3 am and 9am reset
#pvp
neon bronze
SEA i see
neon bronze
mmm sleep time
untold crater
East EU not SEA
untold crater
Yeah 2nd reset pH is 9am and then 3rd is 3pm
trail temple
SEA timezone is fine for pvp
neon bronze
i just burst 10/10 attempts before 3PM then spend the rest (5/10) after that. Lazy ass me
lime folio
the sand bagging dopamine
when u randomly open exercises and find something so free like this
river marsh
lime folio
cinder wolf
jinjimar pls teach how to pvp
river marsh
jinjimar pls teach how to pvp
mellow charm
we all getting skill gapped by jinji
flat veldt
I don't think any time zone is bad tbh
My timezone 
young storm
This is why you shouldn't take free wins
I feel like im in the wrong neighbourhood....
untold crater
My timezone <:DeadSex:903077011583557632>
My Friend YOU LITERALLY HAVE THE SERVER TIME
just trolls these days man
flat veldt
candid sluice
damn where did all these pwo pvpers come from
untold crater
We come from the Amagi server.
candid sluice
candid sluice
more relevant than somebody here
keen silo
SEA timezone is fine for pvp
rustic bridge
Die warspite my first win on warspite in pvp
Why become i only to strong players on pvp 
untold crater
3rd is easy
untold crater
he is lvl 60
steel coral
I'm getting really tired of constantly carrying the server
candid sluice
Can you please carry me father nard
untold crater
flat veldt
Can you please carry me father nard
Looks sus, you might end up with this instead... Can't trust anyone nowadays 
keen silo
candid sluice
Looks sus, you might end up with this instead... Can't trust anyone nowadays <:g...
Doesn’t have vanguard nor jarbus so I ain’t scared
untold crater
that 130% dmg increase for barrage is crazy
trail temple
Would be stronger if it had perseus tho
flat veldt
Warkai snipes kinda spooky tho 
steel coral
Looks sus, you might end up with this instead... Can't trust anyone nowadays <:g...
probably photoshop
candid sluice
I’m using the djk strat this season so I won’t lose to that fleet
If anyone would like to know what that is please talk to my secretary Carlos
flat veldt
Sliding into his DMs rn 
keen silo
flat veldt
probably photoshop
Idk man, your Wiz Khalifa WarKai deleted my backline and I almost lost
sweet venture
whats the consensus build for vanguard rn
not for some only hms but for most meta fleets
i doubt shes gonna powercreep NJ for aquila vv backs but who knows
sweet venture
what equipment to run for her
keen silo
i am on a mission to prove vanguard usable
candid sluice
whats the consensus build for vanguard rn
check the pins and scroll down
theres a sample vanguard build there
steel coral
Idk man, your ~~Wiz Khalifa~~ WarKai deleted my backline and I almost lost
almost losing to ranger and charybdis? 
keen silo
charybdis is op bruh
rocky shadow
Not having meta ship is suck
flat veldt
Pvp is hard...that's why I'm taking metafy lessons from Deathkt 
untold crater
charybdis is catastrophe-class
rocky shadow
And now worse with vg come, NJ become more op than before
candid sluice
charybussy good?
keen silo
teatime terrors 
rocky shadow
I don't know how to counter both (vg and NJ fleet) now
Using 2 cv 1bb isnt viable anymore (to kill backline)
candid sluice
counter... maybe... final counter??
keen silo
candid sluice
forrea tho try out final counter
rocky shadow
Hmm maybe warspite can replace NJ? Idk but seems work
rocky shadow
forrea tho try out final counter
IM using Shinano hiryuu Nagato now
keen silo
vanguard can replace nj just replace Juneau with noshiro/yukikae
juneau without that 5% dr melts 
candid sluice
IM using Shinano hiryuu Nagato now
use vanguard over nugget
flat veldt
Yea just build NArd's fleet but VG instead of NJ
keen silo
unless double boiler which I didnt test
candid sluice
check the pinned sheets and pick a fleet that dont have nj in it
candid sluice
too political we dont do that in this channel
rocky shadow
you can use the tea time terrors fleet
I have seen it and seems kind work but i have to test it
With perseus vg blue/yellow(?) Skill can active
candid sluice
the point of that fleet is to take out one of your opps backline early on with pers preloads and warkai snipe + vanguard dmg increase skill
rocky shadow
the point of that fleet is to take out one of your opps backline early on with p...
Yup in theory tea time terror fleet can almost/one hit enemy backline
candid sluice
if u want u could even use a ultra fast mg on vanguard to proc additional 8% dmg for warkai
untold crater
Warkai good????
candid sluice
but that would gimp her dmg output too much
candid sluice
additionally u could opt to use a tank frontline with juneau for your backline to live long enough for warkai second divine snipe
with the 15sec load time it will sync with vanguard
untold crater
Seriously tho she's worse than NJ/Aquila/VV so don't need to use her unless you're missing that
candid sluice
ppl keep asking for comps when theres a whole ass spreadsheet pinned in the channel
keen silo
river marsh
late heath
Kashino best ship in pvp
late heath
She’s T -1
candid sluice
shes unlisted there for a reason
if more people find out about her pvp would be too difficult
untold crater
@steel coral opinions?
trail temple
Do yall recommend this on PvP?
