pvp

[candid sluice]

[tall nimbus]

[limber leaf]

[royal flare]

I love when people respond in brainless memes instead of English. It really helps understand who's worth ignoring 🤣

[gray beacon]

[harsh knot]

Why is that in this channel chat?

[gray beacon]

[mellow charm]

Music is a language that goes beyond your small world of "english only"

[gray beacon]

はい…

[ancient skiff]

[candid sluice]

some people cant appreciate the art of music

we call those people troglodytes

[keen silo]

[spark oak]

In this setup, is Anchorage the tank and Veneto the flagship?

[candid sluice]

indeed

[spark oak]

Awesome Thanks

[last swan]

[spark locust]

PVP so fun when my cancer ass fleet (and about a lot of high rank players) just melts everyone up like that indiana jones scene

[cinder wolf]

[frank pebble]

lvl 86 u got barely enough time to 125 a team with that.

[candid sluice]

you underestimate unultra

[calm mica]

You have all the time in the world. Just 2-1 and dorm

Oh wait, it's Unultra we're talking about?

[untold crater]

as someone that had 2 120s at lvl 26 this is not true at all

[calm mica]

I'm sure he's able to hide his power level

[frank pebble]

min/maxing comparable to runescape

[candid sluice]

the biggest gatekeep for 125s is the arrays

leveling botes is baby mode nowadays

[frank pebble]

yup

[untold crater]

for low lvls you can get quite a few just from the rewards

[coral wren]

Bruh

[distant void]

He has a lot of Dorm Spot, that's why his Shipgirls are growing way too fast...

[cinder wolf]

i barely have 120s

[distant void]

Me too

[gray beacon]

I have two level 120s

[calm mica]

I bet you could do a get-AotN-with-level100s if you tried hard enough

[cinder wolf]

[distant void]

Anyhow, how are you guys?

[cinder wolf]

not good, losing to preloads

[candid sluice]

doing pretty well hbu bro

[distant void]

Indeed, Preloads are very annoying

[distant void]

Doing good as well.

[spark locust]

kek

[distant void]

That lineup is quite terrifying

[spark locust]

[candid sluice]

hey ive seen that one before

[cinder wolf]

only one preload that easy

[distant void]

Preloads are so OP though I'm not interested using it in PvP

Still, Preloads are very terrifying

[late heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698828433823891469/974200469020868628/Kashino.png now imagine the even the more OP preload with Kashino

[untold crater]

[keen silo]

[velvet elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/792598666305077278/971478049717637150/865673087025676339.gif

[oblique cobalt]

[late heath]

https://tenor.com/view/akairo-azur-lane-boss-thinking-gif-15255635

[keen silo]

[trail temple]

I am beginning to notice more and more Percy fleets on Amagi

Interesting

[untold crater]

quite a few more

why? because her event reran recently.

[trail temple]

I don't quite think that was the cause, the timings are too out

too far*

[untold crater]

yes

almost like the casual playerbase doesn't 120 ships after 1 week

[late heath]

it's cause Perseus is OP

gl getting past those fleet

[flint python]

I have Percie defense

good luck

[trail temple]

A lot aren't even 120 yet, they're throwing her in because they realise she's good

Additionally, it's more prominent in Amagi, not the other servers

Other servers I either get random fleets or meta

On Amagi, mostly percy (both maxed and semi levelled), some randoms and few meta

[untold crater]

many amagi players missed percy

since she ran semi-early

july-august 2020 when amagi started april 2020

[cinder wolf]

[untold crater]

just what i think idk

dont imagine many casual players had cubes stacked on a 4-5 month old server

[candid sluice]

Pers original run was in august

[royal flare]

I'm missing killing Percy fleets

[cinder wolf]

[dapper stone]

I went back to using Chise instead of Percy

[uncut agate]

I went back to using FdG

[candid sluice]

i went back to using sodak

[flat veldt]

I went back to using Nagato and lost to Perseus

[candid sluice]

your flagship sank u lost the match smh

[light crystal]

I went back to using Aquila, never looked back

[candid sluice]

ok aoste

[keen silo]

they took a few notes from last season I see

[mellow charm]

All the ppl trying to drum up hate against percy smh. Who hurt u that u feel like hating on this op ship is a good thing?

[keen silo]

people hated mafia

people hate percy

[mellow charm]

damn haters need correction, hating on an op ship

[sour oasis]

Is Perseus no longer event locked?

[mellow charm]

still event locked, next time she appears should be perma tho

[rustic bridge]

Possible to win

[mellow charm]

your cv's planes might not reach the backline

[rustic bridge]

lost you was too strong

to Bad for pvp

[dapper stone]

how to deal with manjuu NJ? she always gets her shots off

[sour oasis]

Use one of your own, focus on taking her out first, use 3 CV, or torpedo heavy vanguard.

[dapper stone]

3CV to stay hidden?

[sour oasis]

Yeah.

[dapper stone]

good idea

(dont have her myself)

[sour oasis]

None of these are particularly reliable (which lends to why NJ is OP) but they are options.

If your opponent is running NJ on the wings, it's tempting to use Warspite and snipe with the rainbow twin 457.
And again, going full torpedoes (HMS straight-firing tea-torp) and triggering the defense Manjuu early is a thing too.

If the defense's vanguard is also giving you issues, it may be best to avoid that fight altogether.

[uncut agate]

use manjuu anchorage

[tall nimbus]

[sour oasis]

⏳

[dapper stone]

Managed with lucky WS snipes

does she always snipe diagonally?

play or not? 3 attempts left

[uncut agate]

You going to sleep soon?

