pvp

[cinder wolf]

cant find it

[candid sluice]

its pinned in the pvp channel of our guild

[cinder wolf]

oh ok

[keen silo]

o i was about to send it

[cinder wolf]

amagi second best now

[keen silo]

ayo im in the chart

based

[cinder wolf]

which one

[keen silo]

[tall nimbus]

"I'd be first if i didn't miss 5 attacks"

[cinder wolf]

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

i think the chart did salty dirty

second place name not visible

[keen silo]

should have picked a shorter name salty

[cinder wolf]

mikoto has long ass name still visible tho

[keen silo]

ye

[cinder wolf]

oh maybe mikoto took the space

[candid sluice]

mobile

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

[candid sluice]

its visible on desktop

[tall nimbus]

[flint python]

[cinder wolf]

matcha also gone

[candid sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/948793449669357598/unknown.png

there more visible

[cinder wolf]

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

oh kaya was missing too

[candid sluice]

3 cult members

[river marsh]

who's the top 1 guy?

i've never seen his name before

[keen silo]

pretty sure hes active here

[cinder wolf]

@late heath

[candid sluice]

hes the kashino simp

[river marsh]

i legit have never heard of him until now

[tall nimbus]

[cinder wolf]

staying low bracket for too long

[trail temple]

Oh hey, I made the ladder this season

last*

[keen silo]

time to bag harder

[river marsh]

tryhard this season

[trail temple]

Stay rushers, better for your sanity

[river marsh]

i'll tryhard just this once

[keen silo]

and for ours as well

[trail temple]

[keen silo]

a mover a day keeps the doctor away

[cinder wolf]

id rush for the bois

[trail temple]

I got no bois on Washy

[tall nimbus]

i rush for the sleep

[trail temple]

And even less on Avrora

[keen silo]

avrora

[cinder wolf]

time to main amagi

[trail temple]

I get cucked by Famine and his bois

[keen silo]

anyone got spare jp account

[trail temple]

[keen silo]

their resets better for my mental health

[cinder wolf]

team effort for 2600 lets go

[candid sluice]

we just need a lvl100 cmd pack ez server hopping

[keen silo]

need a shinano pack

[flint python]

sorry I can't give my account away

[keen silo]

i wasn’t serious

[cinder wolf]

pvp pack pls, nj+aquila in a box

[flint python]

when will we have Mafia fleet pack

[keen silo]

finally

i can enjoy beating up on people in 5 seconds

[candid sluice]

just need aquila pack we good

[cinder wolf]

premium pvp pack included enough protocore to buy 457 out of shop

[keen silo]

why tf does this pin exist?

[cinder wolf]

deluxe pack include shima + black torps

[trail temple]

PvP back to include the meta from early 2020

Not like it's not on perm gacha anyway

[tall nimbus]

triple bb pack

[keen silo]

just need richelieu pack for poverty

[cinder wolf]

cv meta pack included perse

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

tEX pack

doesnt include drek

[oblique silo]

So I hear someone was acting a fool and saying Perseus is good in PvP

[keen silo]

Plasma u late

tsk tsk

[candid sluice]

bit late to the party bro

[pseudo copper]

He's not as late as me

[untold crater]

Idk

I will use Perseus this season

[keen silo]

yukana moment

[untold crater]

The reality of pvp is very simple

All fleets pretty much work as long as you have the gear to back it up

PvE ships are viable if you're willing to reset

[tall nimbus]

use abercrombie erebus terror

[untold crater]

Do I get to choose my vanguard?

[tall nimbus]

yes

[untold crater]

Or do I also have to use the worst ships possible

I'll see if I can beat a mafia fleet with that

[tall nimbus]

[untold crater]

Wait nvm I don't have those 120 since I do t touch BB/BM/BC

[tall nimbus]

[untold crater]

Pick from CVs

[tall nimbus]

chen hai houshou long island

[candid sluice]

langley

long island is legit

[untold crater]

Yeah don't give me quick takeoff CV otherwise too easy

[royal beacon]

Ranger

[flint python]

manjuu nevada meta

[untold crater]

Hiyou? Junyou? Elbe? What you need?

[candid sluice]

ill give u three sr carriers

[tall nimbus]

langley should be fine

[candid sluice]

illustrious bunker victorious

[untold crater]

I don't play campaign

[candid sluice]

aight intrep then

[tall nimbus]

damn dis backline is trash

cant equip white shell so i have to use manjuu

[candid sluice]

10k power

[keen silo]

[flint python]

[untold crater]

What's a list of planes I can equip on Chen Hai? Only have seirans and that event plane

[tall nimbus]

[trail temple]

She only uses seaplanes

[untold crater]

What's the best seaplane

[trail temple]

Seirens or the event planes are your options

[untold crater]

Oh

[trail temple]

Legit

She can use DD guns in her 2nd plane slot

[candid sluice]

isnt there one in gear lab

[trail temple]

She can't equip those

If you're thinking about the gold ones

[candid sluice]

bruh tf

[pseudo copper]

Chen Hai isn't worst backliner for nothing

Only thing she gives is +1 CV RLD

[untold crater]

13k backline, I think if Langley carries I can beat a good mafia

[tall nimbus]

[pseudo copper]

[candid sluice]

is this new meta

[pseudo copper]

We need a pvp expert to confirm

Think we had one on earlier

[candid sluice]

call up the agents

what do they think about this

[north sentinel]

Just use mutsuki

[untold crater]

Regardless, my point stands, you can use top PvE ships in PvP if you gear them correctly

[trail temple]

Didn't all the "agents" get banned from here?