The using manjuu helena or ranger meme?
candid sluice
all those procs and u still got the D smh
steel coral
only 1 ranger?
candid sluice
just use lvl1 ranger then
candid sluice
ok yukana
untold crater
My username
keen silo
okay Yukana from the Coral Sea server
steel coral
ok Yukana from 珊瑚海
keen silo
is that even traditional chinese
untold crater
You're the Chinese guy not us
keen silo
true
untold crater
Tell me, is it? 
steel coral
is this a pvp?
untold crater
My PvP server
untold crater
Where is meme
keen silo
ok NoobAsian from multiple servers
trail temple
If you listen to ALM's videos, you'll know what I sound like and as a result, my dialect
keen silo
video link pls???
trail temple
Nah find it yourself 
jolly lichen
I'm sure your dialect will have no impact on the quality of advice you give in here
trail temple
That's a very good point. Couldn't have said it better myself
steel coral
video link pls???
eos aotn challenge conclusion at about 1 hour mark
flat veldt
untold crater
Aussie Aussie Aussie
plucky pawn
Best fleet consist of Lolis or commons, no inbetween, so gear them up
pseudo copper
untold crater
eos aotn challenge conclusion at about 1 hour mark
Crazy how u knew that too
NArdVPN keeps data on every user I guess
mellow charm
Yukana suffering from DJ Khaleed strat
candid sluice
im telling u guys djk strat is actually working
i got a top10 mover at 5/10 lmfao
but ppl here keep dismissing it as a "troll" and "not making sense"
Here is proof that I’m not bullshitting
if u need further proof send a message to my secretary Carlos
pseudo copper
im telling u guys djk strat is actually working
I wanted to ask you about it, but heard you got muted for it 
merry oar
How much points do i get when rushing 5 battles??
Nvm just saw the pin
uncut agate
Base scores when you rush
candid sluice
check the pins that chart is already there
merry oar
What's the third row about??
candid sluice
ensign? its a rank
uncut agate
score difference for getting bonus points at that rank
candid sluice
if u mean third column thats the minimum leaderboards position u need to reach before ranking up
plucky pawn
If u use a less buff up team you get more points
Commons will give you more points than UR
keen veldt
What's the third row about??
u mean column?
plucky pawn
Contrary to popular belief, if you use lesser ships in your pvp team you will also get more pts, thats how the top players get EOS leaderboards
Although you have the Gear them up with rainbow gears or the confetti guns
sleek quarry
Contrary to popular belief, if you use lesser ships in your pvp team you will al...
Wait so technically using common 1:1 fleet is the best for getting score?
fallow granite
when is anchorage ready for pvp
fallow granite
doesn't she use the 550mm tri cuz skill?
I'm asking what dev level and actual level is she ready for pvp
currently she's not max dev and at level 99
winged depot
I used mine at dev 25 level 115, works great
fallow granite
mine is over dev 25 but still level 99 sadly
plucky pawn
doesn't she use the 550mm tri cuz skill?
Yeah true for this, but u gotta use the rainbow torp as well to maximise her smokescreen
fallow granite
how does it maximise her smokescreen
I thought it's just straight up spam as much skill as possible for her
candid sluice
she is usable once u upgrade her smoke skill to lvl10 and lvl125 her
fallow granite
guess I'm not using her anytime soon
suffering on the cognitive ray so can't really level 125 anything
plucky pawn
I thought it's just straight up spam as much skill as possible for her
Its the timing based on your opponents BB/CV
If she spammed it and its between the windows of the BB salvo or CV planes you are dead as well
candid sluice
next time check the pins
fallow granite
I did
I tried to follow this one
it has 550mm tri
every single fleet which has her in it uses the 550mm Tri
candid sluice
My brother in christ
light crystal
I tried to follow this one
I'd put Heels on Ancho if u got them, over the Rudder
fallow granite
My brother in christ
I can't find that in the pinned messages
fallow granite
I'd put Heels on Ancho if u got them, over the Rudder
sadly I don't
rustic bridge
On what should i chappy remove 
mellow charm
Me and the bois||e||
candid sluice
I can't find that in the pinned messages
It’s in the first pinned message spreadsheet
fallow granite
oh I've never bothered clicking that
fallow granite
oh god it's so laggy
candid sluice
Also a guide section but that’s still wip ure gonna have to be patient with that
fallow granite
hm
rustic bridge
Percy is evil
candid sluice
Check the pins
steel coral
Check the pins
should pin this so everyone knows 
cinder wolf
should pin this so everyone knows <:Thinkpitz:470795614246928384>
pin this as well as reminder
pseudo copper
pin this as well as reminder
📌 this too
flint python
Percy is evil <:Blessex:753375684126310451>
perse tier ex after all
ripe sundial
candid sluice
check the pins and find out
rustic bridge
percy good in pvp?