[dapper stone]

yeah

soon-ish

[uncut agate]

It's your choice, you'll wake up with 8 attempts left if you don't do them now, no worries

[dapper stone]

I might oversleep the 2nd reset, it will be at 9am or so

[uncut agate]

Ah

[dapper stone]

the times suck

[candid sluice]

U will only get a +1 up to u if u wanna take it or na

Wait nvm u won’t get any bonus

Just move whenever you’re ready to

[narrow perch]

What's everyone pvp equipment

[calm mica]

Basically what's pinned

[narrow perch]

I ain't even see that lol

[fallow granite]

I have Richy, Aquila, and NJ as the main for pvp, should I put NJ as flag or Richy as flag?

[keen silo]

richelieu

[untold crater]

Riche is the only one that gets something out if flag

[frank pebble]

Hiryuu Kai or seyblitz?

[calm mica]

yes

[untold crater]

Depends on team comp but generally hiryuu

[north sentinel]

Both with manju jersey

[candid sluice]

new meta

[frank pebble]

so uh, is dev 25 haku gud?

[untold crater]

in pvp? No

In PvE, I think she's usable

[keen silo]

I guess only guild boss

[candid sluice]

No

[frank pebble]

should I work on maxing her dev lvl for pvp?

or agir?

[keen silo]

no shes useless

both are pve

[frank pebble]

fuccccccc, i spent cubes to get bp's for these ships and now i guess it doesn't matter sadge...

[candid sluice]

Both suck in pvp

Get anchorag

[frank pebble]

I already have/use her at dev 30 hahah

[keen silo]

thats good

[candid sluice]

Well they’re good in pve so u didn’t completely waste

[frank pebble]

oki, maybe I'll try ch 13...eventually...

anyway, here's my current setup

opinions?

[keen silo]

kron bad

[frank pebble]

any gud replacements?

[candid sluice]

Try Seattle

[keen silo]

try juneau

seattle too

[frank pebble]

damn, she still FS4

[candid sluice]

U can buy with coins

[frank pebble]

Dare I?

[keen silo]

buy with coin

[frank pebble]

Oki, give me a week LUL

I do 10 a day

[candid sluice]

Save the gen prints just buy with coin

Convert those to core to buy more 457

[frank pebble]

not 234mm?

[keen silo]

457 more important

[frank pebble]

oki

[candid sluice]

Prioritize 457

It’s more game changing

[frank pebble]

I will take these tips to heart

ty

I still need to wait for 457 prints to restart sadge...

[light crystal]

Guys will Lion be meta

[untold crater]

Return of HMS in meta?

well, HMS is already meta with percy/warspite

[vocal fable]

I agree with Percy, not so much with warspite Kai.

She is a strong SSR but not UR lvl

Percy is an UR pretending to be an SSR and warspite is an SSR pretending to be a UR

[honest moon]

what's the best counter against anchorage?

[calm mica]

Killing the rest of the team

[honest moon]

so.. build backline deleters?

i.e. retrospite/aquila/percy?

[calm mica]

generally better to go BB focused to work around her invincibility timing

Just one preload carrier is good enough

[honest moon]

right.. thaks

[calm mica]

np

idk what you have, but presumably NJ is missing, so if you have riche or Seydlitz for a good preload shot, it's decent to reset around getting good burn hits in

[honest moon]

me has nj lmao

retrospite is purely to take out enemy aquila

or any other carriers

but triple BB is the idea ig

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

Kill the rest of her team

She don’t do shit on her own

[shadow egret]

aquila chise perseus ibuki kaza shimakaze

simple as

[light crystal]

💪

[lethal tapir]

whats the meta pvp team nowadays?

hm,mm aquila vittorio nj

what happened to my nagato teams Q_Q

what are all those numbers in the pins tho? i know the weapon efficiencies, the levels and the reload times, but whats those on the bottom of the ships? and the x1 x2 x3 on the weapons?

[cinder wolf]

mount/load out

i.e 3x on NJ guns means she has 3x main gun mounts

[lethal tapir]

oh that, and for planes is the number of planes ig

what about the 1.12?

[cinder wolf]

affection bonus

[lethal tapir]

ohh i see

okay thanks

[shy dove]

I want to see u guys current pvp score for reference

[uncut agate]

[untold crater]

Since it's early season it can be anywhere between 1215 - 1205

(at 5/10)

[shy dove]

rip

i have 1200 only

[untold crater]

Doesn't matter too much

[uncut agate]

1150 to 1200 (5/10)

[untold crater]

Early season matters a lot less

[candid sluice]

;pace 9 1166

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

Where eugen bot

[cinder wolf]

cant tell you my score but i could have been rank 1

[shy dove]

cant tell lol

best secret ever

[untold crater]

At 1173 7/10 myself

[shy dove]

many ppl here can be rank 1 instantly

[dry socket]

i still run nagato teams as a returning player just not enough damage nor utility anymore

[shy dove]

that's high

[untold crater]

Quite a few can get rank 1 here

[uncut agate]

plasma isn't here

[cinder wolf]

who?

[shy dove]

so 1200 5/10 is ok i think

[untold crater]

Yes

[uncut agate]

Yes

[shy dove]

thank you

[untold crater]

Last 3 days of pvp are most important

[shy dove]

i have a very bad start this season

[cinder wolf]

same, overcap everytime

could have been eos top

[shy dove]

not only bad start but also 2 reset without any bonus points, all 10 game with base point

[uncut agate]

1200 5/10 is really good, you easily finish in top 10 eos if you keep up the pace

[shy dove]

thanks for ur information

[shy dove]

1206 5/10 if 4 +10 games. high af. that's great

[candid sluice]

There are people higher than me

[shy dove]

ik

[candid sluice]

That’s like average score for around this time week 1

[shy dove]

there are always few ppl higher than we think

[candid sluice]

It’s only downhill from here

[shy dove]

we try to get 2 +1 each reset right?

