it's bright enough as it is and delivers great visuals regardless

and the local dimming does actually work

[inland marsh]

Most will calibrate to target 200nits anyway

Those who care enough to actually calibrate that is

[quartz atlas]

Above a certain point, it's not really about nits anymore

But rather contrast

Which is why the od-oleds are amazing

Cuz above 1000nits and true blacks for each and every single pixel

[sudden raft]

i think my standard range setting is usually below 200nits

because i find even 250 nits brighter than i need at that distance

i haven't any way to reliably measure it

but on most monitors rated for like 400/600 HDR i usually have them at like

25

in terms of the brightness setting

different story with notebooks of course depending on the environment but most of the time indoors i rarely use like >40%

[sudden raft]

contrast ratio makes everything better
it's why i switched to preferring VAs

if only samsung would actually get their act together on the firmware/software side for their monitors

the NG9
it's truly capable of an enthralling experience
but you need to feed it what it wants/expects and nothing else unless you want to frustrate yourself

plus
its only viable arm
commands just as much a premium as the monitor itself does

what gets me about the QD-OLEDs on the other hand is

their pricing

has turned out to be much lower than i'd expected

the dramatic increase in max brightness ought to be a genuine boon for proper HDR content; i find that does actually prove to be an issue when watching it at daytime if you don't pull some curtains on older oled televisions (especially since they often have glossy panels)

if only netflix on mobile could stream 4k

[quartz atlas]

Windows and websites/browsers need to get their hdr support up first

[sudden raft]

when is obs going to have a half decent HDR conversion/LUT

i don't like having to turn off HDR everytime i want to stream

[hexed citrus]

https://i.redd.it/bqz93dc872i91.jpg

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bafzQBSktwk

1440p 240Hz OLED

gimme normal 16:9 or 21:9 OLED 200Hz+ QHD or WQHD Monitor

they are not popular

we have like few

and normal price not f... 3-4k USD

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecdm3oA-QdQ

[sudden raft]

so television needs replacement

QD-OLED y/n

[inland marsh]

you guys still watch TV?

[sudden raft]

4K HDR on a big panel

is different from 4K HDR on a tiny screen

[gloomy tinsel]

only for watching netflix with family :kekw:

family shows is just 5 minutes of film and like 10 minute of ads

so I didn't buy tv anymore

my tv is just a 40 or 43 inch panasonic from 2009

[hexed citrus]

nobody uses a TV as something to watch cable on nowadays

[sudden raft]

when you have proper content to watch

it's worth having one

[hexed citrus]

exactly

nowadays it's just a big screen for netflix, youtube, twitch, plex, etc

[sudden raft]

planet earth was 60GB an episode

but worth it

[kindred arrow]

I just notice the Android Discord app gets a new refresh

Unfortunately that gets disorienting at first

Animations are sketchy, text gets larger, and in general feels like beta software

[hexed citrus]

welcome to react native

[kindred arrow]

To be fair, it's okay, and I'm pretty sure Discord could iron out the bugs and performance issues with this new framework

[ebon mason]

i just check all shops in my country how much cost gpu now the start price

Nvidia
RTX 3050 - 315 Euro
RTX 3060 - 405 Euro
RTX 3060 TI - 520 Euro
RTX 3070 - 600 Euro
RTX 3070 TI - 750 Euro
RTX 3080 - 850 Euro
RTX 3080 TI - 1050 Euro
RTX 3090 - 1400 Euro
RTX 3090 TI - 1750 Euro
AMD
RX 6500 XT - 265 Euro
RX 6600 - 350 Euro
RX 6600 XT - 420 Euro
RX 6650 XT - 460 Euro
RX 6700 XT - 550 Euro
RX 6750 XT - 700 Euro
RX 6800 - 700 Euro
RX 6800 XT - 820 Euro
RX 6900 XT - 880 Euro
RX 6950 XT - 1200 Euro

23% taxsale inside

[hexed citrus]

with time but it still performs much worse than the old native app

elysia the inferior flame chaser

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q

and what just buy cheap version

[subtle hawk]

That's boring

https://youtu.be/qVDCPUczUiM

This is more interesting

[ebon mason]

xbox is only popular in US

i am not gamer soo meh

[subtle hawk]

That's incorrect. It is also popular in Europe, most notably UK. However, that's not the point here
And of course, I'll immediately call you out on that "im not a gamer" bs with your Steam account. Over 100 games, recent activity Witcher 2.. so yeah. Some "not gamer" you are

[ebon mason]

last time i use steam was month ago

xD

ahh yee i forget i need finish witcher 2

someday

in next year

[kindred arrow]

Kinda

[mental coyote]

She's pretty cute, at least.

[ebon mason]

i remember when i do many moon photos with my last phone p30 pro

[ebon mason]

toaster with screen

[subtle hawk]

Knew about this since like 2-3 years ago

[ebon mason]

its overpriced like a lot

Panini Press cost 80$

WTF

u can buy panini cooker for 80$

not f... press

this crap is not smart

just toaster with screen and app

dont have wifi etc

overpriced shit

[wintry forge]

silicon valley stuff

fix something that ain't broke

[subtle hawk]

Well thankfully no one is forcing you to buy it Haroumi

[inland marsh]

At least it isn't Juicero

[sudden raft]

make a sunbeam

automatic

[ebon mason]

they dont sell it in EU

[subtle hawk]

Cool

[wintry forge]

looks like a pretty good deal

oh $25 shipping

still not too bad

[hexed citrus]

https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1560317928397889537

Framework (@FrameworkPuter)

The @Lenovo legal team says we have to change the power button on our 3D printed case, so we’re opening up a Community contest! Whoever can come up with the best new power button design gets a free i5-1135G7 Mainboard.