Lv 70 has my lv 115 fleet destroy
last swan
percy good in pvp?
Not her damage but her pre-load to reveiw enemies CV before they lauch
iirc
north lark
Is it me or is Indomitable really good in PvP? I haven't found another place that she really shines at. At least not in mob fights so far since I'm farming D2
candid sluice
its just you
trail temple
Refer to pins for good and viable ships in PvP
light crystal
Is Javelin good in pvp?
north lark
Can I ask why Juneau is in one of the recommended PvP fleets?
untold crater
her Martyr skill heals 25% of each ships max HP
untold crater
very useful
light crystal
Also happens to have good AA, so helps with the CV threat a bit
north lark
Oh really? That's neat
untold crater
and an AA skill
cinder wolf
exotic badger
Is it really normal for my bb's to not fire their salvo? I can see that their salvo are available but they dont use it until the next round of exchange against enemy backlane.
candid sluice
is the enemy backline composed of carriers that have not been revealed
exotic badger
is the enemy backline composed of carriers that have not been revealed
Ah, is that one of the reasons?
trail temple
is the enemy backline composed of carriers that have not been revealed
Make sure we can get this added to the spreadsheet so we have it in the pins
candid sluice
oh yeah ill add that to the FAQ section of the spreadsheet in the pins
candid sluice
Ah, is that one of the reasons?
indeed its reveal mechanics
exotic badger
Ok thx
plucky pawn
get the spy glass aux to reveal them
keen silo
yo im back
river marsh
of course the 4 guys on my pvp list are also baggers
they still haven't moved any points since reset
steel coral
c*llusion time
flint python
guys! what module for NJ? 
candid sluice
guys belfast good in pvp with module??
late heath
Still not as good as Kashino
trail temple
Eugen with her now high eva
plucky pawn
yeah is exceptionally good when your vanguard can equip railguns to attack the backline
but farming for it is tough
crimson bear
Anyone with a CN account able to confirm if augmented modules work in PvP? Or have an Eugen with enough cores to make an item to test?
keen silo
please check the pins
split ferry
Anyone with a CN account able to confirm if augmented modules work in PvP? Or ha...
Here's an update. PVP is affected by the melee stuff. both stats and special skills. found this out from other CN peeps
candid sluice
does the slash clear projectiles in exers
split ferry
You usually wont have enough time, but it was tested with Prinz's melee item to be 100% sure if it did affect things or not, and Prinz item activated on pvp immediately
Which is, if she's the leader of the vanguard fleet, her shields go off immediately
candid sluice
yea but does the slash clear on screen projectiles
oblique cobalt
Yesn't
fallow granite
Here's an update. PVP is affected by the melee stuff. both stats and special ski...
oh god
oh no
dusty reef
How'a the teatime terror fleet so far?
keen silo
decent
rated tier 3 according to the pinned sheet
if you want to go into specifics about it
you have to test it yourself
candid sluice
its not tiered in the sheet get your facts straight dj khaled
cinder wolf
it's t3 in the street
no memes
mellow charm
dusty reef
isnt it still untier?
candid sluice
yes its untiered currently because there has not been enough testing done with it for a tier to be determined
light crystal
hey guys, should i use bow or cane on my cv
candid sluice
if the fleetbuilder adds a slot for modules ill update all the fleet builds in the spreadsheet
eventually
flint python
isnt scepter better for weeb
oh wait yeah i got it mixed up
keen silo
light crystal
if the fleetbuilder adds a slot for modules ill update all the fleet builds in t...
stick or bow on 
❓
candid sluice
keep your stick on jarbus
buoyant parrot
@keen silo thanks for the latest WIP for the PvP Guide
buoyant parrot
@candid sluice you're a beast! Thanks for keeping it up to date :)
keen silo
that’s very nice of you btw @buoyant parrot it’s not often many people appreciate what salty and the rest of the people here do
candid sluice
<@268021815316578304> you're a beast! Thanks for keeping it up to date :)
yessir i do it to help the en community with their pvp endeavours
buoyant parrot
I might need to make one for another game, very soon 😂
keen silo
artery gear, by any chance? 
buoyant parrot
😂
candid sluice
thanks for the original doc format btw, woulda been a pain in the ass to scratch up a new one
buoyant parrot
to be an event ship that can be used in exercise is pretty good in my book regardless if she ain't the best
in another note, is the new UR BB usable in Arena?
keen silo
yeah she is
buoyant parrot
replacement for the pasta BB?
keen silo
i don’t know if self promo is allowed but I have done some testing
candid sluice
she seems like a solid pick but people dont have her maxed out for testing just yet
candid sluice
i don’t know if self promo is allowed but I have done some testing
if youre displaying ship performance i dont see why not
keen silo
Guess so
buoyant parrot
quite interesting to see a new shift in the Meta
untold crater
not so much a shift in meta
untold crater
just an alternative fleet
candid sluice
the most recent meta shift was with the italians and new jersey but that was a while ago
cinder wolf
add rld module for backline when
candid sluice
im not sure when the last time you played was tho
untold crater
most recent meta shift was shimakaze
light crystal
<:AlbaSalute:611004145754832896> yessir i do it to help the en community with th...