[candid sluice]

@crude mortar wassup

[crude mortar]

[tall nimbus]

[pseudo copper]

[trail temple]

The argument from before wasn't about whether you could do something, it's whether that something was actually good

Now if your success rate is pretty low, regardless of whether you come out at the end, it's simply not good

[untold crater]

?

[tall nimbus]

this should scare some plebs

[untold crater]

All I know

[late heath]

It’s like making love, you can get it done but that doesn’t mean you’re good at it

[candid sluice]

very good analogy

[untold crater]

I bet I could sandbag just as hard use Percy/NJ/WK or mafia

You can get rank 1 with Percy fleet still 😴

[trail temple]

Wanna put your money where your mouth is Yukana? This season

[untold crater]

Ok!

If I don't overcap, I will!

[jolly lichen]

It was a difference in reading, I interpreted it as "good enough" you interpreted it as "good for all cases"
my bad on recommending perseus at all though, felt pretty dogshit running her/warkai/enty/random vg just to prove a point

[candid sluice]

u providing beer?

[untold crater]

PvP has very little to do with fleet building and a lot more to do with sandbagging at a higher level, thought everyone would know that 😴

Ofc you can sandbag harder with a better/faster killing fleet, doesn't change the fact that if you don't play properly it doesn't matter

[tall nimbus]

what if i can't defeat the rusher

[untold crater]

Gear.

[jolly lichen]

there's always next season

[untold crater]

If you can't beat a fleet without using the top meta, you have a gear issue.

[tall nimbus]

ill test this out once i see someone with a good def fleet

[pseudo copper]

BMs all the way

[candid sluice]

aight lemme see if i can win this season using my wifus

[untold crater]

Again

Why take it so extreme

You really wanna compare Perseus to BMs?

[tall nimbus]

won't be using BMs

ill use a semi decent team

[candid sluice]

i dont wife lolis bro

[untold crater]

Do you have the gear to back up the fleet?

[tall nimbus]

of course

[untold crater]

ok!

[candid sluice]

indeed

[untold crater]

If there's a fleet you can't beat tell me, I'll match your fleet and see if I can beat it

[candid sluice]

u doing same fleet offense defense or just attack

[untold crater]

If I can't, I was wrong

I don't touch my defense

[candid sluice]

fair nough

ill see what fleet i can conjure with my oaths

[tall nimbus]

do i waste cog arrays is the question

[untold crater]

Yeah I'll need to 125 Chen hai/ Langley / houshou

[candid sluice]

shit u right lol

[untold crater]

At least they're cheap

[candid sluice]

wtv theyre wifu anyw

[tall nimbus]

what are good vanguard ships accessible to new players?

outside of yukikaze

[pseudo copper]

Juneau

[tall nimbus]

who else

[untold crater]

Yuudachi

[pseudo copper]

Yuudachi is not accessible

Retro item is event locked

[untold crater]

W6-4?

Oh right not in shop yet

Helena is usable

[pseudo copper]

G Sandy not too bad of a choice, though not gonna do much either, Helena works maybe

[tall nimbus]

yeah i was choosing between helena or ayanami

[untold crater]

Ayanami not as good from my experience

[candid sluice]

Probably lena yea

[tall nimbus]

do i swap hiryuu in and for who?

[candid sluice]

Do u need to swap her in

[tall nimbus]

not really

[crude mortar]

MANJU NJ

[cinder wolf]

whats going on

[untold crater]

Challenge

[cinder wolf]

all is from "is perse good?"

[tall nimbus]

[late heath]

Bache

[flat veldt]

[untold crater]

[tall nimbus]

dis such a risky test

would've lost if i wasn't fast enough to click pause

[cinder wolf]

i just dont see the point of doing it

[tall nimbus]

[untold crater]

For fun

[strange tide]

Oh, I think I overcapped.

Welp.

[untold crater]

Overcap4Ever

why did you overcap this time was it sleep»

[cinder wolf]

damn
could have been rank 1

[untold crater]

uyea..

[strange tide]

Nah I just forgot while trying to sandbag.

Though honestly I don't care since the season started with my first four this season not moving an inch the whole 12 hours.

And even now not a single inch is moved.

[untold crater]

Early season doesn't matter lol

[keen silo]

same bro.

[calm mica]

You got 2 movers at least. Could be worse, like mine

[untold crater]

Nice list

[calm mica]

Yep. My list is 10/10 after all

[flint python]

fk I missed 5 exercises

could have been rank 0

[untold crater]

I missed 0 exercises

I could have been rank 5

[keen silo]

rank 5 with perseus

[untold crater]

Nop

Percy only rank 50000

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

Shit I overcapped at least 2

Could’ve been rank 1

[strange tide]

[tawny umbra]

who would win ?