[uncut agate]

Right

[untold crater]

Try to get 5 +1 every reset

Or even a few +2

[shy dove]

5+1 is impossible T_T

[untold crater]

Not if you overcap

[candid sluice]

Get a +2 and a +1

[shy dove]

+2... hard

rarely get +2

[candid sluice]

Surprisingly I got a lotta movers after last maint

+2 +1 +1

[shy dove]

i got no movers, rip

[candid sluice]

And a +1 +2 before

[untold crater]

I got none

[uncut agate]

I got one

[candid sluice]

Just gotta look out for people on the hit list

If no hit refresh

[shy dove]

how to use refresh by a efficience way

[untold crater]

If your list has nobody that will move, refresh

[candid sluice]

Log in 5mins after reset

No movers refresh

[shy dove]

rip

my reset is at 2am

[untold crater]

And later in the season refresh if your leftmost is lower rank than you, refresh

[candid sluice]

Me too

Do it for the other two resets

[untold crater]

Same 👴

Not this one but the next one is 2am

[shy dove]

wtf?

where are u

[untold crater]

Europe

[steel coral]

just mold your sleep schedule to fit pvp

[shy dove]

hmm

[candid sluice]

The 12hr reset is my 2am reset

[shy dove]

11:33pm here

next reset is 2am in me

[candid sluice]

Lol we are in the same timezone

[untold crater]

SEA players

[shy dove]

where are u, SA

[candid sluice]

Indo

[shy dove]

ah

Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Viet Nam, Indonesia same time zone (+7)

[small field]

What is the average time to get 1 tenrai from research?

[candid sluice]

Took me around 2 months for my first

[small field]

That sounds... really fast

[candid sluice]

Pr4 print rates are better than previous seasons

Took me about 4-5 for 457

[steel coral]

took me about 9 months for me to get 2

[small field]

Interesting. That is good to know. Thank you.

[uncut agate]

took me 4 months to get my 1st Tenrai, still doesn't have my 2nd

[candid sluice]

If you hard focus on equip prints it shouldn’t take too long

[uncut agate]

I am doing that, I just don't have luck

my last Tenrai print was 2 weeks ago

[candid sluice]

Luck issue

[late heath]

If you married Kashino, you’ll get better luck

[untold crater]

@shy dove are you going for rank 1 or just AoTN

[shy dove]

aotn first, let's see next week ll i be busy or not

[calm mica]

1213 and might or might not be leading in Amagi atm

Like Yukana says though, AotN usually levels the playing field, and then final day is a total crap shoot

I've probably had most 2nd in the server after mafia meta LUL

[untold crater]

After mafia meta? Maybe definitely not in history of Amagi tho, that spot goes to mikoto

[calm mica]

Well if you didn't have Naga toes, kind of hard to be EoS back then

[untold crater]

Depends on how far back you go

[languid badge]

PvP is broken and dead. Why bother. It's either you have that one JERSEY fleet and you always win or you don't and you are a looser against the one. Simple as that.

[untold crater]

Found the dude with bad gears

[steel coral]

are you saying he's wrong?

[untold crater]

absolutely

new jersey? more like new percy

[languid badge]

Percy? More like Aquila

I'm lvl 129 shkikan. All my used gear is +13 and rainbow where possible

[steel coral]

smells like skill issue

[candid sluice]

very major skill issue

if u not winning with that gear idk what to tell u

[languid badge]

What do you mean skill issue? I can't control the fight. All I can is reset the battle for an hour and half to maybe some time win.

[untold crater]

are you trying to win with chen hai

[languid badge]

I'm trying to win against imbalanced ship with broken mechanics

[steel coral]

you're trying to win using bad ships

pvp and pve aren't the same

[untold crater]

just ignore

troll account

[steel coral]

I thought trolling was the whole point of this channel

[languid badge]

And I thought it's complaining and whining

[untold crater]

you do both

[calm mica]

Oh it's been a while since there's been a mono-faction complainer. Time to dust the violin off

[tall nimbus]

faction fleet

[untold crater]

bix moment

if you want to monofaction do USS or dont complain

either american or americant

[tall nimbus]

sad ijn

[languid badge]

@untold crater that's why I came.
I achieved madness. Madness is repeating something over and over again in hope that something will change. And I'm reseting the fight fo 2.5 hours straight

[calm mica]

USS mono is nice, but there's not much game-breaking backline to go alongside NJ. I think HMS would be better since you have percy and some pretty decent backup. Drake's also getting FS soon to help build frontrow up

[steel coral]

return to ijn

[languid badge]

Baggett is the best looking and the least g*y.

[untold crater]

??

[calm mica]

You forget how great Perseus is already?

She can beat NJ 1v1 before she does anything

[steel coral]

clearly you've never heard of ranger

[keen silo]

[languid badge]

There aren't 1v1 fights. Plus 15 sec is enough for NJ to destroy anything@calm mica

[keen silo]

build your fleet better

[languid badge]

Eat your veggies and brush your teeth @keen silo that's a better advise

[tall nimbus]

[keen silo]

U come here and complain about AL and bring up

irl

[languid badge]

I came to blow some steam of and post an opinion about mode being dead in hope of revival.