👍
keen silo
ok let me upload my testing videos against Lexi fleets
buoyant parrot
Im sure to go back focusing on exercise if something major happen to it. like I dunno... maybe some big overhaul to the mechanics xD
candid sluice
might be wishful thinking considering pvp mechanics havent changed pretty much since release lmao
keen silo
yep
cinder wolf
hidden cv technically mechanic changes
candid sluice
that was a general game mechanic change not specific to pvp
cinder wolf
which affects pvp 
making 3bbs comp kinda cringe
flint python
attacker advantage 
no fun
cinder wolf
make it climbing instead mechanic instead of points
untold crater
like ba?
keen silo
yeah
untold crater
u just want it because you're good at ba
light crystal
Fuck BA, make it like CS instead 
cinder wolf
that doesnt translate to AL
light crystal
They got an auto mode pvp 
candid sluice
just make it like any game and match us up based on elo smh
untold crater
make it real time with no resets
keen silo
no attacker adv too
light crystal
Well, I just want a better reward system. Can also do away with Attack bonus and ticket system can be made a little faster to recharge
cinder wolf
actually pts or rating is fine, remove advantages and reset button
keen silo
yeh facts
untold crater
this means i cant test fleets for fun
cinder wolf
wr doesnt mean anything in al at this point
candid sluice
faster recharge would just make ppl overcap more
untold crater
cinder wolf
which used to be genenal idea of how good player is
flint python
this means i cant test fleets for fun
can always ask for friendly match feature
keen silo
yeh friendly match is gd
untold crater
can always ask for friendly match feature
wish we had this, hate waiting 2 weeks to roll that 1 good fleet
cinder wolf
for testing purposes, yeah
candid sluice
even when u do find someone to test against, it takes a while for defense fleets to update
buoyant parrot
btw why is Sextuplet better than Twin 40mm?
untold crater
send
keen silo
yea give me 5min
buoyant parrot
does 6tuplet have some additional hit?
keen silo
SEA wifi bruh
untold crater
kek
cinder wolf
sex has highest alpha dmg
candid sluice
which gun are u referring to
keen silo
whats twin 40?
buoyant parrot
ohhh that's why
flint python
you only need burst aa for vg
flint python
staag for torp burst or whatever
buoyant parrot
for the hit
cinder wolf
crash dmg determined by plane health left when reached the other side, bursting down some of their health helps you reducing incoming dmg
keen silo
ye for the hit and as accelerator
cinder wolf
rule of thumb, good aa eff -> sex, bad aa eff ->staag
theres some niche exception but in general that is
keen silo
true
buoyant parrot
hmmm looks like i'll be doing some minor changes on gears for my fleet
just gotta annoy casuals walling them 😂
candid sluice
🤝
flint python
wall club
keen silo
just gotta annoy casuals walling them 😂
thats what we all want in life 
buoyant parrot
yes yes, I keep rushing for the casuals to hit me. Once server is up. I'll start swapping some gears. no more free SEGS for the casuals
candid sluice
as long as you still assist in server score youre doing great
dusty reef
Some questions, reason for the suggestion for fighter is sea hornet? How's it compare to tigercat and rocket plane?
candid sluice
its a straight upgrade from tigercat
and rocket plane is more fo a situational thing
keen silo
rocket plane different story
candid sluice
so hernet is the general recommended plane
keen silo
rocket plane if it hits it hurts a lot but it has no AA intercept value which can hurt you
buoyant parrot
I am in Avrora lol, I was once AOTN EOS tho that's a very long time now. I still see some good "Weeb" teams out there but not fully geared to the teeth unlike the other oldies I know
candid sluice
yeah weeb fleet is trickier to equip so most people mess up their builds and make it subpar
buoyant parrot
I see Mafia and Weeb teams mostly
dusty reef
So it's more speed and 0.2s faster than tigercat
buoyant parrot
btw pre download is up
keen silo
ty sir
candid sluice
thx for reminder
keen silo
SEA wifi is shit
dusty reef
Also, main gun recommendation for anchorage? Can't afford drake gun rn
keen silo
look at pins
untold crater
gear lab gun
untold crater
no
pseudo copper
So it's more speed and 0.2s faster than tigercat
Faster airspeed too
keen silo
prototype skc 203
buoyant parrot
sigh I'm still Tenrailess Pleb... until i get my last 1 BP
untold crater
Also, main gun recommendation for anchorage? Can't afford drake gun rn
This one
keen silo
balti gun is same as ron gun iirc
untold crater
idk it's the only gun the poor players use
pseudo copper
balti gun is same as ron gun iirc
Slightly more heavy and 1 more angle
buoyant parrot
just walling some people, gotta brush some dust on the pvp wall fleet. Still retired lol
keen silo
for those that are curious about vanguard's viability: https://youtu.be/ZktmsCGCB0o and https://youtu.be/fvhZ_lCQoQ8 might change your opinion. all testing is done versus baggers with good def fleets
flint python
gotta +13 dem gears breh
candid sluice
i heard the pvp environment in avrora is harsh is that true
flint python
for maximum wall
buoyant parrot
all gears are +13, I'm still actively playing. Not just sand bagging anymore in PvP
i am of the same opinion
buoyant parrot
lol
buoyant parrot
for maximum wall
I miss DonaldTrump
candid sluice
in that case your +13s might be more pve oriented
pseudo copper
for those that are curious about vanguard's viability: https://youtu.be/ZktmsCGC...