💢

[untold crater]

who ever doesnt proc lucky e will lose

or timing difference will add up

[tawny umbra]

funny thing is from the moment i took this, they all proc skill and plane at same time

i lost because they finally gain no miss 😦

[untold crater]

weird, enty dodges everything for 8s after lucky e proc

[tawny umbra]

[jolly lichen]

sir this is a wendy's

[proven tangle]

lol funny

[jolly lichen]

yeah the joke was you're in the wrong channel

[proven tangle]

it said 1v1

pvp

[jolly lichen]

finish reading the channel description, then the server rules, then get back to me

[proven tangle]

oh ok

[last swan]

What a moderator

[candid sluice]

[calm mica]

[rustic spade]

I beat the

[cinder wolf]

missed 5 matches nuooo

my aotn

[flat veldt]

dream ded

[cinder wolf]

missed matches?

[flat veldt]

no no, the team effort

[trail temple]

Giving Yukana the rank 1 now

[flat veldt]

nah, unultra already got rank 1

he's already won this season and moved onto the next one

[cinder wolf]

[trail temple]

[calm mica]

So the question now is who will be the first to lose to unultra

[candid sluice]

We can only hope for second place when unultra is playing

[keen silo]

[river marsh]

how many points do you guys have in pvp rn?

im at 503 rn

best fleet in pvp comp rn?

[keen silo]

why u trolling here

[river marsh]

wdym

[keen silo]

[pseudo copper]

No, triple Ranger and Kashino is better

[keen silo]

use this

[pseudo copper]

For reference

[candid sluice]

depends who u ask

[keen silo]

[tall nimbus]

cant beat this guy with the pleb fleet i was using

not gonna mald for 30 more mins

[keen silo]

ancho middle and shima off

[river marsh]

[tall nimbus]

the closest i got was enty vs nj 1v1

[keen silo]

[tall nimbus]

enty aint winning that

[river marsh]

duca is the frontmost vanguard

in that comp?

and ancho is backmost?

[keen silo]

Ancho shima luigi

that order

[candid sluice]

look at the numbers

[river marsh]

i mean in the one salty sent

ah

[candid sluice]

1 flag 2 top 3 bottom 1 front 2 mid 3 off

[river marsh]

ancho is frontmost

[cinder wolf]

use perse to heal enty

[tall nimbus]

[flint python]

new meta

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

shoulda used manju on enty smh

[keen silo]

@tall nimbus does your enty have 72k hp?

just checking

[tall nimbus]

enty manjuu might actually work

though idk if he has nj manjuu since i never managed to kill his nj

[cinder wolf]

the higher enty hp the bigger perse heals

[flat veldt]

[tall nimbus]

guys how do i unlock 72k hp enty?

[flint python]

only 72k?

[candid sluice]

first change your name to staagprince

[tall nimbus]

okay done

[keen silo]

[tall nimbus]

[keen silo]

indep good?

[tall nimbus]

72k hp independence

[pseudo copper]

Indep hot, as such is automatically good

[keen silo]

true, my queen

[pseudo copper]

But RNGer hotter, and as such is better

[keen silo]

i switch to Birmingham

[pseudo copper]

@steel coral Brah doubting RNGer supremacy

[keen silo]

[tall nimbus]

was about to test another team but he was running double fighter aquila

ez win

[candid sluice]

new meta??

[tall nimbus]

yes

[cinder wolf]

double fighters aquila to compete with perse superb heals

[untold crater]

[dapper stone]

5 exercises left, did I fuck up?

I never get people that actually play, even in the last minutes before resets

[untold crater]

You're fine

A bit behind but it's early season so it doesn't matter

[cinder wolf]

damn, that could have been rank 1

[untold crater]

Yeah, you could have been 602 pts assuming no minuses there

Or 603 actually

[tall nimbus]

new meta???

[untold crater]

Yeah

Current meta

[calm mica]

I thought Hamman was the OP one?

Sims should be off-meta

[untold crater]

Sims counter specific fleets

Hamman for general use

[cinder wolf]

[trail temple]

I see your sussy tactics Mr 72k HP Enty

[mellow charm]

Amogus

[rustic bridge]

once again an impossible start, I have no chance against anyone, everyone has stronger fleet power than me

[jolly lichen]

ganbare salty, you can do it

[rustic bridge]

secure

[jolly lichen]

this is like the waifu challenge people were bringing up earlier, but you have neither the levels nor the gear

[candid sluice]

bro arent u cmd lvl 120

why are u struggling

[untold crater]

?

PvP is for leveling

Always level ships there

[rustic bridge]

I won in a weird way

[untold crater]

I mean yea

Attacker buff

[rustic bridge]

my first win against enterprise and warspite

[candid sluice]

[flint python]

wait wth you can speak english?

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

pvp leveling guide when

[rustic bridge]

only when I'm not drunk

[crisp tiger]

have fun getting trolled by salty

[untold crater]

Yep

[flint python]

help banned

[tranquil badge]

It's so beautiful

[candid sluice]

yooo nice medal bro

[pseudo copper]

Salty chasing medals?