[untold crater]

known troll accounts

[keen silo]

ok u can do that somewhere else

doomposters for pvp who arent even using proper fleets are

[tall nimbus]

#game-feedback

[keen silo]

this tbh

[languid badge]

You JERSEY users have no honor, nor respect, nor beer

[keen silo]

anyway if u trying to use waifu over meta in pvp be prepared for losses

[calm mica]

pvp is dead and the HMS event will revive it

[languid badge]

Have I used nor correctly? Is it just no? Never heard the original phrase on English

[steel coral]

sure

[keen silo]

[languid badge]

Sometimes I'm using Helena as living shield, she can't die right away anyway

[keen silo]

Just use uss faction fleet and bring nj

next level strat

[steel coral]

use uss faction fleet and dont bring nj

[keen silo]

thats too big brain for me

[jolly lichen]

I don't know how many more edits you need there, but that's enough

[steel coral]

[keen silo]

[ancient skiff]

[calm mica]

[cinder wolf]

faction fleet is useless

[untold crater]

its fun

[languid badge]

Been warned. So you won't see me again anytime soon. Don't use discord much anyway.

[keen silo]

same buddy 😔

[untold crater]

?

[calm mica]

I think mono elite would be more interesting than mono faction

[cinder wolf]

if you find some fun out of it then ok

[steel coral]

abercrombie/erebus/terror

easy clap

[keen silo]

ok but

[untold crater]

more like

[keen silo]

is independence an elite

??????

[untold crater]

little new jersey

then its easy

[keen silo]

too ez

[cinder wolf]

little perse

[tall nimbus]

little mutsuki

[calm mica]

Imagine making a whole new level 125 indep that stops getting retrofit nodes right before the rarity change only for a pvp challenge

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

worth

[cinder wolf]

[keen silo]

u underestimate my simpness

[untold crater]

what rarity would little mutsuki be?

[calm mica]

UR

[steel coral]

probably LR

[keen silo]

LR

[untold crater]

🤔

[keen silo]

[ancient skiff]

[flat veldt]

[jolly lichen]

get back on-topic nerds

[untold crater]

you're right

[tall nimbus]

french faction bad

that's the topic

[untold crater]

anyway, the only viable mono-faction is USS and maybe IJN if you want to spend your day resetting

and italian can work

[keen silo]

nagashinaryuu

[uncut agate]

Marco Pogo

[tall nimbus]

ill take ijn over italian any day

noshi shima jintsuu

[cinder wolf]

how good mono uss tho

[untold crater]

impero over mp maybe

[tall nimbus]

enty nj indep

[keen silo]

idk

[untold crater]

II White II has a great one

[tall nimbus]

anchor juneau helena?

[keen silo]

NJ enty indep
ancho birmingham juneau

[tall nimbus]

oh yea birm

[keen silo]

maybe Seattle

uss got too much good shit

[tall nimbus]

ijn probs gonna be nagato shina hiryuu

[untold crater]

ancho/helena/seattle

[tall nimbus]

then there's tons of choices for vanguard

[untold crater]

nvm

ancho/birm/seattle

[cinder wolf]

sounds like ez to torps meme

[untold crater]

to buff indep

[tall nimbus]

yukikaze suzutsuki shimakaze noshiro jintsu naganami

[keen silo]

yeah

jts a torp meme + naga

[tall nimbus]

might as well put kii as well

[flat veldt]

II White II uses NJ/Enty/Hiryuu tho

[keen silo]

kii

[tall nimbus]

buff the hell out of torpmemes

[untold crater]

one season he had full uss

[cinder wolf]

put lvl 1 kii just like its an ex

[keen silo]

tanikaze

[tall nimbus]

[untold crater]

shiranui

[keen silo]

ok thats cringe

[tall nimbus]

kashino

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

best choice for vangs probably noshiro shima yuki/jintsu

[steel coral]

suzu?

[untold crater]

noshiro is way better than jint in pvp

[cinder wolf]

idk suzut is defensive vangs, just wanna meme

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

yuki being defensive but still have huge trp stat and backline dmg reduction so id still consider

[candid sluice]

we got a troll in this channel?

dont post that u will get banned

[keen silo]

no memes in this channel

[steel coral]

everything I post is 100% related to pvp

[tall nimbus]

skill issue is 100% related to pvp

[steel coral]

I wouldn't know

[untold crater]

Yeah, you're skill issue transcends pvp, you have skill issue in pvp too

[jolly lichen]

this is going to go down like gph, stay on topic, limit the meme reacts to 0, you'll have a grand old time

[steel coral]

business as usual

[candid sluice]

told u

[tall nimbus]

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

rule 1. fun is not allowed in this channel

[calm mica]

No relaxing guys. Only the most serious of pvp fleet building and discussions at all times

[flat veldt]

[keen silo]

[flat veldt]

[untold crater]

how many resets?

[calm mica]

More like how many seconds

[untold crater]

23, richelieu only needed to fire twice.

[flat veldt]

Luckily no reset needed but he fought with great honor

[keen silo]

no NJ

[flat veldt]

How are your guys' pace so far?

[candid sluice]

;pace 9 1269

[untold crater]

8/10 1323

[flat veldt]

Wrong server

[untold crater]

something like 10/10 1246

[flint python]

unultra at 6/9 2420

[untold crater]

is that a meme i see?

mods? warn him

[flint python]

you're saying unultra is a memeM

[flat veldt]

Excuse me, are you trying to have fun here?

[flint python]

?

[untold crater]

apologies

[calm mica]

This but flip the numbers

[untold crater]

only -18?

oh wait

6421...

[calm mica]

If I was having fun, I'd say yes, 6421. But instead I'll say I actually have 1264

[flat veldt]

[candid sluice]

i wonder what unultras pace is

he probably has aotn already

[keen silo]

1258 10/10

slow pace

[flat veldt]

You can win, I believe in you

[keen silo]

no chance. plasma in my server

[flat veldt]

Anything is possible as long as Unultra isn't in your server

[shy dove]

Oh my lord. What a high score

[late heath]

they raise the white flag the moment the battle started

[untold crater]

Typical Frenchies

[flat veldt]

preloaded white flag?