Brah purple soon?
keen silo
but you still sandbag
u cant break a bad habit
keen silo
I miss DonaldTrump
he still plays iirc, weeb fleet guy right?
buoyant parrot
last time i saw his fleet was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back, like when the South Dakota meta. And his ships name are all related to walls
keen silo
yeah same guy.
buoyant parrot
haven't encountered him since then, or maybe i wasn't paying attention just rushing
untold crater
i remember his vg was the 3 chinese ships and he named them "The" "Great" "Wall"
candid sluice
ive seen screenshots of his defense fleet using weeb with the same WALL nickname
buoyant parrot
😂
candid sluice
im not chaning astroworld or resizer nicks
untold crater
:O
keen silo
i know what to change it to already 
lexi pvpers gonna see something funny in a few days
uncut agate
OmO
candid sluice
Carlos
spring hamlet
why do really strong accounts put unleveled units in their pvp defense is there a reason ?
late heath
Put Ark Royal & 3 DD
gray beacon
Collab
untold crater
Because defense is meaningless
Gain and lose nothing from defense
Prefer to give free wins to players
candid sluice
It entices players to attack them therefore moving up on the list
untold crater
Alternatively you can put up a serious fleet and cause them to lose therefore not moving up on the list
Hard to say which one is more beneficial
candid sluice
The latter is funnier
candid sluice
Is that why people use manju nj
late heath
The more people struggle, the wetter I get
merry oar
Can i get 100 pts when rushing with 7 battles??
untold crater
Can i get 100 pts when rushing with 7 battles??
How many pts u have rn
merry oar
799
The rank 1 has 895 i think
untold crater
U will be tied with him
96 pts
Because after getting 4 +15 you will be above 850 pts, causing you to get only +12 per win
merry oar
So I'd need an average of 13.7 pts to tie with him
merry oar
If i can get at least +1 pt from rank difference
I can go higher than the rank 1??
candid sluice
Check the pins
untold crater
It's not rank difference, it's point difference.
A guy 100 ranks above might only be 10 points ahead of u
merry oar
How do i get bonus pts again??
untold crater
Fight players with a big point difference
The point difference required will depend on your score
See that chart above for your minimum point difference required for a bonus
sour oasis
The more people struggle, the wetter I get
But you don't see the poor
light crystal
calm mica
Imagine gimping your server's EN score win for the season by putting in a tryhard defense fleet on the last hour of EoS. Wouldn't be anyone on Amagi, surely
calm mica
It's worse. Can't even test your fleet comp
untold crater
you dont need to test your comp in a world a 9k FP defenses
calm mica
Yeah, you're right. Just overcap the last exercise every time, better than overcapping every reset
untold crater
🤔
move 1 minute earlier
wont happen, i guess
you can ask them not to put up a serious fleet right? they're probably SC anyway if they're at the top of lb
calm mica
But really, probably best to give up on EoS if we're just gonna be screwing each other over. Rather have a stress-free easy AotN
flat veldt
But really, probably best to give up on EoS if we're just gonna be screwing each...
Pretty much why I stopped going for EoS R1 
untold crater
less competition? not again
flat veldt
you can ask them not to put up a serious fleet right? they're probably SC anyway...
Some ppl say the C in SC stands for cult but it's actually Casual
untold crater
Super casual
candid sluice
Imagine gimping your server's EN score win for the season by putting in a tryhar...
couldnt be me
i do it at 30mins
last swan
Does the delete bullet good in PvP?
untold crater
It helps
steel coral
couldnt be me
Same 
flat veldt
Yea you'd have to be a heartless monster to do something like that 
ancient skiff
untold crater
Carlos = UNULTRA real name btw
flint python
no way unultra is salty's secretary
royal beacon
Who unultra
untold crater
I'll put it in simple terms for you
If god's creation is the universe
UNULTRA's Creation is Azur Lane.
light crystal
Pro tip. Stack Blades on VG.
candid sluice
damn guys friendly "memes" are not allowed in this channel apparently
untold crater
It's my opinion
candid sluice
helping the community is a bannable offense here it seems
flint python
pvp talk not allowed?
candid sluice
guess no more helping allowed
keen silo
sadly, it really does seem so.