[candid sluice]

salty brotherhood works together

[pseudo copper]

You don't have a medal there yet

[candid sluice]

dw i dont need it

not hard to get it either way

[rustic bridge]

3 wins 7 lose

[pseudo copper]

Better than 2 wins 8 loses

You are improving

[candid sluice]

preddy good wlr if u ask me

[rustic bridge]

richi and aqualia and jean bart are angry so against this combie never again

[boreal haven]

lowkey hate this kind of fleet

what should I do to counter it?

[cinder wolf]

use the same comp

[candid sluice]

his anchovy isnt even dev30 u should be fine

[flint python]

nothing much you can do but use meta as well

[mellow charm]

If u cant beat em, join em

[untold crater]

Not using percy...

[mellow charm]

Wait, u guys dont use percy?

[untold crater]

Perciless behavior

[candid sluice]

what zero percy does to a guy

[flint python]

oh yeah perse can reveal aquila ez counter

[uncut agate]

[mellow charm]

Dont insult my precious persussy

[forest vapor]

Woops overlapped 5 exercises

Exam season man

[calm mica]

Just have higher fleet power

[untold crater]

Perseus wouldnt have overcapped

[flat veldt]

Well, I guess that's the end of my run this season 125/200 Perseus is just way too broken in PvP

[mellow charm]

You inferior mortals and believers of mafia shall know the havoc percy will wreak upon your fleets

[candid sluice]

damn better luck next season

[mellow charm]

Maybe then your percys will be up to par to compete

[cinder wolf]

man thats rough

if you didn't roll that maxed percy you could have been rank 1

[late heath]

if he didn't roll that maxed percy, he'd have been rank 1 for 10 years at least

[flat veldt]

I pray that unultra doesn't put Perseus in his defense fleet, that would spell the end of Amagi server

[craggy surge]

Hey Guys what's hard counter for Ark Royal + loli setup?

[untold crater]

Is there a ship with a police officer skin?

If not then no counter

[steel coral]

the russians

[craggy surge]

Isn't Northern Parliament hard counter to bikini skins? Also loli vanguard?

[candid sluice]

use cutec in your fleet

[coral wren]

cant win against a shimakaze nj pasta

[untold crater]

use that same fleet

or try weeb fleet

[calm mica]

If it wasn't for pasta+URs you could have been rank 1

[cinder wolf]

agree

[tall nimbus]

guys is seydlitz good in pvp?

[keen silo]

perseus better

[candid sluice]

preload bb good?? kms new meta??

[tall nimbus]

preload bc hiryuu????

welp full kms fleets still gonna be shit anyway

at most she'll replace vv

[cinder wolf]

she only soak for kms

which is non existent in viable pvp unit

actually its only for kms main fleet too
that even worse

[candid sluice]

hey let the kms fans cope cope for a bit

[cinder wolf]

her third skill kinda interesting but the translation is kinda fcked

makes other bb has pseudo preload

[tall nimbus]

only works on other ww1 kms

the only interesting skill is her hiryuu skill

[cinder wolf]

oh so shadow of the pass is the skill series

kk makes sense

[candid sluice]

pretty goofy set of skills lol

[cinder wolf]

then it's shit

[candid sluice]

0 aa as expected of kms

[cinder wolf]

well it's ww1 ships

it's like mikasa event of kms

[keen silo]

only hiryuu skill matters

ig

10 seconds kinda meh evenw ith heal idk

[candid sluice]

i hope i see ppl trying this shit out on ladder

free wins for the rest of us

[keen silo]

i mean

yes

[cinder wolf]

dont see any use since the soak only for kms main

and it's not even hiryuu skill, it's just manjuu

[candid sluice]

got the yugioh card description skills too

[keen silo]

10 seconds < 15 seconds

[candid sluice]

long descs that basically dont do anyhting

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

hamburger fleet new meta???

[keen silo]

3bb

[candid sluice]

well at least the ships are hot

most i can say about them

[coral wren]

Can someone els help me with this fleet? Or is there a problem with it?

[steel coral]

needs more ranger

[coral wren]

Sorry but wat are ranger?

[candid sluice]

do u have the three italian hoes

[pseudo copper]

Problem is Intrepid, Saratoga and An Shan

[coral wren]

Yes i know but i have nothing els

[pseudo copper]

Post your dock

[tall nimbus]

did you pull chise?

[pseudo copper]

That dockspace

Do rake a few more ss, you are likely neglecting ships

[tall nimbus]

why are there two sandys

[pseudo copper]

Both past 100 too

[coral wren]

I kan show all my ss

[coral wren]

Idk why

[tall nimbus]

send screenshot of other ships

[tall nimbus]

replace saratoga and intrepid with warspite and enterprise

replace anshan with helena

[coral wren]

Ok

But what of gear does they need?

[coral wren]

I don't get one of these Italian ship

[tall nimbus]

sea hornet/purple helldiver/wyvern or barracuda for enterprise

aviation gas + homing beacon for enterprise aux

[candid sluice]

yea listen to staagprince

hes the king of enty

[tall nimbus]

enty manjuu saved me on that win tbh

nj targeted enty instead of independence

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

manju ent new meta??

[tall nimbus]

[pseudo copper]

72k HP Enty with Manjuu?