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Twitter · Aug 18, 2022, 5:29 PM

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAS_g9OuWs

[hexed citrus]

@versed blade data recovery be like

https://yamato.azurlane.moe/media/5k7vd.png

[sudden raft]

is that compression

[hexed citrus]

that's analyzing each cylinder on each platter of the disk

and no the data was unrecoverable

or well not all of it

only a small fragmet

[flint bobcat]

what caused it to lose the data

[sudden raft]

that triggers my ptsd

[hexed citrus]

sudden loss of power

[sudden raft]

mine was a 7200.14

it crashed itself to practically literal bits

i
haven't forgotten the sound

[ebon mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPxkrGL0l7U

When Azur Lane phone xD

[versed blade]

Installed Lineage OS 19.1 on my OP7P (I think the build is broken as no wrap charge?) and god so smooth and everything works great

literally screw 1+ and their shitty OOS

[subtle hawk]

Meanwhile my 30W 8 Pro charger decided it wants to have a mind of its own and not charge the phone properly, so I've resorted to using an old Galaxy S7 charger that I still have as that charges the phone now. Still a slow ass charge, 10 hours that is, but it's charging

OnePlus can literally close their doors tomorrow and I won't give a fuck really, I'm getting that Galaxy S21 FE next Saturday

[versed blade]

I am just gonna wait for the new iPhone and switch

Gonna use it as my daily driver

I just want something that works, with regular updates and no hassle if I have an issue e.g. going to Apple and comeback and they fixed my phone

without sending it to another country for 3 weeks

[hexed citrus]

they're still going to send it to netherlands to be repaired lmao

[versed blade]

nope

:pausechamp:

[hexed citrus]

no apple store keeps parts on stock for repairs

this ain't unauthorized repair shops

[versed blade]

Weirdly enough they do it here

[hexed citrus]

maybe for cracked glass or basic crap like that

if ur battery is fucked it's getting shipped off

if u broke the charging port, it's getting shipped off

if u mangled the case, it's getting shipped off

[versed blade]

no battery and screen is done in store

These are the options you have if you want to repair a phone in UK

[hexed citrus]

so what is the turnaround time for a repair at a ASP or a store

[versed blade]

Apple Store

thats where they repair it usually

[hexed citrus]

yeah no shit

[versed blade]

never had any other experience other than that

[hexed citrus]

I asked the turnaround time

[versed blade]

ah sorry

I think last time 2-3 hours or so

[hexed citrus]

for what repair

and on what phone

[versed blade]

Battery

iPhone 7 like years ago

not my iPhone

[hexed citrus]

well yeah no shit that took no time

[versed blade]

I mean thats all I need

I do not care about the rest

[hexed citrus]

it's an ancient phone that they no longer service at their big facilities

[versed blade]

I keep my phone pretty well anyway

[hexed citrus]

if u get smth like a 13 or a 12 now and it has issues, off to the NL facility it goes

[versed blade]

Yama that's not how it works here

[hexed citrus]

ramzh that's how it works everywhere

[versed blade]

well not here I can assure you that

[subtle hawk]

Definitely not here as well and I live in non-EU country so..

[hexed citrus]

obv if I go in to a AASP or a apple store with a iphone 5 it'll get repaired on the spot with whatever spare parts they have on hand if they have them on hand that is

[versed blade]

I like in UK it's a non-EU country kek

Yama

[hexed citrus]

but if I got with one of the latest gen one it's getting shipped off bcz apple doesn't allow them to stock parts on site

[versed blade]

We went the iPhone 8 just came out

not like yesterday

I would not call the Iphone 7 ancient at the time

[hexed citrus]

ramzh you can't compare the experience you had years ago with the current situation

[versed blade]

They do repair on sites even for new ones

I can ring them up now if you want

[hexed citrus]

do it

[versed blade]

sure

[hexed citrus]

ask them how much is going to cost for a 13 pro battery replacement and what is the turnaround time

or a 12 pro for that matter

[versed blade]

why does the cost matter?

[hexed citrus]

if the phone is 1500$ and the battery replacement costs 600$

it's not economically viable to do it

[versed blade]

I am not sure where you're pulling those number from

this is the battery replacement

[hexed citrus]

okay what about turnaround time

[versed blade]

I cannot get hold of them on the phone as today is Sunday

but I will let you know tomorrow

again Yama, this is not how it works in UK

from Apple forums

which is international

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253845481

[hexed citrus]

apple forums are moderated to not have any bad image of apple

[versed blade]

yeah okay yama

https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/aen5st/how_long_does_a_battery_replacement_take_at_an/

let me guess

reddit is moderated by apple employees too

all of them took from 30m to few hours

[hexed citrus]

okay that's if they have the parts in stock at the store

[versed blade]

Well yeah, you literally said they do not stock stuff

which with latest gens they do

especially battery

screen in more limited quantity iirc

[hexed citrus]

screens they'll replace the whole screen even if only the front glass is cracked

[versed blade]

went with a friend of mine to replace his iphone 11 screen when it came out (broke at the ice skating) and took around 3-4 hours too

[hexed citrus]

which OLED panels are eye watering expensive

[versed blade]

I mean hey money is not an issue usually

I personally care about how long it takes (3 weeks for OP to send my back my phone for a battery replacement)

and regular support

[hexed citrus]

it's the value of the device

[versed blade]

Yama this was 2 months after the OP7P came out

[hexed citrus]

if I spent 1k on it then why the fuck do I have to waste 300$ on the replacement screen when only the top most layer of glass is cracked

[versed blade]

just dont break the screen

I never broke a phone screen in my life

not even scratches

[hexed citrus]

well accidents happen ramzh

not everyone keeps their phone on a velvet pillow

[versed blade]

if I buy an expensive thing

no way I am not protecting that with with case etc

I had screen protector breaking