flint python
I thought this channel is not just strictly for help
keen silo
I thought it was, considering channel placement right below GPH
keen silo
i guess memes aren’t part of the general talk
especially pvp memes that the casual community doesn’t understand
maybe thats what happened
flint python
topic should be updated to be strictly for help then
candid sluice
telling people how to get help and where additional resources are is a bannable offense now guys
keen silo
guess so 
it’s the mods call
candid sluice
make sure to never assist players in this server again or you will be booted
calm mica
pvp channel no longer part of the pvp aspect of AL from what I can tell
pseudo copper
This channel is only for 
crisp dune
Ark or enty ???
flint python
enti
cinder wolf
can anyone comfirm if module stat is affected by skill or nah
untold crater
neon bronze
the new augment system good for pvp?
untold crater
it makes your fleet better
neon bronze
ok then i'll wait until some of the dalaos have good results with these to use in PVP
calm mica
it's bad for pvp
all main fleet getting auto +20 eva means sweaty monkeys on defense fleet get to RNG out more resets
candid sluice
You’re telling me u don’t like long drawn out luckbased fights? Smh
light crystal
dry socket
You’re telling me u don’t like long drawn out luckbased fights? Smh
they always say owari da
but the fight never owari das
flat veldt
You’re telling me u don’t like long drawn out luckbased fights? Smh
yea I love taking 15 minute "bathroom breaks" at exactly 5:45 pm during workdays 
untold crater
"Sorry boss, my stomach has a schedule"
flat veldt
Imagine interrupting your boss in the middle of a 1:1 meeting to tell him that you need to do your PvPs use the restroom... smh, couldn't be me
untold crater
He also needed to do his pvps probably
keen silo
flat veldt
He also needed to do his pvps probably
Plot twist: my boss is Unultra
untold crater
pseudo copper
Does that mean if you become the boss you become Unultra?
neon bronze
Opinions?
north lark
Did it with this team too
north lark
What makes that frontline bad btw? Just wondering
Kron is good but what about the other two?
untold crater
those ships are not good for pvp
north lark
Til
untold crater
they die too easy in pvp vs any good fleet
well, hes only lv77 so not like he had much of a choice
keen silo
doesn’t matter
untold crater
Where should someone 2 months old at the game
depends on a lot
trail temple
Not a straight forward question, not even the pins could tell you that, and they can tell you a lot
untold crater
will depend on which event's you've played, what gear you've obtained in the time you've played, will depend on how often you played
many varients
also depends on what region you play in
in some regions 2 months is enough to get rank 1
fallow granite
is it better to give anchor the fast torp or the rainbow torp
oblique silo
The purple triple torp
fallow granite
ok then
because a few days ago someone said it's also ok to give her rainbow torp so her skill will activate when enemy main ships fire
basically timing purposes
keen silo
fallow granite
at least my pvp fleet is slowly coming together
candid sluice
Finally broke past rank 1k
hey congrats man
glad pond
Which is better BB or CV in PvP?
candid sluice
which bb and which cv are we talking about
neon bronze
Which is better BB or CV in PvP?
the BB and CVs you want all involve preload in some way
BBs:
Warspite retrofit
New Jersey
Vittorio Veneto
CVs:
Aquila
Chise Asukagawa
Perseus
Akagi + Kaga
just some examples because i forgot some
oblique silo
Vanguard, Shinano, Hiryuu are good
candid sluice
check the pins for which ships to use
sour oasis
Which is better BB or CV in PvP?
Also depends what your opponents are fielding; until you get to the higher ranks and everyone starts to use maximized meta tier ships (including you), your offensive line will be in flux. Sometimes you'll need more barrage from BB, other times stealth reveal from CV.
candid sluice
[under construction] the (still WIP) guide for EN pvp gamemode: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit?usp=sharing , currently updated with the new Augment Modules system and Vanguard fleets, as well as budget fleets
@humble geyser can i ask u a favor, please unpin the old message with the spreadsheet and pin the above message instead
humble geyser
candid sluice
tyty
candid sluice
good job reading 👍
cinder wolf
wild lechonk
neon bronze
just vibing in the Philippines irl
neon bronze
back on topic, with Ayanami, Shima and Yuudachi retro... when you have a Noshiro, should you replace Ayanami?
untold crater
SEA 
neon bronze
been thinking this because Ayanami's buffs incentivizes manuel gameplay; and we in PVP so should I use Noshiro instead?
untold crater
Yes
neon bronze
well it gives incentive for me to raise Noshiro now. thx
keen silo
been thinking this because Ayanami's buffs incentivizes manuel gameplay; and we ...
yea she is tanky and adds torp dmg refuction utility 🙂
untold crater
And buffs torp crit rate
light crystal
[under construction] the (still WIP) guide for EN pvp gamemode: https://docs.goo...
So Fleet Builder doesn't have Module slots yet?
Would have to update the pics on the Tier list all over again 
cinder wolf
too lazy to do the items background
flat veldt
<@707103978034429982> i think you can do it better <:EntyLUL:522425982758682637>
That already looks pretty good to me nice job Rumi
candid sluice
Too much effort to photoshop every single module cba
I’ll wait till fleetbuilder implements it
I’ll also update fleets with rainbow hpfcr then
cinder wolf
skill issue
candid sluice
if u wanna do it be my guest
cinder wolf
no, but if y'all need it i can add some more later
candid sluice
theres already a tab for modules people can connect the dots
cinder wolf
you mean the people who need direction to find the pins?
merry vale
north lark
I don’t know why but it feels like there’s a theme here: 
untold crater
they're all ships
keen silo
you think thats enough
pseudo copper
I don’t know why but it feels like there’s a theme here: <:hmmm:9080282820526899...