[coral wren]

I don't have helldiver with what kan i switch?

[tall nimbus]

you don't have this?

[candid sluice]

just farm one in 3-4

[tall nimbus]

11-4 the new meta for farming helldiver

[coral wren]

No

[candid sluice]

if bro doesnt have one purple helldiver i doubt he has access to 11-4

[coral wren]

But in grey

[tall nimbus]

he has level 125s tho

[coral wren]

I have access to 13-1 but not complete it

[candid sluice]

thats wack

but yea just farm one fo those purple ones

not too hard

[tall nimbus]

see if you can craft one

[coral wren]

Yes i can craft one

[candid sluice]

there u go

[tall nimbus]

make lots of those

[candid sluice]

tap the max button

[tall nimbus]

that's 3rd best dive bomber

[keen silo]

[coral wren]

i can only craft one

[pseudo copper]

Go farm 11-4

[coral wren]

yes

[pseudo copper]

Also get Dockspace

Base dockspace is not enough

[coral wren]

For warphire is this good or not?

[candid sluice]

do u have a better gun

[coral wren]

I d'ont have ur guns beacus i'am farming these for new jersey

[candid sluice]

do u have the triple406 purple gun

at least

[pseudo copper]

Higher rarity =/= better

[coral wren]

I have this

[candid sluice]

use that prototype ap gun

second row left side

[pseudo copper]

Most of those gold guns are bad

Only middle far left and far right are useful

[coral wren]

Sorry for this

[candid sluice]

its fine dude

keep playing and u will get better equips

[pseudo copper]

No worries, just letting you know so you don't invest in them

[coral wren]

It is al 2year that i'am playing

[pseudo copper]

With gear, a lot of time purple will be better than gold, and some ships rather equip some other gears depending on skills and stats too

[candid sluice]

play at your own pace man

[coral wren]

I 'know but my ship's gear are soo bad

[candid sluice]

youre fine just keep playing they will get better

[coral wren]

Yeah but i dont know witch gear is good or bad for a ship

[candid sluice]

you can always ask

[pseudo copper]

Feel free to ask here

[candid sluice]

im down to help u if needed

tho if u start talking abt pvp here the mods will flip their shit

so just bring to dms if u need

[coral wren]

Ok not a problem

[pseudo copper]

No pvp chat in pvp

[candid sluice]

im sure u can msg anyone else here and theyll help u out too

[keen silo]

[coral wren]

Is this good or not?

[candid sluice]

for pvp not really

610s arent good here

[coral wren]

Why it does good dmg

[candid sluice]

the spread cripples is theoretical damage ceiling

you wont be able to hit most of the torps

unless facehugging which u cant control

[keen silo]

[coral wren]

And whitch one is good then?

[candid sluice]

the 533 quad homings

[coral wren]

Yeah i kan't switch it is server maintenance

[candid sluice]

its fine u can always do it later

[coral wren]

Yeah

But why is an-shan not good she does break the enemy shield en they take 30%more dmg?

[candid sluice]

tbh i dont even know what she does but from what other ppl say she just isnt good enough

[tall nimbus]

gunboats take forever to pump out their damage

[keen silo]

she is too slow for current pvp meta

[coral wren]

Ah soo

But one last think it is about the italian ships where can i get them because it sais that it was only during an event

[keen silo]

u dont “need” them

[candid sluice]

they wont come back for a while

limited event

[keen silo]

but their event rerun should be coming soon? maybe in like 4 months

its recent rerun -> peter stasser -> italian

iirc

[candid sluice]

nano event is way before those goobers

[coral wren]

It is true

[keen silo]

o tru

[sharp snow]

Anshan doesn't have preload.. it takes 25s for her to launch missile. By that time the vg is probably dead

[keen silo]

so does shinano

[sharp snow]

This is for vg*

[keen silo]

that doesnt make shinano bad

[sharp snow]

???

[candid sluice]

no preload therefore bad

[keen silo]

perseus has 2 preload

guess shes the best

[candid sluice]

damn u right

tEX worthy

[pseudo copper]

NJ bad bc no preload

French meta reigns

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

jean fart new meta

[keen silo]

richelieu perseus jb op

[sharp snow]

Might be true if rich had 500 aa

[candid sluice]

aa focused bb new meta??

[keen silo]

[pseudo copper]

NJ good bc AA

[mellow charm]

Nj bad, wtf u guys on

Riche best girl

[keen silo]

true

[neon bronze]

mmm Riche isn't used here since most ppl use ships with heavy armor in pvp?

[keen silo]

richelieu is used to snipe juneau or in 3bb fleets/ppl without mafia

[sharp snow]

Most of the current vg meta are light armor

Just that it's not easy to hit them with bbs

[keen silo]

[tranquil badge]

Aurora tech when

[keen silo]

she died 3 years ago

[candid sluice]

shoulda asked back in 2020

[glacial brook]

[flint python]

hey guys Seydlitz good? alm said she's pvp ship

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

Only if u use her with uvh

[old nimbus]

So basically slap every ship in fleet with preload and make super tank van and call it a day?

[cinder wolf]

maybe she'll rival perse

[mellow charm]

How can IB ever hope to rival percy?