[last swan]

brah with his curse emo collection

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

Spee emote users

[light crystal]

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

imagine not using speepo emotes

[tall nimbus]

[cinder wolf]

is drake good for pvp?

[fleet laurel]

It is no problem to give juneau random main gun and torp?

[cinder wolf]

yeah wont matter much

can give her gun with aa stat too if you dont have any good gun to spare

[untold crater]

juneau does like 5k dmg

on a good day

[keen silo]

2k

[candid sluice]

give her the duck gun for aa boost

[neon bronze]

i dunno why

[untold crater]

Translation?

[candid sluice]

oh i seen that guy before

[neon bronze]

confusing oathed shipgirl names.

speaking of that comp... is an shan worth it in pvp? Like i use purely torp DD in frontline. I assume it's decent against comps like mine

[keen silo]

no

[rotund bloom]

That pinned fleet still meta ?

[candid sluice]

yes

[rotund bloom]

I see , thanks

[queen raptor]

guys, is this fleet ok? other than the low level is the arrangement of the vanguard good? or are there any better options?

[keen silo]

no vv?

[uncut agate]

or Perseus or Independence?

[cinder wolf]

or seyd

[keen silo]

seyd

[queen raptor]

vv?

[uncut agate]

hmmm, my 3rd main fleet ship fdg, i don't judge

[keen silo]

Vittorio

[queen raptor]

ah i have

[keen silo]

@cinder wolf have u test seyd + fdg fleet

[keen silo]

check pins for model pvp fleet

[queen raptor]

ah ok ok

just wondering, where do you prefer to place juneue. in the center or in the left?

[keen silo]

left if not using anchorage

[cinder wolf]

using seyd and agir, surprisingly works ok

[keen silo]

i was thinking of this recently

[cinder wolf]

doing ok againts cv?

revealing and whatnot

[keen silo]

idk if fdg can reveal fully but i will test when my seyd leveld

no chip for non tech

[cinder wolf]

i can try later, alr maxed seyd for funzies

[keen silo]

thanks

[cinder wolf]

cant reveal

[north sentinel]

Fdg needs richy in order to fully reveal

[cinder wolf]

halfbar at most and opponents aquila did half the job

yeah

[keen silo]

it goes in the trash then

I guess seyd no place with 3 bb

[north sentinel]

She works with nj and fdg just fine

Ideally you want 1 other ib for seyd full benefits

[keen silo]

how u reveal with nj and fdg then

if u using seyd

he barrage?

[north sentinel]

H.e barrage has dot

[keen silo]

Yea but rumi said above

it not enough to reveal with seyd/fdg

if u read convo

[north sentinel]

Sorry didnt read all

[keen silo]

all good

[north sentinel]

Seyd richy and nj

[keen silo]

so, which would you drop for riche? fdg?

[candid sluice]

leipzig

[keen silo]

and just use agir?

[north sentinel]

If you have dev 30 agir use her

[keen silo]

[north sentinel]

She works well in my comps

[keen silo]

I saw your def fleet on washington tho i dont play there

[north sentinel]

There are time where she outlives ancho with manju

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

agir slow torps sync pretty well with seyd 80% reduction

but faster opponent vangs still dodging the salvoes most of time

[royal flare]

scrolls up... see's drama... See's people still going on about Perseus... Giggles
Never changes 🤣

[untold crater]

perseus is a viable pvp ship, i dont get it

[mellow charm]

valentine is just a hater, ignore him

[cinder wolf]

winning against mafia using perse ez

[untold crater]

Have above 50% WR vs Morp

[royal flare]

Yes. But she's not a god tier ship able to win games single handedly.
Which is exactly what all the whinging about her seems to suggest.
Honestly these people make is sound like a level 1 Perseus is better than a level 125 Langley.
So dumb.

[royal flare]

If me thinking people are overreacting makes me a hater...then I'm a hater with basic bitch ships who's sunk more fleets with Perseus than I've lost against.
But that's not the definition of a hater...so I dunno what you're babbling on about...
I mean at least I'm not one of those sad losers who quits as soon as the fight starts 🤣
But it's no different to when people were whinging about enterprise and I had no major problems against her.

Once you break the vanguard the rearguard isn't important. You've won.

[mellow charm]

too long didnt read

[royal flare]

I had low expectations of your capacity for reading. So don't worry.

[mellow charm]

ok hater

keep malding

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864969051163066409/864972572952363028/14_-_JnVsWen.gif

[royal flare]

Yes I will continue to sink Perseus

[mellow charm]

alright liar

[royal flare]

If you thinking I'm lying over a mobile game helps you sleep at night then please do continue to think so

[jolly lichen]

Does this really need to be happening here

Or are we going to start hitting people for trolling in here too

[royal flare]

Eh. I'll just take my lying ass elsewhere 🤣

[late heath]

[rich cedar]

For what reasons is VV used over Richelieu? Is it just buffing Aquila and Duca?

[north sentinel]

aside from the buffs she provides for aquilla and duca she gives the whole fleet torp damage reduction, shes also more versatile for not being locked to flagship or h.e guns

[calm mica]

3 salvoes easier to hit than 2 as well

[tall nimbus]

[candid sluice]

[last swan]

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

can confirm, 3 is greater than 2 👍

[sour oasis]

Richelieu doesn't really need HE guns (do auto shots still get a damage boost via her 3rd skill?). But even if she has an AP gun, her barrage is still HE.