All I know is I wanna steal the ship on far left and become only Amagi player with Ryuujou
winged depot
Is she the reason why amagi is still at 99%?
winged depot
Hmm, good luck on them then
pseudo copper
Thanks
untold crater
I have Ryuujou and I'm an Amagi player
brazen socket
Oh great pvp overlords
How much difference did augments make
Like barely there to notice or enough that it makes a difference
neon bronze
which server has some pvp tryhards aside from amagi server ppl vibing in here and the occasional other server ppl?
candid sluice
avrora
untold crater
Sandy
cinder wolf
but amagi is the better server of all
untold crater
river marsh
40 mins left until reset and still, none of the 4 guys in my pvp list have attacked yet
do you guys refresh the pvp list and how often?
untold crater
depends on where in the season im at
early i usually just refresh my list after getting a +11 and my new list has no probable movers
later on i'll use them to avoid +9s and to try and snipe +11s at 8/10 / 7/10
candid sluice
3 days before eos u should use them sparingly
keen silo
40 mins left until reset and still, none of the 4 guys in my pvp list have attac...
same man
shit early pace too
sleek heron
how'
how's the testing going on mafia vs mafia versuse tea time vs mafia? ancedotally i seem to need to reset alot lesser using vanguard/warcorgi against a mafia defense comp, but not sure if that data is meaningful
keen silo
cuz that teatime team is worse
untold crater
how's the testing going on mafia vs mafia versuse tea time vs mafia? ancedotally...
On offense you do better with VG/Corgi? Interesting 🤔
keen silo
whats your fleet? @sleek heron
untold crater
I 125 my VG today so time to test
keen silo
candid sluice
if u have a video with your testing it would be nice to share
keen silo
what server btw
sleek heron
avrora
candid sluice
if u know the equips of your opponent that would be great as well
its possible their fleet is just gimped
sleek heron
idk, it's possibly i've just gotten lucky and fighting mafia with bad equip, which is why i'm asking
untold crater
Damn lv120 VG
sleek heron
since my ancedotal experience might not be representative
untold crater
Gonna use this, what should I use for VG? (Frontline)
cinder wolf
make sure your test subject is an actual working mafia
candid sluice
would be better if the fights were recorded
cinder wolf
not something like, shima tank mafia
sleek heron
what do you mean by actual mafia?
untold crater
Like good equip
candid sluice
a well equipped one
sleek heron
i've seen anchorage//duca/shima and anchorage/duca/jun
sleek heron
so shima/duca and not jun then
untold crater
yes
sleek heron
wish there's a way to check defense equip in game
untold crater
can guesstimate based on FP
cinder wolf
i've seen anchorage//duca/shima and anchorage/duca/jun
same units not neccessary translate into fleet performance, pay attention to enemies loadout
sleek heron
what FP am i looking at for a "real" mafia?
candid sluice
well equipped is minimal 16.5k backline
sleek heron
yeah i've been fighting those, tho i'm guessing the 17.5k ones probably aren't optimally equipped
candid sluice
still passable they probs have +13 wyvern 457 and tenrai
sleek heron
or i guess it could be oath, none of my pvp ships are oathed and i'm already at 17.2k
i'm running double 457 and tenrai/wyvern on aquila
candid sluice
then it should be a solid fleet to test against
keen silo
double 457 on warkai/vg?
sleek heron
yeah double +13 457's on corgi/vg
keen silo
yea seems about right
if u dont mind show gear as well unless it's same as salty one in guide
sleek heron
candid sluice
looks solid
untold crater
Yep very nice fleet just needs +13s it seems
sleek heron
gold plate so rare lol
untold crater
Depends
candid sluice
i think it has enough +13s to give good results
cinder wolf
not +13 black torps kinda cringe
untold crater
mega
sleek heron
i might have +13'd too many steam catas, no gold gen plates left 
winged depot
If I don't have shima and poi what torp ships should I use
keen silo
use yukikaze
candid sluice
not much that can replace shima in her role
winged depot
I'll probably just do juneau, kronk and a ancho. Thoughts?
candid sluice
just use an additional tank vg
winged depot
Even with beaver?
candid sluice
yes
keen silo
u want more speed in pvp
disregard everything u learned in pve
about speed and whatnot being bad
winged depot
I see, maybe i'll raise ykkz
candid sluice
a slow vg is just fodder for nj barrage
winged depot
Hmm tbh my jervis is mlb while ykkz is not
I'll just raise both, why not
Thank you 
candid sluice
yukikabruh is better pvp wise
keen silo
maybe seattle
candid sluice
but if u want to focus pve progression too jarbus is a solid raise
but thats not what this channel is for
winged depot
Yeah ik, ykkz it is then
candid sluice
good choice
winged depot
I currently run a homing beacon indep, vanguard and a howe (warkai is nearly there around 115 prolly change howe)
keen silo
i think indep not as good without NJ
candid sluice
solid for now
candid sluice
uni is just there for preload
keen silo
ya
winged depot
Once I craft another wyvern maybe i'll switch her for uni
neon bronze
looks doable, let me reply to this comment and replace Aquila with Chise
light crystal
Another Shima class
There is none.