[untold crater]

need triple AS preload to beat percy

[fading wing]

Why the Percy memes all of a sudden

[mellow charm]

She no meme

[worn perch]

Anyone feeling some seydlitz pvp

she got that vibe

[uncut agate]

No

[worn perch]

[candid sluice]

use her so the rest of us can have an easier time on ladder

[cinder wolf]

but

2 preload and uvh

thats alot of salvoes

[candid sluice]

final counter on bb kms good??

[true crane]

alright I havent played this game in forever. Whats the new pvp meta?

rn im using a NJ + Ulrich + Enty backline and it basically wins every time

but im also not high enough up in ranks where I see the super meta fleets yet

[candid sluice]

check out the pins theres a pretty standard meta build there

[untold crater]

Some people were implying that you can't compete if you don't use Mafia or Weeb fleet

[cinder wolf]

as long reset is allowed you can get it done even with waifu fleet

[worldly cape]

I think the only reason why people will run Seydlitz in defense will be to use her with Hiryuu and a Manjuu to screw with you

And mostly because with the current meta Mafia fleet main fleets die before vanguards most of the time

[candid sluice]

if your goal is to stall 30secs of time then it works

[worldly cape]

I guess

Now the challenge is to figure out how to make them last enough time that they don't get obliterated by Shima or NJ in the first 10s

[worn perch]

Anchor does that

But ye Sey is just an annoying stalling option

[candid sluice]

pray that nj barrage doesnt blast your backline

[flint python]

pray that perse double preload don't wipe you out

[cinder wolf]

perse is direct counter to new ships?

[untold crater]

Perseus counters all

[candid sluice]

perseus is counter to backline

if u see perseus just dont bring a backline

[worn perch]

[late heath]

If you see Perseus, bring Kashino

[untold crater]

Kashino buff applies to enemy Perseus :/

[tall nimbus]

damn kms fleets actually giving me trouble with dis noob fleet

not unbeatable but takes like 10+ resets

[true crane]

How much flexibility is there in the meta fleet posted in pins?

Like, is that the best team by far or are there others that are nearly as effective

[candid sluice]

theres a fleet called weeb with shinano nj hiryu

[tall nimbus]

weeb fleet but needs shit ton of good gear

[candid sluice]

if youre interested i can show u

[true crane]

Nah I won't be using that fleet (dont have hiryuu raised), I'm just curious

So is warpsite no longer good in pvp?

[tall nimbus]

usable if you don't have better BBs

[candid sluice]

ye usable at best

[cinder wolf]

if it's like some alternative unit
aquila -> chise
duca -> noshi

vv ->uvh/warkai

[true crane]

What about Anchorage for some other generic tank

Like Agir

[cinder wolf]

nj and ancho pretty much core at this point

[true crane]

I see

[tall nimbus]

i think i finally found the perfect counter to my pleb team

another enty but with nj

[cinder wolf]

whos holding the manju tho

[true crane]

I've been running UvH/NJ/Enterprise with Anchorage/Shima/Yuudachi kai

[tall nimbus]

yeah i surrender to this team

im not watching lucky e vs lucky e for 3 mins

[true crane]

It's beaten everything so far easily but I haven't faced any of the meta fleets you mentioned yet

[cinder wolf]

thats pretty ok fleet

probably can still win against meta with enough reset

[tall nimbus]

[true crane]

I think if Enty gets lucky perhaps

[candid sluice]

as long as u have nj ure doing fine

[tall nimbus]

what if i dont

[candid sluice]

its fine u have staagprince enty

[tall nimbus]

[cinder wolf]

waifu fleet without reset challenge when

[tall nimbus]

i guess this is why plebs dont play pvp

even with best gear i need 69 resets

[worn perch]

Would be a nice 10 matches continuously challenge near eos

When rng peaks

[cinder wolf]

bout to dancing at your wr funeral

[worn perch]

its all about the fun at this point

Sey really give me that amagi vibe, gotta build her fast and see it

[trim kettle]

Seydlitz looks really good for pvp

[candid sluice]

Seydlitz good count: 4

[trim kettle]

Who asked? 0

[candid sluice]

One of these guys

[untold crater]

Sey is German?

[calm mica]

How many people going to think non-pasta non-UR ship is good in pvp. There, I asked

[steel coral]

[light crystal]

[light crystal]

She may be good, would need to test.

Wondering what'd be best tho: Sey/Ulr/FDG, or FDG/NJ/Sey

Maybe Wehraboo team might be good too, or as Weharboo as u can get without sacrificing consistency. So... FDG/SEY/ULR, JNU/EMDEN/ANC?

[worn perch]

i dont have vv to work with so Sey maybe a nice sub into NJ, Aquila, just another variant of nj

[cinder wolf]

nj couldnt leave the comp

[cinder wolf]

probably kms variant is gonna be like this, idk 70% barrage kinda sus

[candid sluice]

triple bb new meta

[worn perch]

Lutzow 10% chance to inflict 3,000 DMG to that enemy

this rng is kinda hot

[cinder wolf]

the barrage seems like can reveal cv, but idk, dont even have the ship yet

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/961498428628664331/969110786976907304/bullet_pattern_skill_15461.gif

[candid sluice]

does it burn

[light crystal]

She can

[light crystal]

Revealing AQL or any other CV doesn't really matter much

[cinder wolf]

no nj like crippling the fleet by default

[light crystal]

No, but if there's good team with excellent synergy o use without NJ, then you'd use it instead

[worn perch]

why would it reveal cv could u explain?