[keen silo]

p sure it still buffs yea

even if its auto

not the manual part the part after

[uncut agate]

well, her main gun can set big fires

[cunning jay]

how does kronk do in pvp?

[candid sluice]

alright

[uncut agate]

usable ig

[cunning jay]

also, can anyone explain why shima uses the quint mk ix instead of that rainbow 610?

[candid sluice]

tighter spread allows for her to nuke more consistently

and 610s suffer from poor spread

the teatorps are used only with blacktorp aux tho

[cunning jay]

what's the alternative for the backline if I don't have VV?

[candid sluice]

who do u have

[uncut agate]

the tea torp in action

[cunning jay]

the other backline URs ulrich and shinano

[candid sluice]

just send an ss of your bb dock

[cunning jay]

can't send it now, but I have all of the SR BBs other than VV, Tosa, Gascan muse, Massachusetts, KagaBB and Jean Bart. Then I have dev 25 FDG, FS5 Gascan for consideration.
NJ is alrady on my PVP backline

I also ran juneau instead of duca on the frontline due to lack of VV

[candid sluice]

maybe richy could work

u could try seydlit too

[keen silo]

you can try shinano hiryuu fleet

instead of mafia

[cunning jay]

shinano hiryuu NJ?

[keen silo]

yuh

[cunning jay]

would duca still work with the lack of VV's buff?

[candid sluice]

yes

[keen silo]

yeah she works

[candid sluice]

some ppl even slot out vitorio but still use luigi

[uncut agate]

Yup, haven't used VV with duca in a while myself

[candid sluice]

vitorio is probs the most replaceable tbh

so just use whoever u have

[frosty goblet]

[untold crater]

Forget VV, I even replace my Aquila and Duca

[cinder wolf]

so pro

[flint python]

can replace everything as long as percie carry

[brisk stirrup]

Did I just witness a bug in PvP? Both Vanguards were dead, it was my full back line(NJ, UVH and Warspite) vs a singular full hp Enterprise, the reload timer showed all 3 had their guns loaded. But none of them shot, at all.

[uncut agate]

Enty was hidden, your BBs couldn't target her

/detection

[coral wren]

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

[dapper stone]

what's best bb aux gun?

[brisk stirrup]

I clearly don’t know how the game works kek

[void geyser]

Nepgun (Triple 152mm in HMS gear lab) for CL gun aux
Twin 128 (Ironblood gear lab) for DD guns aux

[untold crater]

Percy Doubters in shambles RN

[hard quail]

Out-damaged NJ

[untold crater]

This is below average damage for Percy

But she had no equips during battle so only 20k dmg

[flat veldt]

Turns out those Percy haters were bragging about how they "beat" an unequipped Perseus my head

Can't wait to see them try to fight a properly equipped HMS fleet

[keen silo]

[flat veldt]

sorry wrong channel, no one saw that

[candid sluice]

[keen silo]

[flat veldt]

[light crystal]

Imagine putting your NJ bottom

[calm mica]

Bottom on offense, top on defense

Yeah, no kink shaming. On that note, most torpedoes naturally curve upwards

[flat veldt]

Dam... mine curves down maybe I should see my peeveepee doctor

[light crystal]

[flat veldt]

[candid sluice]

[flat veldt]

[keen silo]

[uncut agate]

I don't use NJ in my defence fleet

[untold crater]

[uncut agate]

[winged depot]

Don't put any defense fleet

[calm mica]

I put an easy fleet in. Helps to stack server score if you're not screwing over your EoS 10s

[untold crater]

slowly but surely these tryhard fleets will disappear

[keen silo]

ok but u have perseus in your defense fleet

thats like, mega cringe bro???

[calm mica]

That was one time, just to prove a point

[keen silo]

[sour oasis]

Except Avrora. Tryhards just don't retire.

[untold crater]

Lost cause

[candid sluice]

you know what else is cringe

0 movers

[rustic bridge]

what is easy on this

[untold crater]

Right most

He's low level so he's definitely lacking good equips

[rustic bridge]

Has highter fleet Power as i

[candid sluice]

[untold crater]

as expected

[rustic bridge]

he as better fleet Power i hav e only luck on this win

[steel coral]

believe in the heart of the cards

[rustic bridge]

Take more Power

[candid sluice]

You know what would give u more power

Using lvl125 botes

[untold crater]

Not really

Like half your FP comes from equips

So better equips would gave way more FP than a few LvLs

[rustic bridge]

Not good enought

[gray beacon]

𓁹‿𓁹

[untold crater]

Can I win? @rustic bridge you're the expert so I'd like your take

[rustic bridge]

For what juneau

[untold crater]

Can I beat his fleet with mine? 🤔

[rustic bridge]

i say non

[untold crater]

[rustic bridge]

[untold crater]

Attacker buff makes pvp too easy

Lv 71 gears beating lv130 gears with oathed and 125 ships

[keen silo]

wow so pro @untold crater

[untold crater]

not pro

[flat veldt]

Would've been a loss if he had Perseus instead of Chise

[untold crater]

Nope, TW server is different, enemy Perseus also heals your fleet

Over there it's all friendly

[flat veldt]

There's homie stocking in PvP?

[keen silo]

[flat veldt]

[untold crater]

I jv4 Percy

Or is it jv6 in AL?