I have high hopes Kitakami may get the cut, however.
candid sluice
light crystal
Very high contender to be a good PvP ship as well.
Depends how Manjuu goes about it. They could meet or exceed expectations, or give us a crappy ship for PvP in Kitakami.
candid sluice
cope
light crystal
keen silo
copium
candid sluice
lunar echo
So uh...anybody know what happens when the clock hits 0? I'm in hell
Okay never mind it ended after 3 minutes
light crystal
So uh...anybody know what happens when the clock hits 0? I'm in hell
A tie is still considered a loss iirc
uncut agate
it's a loss if it hits 00:00
light crystal
tbf, Anchorage with Drakegun should be able to take on a full HP AQL
Even if 1/10 herself
But can she take on 5 ships by herself? Unfortunately, no.
calm mica
I know of a ship that can take on 5 ships by herself
flat veldt
@steel coral rate Shio's 
nickname?
fossil yarrow
Feel free to correct it btw
candid sluice
its quyet hes not worth the bother
tawny wedge
Ark Royal troops
keen silo
merry oar
What happens when you defeat someone who has lesser points than you??
sleek heron
you get less points
the boost work both ways, more point opponent = bonus, fwer point opponenet = penalty
i've gotten as long as 8 pots during AotN rushes before because it was better to take the point hit and finish the fight faster rather than getting tied up with a stall fleet
as low*
assuming you don't care about end of season points, that is
keen silo
if you’re eos u will nvr rush aotn
sleek heron
yea, i only care for the aotn merit boost b/c i still need like 50 more gold bulis to MLB all the SSRs
trail temple
Yeah, we had a guy that claimed to only do PvP for merit, but he definitely wasn't playing for max merit. More like max points
candid sluice
if u play for max merit u camp top10 aotn spot and get those 100 merit battles
trail temple
Yeah, he does that now
sleek heron
more like 24, but they're all collabs so i'm not in any hurry
candid sluice
sleek heron
this looks like a proper mafia for testing purposes right?
uncut agate
probably
candid sluice
seems solid judging by fp
sleek heron
3 wins 2 loss putting warkai to snipe NJ
3 wins 1 loss putting warkai to snipe aquila
couldn't test further cuz didn't reset fast enough and accidentally let the 3rd win go through
found a 17.2k fully oath backline, but i think this one has worse equip judging by the comparatively lower dmg i was talking on the preloads
keen silo
tbh ill look for a recognisable name first then test
sleek heron
would be cool if there were a list of reconizable test target on avrora i could use, but that feras guy's fleet definitely felt properly gearred based on how much oomph his reloads were doing
keen silo
you should ask @crude mortar
sleek heron
on one of the losses he straight up deleted VG before she could even fire lol
keen silo
if u were on lexi i could have told u who to watch out for 
sleek heron
i'm day 1 avrora
crude mortar
the fact that you have lost to that fleet once is something
sleek heron
i thought all the pvp tryhards were on avrora, at least that seemed to be the case back in the day
candid sluice
theyre still there just newer names popping up on other servers
crude mortar
if you win 3 lose 2 vs non tryhard fleet that really saying something
steel coral
average day using ranger
crude mortar
keen silo
good meme
candid sluice
hes using teatime terrors cut em some slack
sleek heron
with 120 VG lol, tho the 5 lvl diff probably dont make too much difference
candid sluice
its pretty big
keen silo
its veru large
steel coral
its quite massive
crude mortar
thats alot
cinder wolf
that what she said
untold crater
it's pretty big, but you can handle it
untold crater
sleek heron
didn't feel like using exp books on boosting VG since she takes mvp every fight anyway, should be 125 by end of this coming week either way
so far the most common reason for needing a reset is if warkai's 1st snipe misses 
or when the defending mafia preload deletes one of the backline
light crystal
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749898857567223848/983911989472559124/6...
2589, no duh
autumn bear
I know it’s not meta but what do you guys think (my anchorage is not 125 yet or fate sim)
candid sluice
brem is an odd pick
autumn bear
Yea should I use San Fran until anchorage is done
candid sluice
i mean u should avoid using heavy cruisers that arent anchorage
do u have jda raised
autumn bear
Jda?
candid sluice
jean the arc
autumn bear
Ah
untold crater
Yea should I use San Fran until anchorage is done
Can use her starting dev 10
candid sluice
yea u just need her preload torps and pump up the levels
autumn bear
autumn bear
autumn bear
I’m like 30bp away
untold crater
Level them a bit
autumn bear
I could go full mafia but I like my iris