[light crystal]

Alternatively the other way would be trying out FDG/SEY/NJ, but I'd like to see how Ulrich does first

[cinder wolf]

i just sent the barrage gif

[worn perch]

yeah i looked but i dont understand why that could reveal

maybe i missed sth

[cinder wolf]

projectiles

if you have riche you can try it in pvp

[worn perch]

ohh i didnt think projectiles can do it, imma try it out tks

[candid sluice]

burns are what reveal not the proj

[worn perch]

interesting from Rich

but it is not fully revealed no?

[candid sluice]

its slow to reveal

thats why triple bb fleets use fdg and richy

both their barrages burn

[cinder wolf]

yeah which inflicted by the barrage

yeah dunno burn or not yet

[candid sluice]

thats why i asked do it burn or no

[cinder wolf]

datamine?

[candid sluice]

dunno cba to bring that up

[light crystal]

i cba

[light crystal]

imagine cba

NJ for comparison.

[candid sluice]

lol why even compare the two

[light crystal]

lol why not

[candid sluice]

because thats like comparing a handgun to a nuclear bomb

[light crystal]

handgun is better, cuz u can actually use it, unlike a nuclear bomb

[cinder wolf]

it's not like theres anything else that mildly intersting to talk about this new ships

[light crystal]

Skills are good tho

Would have to test how consistent it can get

[keen silo]

apparrently barraged is aimed

[flat veldt]

Just end my suffering already I can't take all these Perseususueusussesus

[untold crater]

persus

[cinder wolf]

damn

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

just be thankful that fleet doesnt have seydlitz too

else all hope is lost

[trail temple]

Triple invul backline gonna be toxic af

[keen silo]

[cinder wolf]

dworry bois, the rumored bismarck retro will shift pvp meta

[light crystal]

true hope lost without the aquilium

[last swan]

So the new 2 BC is meta PvP now?

[untold crater]

pretty much

[worn perch]

time to oath them

[candid sluice]

kms new meta??

[calm mica]

Yep, new meta. NJ getting kicked out of pvp. Can easily recommend to everyone, already got them to 125/200 and 2 BC + Perseus steamrolls mafia

[untold crater]

dont let them know 🤫

[cinder wolf]

[keen silo]

[last swan]

[strange tide]

Holy fuck, I move to close the game at the same second that Anchorage's Manjuu ends and I lose.

She died almost exactly at the same time Abruzzi died.

Should have restarted when Veneto died and the guy's backline was still all alive.

[untold crater]

The only time I lose pvps is when I fall asleep during them

[calm mica]

Gotta be more cautious. Whenever I'm about to lose, I don't only pause, reset. I shut my phone down, then uninstall the game

[untold crater]

I remember doing something similar

Except uninstalling

And it didn't count as a loss

[strange tide]

Yes yes, I get it, you're making fun of me being stupid and not restarting sooner.

[untold crater]

Anchorage manjuu pops and you don't know if you'll win within the next 8 seconds?

Maybe just an experience thing you'll get the hang of eventually

[strange tide]

I didn't see Anchorage's Manjuu popping, only when Abruzzi died did I see her glowing blue and moved to close the game.

[untold crater]

You have to pay attention to ancho

Because she actually has a blue skill

[strange tide]

But as soon as I pressed the Tasks button, I saw not only Anchorage's death animation start, but also the "both players' vanguards died" messaged popped up as it was exiting the game.

[untold crater]

So her glowing blue could be because of she fired her torps

Or it could be due to manjuu

[strange tide]

Yeah well I immediately assumed it was Manjuu, but I was literally less than a second too late in pressing the button.

[untold crater]

Maybe if you had better reaction time

You should practice reaction time for AL

[strange tide]

Oh fuck off.

I'm mainly mad at losing the fight in the first place.

[untold crater]

Yea

Happens

[cinder wolf]

losing to perse everytime its all good

[keen silo]

perseus too good bro each time i see a perseus i overcap

[cinder wolf]

tell me about it

[untold crater]

you guys too?

[calm mica]

I'm not running into a lot of perseus thankfully, but keep running into Kashino instead

[keen silo]

kashino is too strong too

[untold crater]

What about this one guys

Manjuu Vestal, Percy and Akashit

[keen silo]

lvl 65

[untold crater]

I'm getting there

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

I will AoTN there before NJ event runs

For sure

Just need to stop fkn overcapping like I'm Latias

[keen silo]

[worn perch]

lutzow+seydlitz with high performance radar can get their first salvo 95% cdr, so they can shoot before aquila airstrike reaches

Halfway

[worn perch]

but they are just bc, despite some shelling buff from skills, feel like their shell may not hit hard

[keen silo]

lutzow seydlitz good???

[worn perch]

i love their mechanics, but prolly not, just cope wont expect much

[river marsh]

lutzow in pvp good?