[flat veldt]

I think just 6 stock if none of your ships sink kinda weird to define JV in AL

[untold crater]

JV because I use Percy to keep my ships at 100% HP

[keen silo]

[flat veldt]

[lost lance]

Rather new player but how does this mob team look should I change anything? Someone told me I need a healer so I threw on vestal but idk

[keen silo]

i s that for pvp

or gameplay help?

if it for pve better use unicorn over vesteal

[lost lance]

I saw someone get redirected here lol I didn’t want to make the same mistake lol

[keen silo]

also better mob flag that isnt war kai

[lost lance]

Ok thank you I’ll do some more research

[keen silo]

usually when ppl get redirected to this channel, gameplay helpers usually dont want to deal with them if a question is about excercises

however you should just ignore them

[frank pebble]

how good is Seattle?

[keen silo]

Good

worse than juneau offtank but very good

[frank pebble]

Do i still need to restart my game after every match to get updated results?

[sudden bough]

if youre talking about opponents, then restarting doesnt do anything, but if you want to see the updated leaderboard, then yes you need to restart

[frank pebble]

ty

[keen silo]

thats not true

restart can show changes in rank/points

[candid sluice]

thats what they mean

[keen silo]

o fuck, en

[sudden bough]

[late heath]

useable but need FS V

[frank pebble]

damn, she's fs IV

and sadly, not a pokemon...

[fallow granite]

should I put NJ as flag or Richy as flag?

the other ship's Aquila which definitely shouldn't be flag

[keen silo]

richeleiu

[fallow granite]

ok thanks

is this like a good build to replace vit from that meta screenshot? (I don't have vit)

[keen silo]

use seydlitz fleet

with agir

[fallow granite]

I'm following the pinned message one

[keen silo]

na im jus playing around your team looks fine

[fallow granite]

I've realized I have all the required vanguard ship and only doesn't have vit

[fallow granite]

hm

so now the only main problem is vit and the gears since I don't have a few of them

[keen silo]

which do you not have ?

[fallow granite]

first is the ship which is only vit but that's no problem as I have richy

[keen silo]

richy gear is fine but u should ask someone who plays mafia fleet

cuz I dont

[fallow granite]

then it's the Washington board thing which I can probably get very soon, boomer FCR which I'm 1 blueprint away, and nearly all of the vanguard gears

[keen silo]

i dont know much about mafia gear or whether Richy can replace vv

[fallow granite]

oh right and also those UR planes

[keen silo]

the Aux gear?

[keen silo]

you need wyvern, tenrai can be sub out for helldiver

[fallow granite]

I'm just ok sticking with my current Aux

but also why does Aquila use sea hornet in there

[keen silo]

you should use those aux for pvp guess u can change shima setup

[keen silo]

its better than tigercat in pvp

[winged depot]

Is brah still your ign in amagi

[fallow granite]

isn't tigercat slower, has 10 more hp, and dodges 2 more times?

[keen silo]

I dont play amagi

i am lexington

[winged depot]

[fallow granite]

the only downside of tigercat is it's 0.2s slower reload

[keen silo]

tigercat has plane speed differential

[fallow granite]

is slower better or faster better?

tigercat is 8 speed slower than sea hornet or at least the wiki says that

[keen silo]

Faster is better thats why seahornet is better

[fallow granite]

hm

[flat veldt]

Amagi alt when?

[keen silo]

soon

[winged depot]

Jebaiting ppl with roles

[keen silo]

gonna set one up a while before nano rerun

[fallow granite]

what other non gear lab main guns can replace nj's main gun

I don't have the UR main gun

[keen silo]

this is me

@winged depot

[keen silo]

Use the mk4 AP gun, its a slightly weaker version

[candid sluice]

Send ss of your gear

[fallow granite]

ok

do I need to make a thread or no?

[keen silo]

No

pvp is not gph

[fallow granite]

ok

[keen silo]

i guess just craft a 406 mk4 tho thats bad resource usage pve-wise especially for newer player

[fallow granite]

wdym craft

is it gear lab?

[keen silo]

gearlab gun, the one that takes a fuck ton of electronics

[fallow granite]

yes I don't have gearlab materials

that's the main problem

[keen silo]

yep 2 months of opsi and you are set

can get wyvern too

[coral wren]

Yes, Akagi-Chan and Bataan got the badass MVP kills

[fallow granite]

right... I just finished chapter 4 and unlocked most of opsi 3 days ago

so wait what do I give for my nj now

[keen silo]

i guess champy gun not many good options except mayeb the fdg gun

[candid sluice]

What purple guns u have

[candid sluice]

Do u have hpfcr

[fallow granite]

no

[candid sluice]

Try fdg gun or champgun whichever works better

[fallow granite]

what's fdg gun

[candid sluice]

Top right

[fallow granite]

the double barrel one?

[candid sluice]

yes

[fallow granite]

that's great because richy was using that when being in normal mob so it's basically a swap between nj and richy

[dapper stone]

So is Seydlitz any good?

[candid sluice]

Testing is still in progress

[mellow summit]

Who can replace Duca?

[uncut agate]

Noshiro ig

[mellow summit]

And Aquila gets flag?

[candid sluice]

vitorio does

[mellow summit]

Ah I don't have Duca or Noshiro so I'll just fill 3rd slot with like poikai for rn ig

[keen silo]

nah just use Juneau

or seattle

[worn warren]

How is this pvp fleet

[keen silo]

roon and ibuki

it looks like exp fleet anw so whatever

[worn warren]

Ibuki and shima for torp and Roon for survivabilety :>

I guess

[keen silo]

Use a better fleet if you want to pvp properly

[mellow summit]

Why Juneau?

[keen silo]

she heals

[candid sluice]

what are your other options

[worn warren]

My dock?