[untold crater]

yep meta

[worn perch]

wish i had shima cope with weebs now cope with old vampires

[keen silo]

shima not important just use tank

[worn perch]

yeah but in this case if I want to cope with these BCs, Shima dps would help the case more

not saying shima wouldnt be any less in others

[cinder wolf]

making them preload so ancho can dodge the salvoes

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

Bbbbut preload good

[keen silo]

thats why perseus is the best

[untold crater]

perseUSA

[strange tide]

Well I just forgot about PvP and overcapped again.

[uncut agate]

[strange tide]

Oof, finished the fight right on reset and it consumed the ticket.

[keen silo]

;pace 9 1087

sheesh

latias 2531 pace

[strange tide]

I had already overcapped earlier in the week.

[uncut agate]

easy AotN

[strange tide]

I literally don't care about PvP as much anymore since I already got AotN.

[keen silo]

true

[untold crater]

That's the spirit

[old portal]

Is Douglas SBD Dauntless (McClusky) or Firefly from core shop a better dive bomber?

[keen silo]

helldiver

[untold crater]

Tenrai

[keen silo]

ok buddy

[untold crater]

AL game

[keen silo]

making me feel poor

where my 2nd tenrai

[untold crater]

Oh I thought you had at least 2...

[keen silo]

10 more prints to 2rai

[untold crater]

That's like the bare minimy

Need 2 tenrai

[keen silo]

soon

[untold crater]

And equip none of them on percy

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

[flint python]

dw perse retro can equip 10rai

[steel coral]

in all 5 slots

[untold crater]

That's just 5rai

You also need to equip on skin slots for true 10rai

[uncut agate]

[keen silo]

<@&460646206851252224>

[candid sluice]

[jolly lichen]

[scenic oxide]

is there a way to turn off TB so she doesn't interrupt by talking every fucking time you use a mechanism

[meager fractal]

There’s no tb in pvp your game is glitched bro

[jolly lichen]

[untold crater]

You can reduce her, also wrong channel

[scenic oxide]

oh, thought i was in gameplay, mb bro

[untold crater]

[lusty venture]

you can do that?!

[untold crater]

Many things you can do

[true swan]

ngl i scrolled to see the chat above

and this mad funny

[untold crater]

and true

[candid sluice]

[obsidian kite]

New ships pvp? Or nah

[untold crater]

ofc

[last swan]

[calm mica]

[untold crater]

[late heath]

take Kashino instead

[calm mica]

Overcapped from Perseus again. Why are we here, just to suffer

[untold crater]

fr?

[calm mica]

furo?

[frank pebble]

mainz or helena for middle spot?

[calm mica]

yes

[old portal]

Best fighter of the two?

[pseudo copper]

Sea Hornet

Both in pve and pvp

[untold crater]

Helena

[late laurel]

Sea horny

[late heath]

[old portal]

[untold crater]

[naive sleet]

Is emden good for pvp?

[untold crater]

she is meta

[naive sleet]

I assume that means yes 😆

[candid sluice]

[trail temple]

Good? Probably not, viable? Maybe, will need to look at her in more detail and actually play around with her

[arctic sluice]

kinda wished you werent forced to use the same fleet or you will literally die

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

?

sounds to me you have bad gear !

[pseudo copper]

And lack of Kashino

And RNGer too ig

[trail temple]

A lot of people with sub-optimal ships also haven't gotten to the point where their gear is good too

[candid sluice]

Gear issue

[light crystal]

Aquilium issue

[untold crater]

plays on amagi, gear standard is lowest there

[last swan]

Time to show your line up

[pseudo copper]

What's gear?

[untold crater]

yes

[keen silo]

deez nutz

[candid sluice]

Pins

[untold crater]

you dont have aquila

[arctic sluice]

the only troll ship I have is anchor

[candid sluice]

Not on amage

[hazy quiver]

Who’s better for Exercises, Ulrich or NJ

[uncut agate]

NJ

she's a staple of every meta defining PvP team rn

[candid sluice]

New jerjey

[royal beacon]

Submarine pvp when

[light crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-bob-sponge-forever-tired-gif-7583491

[candid sluice]

cats in pvp when

[late heath]

TB in PvP when

[keen silo]

[sudden talon]

NJ still meta for pvp?

[buoyant parrot]

who uses this gun? or is this even usable?

[pseudo copper]

Gunboats aren't too useful in pvp, so can work as BB secondary maybe, but p sure better options exist, might be wrong

[keen silo]

Tashgun

[north sentinel]

fleet tech applied when

[dapper stone]

gear correct?

[candid sluice]

im assuming u dont have 10rai rainbow mags and mk7

[keen silo]

Swap torp on a cho

[dapper stone]

no tenrai

what is rainbow mag and mk7?

[keen silo]

Juneau gun is wrong

[dapper stone]

ah rainbow magnetic torps u mean

[keen silo]

yes

he means that

[dapper stone]

this for juneau?

or this

[keen silo]

i like this cuz aa stat

[dapper stone]

I can craft a rainbow mag torp, does it go on shima?

[candid sluice]

its not a must tbh

do u have blacktorp

[dapper stone]

yeah