@candid sluice

[candid sluice]

use that aquila

[keen silo]

aquila

[candid sluice]

buki out lena in

[keen silo]

He shud raise good 3rd vanguard

ancho/juneau

[candid sluice]

if youre looking to work towards a better pvp fleet u should start raising that aquila and build anchorage

but for now the immediate improvement would be to replace buki with lena

only because the other ships are already high level

[worn warren]

Still need to level her skills :>

Yes am doing that rn

[mellow summit]

Aquila is amazing in PVP, seems like we did the opposite, I got Vittorio in the event and not aquila lol

[frosty goblet]

[candid sluice]

🤝

[keen silo]

same bro

[frosty goblet]

pwos everywhere

[keen silo]

retired man, my pace below 2610

[worn warren]

looks away at not having bothered to level aquilla since the last event where you could get her

[uncut agate]

I'm surprised by the lack of a Duca, she was the event shop ship

[mellow summit]

Yeahhh Idk what I was doing tbh

I dont even remember the event

Just know I got VV in it

[uncut agate]

[worn warren]

Got here here. Didnt do much with her tho

[frosty goblet]

[candid sluice]

Good ship level up

[north sentinel]

Can confirm shes very good in pvp

[cinder wolf]

pretty decent if you dont have italians, and requires another top kms like agir to works well

[dapper stone]

dont have any of the italians that actually matter

[keen silo]

seems like

[cinder wolf]

with maxed agir to pair with i still able to by pass mafia fleets np

[keen silo]

u using aquila tho

or not anymore

[cinder wolf]

hiryuu works too

[keen silo]

maybe I raise seyd to try

no more shinano fleet

[cinder wolf]

seyd outdps nj sometimes if she manage to land salvoes when dying

[keen silo]

Send me gear if can, i will try when i 120 her

or 125

[cinder wolf]

bur still not in italian fleet lvl since i need few reset to beat minmax players

[keen silo]

maybe it not better than weeb fleet then

[cinder wolf]

im using +13 457, nelson flag, +13 white shell

havent found any decent weebs to test

[keen silo]

nelson flag good?

[cinder wolf]

make her dying early for dmg boost

and protect agir cus shes super vulnerable on preload spam

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

imo still decent choice if you missed italian or shinano

[keen silo]

ya, heavy armor weak to preload

is it better than richy warkai

[cinder wolf]

and not gonna try non NJ setup cus im not an M

[keen silo]

only yukana use non nj team

need so many reset

[cinder wolf]

lutzow/seyd/hiryu anchor/yuki/juneau
probably for newer player who missed prev meta ships

[keen silo]

wtf

[dapper stone]

missed lutzow 😄

[cinder wolf]

just grabbing good permanent ships + latest kms ship

[keen silo]

can use agir I guess

then last vg warkai or something

[cinder wolf]

yeah if they manage to max agir

[candid sluice]

leipzig

dont sleep

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

not sure, lutzow get the preload too thats still pretty strong too

really need to test but no coggies

need to test the flat 3k dmg proc too

[keen silo]

evasion tech

I also running out of coggies after maxing all avi/hit tech

[cinder wolf]

anyone can confirm the 3k flat proc?, like do every salvo has chance to proc and is there a cooldown for each proc

[pseudo copper]

I can't afford any, all out, so no DD FP after this

[keen silo]

[frosty goblet]

[north sentinel]

This is what i run for seydlitz

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

you dont want hpfcr, most ppl running anchorage

[candid sluice]

[frosty goblet]

[rustic bridge]

Can i win on this

[untold crater]

possible

[rustic bridge]

fdg allone is realy strong

Need a better tank

[candid sluice]

maybe saltybelfast will be the one to topple unultra

[rustic bridge]

[candid sluice]

you are very good at this game

[keen silo]

salty recognisea salry

real recognise real

[candid sluice]

🏹 🤝

[rustic bridge]

[flint python]

[royal flare]

If you make a defence force...out of the most adorable characters...nobody will want to challenge you...hence you'll never lose!
Big brain plays 😎

[flat veldt]

This fleet will 100% wall out @steel coral

[steel coral]

I could never fight ranger

[royal flare]

Exactly. Perfect strat

[flat veldt]

So if your leftmost was a Ranger fleet and you were out of refreshes, you would rather take the -1 than fight Ranger?

[steel coral]

ofc

[flat veldt]

[royal flare]

I'm actually surprised blue characters all with mostly level 6 blue gear nearly reaches 10000/10000.
If I can get it all to level 6 equipment and level 100 ships that'll probably hit the 10000/10000 mark 👍🏻
That's not to bad for people to beat. After all we want people to get those points

[cinder wolf]

no preload

[royal flare]

It's a defence force. Preload isn't important. In fact nothing is important in your defence. It's your dick around fleet

[flat veldt]

Need more of those fleets in Amagi

Although that means NArd won't be able to get another EoS R1

[royal flare]

Well if you're in Amagi you might spot it since that's the one I'm in haha

[untold crater]

🤔

[pseudo copper]

Unultra alt?

[mellow charm]

Wehraboo detected, opinion rejected

[flat veldt]

Bottom NJ enjoyer

[royal flare]

Time to work on a new offensive fleet that's probably gonna give people a hernia for not being meta 😎
(Although still Javelin as I have no other Gold RN DD)

[gray beacon]

Looking forward to getting that javelin skin

[royal flare]

Same. Free skins I'll take all day. That's my favourite price

[sour oasis]

Which Javelin skin is this? School outfit?

[royal flare]

Yes. Slow ahead I think it's called.

[harsh knot]

It's the name of the show/manga

[rustic bridge]

what where good next tom use as flag ship

[untold crater]

Jean bart can work

[candid sluice]

Shiver me timbers double preload

[keen silo]

+ =

[flat veldt]

[keen silo]

=

[arctic sluice]

I HATE SHIMIKAZE

one shots your vanguard